The FTX Plan Is BETTER Than Celsius (Plus Mashinsky & SBF)

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  • @abennett
    @abennett  4 місяці тому +3

    Who got it worse? FTX or Celsius customers?

    • @sahidko1377
      @sahidko1377 4 місяці тому +1

      good video but I think you should have included the up to 30% tax in the FTX vs. Celsius for more like to like compare ... I am going to check whether my country actually accepts US checks now :D

    • @ranamayah
      @ranamayah 4 місяці тому +3

      Unfortunately Celsius customers. 😢

    • @bd7944
      @bd7944 4 місяці тому

      FTX. Timing is everything. At least I got a portion back from Celsius already. Then moved it into Arcblock and got 50,000 gain!!! Rather get a smaller amount earlier and get into the market before it really pops!!

    • @mayaburger
      @mayaburger 4 місяці тому

      Atomic Wallet

  • @hiachiever
    @hiachiever 4 місяці тому +20

    Mashinsky deserves far more. He blatantly lied week after week. He was not on the same bus, he was a rat the whole time, and once the ship started to sink, he was one of the first off!

  • @DamonMurphy1
    @DamonMurphy1 4 місяці тому +25

    Solely on the fact that Mashinsky REPEATEDLY (every daggone week) promoted Celsius as 'safer than banks' and encouraged customers to move all of their money to Celsius indicates that Mashinsky should get at least the same punishment. Now, add-on the behavior as Celsius started to unravel - he needs to be held up as an example/warning to future criminals as what the consequences are should some other criminal entersprise follow Celsius' path.

  • @macrobody
    @macrobody 4 місяці тому +34

    I hope Alex gets 25 years as well.

  • @Andrew-mk7rm
    @Andrew-mk7rm 4 місяці тому +57

    Mashinsky should get life in prison. He was much more diabolical and deceptive than SBF, and he WANTED to rip us off.... Sam was mostly just oblivious and naive.

    • @stephenbmx1177
      @stephenbmx1177 4 місяці тому +1

      Agree!

    • @Fearzero
      @Fearzero 4 місяці тому

      SBF is a psychopath too, don't kid yourself.

    • @GrumpyOldGuy777
      @GrumpyOldGuy777 4 місяці тому +2

      Sam is a sociopath.

    • @jr-gw3si
      @jr-gw3si 4 місяці тому +1

      And, what about his wife and other insiders? Lock them up and set an example for any new fraudsters thinking to follow in his foot steps.

  • @kudosthehero
    @kudosthehero 4 місяці тому +34

    I hope we will get more distributions from the mashinsky trial. Him sittin in jail makes no difference to me, getting more of my money back does

  • @Fast5322
    @Fast5322 4 місяці тому +57

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  • @carlmat9839
    @carlmat9839 4 місяці тому +19

    Celsius was all about the lawyers making money.. The judge messed up..

    • @Litzwire17
      @Litzwire17 4 місяці тому +4

      That's the nail on the friggin head. The judge included with lawyers in the Celsius case was a coordinated cash grab unlike any in history of post crime litigation.

    • @Manta84adam
      @Manta84adam 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Litzwire17 But what can be done with this? I am outside US but I will join group of people who do not want to give up so easily.

  • @jeremys181
    @jeremys181 4 місяці тому +3

    Didn’t Celsius have exposure to FTX/Alameda? How much does Celsius stand to recover from FTX and in turn provide additional recoveries to Celsius creditors?

  • @jepsparow9363
    @jepsparow9363 4 місяці тому +6

    Celcius was manage poorly
    All of them should be in prison

  • @egjohnson7939
    @egjohnson7939 4 місяці тому +7

    Bankman-Fraud was the second largest individual donor to politicians in the last cycle. Donating $ that wasn't rightfully his. 25 years isn't enough jail time.

  • @MrKAmsterdam
    @MrKAmsterdam 4 місяці тому +6

    Especially Celsius was scamming it's customers the second time when "exchanging" Bitcoin to USD at 19k and then back at 50k. So they gave everyone just 15%-20% of their initial crypto back and legally stole the other 80%-85%.

