Whaaat? You totally missed it, probably because of all that nail biting bike sorcery he was able to capture. I haven't seen trail thrashing that rad since Joey Moskowitz lost a wheel mid-flight on his candy apple red BMX while jumping hills at the ore-cuts in Junior High. Shit made the Wichita paper. I had to use my journey t shirt to stop the arterial bleeding from where his upper thigh was penetrated all the way through by one of the forks bending backward upon landing! But that pales in comparison to this video. I felt the instructions were clear and concise, and the editing was studio worthy, as was the costume changes. The parts I found exciting were the points on chain dynamics, gear box to helmet ratio, and steady state theory. What do you want him to do, tell you how to install it??? C'mon!! As far as I'm concerned, my next stop will be swagging my beast out with rad gear....saddle bags , more decals, then the next stop will be BIKE WEEK, WOOT!! Daytona WOOT, WOOT...BEACH ....WOOT WOOT WOOT!!!!
The thing about center motors is that they wear out chains sprockets and bearing and rims fast . And the battery's don't last as long as they say which are very expensive !
I did a whole season with the BBS02 in Northern Ontario. It can handle rain sleet and snow like nothing. The programming cables helps a lot. I unlocked 9 levels and slow each of them down so my legs don't spin too fast. You get that when the speed is about 10% less than power level.
Hey there! I just stumbled upon a new project called the freebeat Morph 2-in-1 eBike and it sounds incredible! Not only does it offer a smooth riding experience, but it also has some outstanding features. One feature that caught my attention is the indoor recharge capability, allowing you to charge the bike while using it indoors. That's a game-changer for those rainy or snowy days when you can't go outside. Plus, with its 80mm front suspension and puncture-resistant fat tires, it seems like it can handle any terrain with ease. Can't wait to try it out myself! Keep up the great work, freebeat!
When you add the price of battery and display in there, you're starting to approach the price of a pre-built ebike. Kits seem like a good option if you already have a decent bike frame on hand, though. I wonder if it's practical to DIY a battery pack out of 18650's or another lithium-ion cell to the same specs as the factory battery pack--that'd bring the cost of these kits down dramatically.
Top tip, for mounting the battery use 'rivnuts' as only two bolts to hold the battery isn't enough. I've been running this exact set up for around 7 months with no problems since using extra bolts to hold my battery, which is a 52v version. Also the gear change sensor is a must. It'll save your chain and all other drive components. I've also put on a 203 front rotor which is very wise as my bike does 59kph on the flat, standard 160 rotors struggle, I've also a 160 fully floating rotor on the rear. Whys your battery upside down? If you have it on the right way up water won't go into it.
I built so many kits and even switched out kits from one bike to another four or five times so I started using Velcro to hold batteries on any kind of frame and is easy to install and un install. And I have never had a battery come lose or come off. plus no rattle! I buy battery bricks and armor them myself and install a power switch to conversion kit to keep the battery from popping when plugging it to the kit.
Dal Venable could be an idea as the standard method of bolting it onto the water bottle mount has only two bolts, which on an aluminium frame definitely isn't enough.
i seen also a video where they put a velcrostrap around the frame and battery to make sure the battery stays put, i bet u could fit some little pieces of an innertube, to absorb the shocks while driving...:)
@@nudgeA7 Actually I armor my battery then add the stick on 3M Velcro to both the frame and the battery, then add Velcro straps. It becomes part of the bike won't move or rattle. And I can hang a battery pretty much anywhere on the bike that is out of my way.
It certainly looks a lot easier to install it than early generation conversion kits with their strap on bags, wires all over the place, warnings not to get the kit wet or rained on. The placement of the mid drive motor & electronics makes this ideal for normal or reverse trikes, recumbent, maybe even some quads or multiple passenger bikes.
I put one of these kits on a 2003 Gary Fischer with disc brakes, upgraded to larger rotors on the front. I'm 61 and in pretty good shape but man this thing allows me to go to places I really couldn't or wouldn't go on a regular bike plus I still get a decent workout (nothing like I would on a regular one for sure) but again, I can go places and for way longer then I would otherwise. Its pretty freaking cool. Sometimes I just like to be out exploring and not so much wanting a killer workout and where I live it gets so hot and humid that a regular bike would just be awful during the hot months.
I have an old Gary Fischer been in my shed for years from the 90's thinking about converting it to an ebike. Doesn't have disc breaks has old school rim clamp brakes. Not sure it would be worth it or just find a used newer bike that has disc brakes. My state has no limits except for no faster then 28 mph. Only thing they want a manufacture sticker what class it is. I probably could just print up a label from a label maker.
I've got the same mid-drive motor it peaks at 1200w which is 112 Nm of torque and if you get the eggridder V2 display you can Configure the settings from your phone because its Bluetooth I love it I've got full throttle all the time plus I don't need to set up in my laptop all the time it's Instant I could change them when I'm out if I wanted to but now I'm setup I just leave it alone 👍🏾😊
I've been using a 36V 500W conversion kit from BAFANG (looks identical to the one in the video) since Sep 2018 as my preferred daily commuter, they are excellent!!! I used a little frame bag to hide all the spare cabling & connectors so everything looks nice & neat! STRONGLY RECOMMEND!!
