What You Need To Know Before Trying Kratom... THE TRUTH
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- / veteranswithanxiety In this video I get into everything you need to know before taking kratom. Kratom has been touted on the internet as a miracle for opioid addiction, however many people have a much different story to tell. Watch this video for my own personal experience with kratom as well as the negatives and positives of kratom.
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A kratom habit is all relative. If you are a hardcore opiate addict then a kratom habit can be a blessing. If you never had an addiction to anything then a kratom habit can feel like the end of the world.
The sweet spot with kratom is taking it a few times a week or less, then it’s all positives and no negatives. If you are a normy don’t start taking it everyday. If you are an opiate addict take as much kratom as often as you need to. Worry about tapering later. Good luck
Great practical advice! 💯
I gotta agree that there was withdrawal from quitting it as well.
yea and that shit is rough as hell too!
I’m in the process of quitting. Can you give me any advice on the best way to go about it? Are the withdrawals as bad as typical opioids?
@@sxytatain my opinion, yes. But it's just not a classic opioid (β-Arrestin pathway not triggered).
It also depends as usual on the amount and time you're taking it. And of course how your body respond.
If you're sensitive general speaking, you're more likely to feel the agony of the withdrawal. But most of the time I'd recommend to taper of anyways.
I wish you good luck buddy 🤞❤
Please take your time if possible.
@@danielsinrecoveryfor me the withdrawal seems to last longer than regular opiates.
It’s not as “intense” just like the high isn’t as “intense” as H or stronger opiates.
But it’s still the same symptoms
Hi Daniel! I have been watching your channel for over a year! I am currently senior in college and your channel has helped me want to pursue a career in becoming a narcotics counselor! Keep sharing your story because you touch lives!!!
wow that's awesome my man, keep working towards your dream that's the best advice I can give you and I can promise it will pay off in the end!
kratom saved my life honestly. it sucks to hear when someone has a bad experience with it because it did so much great things for me. i still get withdrawals if i dont take it for like 6-8 hours but i still feel the effects and ive been taking the same amount for almost a year now no tolerance buildup. it really does depend on the person though because for some people it wears off in 2 hours or even less. i used it to get off of benzos btw
yea thats good man, like i said it has its uses. but now instead of benzos you are on kratom, might not be as bad but still later down the road it might change a little bit on you, to the point you dose every 3-4 hours because the withdrawal hits that fast
@@danielsinrecovery i feel effects for 1 hour, by hour 2 i start feeling wds but i dont dose until 3-4 hours later, sometimes i dont even feel anything, its very hard to quit and kratom felt like a different drug when i started, yes i got wds if i did not take it but atleast it still gave me a good buzz, now not much but i still cant quit i tried so many times, i hate it, not the kratom but how it affects me nowdays and the crazy dependence, for a point in my life was beneficial
@@danielsinrecovery yeah that is very true. ive heard after like the 5 year mark tolerance gets like weird and you barely feel it so that would definitely make sense. thanks for making this video and spreading awareness about it though for real. people need to be able to weigh the pros and cons of kratom before they start using it.
It's good but it's also addictive and the withdrawals aren't as bad as opiates but they still suck I'd say short term use is the way
Kratom makes your peter shrink 2 inches per day every time you use it
Used it to get off Suboxone. It was the only way I could have done it. I found Kratom easy to taper down to a couple of grams and stop. I had watery eyes for 4 hours or so. That’s it.
interesting that's good to know, how low did you need to taper in order to not withdrawal as hard? 4 hrs seems like it almost never happened in the first place
Exactly what I’m tryna do man how low we’re u when u quit ?
@@danielsinrecovery I used about eight grams twice a day to stop subs and just gradually tapered to two grams once a day, then off. I had tapered Suboxone to .50 a day. The trick to tapering subs is gradually increasing time lapsed between doses. Even if you can only go an extra hour. Sub pretty much held me for 48 hours at the end of my taper.
Good morning bro, You’ve been dropping like crazy lately
Good morning bro, your Killin it bro, great job.......
Kratom has had me straight up dope sick. The withdrawal seems to last longer than other opioids in my experience. The withdrawals and paws seem to affect many people differently. In my personal experience it was awful.
