My brother Christmas is pagan by nature, is not what you do on Christmas that makes it pagan,is like saying that what we do on the sabbath makes it Holy? it is Holy because it is Holy no matter what you do. Jeremiah 10:1-5 Isaiah 66:16,17 and in the book of Deuteronomy God admonished Isreal not to go in the ways of the heathens, Christmas is not about Jesus
@@robertbaker231 brother I totally agree with you, that’s why I don’t celebrate Christmas and I don’t think any Adventist should celebrate Christmas either. If we look at it, December 25 is not Jesus birthday, so it’s a lie and all lies comes from Satan
I think that you completely missed the point what EGW has said. She never justified idolatry in the church. God is not honored by observing Christmas, Satan is. God is not honored by Christmas songs in the church such as "holy night" for there is no holy night. God is not honored by displaying angels on the tree or nativity scene. You are twisting her words even by your ignorance. Besides who brought the Christmas if not the some man of sin that brought spurious Sabbath. Who we honored then? You guys just cannot stay away from it. Man truly loves sin.
As an Adventist, you should follow the Bible and the Bible alone. The pastor and Allen White is human and followimg Pagan holidays. Look at what the Bible says only. Everybody watching this video was probably hoping gor this answer from Allen White, to continue in good concience with this Pagan holiday. It is evil, just like halloween. If they say it is kept for the right reason, then surely the people celebrating halloween and keeping it as Hallowed be They name day, is keeping it for the "right" reason? You simply can not take a pagan day and make it "right" !! It is the worship of the sun and you can not take Jesus in the face and make it His birthday.
It truly amazes me how: 1). Adventist Christians can watch this video prayerfully and yet still not get the point Sis White was making. 2). How Adventists cannot interact on a post without getting into a word fight. Adventists are suppose to be Gods Remnant, proclaiming the love of God to the world, dharing and teaching the 3 Angels Messages yet are the strongest denomination to fight and bicker points and truth. 3). Do not get the fact that if we cannot disagree without heated exchanges how can the world take our message serious. On every post i see by Adventists there is ALWAYS a verbal fight that breaks out that results in sarcastic word exchanges. 4). We know Christmas is pagan, we know Christ was not born on Dec 25th, but because most of the world is not “converted” to that truth, USE THIS TIME OF YEAR TO PREACH AND TEACH THE TRUTH ABOUT CHRIST. We do not have to put up trees or symbols, just use the joy of the season as a soul winning opportunity to teach someone about it, about the true meaning of the Birth, life, ministry, suffering and death of Christ. TEACH OTHERS PLZ AND STOP ARGUING OVER IT MY FRIENDS. God allows me to get into plenty more of witnessing conversations around this time of year. Give out books and tracts. Give Bible studies. People are more receptive around this time of year than any other time. Time is too short to waste bickering on what we already know as Adventists, start a witnessing ministry and be a Christ serving, Bretheren Loving Witness!!!
When attempting to share truth on this topic, it is difficult to prevent an argument from others. Even your message, as well intended as it is, can sound a bit chastising and argumentative. On a site like this, people are going to be forthright and say exactly what they think. It’s just part of the venue. The only way to prevent argument is to shut down comments. We either agree with something or we don’t. Perhaps we can still learn some from each other.
Thank you for your message,very interesting.this is was always my belief on xmas every year.actually im a seventh day adventist christian and I have this book of Ellen G White.I also have a good respect for her writtings..God bless you and family brother.
John 15:19 NKJV "If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you." Christmas is from the world
Xmas is a pagan holiday but all Christians set aside their beliefs to celebrate a pagan holiday. So sad only a few people understand . People are focus on extravagant , parties, food, gift etc . There is no Christ in Christmas. It is a worldly holiday and almost all the world enjoy it.
Birthdays are pagan, the names of the days of the week are pagan and the pagans use the sun as their symbol of worship, are you going to hide from it? People give to much credit to satan where they are fearful even enjoy a day of recognition of Christs birth. You dont have to have it on the 25th or at all if you dont agree with it but dont judge other peoples personal walk with God who choose to celebrate it with family and friends. God knows each heart and will do the judging. People are becoming finatical and need to ask God to help them be balanced in their beliefs and not go overboard in one area and totally lack in another.
If the whole world participates in something, that already should get you thinking... 1 John 2:15-17 NKJV "Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world-the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life-is not of the Father but is of the world. And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever."
I don't celebrate xmas, i stopped years before becoming a Seventh Day Adventist, i give gifts to people in my life throughout the year, it doesn't interfere with my salvation if someone else is celebrating it, we will know in the future if Christ wanted us to celebrate it, i know its true history and that's why i stopped, my son was 10 years old when i stopped it, i explained it to him and i didn't stop him from spending the time with his grandparents. ❤
2 Corinthians 6:14-18 NKJV "Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will dwell in them And walk among them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people." Therefore "Come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you." "I will be a Father to you, And you shall be My sons and daughters, Says the LORD Almighty." I hear her advise.... But the problem we face is one out of a million families will dedicate the day to Christ. Everyone else will have a Christmas tree and gifts sharing and have a day of Amusement... It's better to not participate in things that are not of God..... Christmas has got NOTHING to do with Jesus..... Psalm 77:13 KJVS "Thy way, O God, is in the sanctuary: who is so great a God as our God?" Where is the Christmas tree in God's Sanctuary?
