This Kingdom Hearts Mystery changes A LOT..

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  • @noravanguard
    @noravanguard 24 дні тому +81

    feel like one reason why we haven't gotten any KH news lately is the Nomura and the team are working through the story threads that are left over and are trying find the best way to show then either be in KH or or a game after it

    • @ash9870
      @ash9870 24 дні тому +9

      I can imagine that they want the game to be at a certain point in development before they speak about KH4. It seems logical that they are waiting until they have a release window for the game set in stone

    • @truthspreader1996
      @truthspreader1996 24 дні тому +5

      I hope so because Kingdom Hearts is a mess!

    • @ZeranZeran
      @ZeranZeran 24 дні тому +5

      Lets be real Nomura probably just drops a journal of insanity on some poor employees desk and says "No, do it again" until it's right for him lmao

    • @yorshka6955
      @yorshka6955 23 дні тому +1

      trust me, but i am pretty sure that they don't care about the story anymore, just how they can mill this already dead franchise dry by releasing mobile spin offs and basically doing the opposite of what the real fans want

    • @ElickFlash
      @ElickFlash 23 дні тому +3

      I believe that the Tokyo team is on it as well. Which is neck deep in the ff7 part 3 as well, so we might be a bit. Granted 4 started development around the time the where wrapping on remind.

  • @reynXIII
    @reynXIII 24 дні тому +40

    Actually thinking about it, that scene in kh2fm, Xigbar talks to Zexion about recruiting Marluxia, and Zexion is an adult already, which means Marluxia (and subsequently Larxene) spent multiple years before joining the Organization wandering around, probably until a year or even two before kh1, but that's still a really long time for them to do, anything really

    • @sato-lr2ln
      @sato-lr2ln 23 дні тому +1

      Could be a situation where they didnt wanna make a new model (or didnt have the story planned out yet). Happened with young xehanort in bbs

  • @jakeriese4862
    @jakeriese4862 22 дні тому +13

    I always think its cause Lauriem falls into flowers, and then being able to use petals as Marluxa. For Elerna, its the lightning of Enchanted Dominoan, and then being able to use electricity as Larxene

  • @Pryexel
    @Pryexel 24 дні тому +24

    While we're on this topic, I've always had a theory that Maleficent was involved in turning Elrena into Larxene. If Elrena did show up in Enchanted Dominion just the before Birth by Sleep's main story, this would have be the time Maleficent would grown curious about Keyblades, hearts, and worlds beyond her own. So what's stopping her from performing some experiments on a random stranger who appeared on her doorstep?

    • @DyxoXinoro
      @DyxoXinoro 16 днів тому

      This feels in character. I can see Elrana walking around a bit and getting whammied out of nowhere just because she pulled a keyblade and Maleficent wanted to do a funny.

  • @Xanqiev
    @Xanqiev 24 дні тому +21

    About the memories, for one to retain their memories traveling through time in a lifeboat, they need both a medium and someone with memories of them in the target time they're going for. If you don't have one of those, you lose all of your memories from your original time. Lauriam and Elrena have lost their memories because they lack one of those.
    And about Dwarf Woodlands and Enchanted Dominion, those worlds only fall to darkness when the Heartless go hazard in the Realm of Light due to Terra-Xehanort's research. Since the time in the Realm of Darkness passes differently from the Realm of Light and Realm Between, when Aqua finds those Birth By Sleep's worlds in the Realm of Darkness during 0.2, a lot of time have already passed since the original BBS.