Most ppl say a few days, it takes months with methadone and subs, kratom has a short half-life why you have to frequently have to dose, so no it doesn’t stay in your body long, you must not have been using stronger opioids or opiates
@Noname-bg2nn I have no dependency experiences with methadone or other strong opoids but I do know how awful it was to quit low potent opoids (huge amounts like 3g Tilidine) and Kratom (40g) too.
From my theoretical knowledge, Kratom stays almost as long in your body as methadone (bout 24h) so the withdrawal takes also around 6 times the half life. So about 6 to 10 days max.
But as mentioned, I've no actual experience with that.
How would you describe the differences between high and low potent opoids?
yea exactly what im trying to get across to people, everyone thinks this is like weed or something where you don't have real negative consequences but with kratom you absolutely do and them withdrawals are nothing to mess around with..!
How much kratom were you taking per day and for how long?
I've been taking kratom for 8 years for pain management and have been trying to get off and know the withdrawals are gonna be brutal so I'm trying to do a taper down method.
I was off of it for 5 days this year when I was in rome on vacation. I underestimated how much kratom I'd need for the trip and after 5 days sober, I had terrible withdrawals.
I'm taking about 40 grams a day but started only with 3-5 grams in the beginning. As the tolerance grew, so did the daily usage.
Thanks for sharing.
@Hbm1923, same here man. I didn't have a positive experience with kratom.
I was on kratom for just under two years! I ended up quitting around January 2023 and in the middle of the withdrawals had to board a flight back to CA from Florida. It was rough thats forsure.
Did that before 😢 couldn’t sit still AHH!! I feel tour pain or did
dam son I don't know how you pulled that off!!! incredible lol
My experience was very positive for the most part especially the financial part of it. I can get a bag of 65 capsules in Michigan for 13.77 with tax out the door compared to paying 10 bucks a pill for pain pills so that’s 650 bucks vs 13.77. The only negative part for me is sometimes I have rage problems which is bad but I don’t have health insurance so I can’t afford antidepressants so this is my only option right now. Thanks for the video.
I see, yea that's understandable, I know its a little different for everyone. as long as it has no negatives for you such as financially physically and socially then you are one of the lucky people that can take kratom with no issue!
Just buy powder and weigh it, capsules are a rip off
Never start with extracts!!!! Plain leaf powder used responsibly can be so helpful. Low dose and work up until your comfortable. Never go buy a liquid extract shot to begin with. Stay away from the extracts or enhanced powder unless you can control your usage of it. You must take tolerance breaks also.
yea i started with the big boy stuff coming from the poppy seeds i figured i would need to, but dam did that extract blow my socks off that first time it was insane!
That sleeplessness you describe reminds me of when I first started using heroin. For the first year, I was in college in a small town 120 miles away from my city. So I would never use more than 4, 5 days in a row. But I would smoke nod out and pretty much never sleep.
I’ve been taking Kratom since 2017 . Helped me get off pain meds and it helped me stop drinking . I do feel better when on it and I’ve been off it a few times . No big withdrawal symptoms however be very carful that you buy it from a company that 3 rd party test for heavy metals . I got sever heavy metal poisoning that took a year to detox off of it . I did continue to use Kratom on the detox but from a company that test for it so I had no more problems with the heavy metals. Symptoms I had from heavy metal poisoning was brain fog , major chronic fatigue also you cannot loose weight or go to the bathroom . It was horrible. But Kratom saved my life as far as pain management. And I will never go back on pain meds again . Hope this helps
I went from prescribed oxycodone that I would abuse like crazy to 100+gpd of kratom. Then switched back and fourth between the 2. And I’ll tell you my experience quitting kratom was much harder then oxy. I’m now on subutex and feel way better. I’d take subutex any day over kratom.
My opioid use started in the military as well. I injured my back while I was still in the Air Force 2012/2013ish and they were giving me 180 Percocet 10s a month, While I was still on duty. Shits insane to give a 20 year old that much
I’ve heard this from many.
Did subutex help?? I am about to get off a 5 year kratom addiction and take that.
@@UnOeufffit’s way harder to get off of, withdrawls lasts weeks to months on subs
@@djefferson5669
Well it got to a point with the percs and kratom to where they no longer helped pain and my doc wouldn’t up the dose of my percs, so I was taking everything to just feel normal.