@@lennypen1978 Frame bags, they're little triangular shaped bags that go on the inside of the frame. Usually for storing things. But I;m guessing he's cut a hole out of the bottom of his and stuck it on to hide the battery. Just google bike frame bag, there shouldn't be any shortage of results it's what they're actually called.
@@benpar8120 Range from like 250 to a grand. I'd say most of the ones under 5-600 aren't really worth it. Will be quite a low wattage AKA reduction in power top speed and acceleration and weight capacity. If you do bump tracks, down hil or anything really that requires a bit of a drop in you need to be careful as these things are going to stick right out
I've now done three of these and they are easy to install (as long as you get the right bike with the correct crank size) and they are bomb proof and brilliant to use
@@ride30r2die At the time I did my last one, around 2019, it cost about £450 plus the cost of the bike. I don't know the current amount and have been looking at alternative hub mounted motors. Just for a change and to try them out. They are cheaper but not necessarily as good. Bafang go on forever...
I put one on a used 2009 cannondale downhill bike a few years ago with a 38 tooth front sprocket and its awesome. I have a battery in a backpack and the xt90 plugs under the seat. I used the EGO 56V 5AH battery from home depot. Get an eggrider computer and you can use your phone to change everything.
I also use Ego 56v batteries on my Bafang BBS02 ebike. In addition, I use Greenworks 60v batteries (5aH) but you have to be careful as the system will shutdown for over voltage protection (Error code 07) when anything over 60v is detected. I have over 1200 miles on the ebike as of Dec. 2022 and it still runs like new. Drivetrain is 3-speed Nexus IGH. Actually, you can do fine with just a single speed sprocket. I wouldn't think you'd ever need more that 5 speeds if you're using an ebike.
You didn't have to reprogram the 48V Bafang motor & controller to run on a 56V battery? How did you connect wires to the EVO battery's terminals ? and was splicing needed to connect those wires into the Bafang motor wires ? With 5 Amps what was your range ? Thanks
Ive had no problem going to 56V I read somewhere that the speed controller is fine with it . Its the AMPs that will blow the controller. I set my max amps to 20 amps with the programmer, i forget but 28amps is actual MAX. so 56x20=1120watts. I have it geared with a 38 tooth Lekki on the front for so many reasons. I 3dprinted a battery holder with aluminum contacts that looks very close to what the EGO charger looks like. You could repurpose an extra charger if you dont have a 3dprinter.
I put a similar mid-drive kit on a 29er Kent Trouvaille. The bike was $350, the kit was about $800. Sold it to a friend for $1,650 & I have regretted ever since, since I don't have the time or patience anymore to build another one. It was my Covid project, if you will. It used to go 25 to 36mph going downhill with slick touring tires. 🤣
I am 40 pounds overweight and out of shape. Took my old Mongoose conversion to the trail over the weekend. Had a 2 hours blast. Mostly Assist Level 1 for climbing. I realize I need better brakes
I get 38 mph without pedalling on my 1000W mid drive conversion. Awesome performance. I wouldn’t bother with changing over the brake cables or adding a gear sensor next time as I really don’t need gears, the motor having so much torque!
I'm interested in making my own! If you don't mind, could you tell me what parts you ordered for your custom ebike? That would be super helpful, thanks!
I bought a cable where I can plug into the software with my phone and use an app I downloaded to change the percentages of power on each pedal assist. So like 5% on 1, 10% on 2 etc. That way you can fine tune each PAS mode to your needs. Going 10 mph on PAS 1 is too fast in my opinion, it should be more like 4 or 5 mph. I also changed out the 46 tooth front gear mine came with to a 32 tooth as it would hit almost 40 MPH at top speed which was nuts, now it only hits 30ish.
You can control your speed with the gear setup. Bigger front chainring highest on the back will give you more speed. Get a good cassette for the rear and you can have good torque fot uphill mountain biking. And if you are going to go 35mph you should get a motorcycle helmet and gear.
I had my friend installed 2 of the 48v 750w on both of my Trek bikes and it was the best thing I have ever had done 3 years ago and still no issues or problems with this setup... two thumbs up 👍 👍
I kind of like this one where you have to replace the whole crank plus my three front gears on my mountain bike are useless cuz they don't switch out of the second gear
Same question. I have a Trek 4900 mountain bike. How would I know if would fit? Do you have to take it apart a measure bore on crank? Thanks in advance!
Mid drive is great as you get the advantage of gears, but i feel like it will increase likelihood of bad shifting while going uphill. I live in wales with very steep hills, so I think a 1000W for a 120kg guy would be a better option. Perhaps a 1000Kw on the back wheel and 300 W on the front wheel. More hill climbing power and 2 wheel drive for offroading in sand and snow.
I went with a hub drive because I'm new to e bikes and figured I would destroy the chain with poorly timed shifts on hills. Once I get some miles under my belt I'll probably switch to a mid drive. Mids have the advantage of keeping the motor in the sweet spot but for beginners hubs are more forgiving.
Actually, the BBS02-750 has 120Nm of torque - not just 100nm as you stated. To quote their website: "Powerful, fast, and quiet Bafang BBS02B street-legal mid-drive motor. This motor is rated at 750 watts but puts out a 1470 watts peak when asked and does it more quietly than any e-bike on the market. With 120 Nm of torque, it has 50% more torque and 100% more power than the motors currently sold in factory e-bikes."