Thank you 😊 I struggle with this holiday because it is Pagan. I grew up celebrating Christmas, but when I read in the book of Jeremiah chapter 10 I began to question Christmas. I haven’t celebrated for 9 years now. I thank you for sharing here what the Spirit of Prophecy has to say about it. I tend to make it just like any other day. It is hard to do when everyone around us is celebrating it. I do return to those who say to me Merry Christmas or happy holidays, the same greeting joyfully! Giving out The Great Controversy around the church this year was quite rewarding! Sang with a church Christmas Carols about Jesus and in the past with our church we’ve packaged blankets and socks for the homeless. I do have to say to that I enjoy the Christmas lights at night as I need to take my dogs out at night, it gives me more light. 😆 God is good for sending me this message. Thank you for making it! 😊
I am a Sabbath keeper, NOT a SDA, even though I was long ago, until God (2Tim.2:9) called me out of that confusion and into His church (Eph.4:4-5, 5:27). Anyway when people say Merry Xmas or New Year's to me, I reply back by saying I don't believe in it because it honors another god or it honors Janus the god of gates. To me, some get intrigued and want more answers, so I send them to Tomorrow's World. Out of the people I send, several people have liked the site. Maybe you should try and look at it yourself, you would find more truths in God's Word.
When people say Merry Christmas to me, or Happy New Year, I usually reply back by saying I don't believe in them because it honors another god, or honors Janus the god of gates. I usually send these people to the Tomorrow's World site.
Hmmm, brother, God bless you. Truly ive longed for this interpretation or teaching on this christmas. Ive not fully been able to explained better. Always im hooked, i have a bridge somewhere in my explanations which brings about me stopping on the way. I always love to hear such well digested explainations n i grab it andni can tell someone out there. Ah brother, thank you. Truly im always bold to tell or speak when ive learnt and understand God's Word. Thank you ooooh im so happy for this. God bless you all brethrens for d God giving knowledge which you impart to others like me. Im happy.
It seems to me that many SDAs use Ellen White’s words to excuse elaborate decorations, etc. in their churches and homes. Something seems very compromising about it. The story of the golden calf leads me to think that God does not smile upon our participation. I’m sure it is good to show kindness and to give toward God’s work on all days, but I believe that it is a slippery slope on December 25th and can easily become very mixed up with the world. I agree with another commenter that showing Santa while justifying the decorations is worthy of question. Even the word Christmas is bothersome as it is a Catholic word. I no longer use it myself in referring to the holiday. Just my thoughts.
Not everything Catholic is evil. There are some things that are not Catholic but very occult. Remember Catholic also use the word Jesus.... should we stop calling on Jesus as well?
@@voiceofhopemedia I appreciate your reply. You’re right that not all Catholic words are evil. However, Protestantism doesn’t accept the Catholic mass…but many do accept Christmas which means ‘Christ’s mass.’ That seems conflicting to me.
@@markphelps9218 I appreciate your reply. I tend to believe that EW’s writings are inspired by God but that her words can be somewhat distorted in order to justify certain things. However, I continue to search for truth and certainly don’t have all the answers.
Ellen White or not, I don't understand why we say to people that Sunday is the mark of the Beast but that we can celebrate christmas. There is no difference between christmas and Sunday they have the same origin. God bless!
Well I am a SDA and believe in the spirit of prophesy. I celebrate Christmas but it’s not a big deal for me. It’s just my way of having fun and spending time with family and giving back to the community which I do all the time but Christmas bring special meaning. Many holidays are Paganism and other things also such as celebrating birthday, Valentine’s Day, Easter etc. Just because you celebrate the day does not mean that you are going to Hell. I don’t consumed by these days, I always give God thanks. Some people are just so heavenly minded that they are no earthly good.
"GOD DOES NOT OWN THE PLEASURE SEEKER AS HIS FOLLOWER. Those only who are self-denying and who live lives of sobriety, humility, and holiness are true followers of Jesus. And such cannot enjoy the frivolous, empty conversation of the lover of the world." (Adventist Home, pg 525)
Come out from among them and be ye separate saith the Lord. CHRIST MASS. How much more pagan and Babylonish can it be. You sir, will be judged by your words and YOUR DEEDS. It is in direct contradiction of the Ten Commandments as well.
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Let each letter of each Word sink deep in your ears, prophesy unto us smooth things they said. Sad world we are living in. This man gave every reason to sin. christmas is not special, we do good all our lives as Christians don't wait till one pagan day. Who has ears to hear let him hear. To, the lost world.
He discussed e g while terms....he didn't say to celebrate it or not .. if its your conviction not too...don't.... leave everyone to their own decisions ...... it's Christ Job to convict and convince not yours
I like the explanation especially when he said, on this day we can share Love and share gifts including food to those who are worse less fortunate than the most of us if not all. That's really fascinates me a great deal.
Love and gifts can be shared everyday. If you gonna wait for that false heathen day to come to share love, it means you didn't fan the love for the whole year, that's why scriptures says love of many shall wax cold. Anyway, the Bible is instruction for the Saints, it depends what you are.
Look at EGW Video about Christmas. She says: Yes it is not the day Jesus was born. But we do not have to ignore it. It can be a joyous day showing Christs love by providing a meal for aged, visiting sick, and lonely. If day stays Christ centered as every day of our lives we can give gifts of love. Books food visits. And celebrate His love not His "birth"
2 Corinthians 11:4 NKJV "For if he who comes preaches ANOTHER JESUS whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a DIFFERENT GOSPEL which you have not accepted-you may well put up with it!"
December 25 is the day the pagans celebrated the sun God, Cannot believe that the SDA are taking part in anything relating to this pagan worshipped. I was raised as a Christians and love Christmas, but as i began to read the Bible i became uncomfortably with the celebration of Christmas and other so-called Christian celebration, which has nothing to do with true followers of our creator. Jesus warned against following the traditions of men, rador then of God. choose this day who you will served, the God of the Bible or the god of this world.
Amen my brother, it's just an holiday the Sabbath is the most sacred day days of the week , God is the one who sanctified it, bless it and make it Holy day .
Never have and never will celebrate Christmas I always thought it was pagan. Now I get a better and clearer understanding I will share with my relatives. My children are grown and there is one grannd child and it remains the same thank God. Thank you gor sharing
On ur 4th point u mention its not directed to idol worship...seem to me u did no research at all...its got everything to do would idol worship...it come from paganism...