Now the subutex pretty much makes me feel normal without having to dose every 3-4 hours, it’s ok for pain, definitely not as strong but I like it better since it takes away the cravings from everything and I’m no longer spending hundreds a month on kratom
@@These-nutz
That’s true, but at this point I’m ok with that. I’d rather be on this for a long ass time than the endless cycle of quitting kratom and relapsing. If you can quit and stay quit then that’s a better option, but if you’re an addict like my self and continue to relapse over and over then being on subs is worth it.
I’m only on 2mg a day and it’s more than enough. I have no need to up the dose
Thank you so much for this video! I've been saying these things about kratom for a long time. I usually say it's like methadone. It's less addictive than heroin but when using it you're still addicted. It could make detoxing easier, but it's not a detox in itself.
And when you start using it out of nothing, you're making yourself addicted. One day when kratom becomes illegal you will switch to heroin/fentanyl because you are addicted and have no choice.
it could deffinately end up this way thats forsure. thanks for watching and supporting!!!
I used to take it everyday for like 2-3years. A few Heaping tablespoons up to 3 times a day. I was ignorant in the facts about it. It made me feel great. It gave me energy and it gave me pain relief. I guess I was unaware of the fact that I was addicted to kratom. A few life events led me to stop taking it. And that’s when I realized just how addicted I was. I was moody. I had the shakes. I was sick. I couldn’t eat. I couldn’t t drink. I couldn’t sleep. really thought I was dying lol.this lasted like 3 months so it was miserable. but I still advocate for the use of Kratom,because it did help me and I know it helps several others around me, both young and old. people need to be aware that it’s just like every else use it in moderation and be careful. don’t be a dumbass like me. And also be careful where you get it from.
yup that sounds extremely rough, glad you are out of that rut and yes i still agree that there are some real and legitimate uses for kratom, if they could give it to people in a way that was consistent as far as potency that would make a whole lot of difference.
Your experience is totally valid but my experience on kratom is mostly positive. I think it's kept me from moving on to harder opioids because it gives me that warm content high in such a way that I can control. Been using it once a week for 5 and a half years as a treat and it's been fine as long as I don't take it on week nights. I take high dose reds and it can give me a hangover if I take it too close to bedtime which has caused me to call in sick at work in the past. I take it as a lesson learned though and changed the way I use it so that doesn't happen again. Overall a good substance in my opinion. Thank you for sharing your own story though, I've had friends get addicted to it
yea absolutely, it varies person to person on how it will affect you. unfortunately in my own experience, I couldn't keep it under control.
Once again great show + info Daniel. I personally got no relief from kratom whatsoever. Jus made my bowel movements mushy + green but like u said it affects everybody different
dam haha cant imagine shitting completely green haha thats crazy. thanks for watching and supporting my man!!!
hey daniel. long time fan here. i have a tip for your future videos. please keep your music very low or put no music at all. we love to listen to your stories but with upbeat music playing on background is distracting.
thanks for the tip will definitely keep that in mind for the next videos I drop!
Bro I’ve never done any hard drugs or psychedelics, just weed, never alcohol. Anyway, Idk why I get your videos but it’s pretty informational and entertaining.
that's good you never did man, don't ever get into that. But thank you for the support and watching my videos that's whats up bros much appreciated!
Tapped in. Good morning brotha.
hell yea good looking my boy much appreciated and good morning to you as well!
I enjoy your videos! You’re really good at it 😊
Thank you! 😊
I abruptly stopped Kratom after three years of heavy every day use.The only thing that happened was some anxiety, nothing else.I guess I was lucky, considering what I heard about other people.
yea it deffinately seems to vary between person to person
Ive had an off again on again problem with kratom. I initially did it after 2 years of being clean. At that point it really did something for me. I got on it again after jumping from being on subs for 3 years. It really didnt do anything for me and i did it for a year.
Something important to know about kratom is after around 7 grams it really stops binding to opiate receptors and starts acting as a disassociate. After a while it just gave me bad anxiety and it wasnt until i learned this i didnt really get why.
it also gave me verry bad anxiety as well!, like it was some type of stimulant rather an opioid. I could make an entire video just on that
Mitragynine type alkaloids are absolutely opioids. Opioids refer to any compound that agonizes opioid receptors, and these do. You mean they are not opiates, because opiate refers to the alkaloids that come from poppy’s that agonize opioid receptors
From what i understood it was some class of drug called an indole. idk, but i get what ur sayin
I started out taking 2-3g/day. Worked up to 22g/day over the course of 6mo. I THEN weened myself down 1g less every other day until I was at 5g. Feeling great at 5g, I have worked up to 18g/day.