I’ve had my 750 watt Bafang conversation for 2 years now. I weigh around 190lb the 750 watt has no trouble going up hills in mid gears best to use the lowest gear. Anyway it’s a great design…
@@zao.224 it is really great in my opinion. A lead acid battery would go maybe 2 miles. I measured the electricity going into the charger and it takes less than 1 one kilowatt to charge these lithium ion batteries. Here 1 kilowatt is about .12 cents. That is better than 4 miles to the penny.
Once I am not able to commute on muscle power anymore, I'll definitely consider converting my bike. But that'll most likely take a loooong time, so luckily not doing it yet.
Great build. Someone had asked about the rock gardens, and that is the biggest problem with a bafang is the lower ground clearance. I found it interesting that you said it would fit in the triangle, not sure the bafang would fit there, That would be interesting if it would, and deal with the battery afterwards. Great build, love my marlin 7 with a BBS02.
Lol if anything the motor will protect the chain and chainring. The motor is solid. Well at least the 1000w. 750w Looks like a toy. I have yet to hit it on a rock so I'm just talking out my ... until then.
Good idea, definatley be better for road and flat trails, anything more than that and its going to get battered by everything. Just like your frame does. Sounds like it will pull nicely though!
1000watt will chew through your chain and cassette real quick...believe me I know. So be prepared for the added cost of drivetrain components that need to be replaced if you go the 1000watt route. 750watt although is quite powerful with 120nm, doesn't punish your drivetrain nearly as much as the 1000watt.
At a 1000 watt it would be better to use a planetary geared rear hub motor and it will not eat your chain and are lighter than the 1000 watt direct drive systems but it really depends on how you plan on using the bike. I live in the city so hub units are great but if you plan on making a off road riding bike mid drives are the bomb but trust everyone here 750 good nuff! I believe that equates to 2 hp
@@dalvenable331 there is many problems with rear hubs, need additional controller+ they are ugly and they are worse at uphills that mid drives and also you can mod bbshd to 3000 watts if you want to.
Make sure you check dimensions though. I bought one for a 7 speed trike. The sprocket sits in further on a trike, so it only worked for gear 7, anything lower and it would throw the chain
The parts are relatively cheap,, Its a good battery thats expensive. There is cheaper solutions then one here. I'm looking to convert my rat rod cruiser. Thanks for the video
Thanks for the vid. I'm disappointed that the BB shaft is a square tapered design. Ditching your modern cranks and downgrading makes no sense. Another concern is the cheap chainring. The chain will drop as soon as you hit a bump or even when back pedaling, so right from the start, one needs to replace it with a narrow wide aftermarket ring.
I've got a similar setup, I get over 35 miles on a charge, (on the road). I think you could get away with a smaller battery offroad, if you don't need all that range.
I'm saving up for the HD version kit I plan to use it for Door dashing I want to motor most of the time with two spare batteries so I can swap and make a 8 hour shift
its the best, luna cycle and other places, rebuilds at home, all parts u need. Huge new building in europe. Luna has jailbroke bafangs and share firmware.
Hi Michael , I installed a BBSHD 1000 watts on my mountain bike , go to cyber bikes on you tube , it's a shop in Australia where the tech Fillippe as great video's on install. Install is simple just make sure that the chainring does not touch the motor when you install it. Get some small spacers to obtain a perfect chain line. You'll also need to contend with the motor brackets loosening which can be fixed with clamps to secure the motor to bike frame. Get one it's totally worth it you'll be amazed on performance especially the BBSHD 1000 watt.
My e-bike rear hub motor is literallly just a 7km bike lmao. To the other side of town and MAYBE back if I’m lucky. I’d need to charge in between to keep it topped up.
Yeah it is good editing. Unfortunately it was a green screen for the trail. If notice the water and mud he rode through had no splash at all, and the little bit of foliage he rode on didn't move. Plus a shadow under the tire as he is riding. Still going to research the motor though.
@@petercroft9895 my eco mode (1) uses 24-50 watts is why. I have to do 9/10 the work to get this range on flat. The other eco mode is unlimited range mode (0) but that just a heavy bike. I can't wait to tour on it. I need the power for some bad mountain roads here in the 1/2 waste land of Arizona.
@@Eric_Tennant Fair enough, I guess I'd get the same sort of range if I ran mine like that, but it would really only be making up for its own weight. Commuting, I just dial it up all the way.
Hey does yours work on the larger cogs? On mine the chain will ride on top of the teeth and slide off the bike if the lower gears are used. It works fine in high gears (low cog) but the slightest angle in the chainline causes it to come off
4:31 that is not peddle assist, peddle assist goes on when you PEDDLE you made a electic bike you can drive on with out peddeling, that will get you a 290 euro fine in my country!
How do your tires not pop? Mine popped the first time I used my ebike kit but I’m assuming I didn’t pump it enough? I had a hand pump and not a gauge so I didn’t know the psi
I had a similar 250W motor installed on my old mountainbike and it still works but there were no shifting or braking sensors available and this the drive train receives an unhealthy amount of wear and tear from the 90nm motor. I've since switched to a hub drive ebike which I think will likely be easier to maintain but at only 700 miles in I don't know that yet.