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but having itching ears, they shall heap to themselves teachers in accordance with their own lusts. 1 Tim. 4:3
Understand that Adventist Home chapter 77 is prefaced by Adventist Home chapter 76, particularly the very first paragraph. That is the context you are missing when trying to understand what she is saying about Christmas.
Christmas is purely pagan. The days of ignorance God winkles, Ellen White on that subject never said that it's a direct revelation from God, she just gave Council according to the light that was there during her days. Have u read in her statement that it was a pagan holiday? So she is the one telling u to consider time and place, so that was time of ignorance. We have a clear light about Christmas.
@narrowwaytolife4525 We are Celebrating Jesus is born. He's Alive and He has redeem sinful humanity. It's about Christ. Well for me. Can't speak for others.
I celebrate the fact that Jesus has come to saved man kind. I am not celebrate like the world did., but I like the dates off to spend time with family and friends.
Compromise is what she's asking. This is where the greater light has to outshine the lesser light. Jeremiah 10 says to have NO part in what the heathens are doing. Everything she's suggesting to do in this day should be done be us everyday. This is so sad. Christmas is all about the worship of another God. They added Jesus to this Pagan worship to entice the Pagan worshippers to accept Christianity. It's an insult to Jesus!! Again so sad that we want to mix it. 😢
So birthdays are not acceptable iether? You cant say the names of days of the week or the months as they are all pagan names. Paganism is everywhere. Too many people get all worked up over christmas with a holier than thou attitude but will accept other pagan ideas that have been passed down to our day. Pagan sun worship is what we realy need to be aware of as this is part of Gods command to keep holy the 7th day. Christmas is what you make it and not nesesarily about worshipping another God. Christs birth was a glorious event historically and because God has hidden the date unfortunately the 25 of Dec. was chosen. We know this to be the supposed birthdate of all the pagangods but we know they are nothing and that the God of heaven is the onlytrue God.
She is NOT saying compromise!!! Geez!! She's talking about PREACHING!! Same with Sunday. When the Sunday law sweeps across the world, God told her we should PREACH the truth!! Take advantage of the falsely chosen day to PREACH the truth man! Why is that so hard to understand?! A lot of secular people are open to hearing about religious topics on Christmas. So..... give them a Desire of Ages!! Or a Great Controversy!! Instead of sitting on your behind complaining that Christmas is a false day. Share the truth instead. Share a book. Be opportunistic. It could save someone.
She never said accept it. She said use the falsely chosen day to preach and share the actual truth! Same with Sunday. When the Sunday law arrives across the world, preach. God showed her, disagreeing doesn't mean hiding in a hole somewhere. It means preaching! Take the opportunity and run with it! :) A lot of secular people are open to religious concepts at Christmas. So..... give them a Desire of Ages! Or a Great Cobtroversy!! Jump at the opportunity while you have it.
We all know that December 25th is not the day of Christ birth. The important thing is that He came, died, and was resurrected. Let's not lose that focus. Christmas is for the merchants and those seeking financial gains.
I'm leaving this right here. Jeremiah 10:1-5 Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
While the world is still celebrating Christmas as Adventists we are given the time to confirm that Christ was born into this world, not the time of his birth. There are many who will respond to the leading of the Holy Spirit during this season.
Just like the way Jesus said that it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath so say I that whether Christmas ' s origin is pagan -- it is right for us to do good on that day. Let's take advantage, we evangelise, period
For our family this Christmas, we celebrate as a family. From worship, feasting to 🎁 exchange. Holiday does not make me holy... Christ did..!!.. shared with the family "Prince of peace" OT; "Peace be on earth" NT; and Blessed are the Peacemakers for they will be called the sons of God. Before our gift exchange, I reminded the family on the greatest "gift" of all, Jesus Christ. On the acceptance of that gift, we based our family gift exchange...... All have a blessed Christmas...
Where is it found? Nowhere. The cutting down of the trees in groves found in the Old Testament was for the purpose of worshiping it. It was a form of nature worship.
Galatians 4:8-10 NKJV "But then, indeed, when you did not know God, you served those which by nature are not gods. But now AFTER you have KNOWN GOD, or rather are known by God, how is it that you TURN AGAIN to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage? You OBSERVE DAYS and months and seasons and years."
Christmas is a symbolic holiday. It is celebrated around the Winter Solstice, the longest night of the year and the transition from days getting shorter to days getting longer, and one week before the New Year. This day we celebrate Christ coming into this world at the darkest time of mankind and bringing new light into this world and starting to renew everything.
Ellen was clear in her response to the question of whether we should celebrate Christmas. She is saying switch the focus to Christ and Glorify God instead of ourself. That's okay. But how did you get it that she said the Christmas tree should be in your home? She clearly stated put it in the church. Why twist what she said to suit us? Church is church home is home. Have a happy season. God is love. Lets show love to each other especially during the time when others see it fit to do so.
Thank you very much for sharing, this refreshed memories of me reading the said book as a young man growing in Christ & I've since then followed in that direction & lead my family like-wise🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
For about 300 years after Jesus was born, no one celebrated his birth. Why not? Because the Jews and early Christians believed that birthday celebrations were a pagan custom forbidden by God. The Jewish historian Josephus, who was born a few years after Jesus died, wrote, “the law does not permit us to make festivals at the births of our children” (Against Apion, 2.26). He was probably referring to Leviticus 18:3-4, which says: “According to the doings of the land of Egypt, where you dwelt, you shall not do; and according to the doings of the land of Canaan, where I am bringing you, you shall not do; nor shall you walk in their ordinances. You shall observe My judgments and keep My ordinances, to walk in them: I am the Lord your God.” (NKJV) Since the Jews did not celebrate birthdays, people didn't hold a birthday celebration when Jesus was born. If you read the Bible carefully, you will see that the wise men who came and gave gifts to Jesus did not arrive until many months after Jesus was born. They gave gifts to Him as a king, not to celebrate His birth. More than 200 years after Christ died, Christians still avoided birthday celebrations. For example, the theologian Origen wrote this about birthdays: “not one from all the saints is found to have celebrated a festive day or a great feast on the day of his birth. No one is found to have had joy on the day of the birth of his son or daughter. Only sinners rejoice over this kind of birthday. For indeed we find in the Old Testament Pharaoh, king of Egypt, celebrating the day of his birth with a festival, and in the New Testament, Herod. However, both of them stained the festival of his birth by shedding human blood. For the Pharaoh killed ‘the chief baker,’ Herod, the holy prophet John ‘in prison.’ But the saints not only do not celebrate a festival on their birthdays, but, filled with the Holy Spirit, they curse that day.” (Homily 8 on Leviticus, 3.2). But as Christianity grew and became the religion of the Roman empire, things changed. Many Romans celebrated the birth of the god Sol Invictus on December 25, so the Catholic Church adopted that day as a day to celebrate the birth of Jesus. And so Christmas began, about 300 years after Christ.
