I actually have been using this for a while, I have seen this technique before and gave it a try, it also works well on a kick too. Also a nice bit of tape saturation helps too.
Brilliant, what a fantastic piece of tuition, so helpful as I felt all my bass tracks were lacking in something, but just could figure it out? But now, yes now I know, thank you so much.
Great tip. This is very common when mixing metal music. You need that distortion and bite to cut through the mix, but you also want to pin down that low end and keep it tick throughout the song.
Braeden, a couple things. I think you have a good ear. As you walk through your production steps, what you've focused on and described matches what I hear. Second, I appreciate your comment about the logic compressors sounding somewhat similar. While there are differences, a good engineer can work with most any of them to get the sound they're after. It's easy for a new producer to get caught up in nuances and miss the larger objective.
This confirms a few other's similar techniques but it's great to see you get similar results from using stock Logic plugs. Well done. Can you perhaps show how you used the sub bass plug? THat's something that I've been hit or miss using. Thanks!!
Is there any advantage to splitting the high and low tracks if you're using Neutron, since it let's you compress, saturate, and transient shape specific frequency bands? For example, you could have a 8:1 ratio on the low end, and a 4:1 and some saturation on the top end.
Now wait just a minute, you also have this full channel strip on the summing stack w/ Channel EQ, Pro-Q3, Comp, SubBass, Console EQ... what's going on there hmmm? :D
Hi Chris, I have been struggling with getting my bass to sound great. This technique is great. Thank you! Any reason why you used a Linear EQ than the Standard EQ in Logic?
Thanks Chris @whylogicprorules! I’ve been struggling with mixing bass a lot lately. How do you factor in what sounds like a bump in volume in the mixed bass? (Since louder often sounds “better” to the ears). Also which logic verb setting are you using on the snare/kit? Thx!!
Very helpful conceptually. I remember my early days of dealing with digital audio and trying to (being forced to?) learn and apply bass mix techniques from analysis of analog recordings, then having to massage the bass track using frequency dependent compression to dial in a passable sound. Back when using ADATs :-0, this was quite the challenge for a newbie like me, but I enjoyed the learning process. Using the brand new (at the time) A/D - D/A converters, I produced some positively mediocre results- but at least I had studied enough about human audio perception across the freqs to know why. Everything was a compromise, but the little studios still managed to produce some decent mixes. As the converters and the processing power improved, our ability to deal with complex bass freqs became less frustrating again (and better sounding too!). BUT - we still are obliged to learn about how bass wavelengths propagate and are perceived in nature - IMHO. I really like your process here, dealing with the elements across multiple tracks. Question- could this technique inadvertently introduce some phase conflicts when you glue the bass tracks back together? Thanks as always for the fantastic videos. Thanks to Logic I'm a kid in the candy store again, albeit a really old kid. WTH
man I have a question... Is there a way to set the midi input to be always at max level? So I can record every note at its full range and LATER just change the velocity? this would help a LOTTTT
Yes, look up 'midi fx.' They come stock in logic. I use them for a similar purpose, I set a ceiling for the velocity on my rhodes VSTs for live use (preserves low end), but you can set them to just do max velocity all the time if you want
Zero offense meant here, but this is my first time seeing your face and it's not what I imagined- I expected someone in their late 20's/early 30's, not a gray mustache lol. I appreciate vids very much by the way!
Song voice sounds like Peter Gabriel. Lower your voice volume a bit compare to the song you play. Have to "pump up the volume" when listening to the instruments or song ;-)
this is similar to warren huart's approach which has totally taken the stress out of mixing bass. now i look forward to it! thanks Chris!
I actually have been using this for a while, I have seen this technique before and gave it a try, it also works well on a kick too. Also a nice bit of tape saturation helps too.
What's tape? :-D
Brilliant, what a fantastic piece of tuition, so helpful as I felt all my bass tracks were lacking in something, but just could figure it out? But now, yes now I know, thank you so much.
Great tip. This is very common when mixing metal music. You need that distortion and bite to cut through the mix, but you also want to pin down that low end and keep it tick throughout the song.
Very very helpful man. Thank you so much!