I’m sorry but it’s not clear to me which battery you used. The link takes me to only a no battery setup. If I were to buy the battery separately, which battery specs do I need for it to work?
just a tad more expensive, and surely u gonna need a bosch battery too, making it more expensive too, this bafang isjust an affordable solution when u need some assist on ur bike
GREAT VIDEO! My question is can you use the motor assist for walking speeds, like 1 to 2 mph? Or is level one automatically 9 to 10mph? I am converting a wheel chair that is built for trail use and made from mountain bike parts but needs to go walking speeds.
How about a follow up? Maybe a breakdown on the installation itself? What you need to know, What to avoid, etc
This would be nice
Whaaat? You totally missed it, probably because of all that nail biting bike sorcery he was able to capture. I haven't seen trail thrashing that rad since Joey Moskowitz lost a wheel mid-flight on his candy apple red BMX while jumping hills at the ore-cuts in Junior High. Shit made the Wichita paper.
I had to use my journey t shirt to stop the arterial bleeding from where his upper thigh was penetrated all the way through by one of the forks bending backward upon landing! But that pales in comparison to this video. I felt the instructions were clear and concise, and the editing was studio worthy, as was the costume changes. The parts I found exciting were the points on chain dynamics, gear box to helmet ratio, and steady state theory. What do you want him to do, tell you how to install it??? C'mon!!
As far as I'm concerned, my next stop will be swagging my beast out with rad gear....saddle bags , more decals, then the next stop will be BIKE WEEK, WOOT!! Daytona WOOT, WOOT...BEACH ....WOOT WOOT WOOT!!!!
@@SmokestackLightning3.14 Can I have some of what you're smoking?
@@ravenrock541
The thing about center motors is that they wear out chains sprockets and bearing and rims fast . And the battery's don't last as long as they say which are very expensive !
Respect for the cameraman for running 25mph🔥
He had to if he didnt want to get run over by the lunatic on the ebike.
I don’t know how he recorded that honestly
He may have been using a standard bike.
It looked like a green screen lol
That’s my Wife running backwards while filming, she rocks
0:56 Those are some fancy kickstands you've got there.
Real 🔥🔥🔥
Look like someone got their kickstands kit off Etsy
I did a whole season with the BBS02 in Northern Ontario. It can handle rain sleet and snow like nothing.
The programming cables helps a lot.
I unlocked 9 levels and slow each of them down so my legs don't spin too fast.
You get that when the speed is about 10% less than power level.
Hey there! I just stumbled upon a new project called the freebeat Morph 2-in-1 eBike and it sounds incredible! Not only does it offer a smooth riding experience, but it also has some outstanding features. One feature that caught my attention is the indoor recharge capability, allowing you to charge the bike while using it indoors. That's a game-changer for those rainy or snowy days when you can't go outside. Plus, with its 80mm front suspension and puncture-resistant fat tires, it seems like it can handle any terrain with ease. Can't wait to try it out myself! Keep up the great work, freebeat!
@@StellaHulliet That's some serious culinary fusion
When you add the price of battery and display in there, you're starting to approach the price of a pre-built ebike. Kits seem like a good option if you already have a decent bike frame on hand, though. I wonder if it's practical to DIY a battery pack out of 18650's or another lithium-ion cell to the same specs as the factory battery pack--that'd bring the cost of these kits down dramatically.
Top tip, for mounting the battery use 'rivnuts' as only two bolts to hold the battery isn't enough. I've been running this exact set up for around 7 months with no problems since using extra bolts to hold my battery, which is a 52v version.
Also the gear change sensor is a must. It'll save your chain and all other drive components. I've also put on a 203 front rotor which is very wise as my bike does 59kph on the flat, standard 160 rotors struggle, I've also a 160 fully floating rotor on the rear.
Whys your battery upside down? If you have it on the right way up water won't go into it.
I built so many kits and even switched out kits from one bike to another four or five times so I started using Velcro to hold batteries on any kind of frame and is easy to install and un install. And I have never had a battery come lose or come off. plus no rattle! I buy battery bricks and armor them myself and install a power switch to conversion kit to keep the battery from popping when plugging it to the kit.
Dal Venable could be an idea as the standard method of bolting it onto the water bottle mount has only two bolts, which on an aluminium frame definitely isn't enough.
i seen also a video where they put a velcrostrap around the frame and battery to make sure the battery stays put, i bet u could fit some little pieces of an innertube, to absorb the shocks while driving...:)
@@nudgeA7 Actually I armor my battery then add the stick on 3M Velcro to both the frame and the battery, then add Velcro straps. It becomes part of the bike won't move or rattle. And I can hang a battery pretty much anywhere on the bike that is out of my way.
How much did you pay for the entire kit with all the modifications?
It certainly looks a lot easier to install it than early generation conversion kits with their strap on bags, wires all over the place, warnings not to get the kit wet or rained on. The placement of the mid drive motor & electronics makes this ideal for normal or reverse trikes, recumbent, maybe even some quads or multiple passenger bikes.