Now Im down to 15g and gonna ween down and all the way off for a month or so.
But I love it like coffee. Quit drinkin over a year ago. Never felt stronger or more emotionally available. #kratom
well that's good then as long as its not having any sort of negative effects such as financial or physically then you are one of the lucky people that can do kratom without an issue!
Excellent as always! Much love ❤
thank you for watching as always Kellie it truly means a lot!!! Much love ❤️
Yea been on kratom for about 3 years now. It's sad. Just can't quit it
yea its a tough one but there are ways to do it once you are ready, and if you need any help definitely hit me up!
How much do you take? Do you measure it out each dose?
Try doing 1 LESS gram every 2 or 3 days. Feels like the easiest thing to me. Everyone reacts so differently to everything. Blows my mind.
Exactly how you explain Kratom is exactly what I’m going through.
I’m off everything else but I still take Kratom around 7-8G in capsules every 5-6hours I haven’t slept a full night in years because like you said I wake up have to redose just to sleep again.
Now I don’t even get high from it I just feel normal when I take it.
This kid is telling the truth. You can have very bad withdrawals from kratom. On par with heron if you are taking enough
absolutely, I've been there and it was absolute hell
Any more than 2 days a week you’re asking for problems. Getting off this stuff is no joke!
Happy holidays ❤🙏🏻
thank you and same to you!
I am so sorry you had a bad experience. I have been taking it for 3 years when my doc took me off my pain meds. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and been really hard on my body as a sever for 30 years. It works great for me. I have had some withdrawals when I couldn’t afford it. But it felt more like a cold than detox. However I only ever took it twice a day for pain and anxiety. When you want to come off of it which I do often so it works better I just go slow. Takes about 3 days to come off. Give it a two week break and I can reset my tolerance. What I like about it is it does feel great but helps with my depression. Plus people don’t die from kratom. There has been less than 20 people who have died with kratom in his or her system but also had Fetty in their system so I am thinking it was that.
yea its because I was replacing harder stuff with the kratom so I had to take large doses but they didn't last and so I had to continually repose all day long, it was a complete nightmare.
Good morning bro, your Killin it my man ....... Great job
hell yea bros thank you very much!
If you are an addict, The only way Kratom will benefit you is if you stop using Heroin/Opiates because you wont die from Kratom. So you get to keep your life. If you are not an addict, it will greatly improve your quality of life if you have depression/pain/sleep issues and is the better option than Opiates 100% of the time.
gonna leave a comment before and after i watch this yt vid so if you could respond that would be ideal but before watching the vid my thoughts and experiences with kratom are very mixed, done it a few times and felt absolutley nothing but one time i did it i was fucked up beyond belief and was sick for the next 1 day n a half , literally couldnt eat a single thing.
dam lol, yea there is a lot of inconsistency in batches
volume warning at the end of the video holy
Hi Daniel 👋 🌞..Great video....What I'm trying to find out is....If I took kratom I'm on suboxone...Is there other benefits in kratom that help while the Subs block the opiate receptors ....Like, If I'm on Subs n take kratom can I Still benefit from the Other ingredients in the kratom While staying on the Subs that block the Opiate receptors? Is there (Other) ingredients in the kratom? I hope this question makes sense...lol Thanks 😊 Make today a great one 👍 💪❣
yea it makes sense what your asking however i would have to say the answer is no because the subs will block the kratom from ever reaching your cns so it will not provide any benefit good or bad.
@@danielsinrecovery ...I'm not talking about the ingredient that affects the opiate part of the brain.....Is there other ingredients in kratom could help a person....I know it's confusing....Maybe if I put it this way....Ok ,Say I take a Multi Vitamin but I'm on a( Vitamin K blocker) so I wouldn't get the K from it But I would get All the Other vitamins in the pill that would help me out....Is there Anything Else in kratom that helps? I've been trying to research this for awhile now...It's hard to explain in a text..lol 🙃
@@shitzngiggles3765I get what you’re saying there’s a ton of akaloids in kratom that work differently. From my personal experience there isn’t
You would still get some benefits from kratom because it hits on multiple receptors, not just the opiate. Kratom has a light opiate, light benzo and light stimulant effect so the answer to your question is yes.