  • @stephenwilson5453
    @stephenwilson5453 4 місяці тому +18

    Celsius definitely stiffed us the only people who did well were the lawyers

  • @Sadowsky123
    @Sadowsky123 4 місяці тому +6

    I used to admire and respect the USA for what it stood for. Travelled there many times. No more desire to do so. The corruption is through its veins. Its a sickness that I can't see it recovering from

  • @mattbradley1716
    @mattbradley1716 4 місяці тому +5

    Mashinsky will get life imho. They'll make an example of him, for sure. The industry needs it too. More effective than regulation.

  • @DigitalAssetNews
    @DigitalAssetNews 4 місяці тому

    Good stuff Aaron. This has FTX/Celsius/Voyager/Blok-fi has been a reah shite show.

  • @dalelane1948
    @dalelane1948 4 місяці тому +4

    lol, celsius gave me back less than 10% of the bitcoin I had on the platform, at the time accounts were frozen, FTX couldn't have possibly gone poorer.

  • @gamingbtc
    @gamingbtc 4 місяці тому +3

    Aaron, you're nuts. Sam deserves 25 years easy. If he wasn't caught in this fraud he would have been on the path to being a trillion dollar fraud. The guy deserves life in jail and so does Mashinsky. Also their families need a deep investigation into their incomes and any money that wasn't earned on their own should be stripped from them.

  • @davesparkz
    @davesparkz 4 місяці тому +20

    They should give Mashinsky the option to avoid jail time if he gives up all of his wealth and it gets distributed to celsius creditors.

    • @gralaw1965
      @gralaw1965 4 місяці тому +4

      Even if he made us all whole he must still get some jail time, so less years for giving back all the millions he stole plus all his legitimate wealth too

    • @musmustafa7900
      @musmustafa7900 4 місяці тому +6

      @@gralaw1965 He deffo needs to do time even if we are 200% whole, people lost their homes, family, and committed suicide because of this Clone.

  • @TheCarpeBellum
    @TheCarpeBellum 4 місяці тому +6

    In otherwords, we got screwed because celsius had no major high profile figured involved, unlike FTX.

    • @DGA-808
      @DGA-808 4 місяці тому

      And no investment in Anthropic

  • @pouyavedadi4122
    @pouyavedadi4122 4 місяці тому +2

    Alex is so evil, I don't know how he sleeps at night.

  • @deluxelex9056
    @deluxelex9056 4 місяці тому +3

    SBF and Mashinsky deserve life in prison

  • @firstcoastcrypto
    @firstcoastcrypto 4 місяці тому +1

    FYI!!! In the federal system, prisoners can earn up to 54 days off their sentence each year for good behavior. With this in mind, Sam will get out in 21.25 years.

  • @itsbaxter2
    @itsbaxter2 4 місяці тому +1

    True, Cel customers are treated worse both in payout and in exposure to clawbacks. Sad.

  • @carlescortescosta8586
    @carlescortescosta8586 4 місяці тому +1

    Mashinsky deserves much much more, mashinsky lied to our face

  • @ranamayah
    @ranamayah 4 місяці тому +4

    Aaron, I haven’t received any information regarding the stocks. Do I have to do anything to get registered or this will be done automatically?

    • @egjohnson7939
      @egjohnson7939 4 місяці тому

      Did you check your Spam email? My email to register was in Spam (whereas all the other Celsius Stretto emails weren't). No, you won't automatically be registered, you'll need the info from the email. Beware of phishing.

    • @fritagonia
      @fritagonia 4 місяці тому

      I havnt recieved anything myself either.

  • @capella8632
    @capella8632 4 місяці тому +2

    Thanks Aaron, but can you please touch on the issue of delayed distribution by Celsius/Coinbase!!

  • @Thorwala
    @Thorwala 4 місяці тому +1

    Will the withholding tax be calculated on the full claim or the 19% interest portion?

    • @abennett
      @abennett  4 місяці тому

      Whole I believe.

  • @MatthewMarcus
    @MatthewMarcus 4 місяці тому +1

    Props to those FTX users who used the platform as a bank and only stored all their stables on there. 9% / year interest. Not too shabby.

  • @thumpernats
    @thumpernats 4 місяці тому

    What a con hey, typical American BS. SOL claim calculated at $16.10, yippee I'll get 118% of the claim when SOL trades at $140.00. Thanks for the video Aaron.