I put one of these kits on a 2003 Gary Fischer with disc brakes, upgraded to larger rotors on the front. I'm 61 and in pretty good shape but man this thing allows me to go to places I really couldn't or wouldn't go on a regular bike plus I still get a decent workout (nothing like I would on a regular one for sure) but again, I can go places and for way longer then I would otherwise. Its pretty freaking cool. Sometimes I just like to be out exploring and not so much wanting a killer workout and where I live it gets so hot and humid that a regular bike would just be awful during the hot months.
This is why e-bikes rock
@@Miles26545 agree 100%
I have an old Gary Fischer been in my shed for years from the 90's thinking about converting it to an ebike. Doesn't have disc breaks has old school rim clamp brakes. Not sure it would be worth it or just find a used newer bike that has disc brakes. My state has no limits except for no faster then 28 mph. Only thing they want a manufacture sticker what class it is. I probably could just print up a label from a label maker.
I've got the same mid-drive motor it peaks at 1200w which is 112 Nm of torque and if you get the eggridder V2 display you can Configure the settings from your phone because its Bluetooth I love it I've got full throttle all the time plus I don't need to set up in my laptop all the time it's Instant I could change them when I'm out if I wanted to but now I'm setup I just leave it alone 👍🏾😊
Got an update? I'm looking into getting one.
So you never padel?
I have had the BBSHD at 48 volts on a fat bike for 3 years, love it.
I've been using a 36V 500W conversion kit from BAFANG (looks identical to the one in the video) since Sep 2018 as my preferred daily commuter, they are excellent!!! I used a little frame bag to hide all the spare cabling & connectors so everything looks nice & neat! STRONGLY RECOMMEND!!
What do you mean frame bag
How much was it?
@@lennypen1978 Frame bags, they're little triangular shaped bags that go on the inside of the frame. Usually for storing things. But I;m guessing he's cut a hole out of the bottom of his and stuck it on to hide the battery. Just google bike frame bag, there shouldn't be any shortage of results it's what they're actually called.
@@benpar8120 Range from like 250 to a grand. I'd say most of the ones under 5-600 aren't really worth it. Will be quite a low wattage AKA reduction in power top speed and acceleration and weight capacity. If you do bump tracks, down hil or anything really that requires a bit of a drop in you need to be careful as these things are going to stick right out
@@オールマイト-y1f correct
I've now done three of these and they are easy to install (as long as you get the right bike with the correct crank size) and they are bomb proof and brilliant to use
Wym about crank size ?
@@yourmom2819 The width of the bike's crank needs to be within the limits of what the Bafang can be fitted into
@@MikeKleinsteuber how much does an entire kit cost ? Motor , display , battery ?
@@ride30r2die At the time I did my last one, around 2019, it cost about £450 plus the cost of the bike. I don't know the current amount and have been looking at alternative hub mounted motors. Just for a change and to try them out. They are cheaper but not necessarily as good. Bafang go on forever...
What bike did you used for this install?
So far, this is the best kit I’ve seen so far. Thank you for this video.
You can also get a USB cable to connect your bike to a PC or laptop which means you can program the drive to be more or less responsive
I put one on a used 2009 cannondale downhill bike a few years ago with a 38 tooth front sprocket and its awesome. I have a battery in a backpack and the xt90 plugs under the seat. I used the EGO 56V 5AH battery from home depot. Get an eggrider computer and you can use your phone to change everything.
I also use Ego 56v batteries on my Bafang BBS02 ebike. In addition, I use Greenworks 60v batteries (5aH) but you have to be careful as the system will shutdown for over voltage protection (Error code 07) when anything over 60v is detected. I have over 1200 miles on the ebike as of Dec. 2022 and it still runs like new.
Drivetrain is 3-speed Nexus IGH. Actually, you can do fine with just a single speed sprocket. I wouldn't think you'd ever need more that 5 speeds if you're using an ebike.
@@nathangant7636 Thanks for the info. But the system voltage is 48 v and i guess it is ok to use 56 v battery. do you use just one battery?
You didn't have to reprogram the 48V Bafang motor & controller to run on a 56V battery? How did you connect wires to the EVO battery's terminals ? and was splicing needed to connect those wires into the Bafang motor wires ? With 5 Amps what was your range ? Thanks
Ive had no problem going to 56V I read somewhere that the speed controller is fine with it . Its the AMPs that will blow the controller. I set my max amps to 20 amps with the programmer, i forget but 28amps is actual MAX. so 56x20=1120watts. I have it geared with a 38 tooth Lekki on the front for so many reasons. I 3dprinted a battery holder with aluminum contacts that looks very close to what the EGO charger looks like. You could repurpose an extra charger if you dont have a 3dprinter.
I put a similar mid-drive kit on a 29er Kent Trouvaille. The bike was $350, the kit was about $800. Sold it to a friend for $1,650 & I have regretted ever since, since I don't have the time or patience anymore to build another one. It was my Covid project, if you will. It used to go 25 to 36mph going downhill with slick touring tires. 🤣
1650$…too expensive..you lucky you made money out of your friend..💰💰💰you can buy under 1k for better bike..
@@romavilla7855not at that time
@@romavilla7855 thats not the focus of the comment, its supposed to highlight the fact that even 1650$ was not worth parting with the bike....
I knew I recognized those SE Coastal GA palmettos! We lived in the Glynn County area for about 7 years too! Great video and a great conversion.
