HEATING SYSTEM CLEANER.. Which was BEST? PART 2 | Mains Water Flush
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- Heating system sludge removal is key to getting a central heating system working better and more efficient.
Power flushes or system flushes like what I’m doing in the video removes the sludge, magnitite and debris from your heating system and allows it to work better and heat your house a lot better.
We put the Adey MagnaCleanse and the Thorough Flush units to the test back to back in the real world…. With great results.
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Part 2…… let’s see what the Thorough Flush unit gets out the system
Man it’s so hard to find good plumbers and heating engineers. They are literally one in a million.
Even when they say they’re experienced they do things wrong.
You’re doing a good job mate.
Thanks mate…. Kind words👍🏼👍🏼
The customer will definitely feel the difference, that system will work like the first day it was installed. That Thoroughflush is the DB. I should invest in a set up like yours for sure.
I don't mind an extra long vlog, personally.
Thanks mate…. Yer it’s certainly running alot better now it’s not like treacle
A double dose of Tiff my life is complete!! You started the video talking about sinks when I thought it was about central heating but it was a different type of sync 🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣……. Keeping you on your toes😉
Two videos or one. Doesn't matter to me. Just binge watched them both 😂😂. Love the thorough flush. It's on my wish list 👍👍
Cheers Gary…..👍🏼👍🏼….
Yer it’s a great bit of kit to have in the arsenal😉
I’ve learnt a lot from you mark, top work! I also have a Thoroughflush. I wouldn’t even waste a day on the magnaclean, treat a week before with f8 then spend the day with the Thoroughflush 👌🏻👌🏻
Thoroughflush is a great unit👌🏼👌🏼
Having two parts breaks it up so more enjoyable and not to long, great job, nice to see the outcome.
Thanks mate…… seemed to work for this one…. Maybe more to come😉😉
Hi Mark made my own water mains flush with copper pipe and lever valves with reverse flow and reverse dump valves pressure reducer, and none return valve using my kamco hoses and magnets works a treat cost £70 materials and a bit of my time, works a treat, keep up the good work mate.
Thanks mate…. Glad you enjoyed the video👍🏼👍🏼
Yep there is ways to make them, I find the size of the Thoroughflush is perfect along with the hoses etc etc that comes with it…. 👍🏼
Big Difference with the mains flush, That’s a must,
2 videos is easy to watch, hard to sit and keep watching after 30 minutes,
Good video Mate, great to see a system flush done right and not rushed
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Thanks buddy….. appreciate the feedback. 👍🏼
Yer I really enjoy doing a good system flush, so satisfying
I started with a magnacleanse and wasn't happy with the results. I purchased the Thoroughflush to combine as you have here. Its bang on! Cheaper then a flush machine and a whole lot easier to transport aswell!
Great combo to flush systems isn’t it
Yours is the first video I've found, that actually A. Explains how to set it up for an open vent B. Showing how it works clearly. Brilliant Brilliant 2 part to watch and a great endorsement for Thoroughflush.
Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼
I don't mind a long video for watching you tube in bed on a Sunday night pretending Monday ain't coming. 😂
That thorough flush lives up to its name great piece of kit.
Oh an I hope the customer gave you a beer from that stash by the sink👀 for doing a cracking job😂
Hahaha… Monday always comes round to quick🤣🤣
Great second vid fella .
What would be a great addition is to show the subscribers the airing cupboard & pipework configuration especially on an open vented system as most people know what the combi set out is like. Its harder to flush I found especially with a 3 port as they can be very restrictive when it's set to manually open. Something I also did was to cut in a gate valve on the cylinder return if possible if not on the flow so you can isolate the cylinder , that way you can flush that circuit a bit like a rad!! If that all makes sense . I used to find the open vent & cold feed connections by the pump were always problematic & most often partially blocked causing pumping over, resulting on boiler cycling pump failure etc.
I appreciate the younger lads want to make everything a sealed system now & it is the way to go & easier. However as you know there's still shed loads of open vent systems out there.
What you've done for that customer will bring her bills down & improve the efficiency no end.
I am super Impressed with the thorough flush unit & a great benefit to have, i was shocked how much sludge it moved compared to the magna cleanse &, love the way you've lower the mains pressure, as open vent systems can with pipes emb3dded in solid floors can be exposed with too much pressure going through them. Something the young guys seem to forget until its too late!!!!
I do like the 2 parter vids as it keeps you guessing what the outcome will be.
Look forward to the next one up 👍
Thanks mate, great comment 👍🏼👍🏼
Yer I was properly impressed with just how much the Thoroughflush unit managed ti get out after the Magnacleanse flush.