Prophets in the Bible were not always perfect and neither is Ellen White which is why she always points us back to the BIBLE by declaring it's infallibility. Jesus sat with sinners but didn't engage in their sins. If you can use a holiday to do some good and spread the Word then use it 🤷🏽♀️
Let the sheer Joy of Jesus’ birth on planet earth prevail! Let’s use that joy in bringing glory to God in the highest. Give good gifts, sing carols and show our love for one another. This is all pleasing to God anytime and we have time during this holiday to do these loving thing. “Use Christmas as an opportunity” to share a great Biblical event with all who name the Name of Jesus! Thank you, brother, for sharing Ellen White’s wise words. 🌲🌟🙏🏻❤️
If Seventh day Adventists believe in the writings of E G White, then howcome they are not obeing what she says, but still Amuse themselves on Christmas day, decorating the tree, having gifts, eating and drinking and having a "merry" time?
For me, I choose not to do anything on that day because it’s either you accept it or not. If you choose to do something different on that day, you are also starting to create your own tradition. You can give books and share gifts on any other day.
We get our doctrines and ways of living from the Bible only. EGW opinions and the opinions of the editors and publishers of the Review and Herald does not supersede the separation from the world and its ways as commanded in the Bible. This video is an endorsement of Catholic serpent theology taught to us by Jesuits who infiltrated our SDA church. Smh...👎 II Corinthians 6:17 NKJV [17] Therefore “Come out from among them And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you.” James 1:27 NKJV [27] Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to KEEP ONESELF UNSPOTTED FROM THE WORLD. Amen...
Should We Celebrate Christmas?
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My brother Christmas is pagan by nature, is not what you do on Christmas that makes it pagan,is like saying that what we do on the sabbath makes it Holy? it is Holy because it is Holy no matter what you do.
Jeremiah 10:1-5 Isaiah 66:16,17 and in the book of Deuteronomy God admonished Isreal not to go in the ways of the heathens, Christmas is not about Jesus
Guess they know what they're doing. Bible Prophecy has to be fulfilled.
@@robertbaker231 brother I totally agree with you, that’s why I don’t celebrate Christmas and I don’t think any Adventist should celebrate Christmas either.
If we look at it, December 25 is not Jesus birthday, so it’s a lie and all lies comes from Satan
I think that you completely missed the point what EGW has said. She never justified idolatry in the church. God is not honored by observing Christmas, Satan is. God is not honored by Christmas songs in the church such as "holy night" for there is no holy night. God is not honored by displaying angels on the tree or nativity scene. You are twisting her words even by your ignorance. Besides who brought the Christmas if not the some man of sin that brought spurious Sabbath. Who we honored then? You guys just cannot stay away from it. Man truly loves sin.
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Well explained. As an Adventist I honestly appreciated this very much.
May God receive all the glory and honour. Thankyou.
God bless you
As an Adventist, you should follow the Bible and the Bible alone. The pastor and Allen White is human and followimg Pagan holidays. Look at what the Bible says only. Everybody watching this video was probably hoping gor this answer from Allen White, to continue in good concience with this Pagan holiday. It is evil, just like halloween. If they say it is kept for the right reason, then surely the people celebrating halloween and keeping it as Hallowed be They name day, is keeping it for the "right" reason? You simply can not take a pagan day and make it "right" !! It is the worship of the sun and you can not take Jesus in the face and make it His birthday.
Jesus was conceived in the 6 month
Happy sabbath brothers and sisters. Let’s continue to keep Christ as the center of our lives.
It truly amazes me how:
1). Adventist Christians can watch this video prayerfully and yet still not get the point Sis White was making.
2). How Adventists cannot interact on a post without getting into a word fight. Adventists are suppose to be Gods Remnant, proclaiming the love of God to the world, dharing and teaching the 3 Angels Messages yet are the strongest denomination to fight and bicker points and truth.
3). Do not get the fact that if we cannot disagree without heated exchanges how can the world take our message serious. On every post i see by Adventists there is ALWAYS a verbal fight that breaks out that results in sarcastic word exchanges.
4). We know Christmas is pagan, we know Christ was not born on Dec 25th, but because most of the world is not “converted” to that truth, USE THIS TIME OF YEAR TO PREACH AND TEACH THE TRUTH ABOUT CHRIST. We do not have to put up trees or symbols, just use the joy of the season as a soul winning opportunity to teach someone about it, about the true meaning of the Birth, life, ministry, suffering and death of Christ. TEACH OTHERS PLZ AND STOP ARGUING OVER IT MY FRIENDS.
God allows me to get into plenty more of witnessing conversations around this time of year. Give out books and tracts. Give Bible studies. People are more receptive around this time of year than any other time.
Time is too short to waste bickering on what we already know as Adventists, start a witnessing ministry and be a Christ serving, Bretheren Loving Witness!!!
Powerful 🙏🏿🙏🏿
Amen
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Beautifully written Shavon
When attempting to share truth on this topic, it is difficult to prevent an argument from others. Even your message, as well intended as it is, can sound a bit chastising and argumentative. On a site like this, people are going to be forthright and say exactly what they think. It’s just part of the venue. The only way to prevent argument is to shut down comments. We either agree with something or we don’t. Perhaps we can still learn some from each other.