I am 40 pounds overweight and out of shape. Took my old Mongoose conversion to the trail over the weekend. Had a 2 hours blast. Mostly Assist Level 1 for climbing. I realize I need better brakes
I am about to buy the same kit. I can't wait! Thanks for this video, it's super motivating!!!
did the kit have everything you needed?
How was it?
These bafang mid drives are absolutely awesome kits
If your bike gets wet, hit it with the leaf blower when you get home to blow off all the water. It does a great job.
I get 38 mph without pedalling on my 1000W mid drive conversion. Awesome performance. I wouldn’t bother with changing over the brake cables or adding a gear sensor next time as I really don’t need gears, the motor having so much torque!
How much did you pay for it?
@@MrAkaprimetime Around £900, including a 21 AH battery.
I'm interested in making my own! If you don't mind, could you tell me what parts you ordered for your custom ebike? That would be super helpful, thanks!
@@michaelinkster4977what's the range like? I'm thinking of buying the same 1000w and a 28ah battery
@@xdave4277 Never really tried the range but I’d guess 30 to 60 miles with my 20ah battery depending upon how much effort you put in.
I bought a cable where I can plug into the software with my phone and use an app I downloaded to change the percentages of power on each pedal assist. So like 5% on 1, 10% on 2 etc. That way you can fine tune each PAS mode to your needs. Going 10 mph on PAS 1 is too fast in my opinion, it should be more like 4 or 5 mph. I also changed out the 46 tooth front gear mine came with to a 32 tooth as it would hit almost 40 MPH at top speed which was nuts, now it only hits 30ish.
You can control your speed with the gear setup. Bigger front chainring highest on the back will give you more speed. Get a good cassette for the rear and you can have good torque fot uphill mountain biking. And if you are going to go 35mph you should get a motorcycle helmet and gear.
I’m obsessed with the idea of converting my bike. This kit seems to be pretty well reviewed and simple to install
I had my friend installed 2 of the 48v 750w on both of my Trek bikes and it was the best thing I have ever had done 3 years ago and still no issues or problems with this setup... two thumbs up 👍 👍
@@martintammo72 can I ask which trek bikes you had? I have a brand new trek I’d like to convert to an EBike but I have no clue where to start.
I kind of like this one where you have to replace the whole crank plus my three front gears on my mountain bike are useless cuz they don't switch out of the second gear
Same question. I have a Trek 4900 mountain bike. How would I know if would fit? Do you have to take it apart a measure bore on crank? Thanks in advance!
I got one a year ago and it's boss. You definitely gotta get the software that makes the throttle response smooth; otherwise it's either on or off.
Other motor controllers like the Phaserunner / Baserunner are much more flexible in programming your own personal throttle response for you.
Bought one during summer and love it.
Nice
How long does it take to drive
Mid drive is great as you get the advantage of gears, but i feel like it will increase likelihood of bad shifting while going uphill. I live in wales with very steep hills, so I think a 1000W for a 120kg guy would be a better option. Perhaps a 1000Kw on the back wheel and 300 W on the front wheel. More hill climbing power and 2 wheel drive for offroading in sand and snow.
I went with a hub drive because I'm new to e bikes and figured I would destroy the chain with poorly timed shifts on hills. Once I get some miles under my belt I'll probably switch to a mid drive. Mids have the advantage of keeping the motor in the sweet spot but for beginners hubs are more forgiving.
@@biffmalibu3733 I think a Gear sensor will help with that problem.
so with this type of conversion it powers the crank so that you can use the gears? This is what I want. I weigh approx 77kg.
Actually, the BBS02-750 has 120Nm of torque - not just 100nm as you stated. To quote their website:
"Powerful, fast, and quiet Bafang BBS02B street-legal mid-drive motor. This motor is rated at 750 watts but puts out a 1470 watts peak when asked and does it more quietly than any e-bike on the market. With 120 Nm of torque, it has 50% more torque and 100% more power than the motors currently sold in factory e-bikes."
I dig your oh natural kick stands.
I’ve had my 750 watt Bafang conversation for 2 years now. I weigh around 190lb the 750 watt has no trouble going up hills in mid gears best to use the lowest gear.
Anyway it’s a great design…
Whats your range like?
@@zao.224 with a 17.5ah battery 48 volts I get easy 40 miles on highest power setting in peddle assist mode.
@@anthonyiocca5683 that seems pretty good. Thanks!
@@zao.224 it is really great in my opinion. A lead acid battery would go maybe 2 miles.
I measured the electricity going into the charger and it takes less than 1 one kilowatt to charge these lithium ion batteries. Here 1 kilowatt is about .12 cents. That is better than 4 miles to the penny.
You convinced me. I need to find this motor now
That thing is huge! The CYC Photon looks nice and discrete
Thanks for the in-depth review content creator. Lol hugs man don’t mind the haters!😂
Yea Ive got a BBSD with 48volt pack. With a basic 7 speed cassette big gear of 34tooth and 42 front sprocket l can climb crazy uphill.
I just love these moped videos!
I used to have a moped when I was young. My moped ran on gasoline.😂
i would get gas too if it wasn't for california's dumb laws :(
Once I am not able to commute on muscle power anymore, I'll definitely consider converting my bike. But that'll most likely take a loooong time, so luckily not doing it yet.
Currently here in Manila the same specs will cost you around $1,000. With free installation .