Hi Mark,
A brilliant flush and clean for that customers system. I have always been a fan of the Adey products coupled with the thoroughflush it’s a force to be reckoned with. The evidence was on the magnets and in the dipstick test. It settled my ocd a treat, I enjoyed the two part film but for me whatever suits you the best is fine. Have a great week and as always take care, regards, Chris. 👍👍👍
Thanks Chris…. Yep I can’t fault this combo, both great units👌🏼👌🏼
I like the fact you show such a wide range of different plumbing scenarios. I’ve thought about investing in a power flush machine in the past but didn’t for the very reasons you mentioned about blowing off fittings with pressure too high etc and Murphy law would suggest it would be under a tiled floor or something. Great video thanks Mark. Very informative stuff.
Yep that’s my big concern with them… this set up is perfect👌🏼
Hi Mark. Watch both videos. It’s a lot of work but the results are definitely worth it. I am not plumber but all that muck in the system can’t help the boiler worth probably. Good job Mark as always. I like the two videos mate but you do what works for you. I appreciate what ever you put mate. 👍
Thanks mate, yep all that sludge in the system is making the pump run harder, clogs up valves etc and stops heat being generated…. A very good thing to have done
Thanks Mark. Will definitely get it done thank you. 👍
Great video and showing us the difference between the two cleaning systems. Very well done. Thanks as always.
Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼
What a cracking piece of kit , defo going on the Xmas list, I think personally i would invest in the through flush first only because most houses have mag filters now, essentially you could of just dosed the chemical in the existing mag pot and left over night knowing u was coming the next day to through flush,would of saved some time, but a superb clean u done there to say the least , pukka work as usual mate , very impressive 👍
Thanks mate…. They are great bits of kit
Really enjoyed the two videos mate.
I prefer the two videos instead of one long one mate👍
Also impressed with the kit.
Well worth the money mate.
Just another string yo your bow
I like your work ethics mate pity you are not in Essex. 👍👍
Thanks buddy…. Appreciate the comment 👍🏼👍🏼
Great result with the Thoroughflush Mark. I actually prefer the video in 2 halves, was something to look forward to on a Monday 😊
Thanks mate….. just something a bit different, will see how it goes down.
Yer great result with the ThoroughFlush unit…. I was surprised how much more it got out the system
Mark i Like that thorough flush kit Amazon as usual 😂 better than carrying them power flush machines cheers mate.
The ThoroughFlush unit is a brilliant system 👌🏼
The powerflush was certainly worth the time and effort on this job
100% mate…. And they are so satisfying aswell
Evening Mark. Interesting results with the thorough flush! I think the setup you've got with the 2 flushing units coupled together is probs the way to go for best result. As for the video in 2 parts, it's a nice change to have something to watch on a Monday, but whatever works best for you mate it's your channel 👍
Thanks mate, yep these 2 units imho are the perfect combo for flushing, each to there own but this is a proven setup👌🏼
Thanks for the feedback on the videos, it was more that it would of been a 50min video for a Sunday…. Over 2 days was a test to see if it’s worth doing it in future if I need to…👍🏼👍🏼
Great video Mark really interesting. Two videos do work there is so much involved doing what you’ve done. I’m considering having that done but concerned to find a good plumber like you are most plumbers registered to do this job or what shall I look out for? Thanks again.
Just make sure they are genuine tradesman that are known and know what they are doing
Great video as always. As for being 2 parts I’m not sure cause I’m always looking forward to outcome. But saying that I enjoy them I would watch second part. I’m one of these people can’t watch series week after week I wait till finished series then watch all at once. But always learning so keep the good work coming 👍👍
Glad you liked it mate 👍🏼👍🏼
Cracking result and a thorough job. That system will be so much more efficient now 👍
Yep it’s a lot more efficient now
Super clean system now 👍
Indeed it is mate👌🏼👌🏼
The 2 part video made a boring Monday evening so much better
Glad you enjoyed it mate 👍🏼👍🏼
I like 2 part videos, I know it makes no difference but feels like I’m getting extra 😂
Also, I’m amazed how much magnetite came out with the mains flush even after having the magna cleanse on it for hours the day before!
Yep I was very surprised aswell, great result in the end
Surprising "amount of sludge with mains flush" But if you power flush ?
Completed in a day: removes kore sludge quicker: never had a blown fitting: corroded fitting with a nail smashed over a copper pipe,YES!
I'm a power flush geek, still put magnets on after first flush and chemical circ.
So satisfying!
Isn’t it just 👍🏼👍🏼
Brilliant 2 videos Mark, wished you were local to me. Dennis from Barnsley.