  • @MichaelMiller-ww9iy
    @MichaelMiller-ww9iy 4 місяці тому

    I have to respectfully disagree with you. 6:40 "prices of bitcoin were pretty similar", 7:20"price of ETH for FTX creditors was a lot higher". When running the number BTC was actually 17.8% higher for FTX than Celsuis whereas ETH was only 15.6% higher for FTX customers than Celsius customers. Although we all got hosed whether you got Mashinsky'd or SBF'd, some just took it in the Alex-hole a bit more than others.

  • @SharonJanice-ry1wk
    @SharonJanice-ry1wk 4 місяці тому

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  • @АлександрБелоусов-д7к

    I don't understand. What's the point of promising to give 118% of the amount if you have to pay 30% tax? For example, 10,000 (your funds ) * 118% = 11 800 * 30% = 8 260 You'll get your hands on it, it's even less than your initial deposit of 10,000. It seems to me that you are wrong with this 30% tax, this is some kind of theft.

  • @airstripone2419
    @airstripone2419 4 місяці тому

    Clawbacks are almost impossible to enforce overseas. USA court clawback judgements don't apply outside of the USA. If you're not American and do not live in the USA or are unlikely to do so in the next five years, simply ignore the clawback demands. What are they going to do, get on a plane and come and get you? No, they're not. And even if they do, they'll have to work thru your local countries civil law procedures and your local judges will probably take umbrage of Americans trying to enforce their laws on local citizens and send those American lawyers home with a swift kick up the ass.

  • @basel2626
    @basel2626 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for the update. According to my research, if you file a claim with the Bahamian Executive, you will not pay the tax. How realistic is it?

  • @chesterbuckenmaieriii1547
    @chesterbuckenmaieriii1547 4 місяці тому

    Celsius or FTX you were screwed. I preferred getting my investment back in BTC and ETH. At this point I am pleased to be free and only wish to see the perpetrators go to jail.

  • @CKNg-r4z
    @CKNg-r4z 4 місяці тому

    Is anyone out there still waiting for the Celsius distribution?? I got nothing so far, only 2 emails saying Coinbase can't process my transactions?! Mind fuck!

  • @emapau77
    @emapau77 4 місяці тому

    I held all my money on Ftx as FTT tokens and SRM tokens… What will happen there? How are they going to determine how much I get back?

  • @KerryAdrian-gm4nz
    @KerryAdrian-gm4nz 4 місяці тому

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    @HozumiOokawa 4 місяці тому

    Confidence in Revux token reaching 100x post-launch on Binance.

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    @EbonyWilda-pi1kj 4 місяці тому

    Just got my RevuxCoin RVX during the presale.

  • @firstcoastcrypto
    @firstcoastcrypto 4 місяці тому

    What about NFTs on FTX? Any chance we get access to them? If not, where did they go and who currently has them??

  • @RaymondStacycer
    @RaymondStacycer 4 місяці тому

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    @AnnSandra-lv9rd 4 місяці тому

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  • @vjames888
    @vjames888 4 місяці тому

    I received an email yesterday saying that international creditors can choose between the US process or Bahamas process. I am assuming there will be no withholding tax if you choose the Bahamas process?
    Does anyone have more info about this?

  • @SlackersIndustry
    @SlackersIndustry 4 місяці тому

    Why did and go to jail right away and scamshinsky taking so long, Celcius went down first, wonder if others from blockfi and voyager are going to stand trial also. Great video as always

  • @KL-nj9oe
    @KL-nj9oe 4 місяці тому +2

    Life in prison!

  • @daniel.sandoval
    @daniel.sandoval 4 місяці тому +1

    How is 25 years too much? He's literally responsible for the death of multiple people because of his actions.

  • @dispersionlostinthestars
    @dispersionlostinthestars 4 місяці тому +1

    Celsians were calling for this kind of recovery, but Simon Dixon was making arguements against it on twitter

  • @DouglasBerniell
    @DouglasBerniell 4 місяці тому

    Revux continuously surfaces in my crypto circles, a rising star indeed!

  • @jamesdixon3972
    @jamesdixon3972 4 місяці тому

    Ftx petition date btc price was less than celsius petition price around 17k

  • @beny.5736
    @beny.5736 4 місяці тому +1

    Of course FTX creditors ended up having it much better than Celsius 😂 FTX has so many more eyeballs on the case while no one gives a shit about Celsius 😂🤡 they were always gonna do better with FTX while Celsius were quietly being shafted 😂

  • @chicco7164
    @chicco7164 4 місяці тому +1

    Any information about creditors of FTX Europe ?