Not bad
Nice kickstand! 😉
THIS is what I've been waiting for! :D
Great build. Someone had asked about the rock gardens, and that is the biggest problem with a bafang is the lower ground clearance. I found it interesting that you said it would fit in the triangle, not sure the bafang would fit there, That would be interesting if it would, and deal with the battery afterwards. Great build, love my marlin 7 with a BBS02.
Lol if anything the motor will protect the chain and chainring. The motor is solid. Well at least the 1000w. 750w Looks like a toy. I have yet to hit it on a rock so I'm just talking out my ... until then.
@Rad Ham Don't think the Trek has room there. For bikes that do that would be the best spot for it.
@@Eric_Tennant Nah, The lower clearance in many a scenarios would have me off the bike or bugger the full thing up or both.
Nice nature made kick stand you got there! 😜
You know it son,
I recognize that foliage and shrubbery definitely Florida
This will be good for my long distance riding plan, especially to climb up hill and ascending road
Bafang BBS02B street legal mid-drive motor is rated at 750 watts but puts out 1470 watts peak With 120 nm of torque not 100 nm. 🤪
Damn you know better than Bafang good job bro
lol, love the stick kick-stand xD
Good idea, definatley be better for road and flat trails, anything more than that and its going to get battered by everything. Just like your frame does. Sounds like it will pull nicely though!
I have a Scott Scale, put a BBSHD w/905wh battery use it for commuting and trails:)😄
I’m definitely getting one! I’m going for the thousand watt!
Sheesh, make sure to get a thicker chain, 1000w is pretty powerful;)
1000watt will chew through your chain and cassette real quick...believe me I know. So be prepared for the added cost of drivetrain components that need to be replaced if you go the 1000watt route. 750watt although is quite powerful with 120nm, doesn't punish your drivetrain nearly as much as the 1000watt.
At a 1000 watt it would be better to use a planetary geared rear hub motor and it will not eat your chain and are lighter than the 1000 watt direct drive systems but it really depends on how you plan on using the bike. I live in the city so hub units are great but if you plan on making a off road riding bike mid drives are the bomb but trust everyone here 750 good nuff! I believe that equates to 2 hp
A thousand watt mid drive is going eat up parts quicker than usual.
@@dalvenable331 there is many problems with rear hubs, need additional controller+ they are ugly and they are worse at uphills that mid drives and also you can mod bbshd to 3000 watts if you want to.
i love the stick kickstands
Wow! sabi ko na, parang pinoy to hehe :)
The new display looks cool
Make sure you check dimensions though. I bought one for a 7 speed trike. The sprocket sits in further on a trike, so it only worked for gear 7, anything lower and it would throw the chain
You can buy aftermarket sprockets and spacers if it doesn't fit properly, I think Lekkie Chainrings sells some
The parts are relatively cheap,, Its a good battery thats expensive. There is cheaper solutions then one here. I'm looking to convert my rat rod cruiser. Thanks for the video
Mabuhay filipino ingat Jan palagi bro.
50 kmph is just impressive
Absolutely love the love stand. That’s awesome lol
Thanks for the vid. I'm disappointed that the BB shaft is a square tapered design. Ditching your modern cranks and downgrading makes no sense. Another concern is the cheap chainring. The chain will drop as soon as you hit a bump or even when back pedaling, so right from the start, one needs to replace it with a narrow wide aftermarket ring.
The Bafang 750 watt produces a maximum of 120 Newton Meters of toque.
1kw BBSHD with 42t leccie sprocket on a 9spd Reid urban x2 with 48v 20ah li-ion.
Does the battery come with this kit for 400 dollars or do you have to buy it separately
The battery is an additional 400 ish depending on which one you get
Purchased a mid level mountain bike and 80 cc gas motor for a hundred bucks less than the cost of just the ebike battery.
He said it looks very slick and then had the sticks holding it up 😂
0:42 Is that a custom made kickstand?
No. It's a customer service thing from the track authorities. They leave them around for people who don't have fixed stands 😉😉
Amazing Motor ! Greenergy Store is my No.1 Choice to buy bafang motor
Nice upgrade kabayan. :)
Thanks
“All I have to do is remove my old bottom bracket” 😂
I wanna put one of these in a omafiet! Ultimate comfort commuter sleeper!
Nice Thank You for posting 💯💫👍
II must have missed the part on the estimated range of this mid drive motor. What is the estimated range ?
It depends on how much pedal power you add, how level the road is and how fast you go.
I've got a similar setup, I get over 35 miles on a charge, (on the road). I think you could get away with a smaller battery offroad, if you don't need all that range.
Are you using the factory settings with it? Or did you reprogram it? Change the settings and that thing will really wake up.
“Wish there was Filipino here!” Yeah.
Too many of us speak English to accommodate those of us that don’t. Actually here in the states I haven’t met a Filipino that doesn’t speak English.
Ale je tam čestina(whatever is that) 🤡😂 Ty šašo
me im a filipino and using bike to work
ako boss pinoy ako
Dito
Aww man that thing looks fun.
