Roland FP-10 vs Yamaha P-145 Piano Comparison | Better Music
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2023
- Looking at a great digital piano for starting out? Here's your two best options, the Yamaha P-145 vs the Roland FP-10.
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Your review is just too good! Very polite and straightforward. Cheers 🫡
Hey thank you for your beautiful reviews😍❗🙋🏽♀️ my 8 yrs old son is starting to learn piano. Yes I have read a loooooot of positive comments regarding with Roland's E-piano Keys. I will definitely buy the Roland FP10 with headset❗ 😍🥳 God bless you more 🎉
The Roland FP 10 has the best action for that price you will ever get. I was floored by how good it is after owning a Yamaha P 45 and then a P 145. You have to spend 3000 on a Yamaha digital to get action as good. If you hold a key with thumb and second finger, bring it down a bit and jiggle it, you can feel hammers banging around inside the keys. That is fantastic and gives it an authentic grand piano feel, together with the textured keys - which you never get on other brands of this price.
The Yamaha P 145 is no where near as good, and the keys make a rattling sound. With the FP 10 the keys are fairly quiet when playing on low volume without headphones. I know, because when I do a video recording I hardly hear any sound from the keys, but with the P 145 I was hearing loud rattling sounds. I have way more control when playing the FP 10 compared to the P 145, because the latter's action is lighter and no where near as good.
It sound like "Im not in love" (10 cc). I´m thinking about buying on of those, since I own a Yamaha Electone Stagea ELB01 organ, but want to take piano lessons and need weighted keys. I´m a Yamaha Fan, but in Amazon Mexico the Roland is 300 dlls cheaper (600dlls vs 900dlls). Thank´s for the review.
Unreal. Having played piano for 20+ years on expensive digital workstations and acoustic grand pianos, the accuracy of the FP-10 piano sound at this price point has consistently made my jaw drop. I feel like artificial sounding mid-tones are generally a dead-giveaway when you're dealing with lower cost instruments, but the FP-10 just sings in the middle register. Add in the nice touches like the escapement and the textured keys, and I think you really can't ask for a better stand-in for a real piano.
For what it's worth, I love Yamaha, and the P-145 sounds great, here, too. Better than probably 80% of keyboards I've heard. It's just unfortunately matched up against a real freak of nature.
Too bad Roland's develop that clicking noise
@@Untilitpases Which clicking noise are you talking about? I'm looking at these models, along SP280 from Korg and some other. Difficult deciding without getting to try them in person.
@@JamieRIt's a noise that all digital pianos in this price range make, it's not a big deal unless you're someone full of anxiety. If you have doubts, I recommend that you find a place to try
@jaywalker That's curious because Yamaha piano sounds are typically more popular, though of course these things being very subjective anyway.
Myself, I disliked the FP range, precisely because of what I and many others labelled as weak mids and booming bass, this until the X versions came out. I even returned my FP-50 in disgust. I guess there are different ways of analysing mids, but at this pricepoint (FP-10) users are very lucky to get the PHA-4 action, and fine subjective issues of sound become a bit silly anyway. I'm sure it's a good buy. Glad you enjoy it.
IMO while the Roland has a slightly heavier more realistic key action, it has a more 'tinny' sound. These Rolands use the 'SuperNATURAL' sound engine, which is just a computer modeling technology that tries to recreate a piano sound, there are no real piano samples; unlike the Yamaha which uses sampling from a real CFX grand piano.
New Frontier by Donald Fagen at 6:40! I knew it was from The Nightfly, but couldn't place the song exactly til I looked it up on Qobuz. Great job on the video man, just checking out since I just got a Yamaha P145 for my girlfriend for this christmas, along with a seat, support and headphones for just 415€. She's gonna love it.
She has an incredible Clavinova at her parents' home but she wanted something cost-effective that would do her good in our new place. We wanted to stretch to the P225 but it costs almost double with accessories. This 145 will serve just fine.