For that reason I would be careful with kratom you will get addicted and dependent real quick and the withdrawals are horrendous.
You 100% on the money stay away from unless you like withdrawals!
Clint
exactly
Withdrawals are no joke. Among other things it gave me akathisia. I felt like I was gonna burst out of my skin, it was torture.
Yes kratom withdrawals are absolutely no joke they're absolutely horrible as a matter of fact and wow I never heard somebody getting that from kratom before but I could totally see it happening hope you're doing well nowadays thank you for watching thank you for your support.
How did the euphoria from Kratom compare with heroin? Also how did the withdrawals compare in severity with heroin?
shit in my opinion it was dam near the exact same. but every one's body is a little different so I suppose your experience could vary
Why I was afraid of using it when I was coming off blues
what u mean?
If you're going to use drugs, try to follow harm reduction...
i used kratom to come off of dope and worked great but im a drug addict so i abused it and then i got on subs to get off the kratom. 4yrs later i wanted off the subs so quit cold turkey and i was sick for over a month and i broke so went back on kratom and now 2 m8nths after that I'm stuck back on kratom. Its all shit and im not responsible enough to use anything I'm a true dope fiend stuck in the viscous cycle. yes its true i can use kratom without anyone finding out and im not selling my kids Christmas gifts for some kratom but im just not well its all the same shit like i said..Don't try it if you're a drug addict you will just be replacing one habit for another, the only way is abstinence. Good luck!
yea gotta be careful with the kratom its one of those things that can get out of hand supper quickly!
@@danielsinrecovery I use very little kratom and stay away from extracts but I gotta live a lie telling people I'm clean and how proud of me they are, its exhausting..
Don’t hate. (LOL) Constructive feedback, maybe it’s just me or my iPad , but the music is overshadowing your voice. It’s just a smidge too loud.
It might be just a little, Been playing around with the music volumes and everything. Noted for future vids
@@danielsinrecovery thanks for the reply Daniel! I hope it didn’t come across as rude or anything like that. I actually use your videos to chill out with; almost ASMR (LOL)
keep them coming!
Loved the MRE video. It’s great seeing it from your inside POV.
Yooo what a banger bro🫡🔥 !! Been waiting for someone trustworthy to make a vid on this !! Low key wanted to try it but to get the feeling of opium but I don’t need ! All I need is tree and 🍄🍄 and we good 😂!
exactly man stick with the sticky green not that powder green lol
@@danielsinrecovery hell yea bro !! Well said g 💨
I've heard some pretty nasty stories about kratom's effects on the liver, but obviously these are just personal accounts. I doubt there is enough data out there about it, but i would be really really really cautious about anything that is not studied, that is not regulated, or that is new and hyped up. Who knows what's in that powder, wherever you get it from, and what it's doing to you internally. You really can't tell until the damage is there.
I am currently taking anywhere between 50 and 75 capsules a day and let me tell you. After about 12 to 14 hours of no use, the withdraws are horrid. Quitting kratom has to be done through tapering usually and if you are someone that can cold turkey it. Props to you. But thats not for most of us. And to anyone reading, please dont get addicted like me, where you are taking 50 to 75 capsules a day, it will ruin you and cause so much anxiety, possibly high blood pressure, gut inflammation, and possible other health issues. Its hitting me hard mentally and tons of cardiophobia. Be careful and respect this plant guys
yea I remember the anxiety that shit would give me it was insane, once your taking insane doses it starts working against you for sure!
I enjoy kratom but get some naseau from some of the strains. However ginger seems to solve it. I would enjoy more videos like this. I highly recommend kratom to those who haven’t tried it. It seems the safety profile is higher on kratom and people tend not to shun it as bad as said heroin or fentanyl.
its definitely safer, the only thing i have against it is how its sort of marketed as a miracle opioid addiction cure when its just not the case. People end up getting onto it and then they cant get off or go back and fourth to their drug of choice and you get stuck in this cycle, but i know that some people out there have and can use kratom responsibly. but the thing is just making sure you don't stay on it forever.