    • @pikadragon6826
      @pikadragon6826 19 днів тому

      It’s actually never stated what would happen if there is no one with memories in the future when using the machine. It could be that they lose their memories, like you said, or memories could be an anchor point that directs a heart to a time period and allows it to make use of a medium in the first place. As for why Ven, Lauriam, and Elrena may have lost their memories, I believe it was either stated or heavily implied that Ventus lost his memories after Vanitus was removed from his heart, Marluxia’s character file in KH Character Files heavily implies that the memory loss was because of becoming a Nobody ( quote “I understood that when a person loses their body and becomes a Nobody, they might also lose their memories”), and as for Elrena, it’s never stated that she has memory loss as far as I can find and based on her words in the KH3 defeat scene and her character file I think it’s more likely she was just following Marluxia around and didn’t say anything incase she got hurt again (quote “It’s painful to really like something” and “Ughhh, I hate that I’m not human again. If I’d known this would happen, I wouldn’t have followed that guy. Because now I don’t have the excuse that I have no heart.”). As for why Larxene would act so differently from Elrena, we don’t know how long it had been between her entering the lifeboat and meeting Laurium again so it’s entirely possible that her experiences made her extremely jaded (after all, she appeared alone in an unfamiliar world that was being terrorized by maleficient. I wouldn’t be surprised if her “Isn’t it better not to like it” mindset was a direct result of this situation).
      Overall, we have too little information about what happened between Laurium and Elrena reappearing and their first appearances as Marluxia and Larxene to know for sure how the machine affected them.

  • @kingleonidas2182
    @kingleonidas2182 22 дні тому +3

    I’m glad you mentioned the desire for a BBS sequel because I genuinely didn’t want to see KH4 until they got to explore those characters specifically.

  • @mobgabriel1767
    @mobgabriel1767 24 дні тому +16

    lauriam and elrena are part of the same time travel batch as ventus, they don't retain their memories because the way they time traveled lack preparations, supposedly they lacked either someone with memories of them and something to either allow their hearts to grow new bodies or to serve as a compass for the time travel, brain maleficent and the MoM keep their memories because they actually prepared for their own time travels, maleficent using the fairies and her cape, brain using sigurd and his hat and the MoM with the book of prophecies and No Name, it is valid to note tho that between KH3 and end of remind and beggining of KH4 there is a 1 year gap wich we don't know what lauriam and elrena were doing during this time

    • @Saliha189
      @Saliha189 23 дні тому +2

      Tbh wouldn't Luxu serve as the person with memories for all of them? Maybe it's a medium they lacked. Brain managed to have his hat which is probably what served as his medium, and id imagine Luxu would serve as the memories. But for larxene, Marluxua and Ventus, idk if there is a medium

    • @quietguyjosh4643
      @quietguyjosh4643 22 дні тому

      ​@Saliha189
      It's probably why they appeared where they did
      Marluxia in a field of flowers in place of a medium
      And she appears where there is alot of lightning present
      They had to use environmental aspects as mediums

  • @mobgabriel1767
    @mobgabriel1767 24 дні тому +6

    6:00 no? i mean KH1 literally starts with destiny islands falling to the darkness with sora kairi and riku still in it and pretty much all of them manage to escape, it isn't that unbelievable that lauriam and elrena would escape too if they werent recruited by xigbar at that point

    • @jinx526
      @jinx526 23 дні тому +3

      Right and Traverse town exists for people who's world fell to darkness. They would have ended up there like a bunch of other characters and random npcs did

  • @Isiel42
    @Isiel42 24 дні тому +16

    I wonder if KH4 will address the heavy implication that Union X put forth that Strelizia's nobody was the one Marluxia rode on top in his final boss form? Perhaps she wound up in Quadratum when she was recompleted?

    • @DyxoXinoro
      @DyxoXinoro 16 днів тому

      Given Sora ended up in Quadratum because he just decided the rules shouldn't apply to his friends, I'm curious if something similar happened to Strelizia mtself. Cause its clear to me in death her will manifested itself by Marluxia's side given the Spectre looks exactly like a Strelizia flower (at least on the GBA). So maybe she also found some power of love style loop hole to the rules and got put in the penalty box for violating the rules as well.

  • @LexioLTG
    @LexioLTG 20 днів тому +1

    What if Lauriam and Erlena became heartless *because* those worlds fell into darkness? Their nobodies would've been born almost at the start of KH1, which would make sense, being recruited the last before the events of Chain of Memories.
    Maybe they woke up right after the events of BBS and spent some years in these disney worlds, almost like secondary characters of their stories. I'd love to see Marluxia being a gardener for Snow white and Larxene blasting off Maleficent's minions with lightning.

  • @EmaAka5
    @EmaAka5 23 дні тому +2

    Lauriam/Marluxia has become one of my favourite characters in the franchise!