I'm saving up for the HD version kit I plan to use it for Door dashing I want to motor most of the time with two spare batteries so I can swap and make a 8 hour shift
Get a 30Amp.H Triangular Battery (Sits in Middle of Frame)
@@James_T_Quirk I will check it out I think I will diy and build my own packs
@@ronaldharris6569 Always Best, These bigger batteries are useful, but on Streets, too heavy for the Rough & "Jumps", or so I think .. ..
its the best, luna cycle and other places, rebuilds at home, all parts u need. Huge new building in europe. Luna has jailbroke bafangs and share firmware.
Nice.. whats the usual range you are getting on single charge?
What about brakes? Electric brakes?
How were you mounting it - if you have made video of mounting process, please post the link. Warm greetings. Michael, central Poland.
Hi Michael , I installed a BBSHD 1000 watts on my mountain bike , go to cyber bikes on you tube , it's a shop in Australia where the tech Fillippe as great video's on install. Install is simple just make sure that the chainring does not touch the motor when you install it. Get some small spacers to obtain a perfect chain line. You'll also need to contend with the motor brackets loosening which can be fixed with clamps to secure the motor to bike frame. Get one it's totally worth it you'll be amazed on performance especially the BBSHD 1000 watt.
Could this be installed on a trike?
Luv the upside down battery!
Yeah, the battery is too big and wont fit if installed correctly, gotta be smarter than the system
@@MCMTB It will fit the correct way round just drill a hole and use rivnuts/ Its very straight forward and no need for velcro straps.
Excellent! Thanks for sharing.
My e-bike rear hub motor is literallly just a 7km bike lmao. To the other side of town and MAYBE back if I’m lucky. I’d need to charge in between to keep it topped up.
Nice editing! friendly tip, your saddle nose ideally will be slightly tipped down, just a smidge for comfort and efficieny, happy trails!
Yeah it is good editing. Unfortunately it was a green screen for the trail. If notice the water and mud he rode through had no splash at all, and the little bit of foliage he rode on didn't move. Plus a shadow under the tire as he is riding. Still going to research the motor though.
Id love to see a full range test on this!
I've put the smaller BBS01 onto an old hardtail, and get a solid 60km out of a 36v 13A/hr battery.
It makes commuting fun, every day is a tail wind.
I can get 420 miles in eco mode with a BBSHD and a 48v 20ah battery. This version on the video is the toy version of Bafang.
@@Eric_Tennant 420 miles, wow!
42 miles would be very close to what I get with the smaller motor and battery.
@@petercroft9895 my eco mode (1) uses 24-50 watts is why. I have to do 9/10 the work to get this range on flat. The other eco mode is unlimited range mode (0) but that just a heavy bike. I can't wait to tour on it. I need the power for some bad mountain roads here in the 1/2 waste land of Arizona.
@@Eric_Tennant Fair enough, I guess I'd get the same sort of range if I ran mine like that, but it would really only be making up for its own weight. Commuting, I just dial it up all the way.
Dude where are you located at this looks a lot like a local park here in southern ga /fla crooked river/amelia island
You know exactly where it is lol you mentioned it
You should put instructional video on How to connect on everything..!
Hey does yours work on the larger cogs? On mine the chain will ride on top of the teeth and slide off the bike if the lower gears are used. It works fine in high gears (low cog) but the slightest angle in the chainline causes it to come off
Great review. What range can you get on a charge?
4:31 that is not peddle assist, peddle assist goes on when you PEDDLE
you made a electic bike you can drive on with out peddeling, that will get you a 290 euro fine in my country!
How do your tires not pop? Mine popped the first time I used my ebike kit but I’m assuming I didn’t pump it enough? I had a hand pump and not a gauge so I didn’t know the psi
Great read. I'm wondering if you can add this motor to a ebike with a rear hub motor, as opposed to adding a front hub motor. Too weird?
You could but I'm not sure why you would? IMHO this is better than a hub motor.
If you want a front hub motor, the All-axle is a good choice.
@Sam Miller I'll look into that, thanks.
I had a similar 250W motor installed on my old mountainbike and it still works but there were no shifting or braking sensors available and this the drive train receives an unhealthy amount of wear and tear from the 90nm motor.
I've since switched to a hub drive ebike which I think will likely be easier to maintain but at only 700 miles in I don't know that yet.
So what was your total cost and why doesn't the promo code work for Canadians?
Because Canada sucks!!!!
Nice conversion! 😊
Ebikes are filling happiness in people's life. Even pedal assist e bikes. Long live e cycles!
Indeed
Is there ability to get some ignition system? So that strangers can't start the motor. Similar to escooters? Like a key or a knob.
What about chain and brake upgrades to deal with torque and speed?
I’m sorry but it’s not clear to me which battery you used. The link takes me to only a no battery setup. If I were to buy the battery separately, which battery specs do I need for it to work?
does the battery come with the motor ? what battery are you using?
Buy a Bosch mid-drive, it’ll be a wise choice for sure 🤔🥸
just a tad more expensive, and surely u gonna need a bosch battery too, making it more expensive too, this bafang isjust an affordable solution when u need some assist on ur bike
GREAT VIDEO! My question is can you use the motor assist for walking speeds, like 1 to 2 mph? Or is level one automatically 9 to 10mph? I am converting a wheel chair that is built for trail use and made from mountain bike parts but needs to go walking speeds.
What?? Lol
Hello, did you manage to do that? I am also interested to build EV wheelchair, have you researched already?