Thank you for your message,very interesting.this is was always my belief on xmas every year.actually im a seventh day adventist christian and I have this book of Ellen G White.I also have a good respect for her writtings..God bless you and family brother.
John 15:19 NKJV
"If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you."
Christmas is from the world
Amen and Amen 🙏 praise the Lord 🙏🙌 well said in Jesus name amen.
Amen and amen. Thank you for once again confirming what I read years ago
Thank you ❤my husband and I have been searching for years to truly define our stance on Christmas and this 👆 have been a game changer. God bless Sir.
Just look at the history of how it started. Nothing to do with Jesus. Look up saturnalia, yule ride, windy solstice , birthdays of nimrod , Osiris etc
Also note people like Charles Spurgeon said Christmas, Easter etc have nothing to do with us - real Christians
Hi Amber. Tell your husband I said hello - if you can figure it out.
I will give a hint: gyc
People will have themselves pastors who wispers the sooth word they want to hear in their ears
Brilliantly stated. Everyone has a decision to make. Focus on Jesus. Share Him however the Spirit moves you to do so!
Xmas is a pagan holiday but all Christians set aside their beliefs to celebrate a pagan holiday. So sad only a few people understand . People are focus on extravagant , parties, food, gift etc . There is no Christ in Christmas. It is a worldly holiday and almost all the world enjoy it.
It's a day that Christian should never ignore.
Birthdays are pagan, the names of the days of the week are pagan and the pagans use the sun as their symbol of worship, are you going to hide from it? People give to much credit to satan where they are fearful even enjoy a day of recognition of Christs birth. You dont have to have it on the 25th or at all if you dont agree with it but dont judge other peoples personal walk with God who choose to celebrate it with family and friends. God knows each heart and will do the judging. People are becoming finatical and need to ask God to help them be balanced in their beliefs and not go overboard in one area and totally lack in another.
@@voiceofhopemediais God( Jehovah) part of Christmas?
It’s not “ignored” by Christian’s, we just shouldn’t participate in any part of it that is pagan. Read “ the two Babylons “ by Alexander Hyslop
What is Christmas and goodfriday according to the Bible?
If the whole world participates in something, that already should get you thinking...
1 John 2:15-17 NKJV
"Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world-the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life-is not of the Father but is of the world. And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever."
Great message. May God bless you my brother.
Amen
Best ever explanation...about the holidays i have heard..it speaks to my heart..thank u brother
Thank you for explaining this clearly. Not a day for debate. Thank you so much for clarity.
@@Lonesometrail64 Thanks.
I thank God for directing me to this platform 🙏🙏🙏
Amen
A blessed presentation! Thank you, Brother.
I love the way u address this topic
I don't celebrate xmas, i stopped years before becoming a Seventh Day Adventist, i give gifts to people in my life throughout the year, it doesn't interfere with my salvation if someone else is celebrating it, we will know in the future if Christ wanted us to celebrate it, i know its true history and that's why i stopped, my son was 10 years old when i stopped it, i explained it to him and i didn't stop him from spending the time with his grandparents. ❤
The SDA is a cult
You explained it very well Brother! Thank you for sharing and reminding us again and again.
I agree it should be a time to share Jesus. I am yet to see a Christmas tree with offering for the poor🤷🏽♀️
Christians don't only need to share gifts on Christmas, people needs us every day, not once a year 😢
This was so well presented. Very BALANCED. Thank you.
Amen.thanks for your explanation 🙏
2 Corinthians 6:14-18 NKJV
"Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will dwell in them And walk among them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people." Therefore "Come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you." "I will be a Father to you, And you shall be My sons and daughters, Says the LORD Almighty."
I hear her advise.... But the problem we face is one out of a million families will dedicate the day to Christ. Everyone else will have a Christmas tree and gifts sharing and have a day of Amusement...
It's better to not participate in things that are not of God..... Christmas has got NOTHING to do with Jesus.....
Psalm 77:13 KJVS
"Thy way, O God, is in the sanctuary: who is so great a God as our God?"
Where is the Christmas tree in God's Sanctuary?
I really like this book , God bless you My brother for the light you are reviewing to the world
Thank you 😊
I struggle with this holiday because it is Pagan. I grew up celebrating Christmas, but when I read in the book of Jeremiah chapter 10 I began to question Christmas.
I haven’t celebrated for 9 years now. I thank you for sharing here what the Spirit of Prophecy has to say about it. I tend to make it just like any other day. It is hard to do when everyone around us is celebrating it. I do return to those who say to me Merry Christmas or happy holidays, the same greeting joyfully! Giving out The Great Controversy around the church this year was quite rewarding! Sang with a church Christmas Carols about Jesus and in the past with our church we’ve packaged blankets and socks for the homeless. I do have to say to that I enjoy the Christmas lights at night as I need to take my dogs out at night, it gives me more light. 😆
God is good for sending me this message. Thank you for making it! 😊
Thanks for the lesson, Shepherd. 😊
This is one time of year, Hearts may be open to hear about the Savior. So you do nothing ?
I am a Sabbath keeper, NOT a SDA, even though I was long ago, until God (2Tim.2:9) called me out of that confusion and into His church (Eph.4:4-5, 5:27). Anyway when people say Merry Xmas or New Year's to me, I reply back by saying I don't believe in it because it honors another god or it honors Janus the god of gates. To me, some get intrigued and want more answers, so I send them to Tomorrow's World. Out of the people I send, several people have liked the site. Maybe you should try and look at it yourself, you would find more truths in God's Word.
When people say Merry Christmas to me, or Happy New Year, I usually reply back by saying I don't believe in them because it honors another god, or honors Janus the god of gates. I usually send these people to the Tomorrow's World site.