  • @BrennySpain
    @BrennySpain 18 днів тому +1

    I know I’m a couple of days late to this comment but I’ve been doing a lot of thinking lately. What if Marluxia and Larxene as their somebodies, Lauriam and Elrena eventually decide to team up with the good guys to help find Strelitza. Lauriam at least would have a good reason doing so. Eventually trying to get to Quadratium We all know what Larxene is like but she’ll probably just tag along anyway. I mean it would make a lot of sense since they have a much bigger storyline planned too. Those two always seem to be paired together and their interactions with Ventus would give very interesting as well.

    • @DyxoXinoro
      @DyxoXinoro 16 днів тому

      Honestly I'd love a game thats just those two bumbling about in the worlds, trying to bust though the dimensional barrier, while nobody is willing to trust them for anything.

  • @magicvalgirl
    @magicvalgirl 24 дні тому +9

    I want my man to see his sister SO BAD!!! PLEASE NOMURA!!!

    • @fantasyjay09
      @fantasyjay09 24 дні тому +1

      Your man?!

    • @magicvalgirl
      @magicvalgirl 24 дні тому

      @fantasygirlover5209 Don't people say that when talking about their favorite characters?

    • @fantasyjay09
      @fantasyjay09 24 дні тому

      @@magicvalgirl No? I mean, I guess so? But if that’s what you say about all your favorite characters, I won’t judge!

    • @magicvalgirl
      @magicvalgirl 24 дні тому

      @fantasygirlover5209 I do apologize for the confusion and going a bit overboard. I'm always hyped for KH theory videos. The lack of news just makes me appreciate fans sharing their thoughts more!
      (Note: I've seen a lot of movies and shows recently where a character loses their sister and immediately my mind goes to this. It's suffering. 🙃)

    • @fantasyjay09
      @fantasyjay09 24 дні тому

      @@magicvalgirl Ahaha… Yeah, I know. I totally get it! I’m sorta the same way too. Just coping and suffering with the lack of KH news… is starting to make me go a little insane haha. But I’ll be fine though! I have a tad bit of hope left in me still…

  • @noahr607
    @noahr607 16 днів тому

    I’m pretty confident that Marluxia and Larxene don’t have their memories as nobodies because Xehanort/Ansem/Xemnas placed them into those other memory pods like the one Sora and the gang were placed into. Ultimania even mentions that those pods were created by the organization to experiment with memories and KH2 says that 2 of the empty pods “have been used before” if you inspect them

  • @loveme_or_not5295
    @loveme_or_not5295 16 днів тому

    One thing that has always been a bit of a plot hole is that Lea and Isa seem to have their memories of before they were turned into nobodies. In kh3 theres a convo between them talking about how they joined to look for "her" (subject X probably). And this was when Isa was Saix.

  • @empressofcreativity
    @empressofcreativity 24 дні тому +2

    I’m still wondering if they’ll ever show Ventus’ time as Xehanort’s apprentice (including their first interaction)

  • @nickynegron3515
    @nickynegron3515 21 день тому +1

    What do you mean theorized to be Subject X? Skuld is all but confirmed through the Ansem/Xehanort Reports and lore since to be Subject X with the usual case of amnesia that follows those who went through the Life Boats (or as it seems with some of them)

    • @ProdigyxCD
      @ProdigyxCD  20 днів тому +1

      I only say that because it isn't "Confirmed" even if all evidence points towards that answer.

  • @DyxoXinoro
    @DyxoXinoro 16 днів тому

    I think its worth noting that while I agree with the rest of the comments that Lauriam almost certainly doesn't _actively_ remember anything from UX during the events of the series, he does seem to _passively_ remember things. His desire for and innate understanding of the keyblade, for instance, isn't shared at all with Demyx or Larxene, despite those two also having a "keyblade legacy" (jury's out on Luxord).
    But, more importantly, I want everyone reading this to go look up what a Striletzia flower actually looks like, and then look at the Spectre Nobody's sprite from GBA Chain of Memories. Assuming the 3D model from Re:CoM doesn't have any drastic changes in design, then something hinky is definitely going on here. Doubly so if you compare Striletzia's "I want to protect you" speech with Marluxia's third phase in Re:CoM.
    Kinda makes me wonder about that whole "memories of the heart" thing that CoM kept banging on about. Cause while the delivery of that plot point was definitely just part of Sora being gaslit... I dunno. Marluxia isn't supposed to have any memories until his defeat in 3, but the math ain't mathing. There's some hijinx -- possibly shenanigans -- afoot going on here.