  • @jamesdixon3972
    @jamesdixon3972 4 місяці тому +1

    Their claim tho is worth about a 6th of what the crypto is currently worth. I'm glad I got celsius back I was affected but mainly stables 7 figs we got the gain from btc and eth obviously offloaded that shit for fiat

  • @sergeymelkumov9232
    @sergeymelkumov9232 4 місяці тому

    Still did not get my crypto from Celsius by the way.

  • @stevebanks9395
    @stevebanks9395 4 місяці тому

    Great video Aaron, thank you.
    It might be useful to see the comparison of Cel vs. FTX if you were holding BTC and want to be made coin hole.
    While FTX return is higher in %, BTC has pumped ~300% since their petition (vs. Celsius where BTC increased just over double) which means it works out nearly the same at todays date.
    As BTC climbs, it's worse and worse for FTX creditors who wish to re-buy their BTC with their returned cash 'x' months in the future (who knows what BTC price will be when they get that cash...)

  • @laramontes1746
    @laramontes1746 4 місяці тому

    Gosh, every day I wish that 'd never heard of Celsius !! And I wish we had other lawyers! And other members of the UCC....if there such a thing as KARMA, all of those players will have have to pay for what they did to us. They should be ASHAMED of themselves !!!!!!!!

    • @macrobody
      @macrobody 4 місяці тому

      I wish I sold all my CEL at a 50x and moved on, lol

  • @awesam7
    @awesam7 4 місяці тому

    I m international client. Why is the 30% tax on ftx n not on celcius? Also if the amount is too small, can I not even claim it?

  • @GeorgeJimmy-dj6ur
    @GeorgeJimmy-dj6ur 4 місяці тому

    Looking forward to the future of finance with Revux

  • @DeFi_Tyranny
    @DeFi_Tyranny 4 місяці тому +2

    Celcius and voyager screwed us soo hard...

    • @mchammer1836
      @mchammer1836 4 місяці тому

      Good point. I was wondering why my ass hurts 😂

    • @DeFi_Tyranny
      @DeFi_Tyranny 4 місяці тому

      @mchammer1836 i dont even have one anymore

  • @jackjennings520
    @jackjennings520 4 місяці тому

    Any insight on whether this FTX settlement will return money to Celsius that can be returned to creditors? How much? Timing? Thanks.

    • @abennett
      @abennett  4 місяці тому

      No news on that.

  • @shiningforce9033
    @shiningforce9033 4 місяці тому +1

    Just for the mere fact that courts have to negotiate how much of your stolen money you'll get back is crazy.

  • @Moto-89-KTM
    @Moto-89-KTM 4 місяці тому +2

    Thanks!

  • @lawhoff9581
    @lawhoff9581 4 місяці тому

    Their bankruptcy date was November 2022. Bitcoin was valued at $17, 000. So just like us on Celsius they're getting pricked.

  • @fitlikecharles88
    @fitlikecharles88 4 місяці тому

    Hey Aaron thanks for all the info you give us. I had a question that maybe u know the answer. if did not file a claim but I had USD in my account on FTX is there any chance that I get that back? Thank you.

  • @nextlevel.5652
    @nextlevel.5652 4 місяці тому

    Aaron , I’m surprised by your bad math , stable coin payments on Celsius were well over 100% , convenient class over 120% . Remember one is paid in crypto and the other in cash !1 you’re awesome Aaron and thank you for all you do, however the Celsius payouts were the best of all the bankruptcy’s, I am involved in 3 of them so I’m intimately aware of the payouts unfortunately 🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @inpersonaDK
    @inpersonaDK 4 місяці тому

    Thx Aaron…

  • @brandon1143
    @brandon1143 4 місяці тому

    What about the claim Celsius has against FTX? Shouldn’t that potentially reduce the amount FTX could give claims?

  • @jporter504
    @jporter504 4 місяці тому

    Is the court standing up a crypto mining company in the FTX settlement??? Seems like the judge in the Celsius bankruptcy case got in over his head.

  • @andrewrexroth6442
    @andrewrexroth6442 4 місяці тому

    Are you not accounting for the value difference in BTC and ETH high points since customers got their crypto back? Any who sold at those highs def got more value than FTX who is just getting cash and would have to buy in at such a drastically higher point right now.... or worse even higher as this drags on. Imagine they get paid near the height of the market. They miss this bullrun then.