@@leinalophar5218 But Whosoever Shall deny me Before others, Will be Deny before my Father which is in Heaven ( Matthew 10:33 )
Hmmm, brother, God bless you. Truly ive longed for this interpretation or teaching on this christmas. Ive not fully been able to explained better. Always im hooked, i have a bridge somewhere in my explanations which brings about me stopping on the way. I always love to hear such well digested explainations n i grab it andni can tell someone out there. Ah brother, thank you. Truly im always bold to tell or speak when ive learnt and understand God's Word. Thank you ooooh im so happy for this. God bless you all brethrens for d God giving knowledge which you impart to others like me.
Im happy.
It seems to me that many SDAs use Ellen White’s words to excuse elaborate decorations, etc. in their churches and homes. Something seems very compromising about it. The story of the golden calf leads me to think that God does not smile upon our participation. I’m sure it is good to show kindness and to give toward God’s work on all days, but I believe that it is a slippery slope on December 25th and can easily become very mixed up with the world. I agree with another commenter that showing Santa while justifying the decorations is worthy of question. Even the word Christmas is bothersome as it is a Catholic word. I no longer use it myself in referring to the holiday. Just my thoughts.
EG White is a false teacher. Read Jeremiah 10:1-5
Not everything Catholic is evil. There are some things that are not Catholic but very occult. Remember Catholic also use the word Jesus.... should we stop calling on Jesus as well?
@@markphelps9218how do you mean?
@@voiceofhopemedia
I appreciate your reply. You’re right that not all Catholic words are evil. However, Protestantism doesn’t accept the Catholic mass…but many do accept Christmas which means ‘Christ’s mass.’ That seems conflicting to me.
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I appreciate your reply. I tend to believe that EW’s writings are inspired by God but that her words can be somewhat distorted in order to justify certain things. However, I continue to search for truth and certainly don’t have all the answers.
God bless you brother for the more insight about Christmas ❤
This is the time to preach about the three Angel 's message
Probation is nearly closing
FEAR GOD AND GIVE ALL GLORY AND HONOR TO HIM
Ellen White or not, I don't understand why we say to people that Sunday is the mark of the Beast but that we can celebrate christmas. There is no difference between christmas and Sunday they have the same origin. God bless!
Amen. Agree
We don't say Sunday observance is the mark of the beast, but it will be enforced in the future that's the mark of the beast.
Well I am a SDA and believe in the spirit of prophesy. I celebrate Christmas but it’s not a big deal for me. It’s just my way of having fun and spending time with family and giving back to the community which I do all the time but Christmas bring special meaning. Many holidays are Paganism and other things also such as celebrating birthday, Valentine’s Day, Easter etc. Just because you celebrate the day does not mean that you are going to Hell. I don’t consumed by these days, I always give God thanks. Some people are just so heavenly minded that they are no earthly good.
We sre suppose to be heavenly minded.
So why support paganism, set another day aside.. why not thanksgiving? Celebrating freedom from Catholic persecution when pilgrims came to america
"GOD DOES NOT OWN THE PLEASURE SEEKER AS HIS FOLLOWER. Those only who are self-denying and who live lives of sobriety, humility, and holiness are true followers of Jesus. And such cannot enjoy the frivolous, empty conversation of the lover of the world." (Adventist Home, pg 525)
Come out from among them and be ye separate saith the Lord. CHRIST MASS. How much more pagan and Babylonish can it be. You sir, will be judged by your words and YOUR DEEDS. It is in direct contradiction of the Ten Commandments as well.
Sighhhhhh this is serving two sides
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Let each letter of each Word sink deep in your ears, prophesy unto us smooth things they said.
Sad world we are living in. This man gave every reason to sin. christmas is not special, we do good all our lives as Christians don't wait till one pagan day.
Who has ears to hear let him hear.
To, the lost world.
He discussed e g while terms....he didn't say to celebrate it or not .. if its your conviction not too...don't.... leave everyone to their own decisions ...... it's Christ Job to convict and convince not yours
The plain streight truth is christmas is a pagan day like Sunday let us treat it thus
That is wrong information
The bible is our only guide
This is what you are going to tell the people when Sunday law pass
Straight and to the point, thank you my brother, matter closed,AMEN
I like the explanation especially when he said, on this day we can share Love and share gifts including food to those who are worse less fortunate than the most of us if not all. That's really fascinates me a great deal.
Love and gifts can be shared everyday. If you gonna wait for that false heathen day to come to share love, it means you didn't fan the love for the whole year, that's why scriptures says love of many shall wax cold. Anyway, the Bible is instruction for the Saints, it depends what you are.
You can give gifts any day. If you're in the forefront giving gifts how are you going to tell others that they shouldn't celebrate it
Look at EGW Video about Christmas. She says: Yes it is not the day Jesus was born. But we do not have to ignore it. It can be a joyous day showing Christs love by providing a meal for aged, visiting sick, and lonely. If day stays Christ centered as every day of our lives we can give gifts of love. Books food visits. And celebrate His love not His "birth"
I agree
2 Corinthians 11:4 NKJV
"For if he who comes preaches ANOTHER JESUS whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a DIFFERENT GOSPEL which you have not accepted-you may well put up with it!"
Thank you very much for sharing this important massage
December 25 is the day the pagans celebrated the sun God, Cannot believe that the SDA are taking part in anything relating to this pagan worshipped.
I was raised as a Christians and love Christmas, but as i began to read the Bible i became uncomfortably with the celebration of Christmas and other so-called Christian celebration, which has nothing to do with true followers of our creator. Jesus warned against following the traditions of men, rador then of God. choose this day who you will served, the God of the Bible or the god of this world.
❤ thank you for making it to light
Amen my brother, it's just an holiday the Sabbath is the most sacred day days of the week , God is the one who sanctified it, bless it and make it Holy day .
Sabbath is the celebration day..
Love we share everyday.