Thanks Dennis…. Glad you enjoyed them mate👍🏼👍🏼
I do fair bit of powerflushing with kamco cf 90 and kamco magnets. If I had to change it would probably be the throughflush
👍🏼👍🏼 yep they are great bits of kit buddy
Great job Mark I might invest in one of those 👍
Thanks buddy….. great bits of kit
Interesting mucky system another job well done i did enjoy this video in 2 parts and a change for a monday evening
Thanks mate…… 👍🏼👍🏼
that Thorough Flush is mad even after two cleaners used , like the part 1 and 2 idea also, would be good too see a vid on best inhibitors and cleaner too use also
Yep I was very surprised after seeing the result
Good job.
I hope there are some customer willing to pay me decent price to do such decent job.
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Nice work fella......I also found the DHC 😂.....have a good week👍
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Great video 👍 good to see both done on the same system. Not something you usually see. Begs the question is mains pressure better than any cleaning products?
Thanks mate..👍🏼
It wasn’t the most scientific of tests but showed just what else can be taken out with a proper mains flush, I think the ability to switch direction with the Thorough flush helped massively as it causes a shunting motion I guess
Enjoyed the video. Thanks 😁
Glad you enjoyed it
Very interesting video! Iv got a question though, if you’ve got say 1 bar going in, and its got to climb upstairs and to the last rad, would it be fair to say that by the time it gets there you’ve probably only got half a bar of pressure to push any sludge? I can’t help thinking a power flush is a better machine?
Never had an issue with this set up…. Even on very big jobs
Thanks, I enjoyed both videos. From the customer point of view your work and time spent is superb but what would a job like this cost?
Are quotes for a power flush only with a magnaclean at nearly £400 for 3.5 hrs just a waste of money? This wouldn’t have included working each radiator either.
You need to work each radiator on a Magnacleanse flush or any flush…..
You need to be making sure every rad has been flushed and is clean, this is where thermal imaging is great as you can see any cold spots etc
Either or, I’ll watch regardless mark 👍
Thanks mate….. appreciate that buddy👍🏼👍🏼
Is that the house that had the fire a few years back? The room looks very similar to the one you worked on. I personally prefer the long videos on a Sunday 👍🏻 thanks again for the video mark 👌😊
No mate…. Don’t think I’ve worked on a house with a fire, got me thinking now🤔🤔
Are you sure? I thought you did 😂 I thought the top floor caught fire and you replaced a rad? Maybe I’m losing it 😂
Oohhhhh yes, I remember…. Bloody hell that was a while ago!!
However no….. it wasn’t the same house 🤣👍🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbing I knew I wasn’t going mad 😂😂
Hahahaa…. I was for a minute🤣
Hi Mark amazing how much more you get out with the second flush can I ask what you charge cheers
Yep I was genuinely surprised
Hi Mark good video, I think the vibrating of the rads makes the biggest difference! where do you get you replacement test strips for the ProCheck they seem very expensive when I have looked for them.
Yep they are not cheap to be honest… just factor them into the jobs buddy
Hi Mark! Very good and useful video. Just wanted to know when you connect your thoroughflush do you connect it do the Magna clean points and isolate the boiler from flow and return? Thank you!
Thanks mate, nope it’s flushing through the boiler aswell👍🏼👍🏼
Hi Mark, great videos as always. I have just a couple of questions as I have both a Thoroughflush and a Magnacleanse like yourself. 1, In your honest opinion, do you think that if you'd have just introduced the cleaning chemicals a week before and then gone straight to the Thoroughflush on day one, that the result would have been any different ? It wasn't clear if you agitated the radiators on the Magnacleanse phase, did you? Cheers
As said in part 1 on Sunday I agitated the rads on the Magnacleanse flush but didn’t show it as didn’t want to repeat myself when I did the Thoroughflush.
I personally don’t like leaving systems that long with cleaner in them incase there is an issue
Looking at the results you got I would now reverse the process, 1st use the thoroughflush then 2nd stage use the MagnaFlush?
Yep that’s an option👍🏼
Thought your not aloud to have a valve on the cold feed or vent pipe
Lever is removed when I’ve finished doing what I need so it would be turned off accidentally
What thermal imaging camera do you use??
HikMicro Pocket 2👍🏼👌🏼
Hi Mark,
Great video can I ask which thermal imaging camera do u use please.
Thank you.
It’s from “HikMicro” 👍🏼👍🏼
Great videos, just ordered one of these. Quick question is that a thermal imaging camera you use or app on a phone? Thanks
Yer it’s a great unit mate…. Can’t fault it.
The camera is a stand alone unit, HikMicro Pocket 2👍🏼👍🏼
This better than power flush unit?
Horses for courses to be honest mate…. This works very very well
You forgot to mention that with the Thoroughflush, you also banged the rads. Wonder how much extra crud would have come out if you banged the rads on MagnaCleanse cycle on day 1?.