I’m an ex heroin addict. Been an opiate addict for years. I’m currently on kratom and bro I want to quit so bad. It’s giving me anxiety and heart palpitations that I never felt with opiates. Everyday I’m in a constant state of either dope sickish or super high anxiety when I dose. The withdrawals are so close to true opiates and it’s hard to cold turkey bc they sell it like everywhere. Plus with dope, I had to come up with 50-100 bucks to go get high but this stuff I can buy 50 grams for 12 dollars. I’m using like 20 gpd. Fuckkkk this shit :/
i was in your same spot doing 70gpd. you neeeeeeed a milligram scale and a taper schedule lower your dose and this will go away
Like with poppy seed tea, the effects are not reliable with different vendors and even batches from the same vendor. But good thing is it's much harder to die from too much kratom as you will throw up before you take enough to cause respiratory depression. But extracts can be fatal.
interesting never knew that about the extracts. But yea kratom was a no go for me thats forsure
I take it once like every two weeks for pain 3 to 6 g only for like 5 years I know it's addictive that's why we must take breaks but to me hey you goin to take a perc for pain just take the Kratom .
yea deffinately not good to take continuously
Kratom withdrawal is a brutal tbh, I been hooked on it all, subs, fent, real h, Dilaudid, everything under the sun. Kratom withdrawals are just as bad as subs for me. Maybe not as long, but bad.
5:40 on kratom alone it’s impossible to nod but when I smoke weed, take a kpin or two and take my 10g dose I can catch nods for maybe two hours
interesting thanks for sharing
@@danielsinrecovery no problem Daniel
I only use weed for now and I’m trying to avoid anything else😅
definitely a smart decision
I remember everyone saying it was easy to quit, 2years later, daily use of like 70g I had severe withdrawals ofc what people say it still sucked 😂
yea man, that's what I want to get across to people with this video, kratom is not as harmless as it has been marketed
You can nod off of kratom with no tolerance. I think it’s much more dangerous than Joe Rogan thinks.
Yes you can. Can confirm that without a tolerance you get nods.
yoyoyo 1995 i learned abt kratom in the south pac islands
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Kratom is dope. And you can def nod. But the withdrawals for me are bearable. you just gotta be up and moving. My withdrawals just made me mildy uncomfortable.
But I done went through benzo withdrawal for two years sooo. That’s probably why it’s cake
damm for me it was hell on earth, skin crawling like a mfr
Honestly, I was clean and completely sober and I started taking kratom for a few months and ended up relapsing and in turn going back to the damn methadone clinic.
I like taking it if it werent for it i would be dead from fentanyl by now because i love opioids, and kratom feels like it and i love it
Hi Danial
Had a great interview that would be good and helpful. I did the only 8 hour detox that i know of in Vegas. You should be able to look him up nice guy answers own phone. His name is Dr, Yee, and if you want to know about making money fast ask him he knows.
Clint
interesting ill need to look this guy up! thanks
Kratom withdrawals were worse than my oxy withdrawals tbh
yea i can agree it honestly was really bad for me as well, like definitely on the same level as most withdrawals. but then i see people say they felt nothing so its a weird substance,
I get bad stomach problems from kratom and I vomit.
Idk what the cause is tho I tried a lot like teas n stuff but I keep on vomitting
More great content.
big thanks my bros!
Man if you're gonna post yesterday's video and delete it at least post a follow up man. We want updates. I really hope you did whatever necessary to feel better or OK at least
its not deleted what do you mean? it was a live stream you might need to scroll down on my channel page to see it. but its still up has almost 3k views
We have not got that stuff over here in London the UK we don't have crystal meth or fentinal we have crack coke heroin speed mdna weed hash and spice also pre gabbs and Valium that's about it really
interesting, yea i heard that the uk isnt all littered with the fentanyl at this moment.
I got off Kratom January 2022. It was an absolute nightmare
yea i believe it, so many people think this stuff is like weed or something, no walk in the park whatsoever
@@danielsinrecovery no cap I'll NEVER go thru that again
How much were you using before you quit? Was it cold turkey?