But The Sabbath is the Highday
Well said brother..bless you
Never have and never will celebrate Christmas I always thought it was pagan. Now I get a better and clearer
understanding I will share with my relatives. My children are grown and there is one grannd child and it remains
the same thank God. Thank you gor sharing
On ur 4th point u mention its not directed to idol worship...seem to me u did no research at all...its got everything to do would idol worship...it come from paganism...
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but having itching ears, they shall heap to themselves teachers in accordance with their own lusts. 1 Tim. 4:3
Understand that Adventist Home chapter 77 is prefaced by Adventist Home chapter 76, particularly the very first paragraph. That is the context you are missing when trying to understand what she is saying about Christmas.
Christmas is purely pagan. The days of ignorance God winkles, Ellen White on that subject never said that it's a direct revelation from God, she just gave Council according to the light that was there during her days. Have u read in her statement that it was a pagan holiday? So she is the one telling u to consider time and place, so that was time of ignorance. We have a clear light about Christmas.
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Very True. To God Be The Glory.
@narrowwaytolife4525 We are Celebrating Jesus is born. He's Alive and He has redeem sinful humanity. It's about Christ. Well for me. Can't speak for others.
Thank you..
Beautiful talk thankyou
I celebrate the fact that Jesus has come to saved man kind. I am not celebrate like the world did., but I like the dates off to spend time with family and friends.
Compromise is what she's asking. This is where the greater light has to outshine the lesser light. Jeremiah 10 says to have NO part in what the heathens are doing. Everything she's suggesting to do in this day should be done be us everyday. This is so sad. Christmas is all about the worship of another God. They added Jesus to this Pagan worship to entice the Pagan worshippers to accept Christianity. It's an insult to Jesus!! Again so sad that we want to mix it. 😢
I sense misguided sanctimony
So birthdays are not acceptable iether? You cant say the names of days of the week or the months as they are all pagan names. Paganism is everywhere. Too many people get all worked up over christmas with a holier than thou attitude but will accept other pagan ideas that have been passed down to our day. Pagan sun worship is what we realy need to be aware of as this is part of Gods command to keep holy the 7th day. Christmas is what you make it and not nesesarily about worshipping another God. Christs birth was a glorious event historically and because God has hidden the date unfortunately the 25 of Dec. was chosen. We know this to be the supposed birthdate of all the pagangods but we know they are nothing and that the God of heaven is the onlytrue God.
Christmas is a pagan day
She is NOT saying compromise!!! Geez!! She's talking about PREACHING!! Same with Sunday. When the Sunday law sweeps across the world, God told her we should PREACH the truth!! Take advantage of the falsely chosen day to PREACH the truth man! Why is that so hard to understand?! A lot of secular people are open to hearing about religious topics on Christmas. So..... give them a Desire of Ages!! Or a Great Controversy!! Instead of sitting on your behind complaining that Christmas is a false day. Share the truth instead. Share a book. Be opportunistic. It could save someone.
Where do we find that there's a time for the greater light to outshine the lesser light? Does EGW stop being a prophet when you disagree with her?
O yes broher give Christ on Christmas day everybody share the love
Amen brother amen God be praised.
Amen to this clear message
Very well said.Amen.
God bless you
What does scriptures say about anything that was offered to demons and statues or pagan religious beliefs???
Does the fact that the whole world accept Christmas give it biblical support? If so, then we should also accept Sunday as the day of worship
There is no comparison here. Think about it.
If Christmas is going to be accepted then Sunday should also be accepted.
She never said accept it. She said use the falsely chosen day to preach and share the actual truth! Same with Sunday. When the Sunday law arrives across the world, preach. God showed her, disagreeing doesn't mean hiding in a hole somewhere. It means preaching! Take the opportunity and run with it! :)
A lot of secular people are open to religious concepts at Christmas. So..... give them a Desire of Ages! Or a Great Cobtroversy!! Jump at the opportunity while you have it.
We all know that December 25th is not the day of Christ birth. The important thing is that He came, died, and was resurrected. Let's not lose that focus. Christmas is for the merchants and those seeking financial gains.
Agreed but telling people to put up a tree and putting money on it was going too far
I'm leaving this right here.
Jeremiah 10:1-5
Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
I get it we should take advantage of festive and work a plan to have activities that glorify God. Wonderful enlightment.
Amen Amen Amen well said.
"Christlike character" - Amen brother, thanks for sharing. This topic has been fuzzy for me. Happy 2024!
It's very interesting to hear this and I like it
While the world is still celebrating Christmas as Adventists we are given the time to confirm that Christ was born into this world, not the time of his birth. There are many who will respond to the leading of the Holy Spirit during this season.
Praise God ❤❤🎉🎉
Every x mass, you bring up this subject... just go mind your faith ... if you can't change the world, stay where you are
Just like the way Jesus said that it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath so say I that whether Christmas ' s origin is pagan -- it is right for us to do good on that day. Let's take advantage, we evangelise, period
Thank you for sharing this about Christmas. Has made me see christmas opportunity to share Christ to others. Its about Jesus
It's not . Don't be fooled Satan is subtle....I love reading of Mrs White...but I will not agree with this...
Why would Satan celebrate Christ ...he hates HIM!!
I'm not seeing this world stance for celebrating Christmas...when I know the roots of this pagan day...fooyah
well said!!
What is Christmas and goodfriday according to the Bible?
As a researcher I found EG white to be fake and plagiarism in many aspects.
Use Christmas as a time to show others the love of God as a witness
For our family this Christmas, we celebrate as a family. From worship, feasting to 🎁 exchange. Holiday does not make me holy... Christ did..!!.. shared with the family "Prince of peace" OT; "Peace be on earth" NT; and Blessed are the Peacemakers for they will be called the sons of God. Before our gift exchange, I reminded the family on the greatest "gift" of all, Jesus Christ. On the acceptance of that gift, we based our family gift exchange...... All have a blessed Christmas...
It would be nice if the topic had said, what the bible say about Christmas as it can be found in there.
Where is it found? Nowhere. The cutting down of the trees in groves found in the Old Testament was for the purpose of worshiping it. It was a form of nature worship.