If you had listened in part 1 I said I was doing that with the Magnacleanse setup on day 1 but I said I will show you when I do it with the Thoroughflush as you won’t want to see it twice😉😉
So no, I didn’t forget to mention….. you forgot to listen 😉👍🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbing Apologies. So yes, the Thoroughflush is bloody good as it removed more than the Magnacleanse after the Magnacleanse had already removed quite a bit of crud.
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Yep, I was genuinely shocked at just how much more was removed with the ThoroughFlush unit… my thinking is that as you can switch direction instantly with the TF unit, it causes a shunting effect and moves a lot more debris around….
Hi mark where did you get the fitting to go onto the camlock ?
You can get it all from the Thoroughflush website in the description
@@MJTiffPlumbing many thanks mark. Love the videos ,👍
You should really drain radiators so there is only water in the bottom otherwise water just travels over the top and you will see a big difference in what comes out , sludge is heavier than water
See the thermal imaging buddy, you can see where the cold water is😉👍🏼👍🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbing you’ll find out when you go on the Magna clean course 👍🏼
Thanks for your insight into the Magna Clean course…👍🏼…. I will indeed see, that’s the whole point of a course buddy… to gain more knowledge.
I can also see with, as said and shown, the Thermal Imaging camera. 👍🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbing only recommendation, I have all the gear 👍🏼
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Do you buy any particular lever valve brand?
Just one from Plumbase buddy, as long as it’s WRAS approved 👌🏼
What infrared camera you using pal?
HikMicro Pocket 2 👍🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbing that could be your next review! Looks good kit- impressed with thorough flush but infared a minefield
It’s a cracking unit mate…. And Bluetooth all the videos and info straight to your phone
Amazing
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Mark, would you always use both systems now or just do a flush ?, great results = happy Custer 👍
I personally like to do the 2….. but prior to having the Thoroughflush just the one was used and had good results…. But now the both of them is just amazing for doing this imho
@@MJTiffPlumbing cheers Mark
Just forward to 19.10
Or don’t be a bellend and watch something a little interesting…… depends what sort of a guy you are. And you’ve answered that😉
Is it cost effective flushing? Depending on the age of the rads I suggest it's cheaper to replace rads and empty the whole system to get rid of crud. Spent £850 on total rad replacement which stopped the 3 port valve clogging up every 6 months. Better energy efficiency too with new rads. How much is a system flush like that?
Personally I would say a proper system flush is very good money spent….
@M J Tiff Plumbing as a landlord who has paid for a flush several times and 6 months later the same corroding rads caused the same issue. I'm not saying its wrong but on older systems it's better to get rid of old rusty rads with new. New rads also work more efficiently so the saving is way better than a flush. I expect you tell your customers that as you're a plumbing legend 🙂
But if your filling new rads with nasty corroded sludged up water it’s going to cause the same issues, also that water and corrosion is going through the boiler/pump and valves….. its the age old thing of how far do you go.
Think of it like this…. Changing your oil filter in your car and leaving old oil still in isn’t the best thing to do….🫣
@M J Tiff Plumbing isn't sludge mostly in the rads at the bottom? Normally when taking off all the rads removes 90% of the water from the system so hopefully the inhibitor and filter will sort out the other 10% a flush is perfect for systems where they've been in place for approx 5yrs but those rads that are showing rust on the outside it's a waste of money imo. People will always go for the cheaper option then moan later it didn't work.
Sludge is in the rads, and the pipe work, and the valves, and the pump, and the heat exchanger etc etc….👍🏼
What's a typical cost for this? Guessing it's different depending where you are in the country?
Yer it’s very much area dependant…
As a guide I charge £400 for a system flush up to 8 rads…. Then £50 per rad extra.
That’s for a combi system, it’s a little more if it’s open vented.
Also extra if it needs a filter fitting etc etc
@@MJTiffPlumbing cheers great vids this week
Thanks buddy
Thourough flush is a nice idea but for me 10L/min of mains water is never going to match 150L/min from a power flush machine which you can also use chemicals and heat with.
Yep people prefer different systems and do what they are happy with…👍🏼👌🏼
personally I don’t like the power flush systems as there is a lot more chance of blowing a fitting and flooding a house running that sort of L/Min and pressures……. Also they are huge units
Chemicals and heat with the Magnacleanse then cold water flush with the ThoroughFlush👍🏼
Great video as usual. Why are your hands not covered in black crap. Whenever I do this I always end up with black stains on my hands even when using gloves.
Bigwipes mate 🤣😉😉😉
When is trade legends restarting
Tonight buddy😉
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Evening mate….. cheeky video on a monday
@@MJTiffPlumbing your spoiling us lol 😂 🤘😎🤘😂😂😂😂👍👍
A long video 7 days a week please
Hahaha….. 🤣👍🏼👍🏼