Oh damn good catch I knew that I knew it but damn I could not place it! I thought it was something Billy Joel at first haha
I immediately had a sense that the sound was Steely Dan, but I couldn't recognize the song. If it is, indeed, Donald Fagen, I guess I was on to something 🤙
I looked for an instrument to replace my old and cheap Russian piano after moving abroad. Imo the Yamaha sounds and feels far more like a piano than the Roland.
You should have bought a Roland FP 10. It has the best action for that price you will ever get. I was floored by how good it is after owning a Yamaha P 45 and then a P 145. You have to spend 3000 on a Yamaha digital to get action as good. If you hold a key with thumb and second finger, bring it down a bit and jiggle it, you can feel hammers banging around inside the keys. That is fantastic and gives it an authentic grand piano feel, together with the textured keys - which you never get on other brands of this price.
The Yamaha P 145 is no where near as good, and the keys make a rattling sound. With the FP 10 the keys are fairly quiet when playing on low volume without headphones. I know, because when I do a video recording I hardly hear any sound from the keys, but with the P 145 I was hearing loud rattling sounds. I have way more control when playing the FP 10 compared to the P 145, because the latter's action is lighter and no where near as good.
New Frontier by Donald Fagan from his 1981 album The Nightfly.
The clarity of your voice is just awesome
Thanks a lot! You helped me to make my choice.
What was it
@@paabloo90210 the Roland :-)
What is your choise?
@@dragans6792 I bought the Roland. I'm a happy beginner 🙂
I hope your choice was a Roland FP 10. It has the best action for that price you will ever get. I was floored by how good it is after owning a Yamaha P 45 and then a P 145. You have to spend 3000 on a Yamaha digital to get action as good. If you hold a key with thumb and second finger, bring it down a bit and jiggle it, you can feel hammers banging around inside the keys. That is fantastic and gives it an authentic grand piano feel, together with the textured keys - which you never get on other brands of this price.
The Yamaha P 145 is no where near as good, and the keys make a rattling sound. With the FP 10 the keys are fairly quiet when playing on low volume without headphones. I know, because when I do a video recording I hardly hear any sound from the keys, but with the P 145 I was hearing loud rattling sounds. I have way more control when playing the FP 10 compared to the P 145, because the latter's action is lighter and no where near as good.
What about the quality and the MIDI feeling, I will buy a P-145, I would have preferred the Roland for the sound but I have a voucher to spend in a store that has only the Yamaha. I would like to plug a Keyscape into my DAW.
I heard that the MIDI was good on the Roland and not on the P-45.
7:50 - 10cc - I am not in love
thank you for this vid. was the audio recorded from room mics or did you go line out from the headphone jacks?
Very good question as the Yam has slightly better speakers.
The Roland sounds really great through a quality PA system, especially for the price.
"New Frontier" by Donald Fagen. Bonus points please
Think that's followed by 10cc's song 'I'm not in Love'
The Roland sounds more natural. The Yamaha sounds sort of "enhanced" but still very nice. Tough call.
The cheaper Rolands always have this typical piano sound that doesn't sound realistic to me. P145 CFIIIS sound should be a more warm than it is .. but at the same time it does sound like a CFIIIS.
@@jortepap Neither of these are supposed to give you super realistic piano tones at this price. But if you can’t hear that the Roland sounds more natural and less synthetic you might need some better headphones. The Yamaha hurts my ears.
I’ve had both piano at home for a few months. I also have a Nord Electro, and a quality German upright (Schimmel)
I think the “natural” quality is quite subjective.
And also it depends if you use the internal speakers or a PA system (we own a little venue, the keyboards are often played through the PA here)
I think the Yamaha sounds more like a real piano 🎹 n frame my of you and the Roland has its own sound more spacious audience oriented.
The Yam sounds very good if you EQ out slightly the top.
The Rolland sounds very good solo but the yam fits/cuts better in a band mix I think.
The action is better on the Roland.
For the price they’re both really good.
I don’t really like the Rhode sounds on the Roland (not really important)
Both are great entry level pianos
The grand piano sound in the yamaha is superior. It's more heavy and compact, more clear and it feels you're playing on a real acoustic piano
How do you record the raw sound of the FP10 from the 3.5mm jack?
Hi,
How about Yamaha p225 in comparison to both these two?