@@nicholaskoenig3106 yeah it was cold turkey because I ended up going to jail smh. It was about 6 to 8 grams a day
@@andrewbohannon6011got of it may 2023 after 5 years. litteraly terrified to touch the stuff again the wd was soul crushing
Nice 👍 Please make a phenibut video!
Kratom saved me from Oxycodone and O-dsmt.
On the other side i am addicted to Kratom for 3 years.
I take 40 grams per day.
It feels like opioids.
Yeah u eat enough of it you definitely get a nice buzz
yup, and that's a lot per day, I hope you will be able to come off of that someday my brother I feel like it may have other negative effects long term, more so mentally than anything
DONT USE KRATOM
Exactly.
Someone died from it. Lungs filled with fluid. He was also an ex addict.
word ! interesting! i didn't know that, any way you could shoot me a link to an article or something? would love to take a look at that and possibly make a video out of it. Because most people believe that kratom is completely harmless when it comes to overdose risk
Yea there is but to me it wasn't as bad as opiates it only lasted a few nights versus the opiate withdrawal lasting over a month
dam, yea that's definitely a little better than a month lol, what opioid were you taking?
@@danielsinrecovery oxys blue 30s
Oh mushrooms as well
interesting
Only once. Took 3 grams of this black stuff and layed in bed till early morning, I felt silence to be hella pleasurable
interesting it must have been some sort of extract
kratom just made me puke allot
interesting, lucky I never had that issue however it tastes terrible
@@danielsinrecovery lol it definitely taste like crap, I used to take a empty pill bottle and a scale zero it out and weight out 8-14grams at a time for awhile till I screwed up and found my way to subbes again, but I would usually just toss n wash it bro
@@danielsinrecovery oh yeah bro, thank you so so much for your service to homie 🙏 🔥 🚀 🌌
I was hooked on opioids for a length of time, I tried kratom with grapefruit juice, and it wrecked my gut. I actually had to have my appendix removed because it harmed my digestive system so much. Be careful if anyone wants to substitute kratom for your normal opioid use
Let's not get it twisted captain its a opioid, the term opioid means it acts on the mu alpha and delta and opioid like receptors. Anything that hits them receptors and sub type. Agreed the kratom community is crazy 🤪
But iv used it to come off subs also iv abused it so for active addicts and recovering addicts it's a deadly ground. This shit will get you lit for sure. Plus it's a partial agonist like subs all the other alkaloids complment it's use but 11 hydroxy-mytragynine is so powerful it has studies of it killing a cat 🐈 I know a cat roofless. Sad studies are like that. But the energy is crazy from mytraganine is a power coffee like stimulating effects.. but yeah no its a tool though. But I abused it in the end.
Just if u have chronic pain guys or want to cycle it maybe u could use it socially but be careful it is fire of a plant 🪴
No its truly not an opioid. Chemically speaking its some other type of drug class, indoles or something like that i think, But it still acts on all 3 opioid receptors nonetheless
My brother had a friend who passed away from kratom use.. so I stay away from it.
How did they pass away from Kratom? I wasn’t aware that was possible.
Apparently it does damage to organs over time but I'm uncertain, all I know this person did it quite often@@heatherw3228
dam im sorry to hear that.
@heatherw3228 from what I understand in some people it can mess with their liver I believe specifically
You’re forgetting about PAWS (Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome)
what do you mean?
@@danielsinrecovery where you could be suffering from withdrawals from your DOC thinking it’s from Kratom. Google it
I took it. I lost 2 days. I don’t remember anything about those 2 days. I would avoid it. I never touched it again.
That doesn’t sound like kratom at all lol
not gonna lie you might have had something other than kratom
placebo effects is all this shiet is yall
Where you fucked up was with talking the extracts FIRST …..NEVER EVER DO THAT! Because you just RAMPED your tolerance to the ROOF ! Kratom is awesome for opioid withdrawal but like you said it’s NOTHING compared to oxy or anything like that but people are so different there are light Users and heavy opioid Users….. but I’ll tell you kratom withdrawal for me was way better than the oxy withdrawal! ✌🏻
yea i think somebody else said the same thing about the extracts. definitely did my tolerance in, but the reason was because my tolerance was already so high the regular kratom wasn't touching it so i got used to the extracts and slowly was able to start taking the regular powder and it would have and effect but it took about a week of only kratom use