Which mid-drive Bafang motor to buy? (BBS01, BBS02, BBSHD)
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- Опубліковано 23 лис 2024
- I discuss the pros and cons with the different bafang motor mid-drives (bbs01, bbs02 and bbshd) to help you choose the right motor to buy!
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I run a BBS02 500 watt mid drive with dual 36v 20AHr batteries. It has a maximum wattage rating of 750 watts, but have regularly seen 850 watt display readings. It’s mounted on a 29” dual suspension, 34t Shimano freewheel. I live in the US in an Appalachian Mountain state, so there are many hills. Bike is mostly used on street and rail-trails. It’s fun with dual battery DateX2 combiner setup. Really helps with lessen voltage sag on hills and in headwinds. I ride about 30-40 miles daily. I have to give minimum assistance when climbing most hills in PAS 4. It’s fun. I know I said that. But it really is all I feel the need for at the moment.🙂
I've been putting BBS02's on DH mountain bikes since 2015 to build as trail bikes. I've found 750W to be sufficient. I typically run a 36t "narrow-wide" chain ring w/ 10spd cassette and Shimano clutch derailleur. I definitely recommend Bafang products. Mid-drive is where it's at for bikes with rear suspension. I wouldn't put the weight of a hub motor on a "swingarm" but Bafang hub motors are great too. 👌
yeah 750w is mega powerful too
Would it be more power efficient to equip the 250w motor with the biggest battery size with the highest voltage?
Definetly will build a bbshd on my next full suspension bike, geared hub, on a 52v system.
sounds very nice!!!
Ull love it i used it for like 3-4 years now.
But its limited to 27 km/h
I love it
Nice I just finished up a dual battery with a BBSO2 kind of heavy now with 48v-10.4 ah & 48v-20 ah "dual combiner 24v-72v" on a Trek 4500 26" My first run drove 16 mile with one giant hill the motor got very hot to touch! I thought it was damage but I dropped to a higher gear. But no more battery anxiety.
definitely the new torque sensing M435 possibly the M635.
tuning requires the BESST tool though, but boy are these motors a game changer once the torque sensor is properly tuned
My advice is to get the smallest motor the 300 Watt motor with the biggest battery. Less wear on a bikes drive train. I commute thirty foor miles a day on a Giant Quick E with a 250 Watt motor. I can cruise along at 41 to 43 kilometres per hour. You drain battery cycles less as well.
depends on how much oomf you want :)))
Makes sense. I like to pedal too.
im using a 52v with a BBS02, and its more powerful than 48v
48v does me. i worry about 52v getting too hot and damaging the controller/motor. 48v already get very hot at the end of a ride
@@SpicyMushroom469 you can control the power via the usb tool. its actually a must to lower it! feels way more natural and saves components
My 02 is running on 52 volts, out of the box.
My HD also runs on 52 volts but with an aftermarket controller runs 50 amps (more about towing torque than top speed). I don't get bothered because I don't ride it like a goon. If you're not behaving like an idiot the police have more important concerns.
My motors have similar cabling.
Blablabla... my bbs02b works perfectly with a Samsung 1040wAh 52v 20A battery pack ! Controller is compatible but you must choose the right display 52v compatible.
The bbs02 info says its not 52v compatible BUT all the guys who work on them say it is,ie johnnynerdout
It's not officialy compatible but works. Voltage limit of internal capacitors is 60V.
@@Hadroncollider_Ive got one and works fine
Isnt it possible to buy certain versions from aliexpress that are 52v?? But isnt it not official?
Bbs02 is 52v compatible but you need to lower the amp with PC if you want to use with high gearing because you can fry that controller easily with that overvolting
I'm a big heavy guy who has a big heavy dual susp. bike. It took about 30 seconds for me to spec the HD with a big batt. Torque sensing is a nice luxury, but not essential.
yeah true, depends a lot on how you want the riding experience to feel, some people even prefer cadence sensors.
You are obviously a Bafang motor fan, but what are your thoughts on the Anando motors? Thanks 😊
thanks for the info my daughter has the bbs 01 with 48v battery on her bike and she loves it .i have a full suspension with a bbshd ill be finishi g very soon .i think it will be the right bike for me .i have a 1500w hub kit on a voodoo canzo ,which is pretty fast on the flat (40mph)but lacks a little uphill .a stealth bomber clone that is 72v 80 smp and is a bit heavy and faster than needed ,also attracts too much attention. and a 72v 60 amp hub motor setup on a specialised hardtail which im building atm too .bad idea i think its going to be rediculous .