  • @EmeraldBlade98
    @EmeraldBlade98 19 днів тому

    I genuinely think nomura forgot so much of his story that’s why he wants to “reset” it

  • @ethanleach1252
    @ethanleach1252 24 дні тому +6

    How cool would a game where we play as Lauriam with his Divine Rose Keyblade after he wakes up be 😊

  • @Jinsei24
    @Jinsei24 11 днів тому

    The life boat isn't for the Heart AND Body to travel through time safely. It is only for the heart and the body is gone. Only if there is a medium in the future and someone that can remember you the person can fully return with the body.

  • @enriquemiranda7876
    @enriquemiranda7876 24 дні тому +1

    Would suck if they arrived just right before those world fell to darkness and they got turned into a heartless and nobody.

  • @CurtisDoesADig
    @CurtisDoesADig 24 дні тому +1

    Can somebody explain how those worlds "Don't exist" in Kingdom Hearts 1? Like I know we can't get to them in the first game, but does that necessarily mean they don't exist? Maleficent and her spooky misfits bring Snow White into the room in one of the cutscenes in Kingdom Hearts 1, reasonably from her world. And Cinderella is one of those captured as well, reasonably from her world. So they at least were around a bit at the start of Kingdom Hearts 1

    • @ProdigyxCD
      @ProdigyxCD  24 дні тому +2

      Hmmm.. those are good points. However, 0.2 I feel like is pretty good reference for when the worlds return. Though 0.2 takes place throughout 10 years, so unless the world just randomly returns to the realm of light in the middle of 0.2 I don't see how those worlds return before Sora opens the Door to Light. Its possible that the princesses were just taken captive shortly after Maleficent learned about the Princesses of Heart in Birth By Sleep.

    • @CurtisDoesADig
      @CurtisDoesADig 24 дні тому +1

      @@ProdigyxCD That is a fair point too! With the interchangeability between Alice or Snow White though for that cutscene, it does make it seem like Snow White had just been taken, similar to how Alice had just been taken.

  • @zadimi_GoingCommando
    @zadimi_GoingCommando 14 днів тому

    I thought the reason brain didn't lose his memory is because he had a medium, sigurd had his hat when brain arrived right? just like how maleficent needed a medium and someone too remeber her to come back. so would that not mean lauriam and elrena shouldn't have their memories, cause they don't have a medium, right? and also who is remebering elrena and lauriam? is it maleficent?

  • @adammorin2955
    @adammorin2955 23 дні тому

    I have a wild theory but since Xehanort has read the book of phrophies what if he knew about darkness? Then used the opportunity to remove darkness from ven to create vanitas knowning they need physical forms to be destroyed. If that’s true he knew exactly who he would recruit/have for the final fight and possibly know braig was luxu? Planned everything that happened between bbs - kh 3 knowing he will lose to sora setting the building blocks for the future. Xehanort could have known deep in his heart after seeing subject x that he would split his heart then use ansem and xemnas to recruit or set larxene and marluxia into a path to joining the organization

  • @NicoTreecko
    @NicoTreecko 24 дні тому +2

    I think there's a big chance for this to be explored in a game that focuses on Lea and Isa searching for Subject X. Their search could take them to other worlds like Dwarf Woodlands and Enchanted Dominion where they meet the recompleted Elrena and Lauriam. These characters would allow us to see right before the disciples of Ansem fell and the recruitment of others in the infancy of Organization XIII with the flashbacks of characters and Lea and Isa trying to retrace their steps, maybe even believing that being the scouts for recruits would help them find Subject X in their early Org days (considering Demyx, Luxord, Marluxia, and Larxene have ties to the Keyblade they could've been seen as a possible lead on Subject X before meeting them with Elerena and Lauriam being the friends Subject X might'vebeen talking about). Just a thought and a Lea/Axel lead spinoff would be cool and not need to follow conventional game rules

    • @ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730
      @ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730 23 дні тому

      I feel like this is an easy excuse to do a "358/2 Days" sequel with Roxas, Xion, Lea, Isa, and even Namine maybe.