  • @Kofz89
    @Kofz89 4 місяці тому

    Hey Aaron any idea on Blockfi updates supposedly they were now joining with Coinbase to distribute customer funds however I never got the initial email. Just like Celcius you never really get a response 😔

  • @trenton1190
    @trenton1190 4 місяці тому

    Of course, Democrats can't risk FTX holders getting too mad...

  • @sapphire_pear4979
    @sapphire_pear4979 4 місяці тому

    How can get I check my FTX claim? I did submit confirmation email but I can’t check my claim.

  • @1967Camaro
    @1967Camaro 4 місяці тому

    Aaron, have you received your shares of Ionic Digital yet? I have not.

  • @charalampossevastopoulos6241
    @charalampossevastopoulos6241 4 місяці тому +1

    So no crypto and no bullmarket .

  • @southbayproducts5371
    @southbayproducts5371 4 місяці тому

    Hi Aaron Thank you Sir. any info for us Celsius guys put in the convenient class we did not vote for? Keep up the great work

  • @kerrydeshotels9691
    @kerrydeshotels9691 4 місяці тому

    I just can’t understand WHY!?!
    This guy already had it made and he decided to become a shyster!

  • @jaydee8864
    @jaydee8864 4 місяці тому

    I havent been able to get my crypto using the codes off paypal or coinbase. Just get the run around from support. What can i do to get it?

  • @makingwaves8393
    @makingwaves8393 4 місяці тому

    It’s soo upsetting how they drag this thing out. Thank you for being a great source of comfort for those still waiting on our payouts!

  • @TakuyouFukasawa
    @TakuyouFukasawa 4 місяці тому

    Top picks for the bull run: DOT, FIL, SOL. Best ICO? Revux, massive potential.

  • @adventure_unlimited
    @adventure_unlimited 4 місяці тому

    CEL was still a taxable event according to the tax laws in my jurisdiction

  • @MrBuzben
    @MrBuzben 4 місяці тому

    I do not except nor will I comply. Cash is not what they took from us. Way to nice of a report.

  • @ergwehgr
    @ergwehgr 4 місяці тому

    Were we supposed to get cash as well as crypto back from celcius?

  • @ceezthaday
    @ceezthaday 4 місяці тому

    TY for the update Aaron, do we need to do anything as of right now as a FTX creditor?

  • @fezme7728
    @fezme7728 4 місяці тому

    Im interested in finding more infor about the clawbacks, I was able to withdraw my crypto from FTX before bankruptcy, leaveing no assets in FTX, do you know where I can find more info?

    • @airstripone2419
      @airstripone2419 4 місяці тому

      Are you an American citizen? Are you USA tax resident? Are you likely to live in the USA within the next five years? If the answer is no to all of the above, then ignore the clawback demands. It would be almost impossible for FTX lawyers to steal the assets you rightfully own.

  • @scud1962
    @scud1962 4 місяці тому

    Mashinsky is pumping his CEL bag which is fine as we will get it at the trial.

  • @GeminiOneFive
    @GeminiOneFive 4 місяці тому

    Banksters/ & Lawyers NEVER lose

  • @Richard-ok5un
    @Richard-ok5un 4 місяці тому

    What does this mean for blockfi customers?

  • @davidleshock639
    @davidleshock639 4 місяці тому

    Your voice is the only voice of reason in these bankruptcy proceedings. I appreciate your time and effort on our behalf. Thank you!!!

  • @Dongdang-fc2mb
    @Dongdang-fc2mb 4 місяці тому

    Thank you buddy, appreciated 🙏🏽

  • @DavidHarperMusic
    @DavidHarperMusic 4 місяці тому

    Thx Aaron

  • @sarajones8093
    @sarajones8093 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for keeping up with all of this and sharing!

  • @mcr5577
    @mcr5577 4 місяці тому

    celsius could have paid us all back 100% lol

  • @codetwoAJ
    @codetwoAJ 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for the FTX updates!

  • @Henry-by6fj
    @Henry-by6fj 4 місяці тому

    Isn't Celsius suing FTX?

  • @LennyinFlorida
    @LennyinFlorida 4 місяці тому

    👍

  • @charmander777
    @charmander777 4 місяці тому

    Who cares . Time to move on

  • @genesis3157
    @genesis3157 4 місяці тому

    FREE SBF NOW!!!!!