Why do we want to take part in pagan festivals?
@@createdcreated1977 the cover up is to celebrate christ according to traditional, but what a way christ is celebrated no ounce of reverence
But what the tree is representing in the church
Amen! Brother
Hell for those who telling from what God words said and useing man words to justify themselves
Galatians 4:8-10 NKJV
"But then, indeed, when you did not know God, you served those which by nature are not gods. But now AFTER you have KNOWN GOD, or rather are known by God, how is it that you TURN AGAIN to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage? You OBSERVE DAYS and months and seasons and years."
Christmas is a symbolic holiday. It is celebrated around the Winter Solstice, the longest night of the year and the transition from days getting shorter to days getting longer, and one week before the New Year. This day we celebrate Christ coming into this world at the darkest time of mankind and bringing new light into this world and starting to renew everything.
Perfectly said!! ❤️❤️❤️
Doublespeak. You can not make it mean what you want it to mean. WHERE DID IT ORIGINATE? Babylon, that's where.
Any to excuse or justify error.
Ellen was clear in her response to the question of whether we should celebrate Christmas. She is saying switch the focus to Christ and Glorify God instead of ourself. That's okay. But how did you get it that she said the Christmas tree should be in your home? She clearly stated put it in the church. Why twist what she said to suit us? Church is church home is home. Have a happy season. God is love. Lets show love to each other especially during the time when others see it fit to do so.
Christmas is about 🎅 Santa
Thank you very much for sharing, this refreshed memories of me reading the said book as a young man growing in Christ & I've since then followed in that direction & lead my family like-wise🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
God bless you
For about 300 years after Jesus was born, no one celebrated his birth.
Why not?
Because the Jews and early Christians believed that birthday celebrations were a pagan custom forbidden by God.
The Jewish historian Josephus, who was born a few years after Jesus died, wrote, “the law does not permit us to make festivals at the births of our children” (Against Apion, 2.26). He was probably referring to Leviticus 18:3-4, which says:
“According to the doings of the land of Egypt, where you dwelt, you shall not do; and according to the doings of the land of Canaan, where I am bringing you, you shall not do; nor shall you walk in their ordinances. You shall observe My judgments and keep My ordinances, to walk in them: I am the Lord your God.” (NKJV)
Since the Jews did not celebrate birthdays, people didn't hold a birthday celebration when Jesus was born. If you read the Bible carefully, you will see that the wise men who came and gave gifts to Jesus did not arrive until many months after Jesus was born. They gave gifts to Him as a king, not to celebrate His birth.
More than 200 years after Christ died, Christians still avoided birthday celebrations. For example, the theologian Origen wrote this about birthdays:
“not one from all the saints is found to have celebrated a festive day or a great feast on the day of his birth. No one is found to have had joy on the day of the birth of his son or daughter. Only sinners rejoice over this kind of birthday. For indeed we find in the Old Testament Pharaoh, king of Egypt, celebrating the day of his birth with a festival, and in the New Testament, Herod. However, both of them stained the festival of his birth by shedding human blood. For the Pharaoh killed ‘the chief baker,’ Herod, the holy prophet John ‘in prison.’ But the saints not only do not celebrate a festival on their birthdays, but, filled with the Holy Spirit, they curse that day.” (Homily 8 on Leviticus, 3.2).
But as Christianity grew and became the religion of the Roman empire, things changed. Many Romans celebrated the birth of the god Sol Invictus on December 25, so the Catholic Church adopted that day as a day to celebrate the birth of Jesus. And so Christmas began, about 300 years after Christ.
@breggiemerrick9453 Your answer is perfect. Thank you. I wish many people understand that.
Prophets in the Bible were not always perfect and neither is Ellen White which is why she always points us back to the BIBLE by declaring it's infallibility. Jesus sat with sinners but didn't engage in their sins. If you can use a holiday to do some good and spread the Word then use it 🤷🏽♀️
Happy new year
CHRISTMAS IS HERE TO STAY... DO YOUR PART DURING CHRISTMAS IN WHATEVER WAYS YOU PREFER... IF YOU CAN'T BEAT THIS CHRISTMAS JOIN IN...
Amen Hallelujah ❤
You said don't forget Jesus and at the same time you show a picture of Santa.😮
The book of Jeremiah, where God strictly forbids cutting down trees and decorating them like the gentiles did makes EG White a false teacher.
Let the sheer Joy of Jesus’ birth on planet earth prevail! Let’s use that joy in bringing glory to God in the highest. Give good gifts, sing carols and show our love for one another. This is all pleasing to God anytime and we have time during this holiday to do these loving thing.
“Use Christmas as an opportunity” to share a great Biblical event with all who name the Name of Jesus! Thank you, brother, for sharing Ellen White’s wise words.
🌲🌟🙏🏻❤️
Haw das this connection with the bath of kraist
If Seventh day Adventists believe in the writings of E G White, then howcome they are not obeing what she says, but still Amuse themselves on Christmas day, decorating the tree, having gifts, eating and drinking and having a "merry" time?
For me, I choose not to do anything on that day because it’s either you accept it or not. If you choose to do something different on that day, you are also starting to create your own tradition. You can give books and share gifts on any other day.
Christmas Is a pagan holiday: It is written & This Saith The LORD AMEN XOXO 📖👑👏🙏
I prefer to hear what God says
Those that worship God the Father must worship in spirit and truth.
We get our doctrines and ways of living from the Bible only. EGW opinions and the opinions of the editors and publishers of the Review and Herald does not supersede the separation from the world and its ways as commanded in the Bible.
This video is an endorsement of Catholic serpent theology taught to us by Jesuits who infiltrated our SDA church.
Smh...👎
II Corinthians 6:17 NKJV
[17] Therefore “Come out from among them And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you.”
James 1:27 NKJV
[27] Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to KEEP ONESELF UNSPOTTED FROM THE WORLD.
Amen...