  • @housinengi9512
    @housinengi9512 23 дні тому

    Think about this
    Regardless of
    Xehanort had met all but brain so far.
    Sure venous didn't become a xehanort but wad tied to his whole thing could mean something could been preped. Given xehanort met MoM before ventus was even found. Plus we do know luxu was watching over xehanort from afar. Could mean luxu found him or such and gave him to xehanort. Like how he brought maxluxies and Luxuria to the org too. And was probly the guy who found skuld since ay the time was a castle guard giving him more freedom to move and find stuff

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 24 дні тому

    Huh, how very interesting, I never thought about this, i will look forward to Part 2.

  • @captianbacon
    @captianbacon 17 днів тому

    358/-4 a story of keyblade weilders pre org and shortly after joining and the story of axel and siax sluething trying to find skuld

  • @nattylight9494
    @nattylight9494 23 дні тому

    I need some new KH injected into my veins right about now

  • @carlosescobar2543
    @carlosescobar2543 22 дні тому

    Wonder this time the organization members 9 to 12 they'll show us there real names

  • @somepickles8722
    @somepickles8722 20 днів тому

    I miss union x
    I love and miss my self insert ryne

  • @AishasAlt
    @AishasAlt 5 днів тому

    DINALD 🦆🤬: I’M A LION PIZZA CHICKEN 💦
    GOOFY 🐶💚: SAY THAT AGAIN
    FINALD(louder): IMA LION PIZZA CHI-CKEN 😫
    GOOFY🐶💚: SAY IT AGAIN!!
    FINALD🦆: IMA LION PIZZA CHICKEN 💦💦💦💦😫
    “aughh~”

  • @MoonlitLillypop
    @MoonlitLillypop 23 дні тому +2

    honestly the mystery I'm most concerned with is what Yen Sid's deal is

    • @thegummiphone
      @thegummiphone 23 дні тому +2

      He is Luxu and as it turns out Luxu is also Ephemer. Xigbar who is Brain and Gula, is lying about being Luxu. I have proof- a lot of proof. I’m 110% certain this is what is going on.

    • @adamdewitt6430
      @adamdewitt6430 11 днів тому

      No one will let him say that his name spelled backwards is "Disney".

  • @eugenioasanchezperez1406
    @eugenioasanchezperez1406 16 днів тому

    As long as they dont put world Like Frozen or sloppy Winnie the pooh, it will be a good game. They need to step it up when it comes to making the game available for a more mature audience that is actually interested in the content instead of making a kids game that will eventually die off. I hope they resolve all the issue the other games have

  • @thegummiphone
    @thegummiphone 23 дні тому +1

    I know you know I’m quite certain they are Sora’s parents. As long as you would credit me as the source of that theory, I would be really happy to see you make a video that explores the points I bring up. I was hoping to see that at least mentioned here, because honestly it’s such a rock solid take and explains pretty much everything about what’s going on in this story.

  • @BuscatiJones
    @BuscatiJones 23 дні тому

    Afterbirth by sleep

  • @Keytotruth
    @Keytotruth 23 дні тому

    So, what's the theory?

    • @ProdigyxCD
      @ProdigyxCD  23 дні тому +1

      I think Lauriam and Elrena waking up in Birth by Sleeps time is going to lead to a New Story in Kingdom Hearts where Lauriam is following traces of Strelitzias whereabouts before joining Org. 13.

  • @BillyTheKidLawrence
    @BillyTheKidLawrence 23 дні тому +1

    You messed up at 1:26. You said AFTER and not BEFORE. Fix that, please.

  • @Sora_San_.269
    @Sora_San_.269 24 дні тому

    What's going on?

  • @FrostDJakki3529
    @FrostDJakki3529 24 дні тому

    Boop