I can't wait to get the bbshd with the biggest battery. i will make a commuter .
nice! what battery size?
@@voltvehicles I ended up getting this battery: Battery - 48V 20.3 Ah Whale Shark Ebike Battery (2900 18650 Cells). I know there is bigger but the built up bike is pretty powerful now.
What's the biggest most powerful battery you can put on the 250w motor to get the longest most efficient trip everyday, and keep the battery healthy for many years?
thank you
because that what i search on youtube : Best bafang 250 KIT
yeah 250w 48v bbs01 is really good for 250w
I live in the US. My son is a cop. The police here will never mess with you on an ebike unless you are causing problems.
hahaha xDDD
That is total nonsense.
different for different areas .im in the uk and i ride pretty fast 40mph on my 1500w kit at 52v 26 amps .but ibarely ride my stealth bomber 5000w as its asking for hassle .it seems some bikes like stealth bombers and surrons etc are targeted .because the riders are usually pulling wheelies and ride like nutcases .like you said .
Driving while black is a myth then?
yes@@legalalien2923
Can l still use my existing crank arms ? as l want keep them, they are Hope and very beautiful
BBSHD 1400 watt ! if you want torque power speed ! Mine does 61 clicks 48 volt running 54.6 battery and a 58.8 battery ! 30 amp controller 8 speed ! throttle and pedal sensor dual suspension ! MID DRIVE ONLY ! Thank you ! BBSHD all day !
Australia allowed ! 48 volt running with 54.6 and 52v ,58.8 battery straight on no problems ! The others are pissy slow and not strong ! New one cant program ! Bought 2 old ones the best for diy use and POWER SPEED ! Lekie all ! Its messy if you have 2 left hands ! Or you can't do the job ! In that case shop and get ripped off ! Thank you !
Bbshd rocks man 🤙
BBSHD!!! NOW SOON TONGSHENG TSDZ2ABCD
@@voltvehiclesIs that true?😮
Is it true these motors does not work with a rear hub brake?
A BBSHD with reduced wattage about 250-300W and street legal 25 Km/h should last longest of the 3 right?
i would think so. Limiting is no fun though. i have 750w bbs02 with 6400 miles on it over the last 14 months. i ride 12 miles each way to work every day at max assist (30+mph and its still going strong)
BBS01 - the best choice for daily city driving (+ legal in every country)
yeah its an awesome motor :)
The Bafang rear hub 750 so you can easily do service by your self !!!
do you have it? is it good?
What bike do you have that has an internal gear box? I would like to get an internally geared bike and convert it to an ebike.
Spot Acme (made in Golden, Colorado)
Why is it so difficult to get the prices of these motors?!
What do you mean?
Bbshd 1to1 works great
yeah that thing is a beast, do you mean with single speed?
Got mine set up on a single free wheel get about 41 mph running 30 amps across the board
Здравствуйте скажите пожалуйста кто нибудь знает про хороший смазку для мотот BBS hd ,
Do Bafang motors really affect the right side crank (chainring side) by leaving it one inch farther once the motor is installed?
I saw a review of a welder who fitted the 750w kit, and that's what he said. It was giving him hip pain when riding the bike since the crank on the right side was too far to the right.
It comes with spacers. Your friend should have used the spacers to align his chainring and avoid the hip pain.
My bbshd was ordered specifically for my bottom bracket size and it is centered well with no spacers.
It's the reason so many conversions use Leki chainrings and asymmetric crank arms.
hmm, for a bottom bracket of 68mm and 72mm I have never had issues, but as Luke says, spacers could be required with big bottom bracket sizes
leki is too overpriced bro XD
Bosch Motors swell up my knees, never had any problem in my life ... installed a bafang, Knee problems completely gone.
None of these are torque-sensing, are they?
no, all are cadence sensing (like on-off switch)
@@voltvehicles thank you
Interesting, do I detect a Southeast Asian accent tinted with a bit of Welsh?
No
@@MetalFan10101 Ok, thanks for the thought-provoking interaction.
@@MetalFan10101 and jagshemash.
???????????? You need hearing lessons
@@voltvehicles Ok, I guess that's a no...thank you for your constructive and respectful interaction as well. Just thought your speech patterns sounded interesting and took a guess.
You play eve???
Yee 😀
Nobody in the US knows or gives a fuck how many watts your ebike motor is.
Really? Thats very cool, I might move there LOLOLOL
Some bodies had a bad day ,sounds like they got watt restrictions in America!
How come you only have 1tits? What happened to the other one?