Thanks for this tip! Will try it right away! And good to see your face eventually!
parallel processing is a game changer for bass. parallax by neural dsp is a great plugin for this
Came here to type this! I grabbed Parallax on sale, and it’s so versatile. Get that driven hi eq and thumpy low end
02:21 - Processed
03:02 - Original
Thank you 🍀
Very cool tune as well!
Nice tip, nice presentation
Braeden, a couple things. I think you have a good ear. As you walk through your production steps, what you've focused on and described matches what I hear. Second, I appreciate your comment about the logic compressors sounding somewhat similar. While there are differences, a good engineer can work with most any of them to get the sound they're after. It's easy for a new producer to get caught up in nuances and miss the larger objective.
Excellent tip! Thank you!! Makes so much sense. Going to try it out.
Amazing tutorial thanks for sharing!.
I do love your Mixing Series 👍 keep on going Bro....best "Logic X and more" Channel around ✌🏻🎼
Nice direction for the channel!
Great tip, gonna try it!
This confirms a few other's similar techniques but it's great to see you get similar results from using stock Logic plugs. Well done. Can you perhaps show how you used the sub bass plug? THat's something that I've been hit or miss using. Thanks!!
Thanks for another great video.
I like it, I will have to try this out.
Is there any advantage to splitting the high and low tracks if you're using Neutron, since it let's you compress, saturate, and transient shape specific frequency bands? For example, you could have a 8:1 ratio on the low end, and a 4:1 and some saturation on the top end.
Now wait just a minute, you also have this full channel strip on the summing stack w/ Channel EQ, Pro-Q3, Comp, SubBass, Console EQ... what's going on there hmmm? :D
Great and pro tecnique
Hi Chris, I have been struggling with getting my bass to sound great. This technique is great. Thank you!
Any reason why you used a Linear EQ than the Standard EQ in Logic?
Really great song! What's the song and the artists name?
One more question. How was the original bass track record? Direct? Amp Sim?
Nice. Let's go!
I really liked the song btw
Thanks Chris @whylogicprorules! I’ve been struggling with mixing bass a lot lately. How do you factor in what sounds like a bump in volume in the mixed bass? (Since louder often sounds “better” to the ears). Also which logic verb setting are you using on the snare/kit? Thx!!
Volume match and then a/b them.
Very helpful conceptually. I remember my early days of dealing with digital audio and trying to (being forced to?) learn and apply bass mix techniques from analysis of analog recordings, then having to massage the bass track using frequency dependent compression to dial in a passable sound. Back when using ADATs :-0, this was quite the challenge for a newbie like me, but I enjoyed the learning process.
Using the brand new (at the time) A/D - D/A converters, I produced some positively mediocre results- but at least I had studied enough about human audio perception across the freqs to know why. Everything was a compromise, but the little studios still managed to produce some decent mixes. As the converters and the processing power improved, our ability to deal with complex bass freqs became less frustrating again (and better sounding too!). BUT - we still are obliged to learn about how bass wavelengths propagate and are perceived in nature - IMHO.
I really like your process here, dealing with the elements across multiple tracks. Question- could this technique inadvertently introduce some phase conflicts when you glue the bass tracks back together?
Thanks as always for the fantastic videos. Thanks to Logic I'm a kid in the candy store again, albeit a really old kid. WTH
man I have a question... Is there a way to set the midi input to be always at max level? So I can record every note at its full range and LATER just change the velocity? this would help a LOTTTT
Yes, look up 'midi fx.' They come stock in logic. I use them for a similar purpose, I set a ceiling for the velocity on my rhodes VSTs for live use (preserves low end), but you can set them to just do max velocity all the time if you want
Why Chris Rules. AM I right!?! 😎
how did he solo the bass tracks without unclicking S
Bass bass bass
🙏🏻
The old saying more is better.
You took a whole video to say that yes, you added some compression to the bass....good
Zero offense meant here, but this is my first time seeing your face and it's not what I imagined- I expected someone in their late 20's/early 30's, not a gray mustache lol. I appreciate vids very much by the way!
Dude same lmao. It sounded like he was in his late 20s to me.
oh snap, you handsome bastard. that's a sick shirt. somehow your voice is younger than you lol
Song voice sounds like Peter Gabriel. Lower your voice volume a bit compare to the song you play. Have to "pump up the volume" when listening to the instruments or song ;-)