It is superior to the Yamaha P-145
The song was "May I Sit on a Carrot" by Dirty Dan and the Melbourne Trams
Wtf Fr?
5:23 Beastly :)
I don't know but for me,I really love the sounds of both models.Roland has that bright and warm sound while Yamaha has that deep and seemingly an opposite vibes on the sound compared to Roland.I think the choice is kind of depends (for me)on what music you will play.If you like to play classical music that mostly insist of that joyous vibes Roland is I think a good choice adds up for the jazz as well.Yamaha mean while I think suits better on Classical music that consists of that negative or sad vibes.I guess it would be good to play Chopin there😂
Hey, I'm about to buy a digital piano and i don't know wich one is better, the Roland FP-10 or Casio CDP-S110
If we had to pick between those options we'd go with the FP-10 as it has a better action
@@bettermusic thank you
@@bettermusicI dare to say this is very personal. I would try both. I did. Between the FP-10 and Casio CDP-S100 I chose the second one because the action was much better for me, my hand feel etc... Again, this was me! It is obviously different for you but could be the same for other people. Try it for yourself! :)
I bought the Casio a couple years ago when Rolands were out of stock. I did not like the Casio sound, it's like they overdid the hammer sound or something, some notes had what sounded like the banging of a construction nailer outside. I sold it and now have an FP10, absolutely the better option.
Roland.. thanks for the video.. ❤
Yamsha has no OUT mono cable conndction! Does the Roland ????
In my country the Roland fp 10 cost 120$ more than p-145 so is it worth it to buy Roland?
Good Video
Are Casio electric pianos with midi function worth looking at?
I wonder. Casio is cheap and every time I try one out it sounds awful - like a notch up from a digital watch.
I’m deciding between the Roland FP-10 or Yamaha P-45 which one is better?
Roland has better keys. It is the best imitation of the real grand piano.
@@P4P1KplWhich piano? I play Yamaha C7 - its action is light (47g to move C4). PHA-4 action needs 64g to move C4. PHA-4 develops clicking noise after 3-4 month of use (I had three digital pianos with PHA-4)
@@mfurman They are pretty heavy, the closest one i have tried to feeling like a real piano which i feel is lighter than the yamaha by a large amount was the korg b2. And even that one has a version with even lighter action.
@@majortom4543 The problem with PHA-4 is that it not only develops clicking noise after a few months of intensive use but (as it happened with my most recent Roland digital piano) has a tendency to increase the required downweight. I returned (after three months of use) this piano after I discovered that C4 needs 72g to move. Thank you for the advice about Korg. I will check it out (I am currently renting P-225).
New frontier. I’ll collect my bonus points now.
Do they both transpose?
Roland absolutely blows the Yamaha out of the water here in terms of sound. You can really tell with the example around 6:50... the Yamaha just sounds so digital while the Roland is much more authentic.
Were you using ext speakers?
Here in my country roland is 35% more expensive than yamaha, I think I will go with yamaha
Roland's are 10x more expensive here💀
here Yamaha is 20% is more expensive than Roland
I'm thinking of buying fp10 🤘I'm a beginner in piano but I just wanted to tell you guys that I can play guitar and ukulele very well:) As of now I'm 22 I really wanted to play a piano in my pre wedding night "soo romantic".
I heard that if you play guitar you can have a problem with piano. Everything because of hard fingers skin.
Same
I’ve been taking lessons plus have owned the FP-10 for 1 year. At school I play a Casio upright. They feel the same to me. It will be years before I outgrow my Roland.
can we use yamaha as a midi controller with any DAW?
My P115 can, so I assume yes.
fp10 for me the sound , sound like a real piano. the yamaha seems like the change of pressure doesnt matter .
yahama -> output sounds
fp10 -> output emotions.
I like playing the piano ☺️
What is the song he plays at the begging ? Please someone tell me 🙏🏼
Debussy - Clair de Lune. An extremely well known classical piece.
I just bought the fp10 but i am a little afraid since people complain about click sounds on the black keys. My main use will be to use it with cubase and vst instruments and it was quite cheap (373 euro) . Did i do a good buy or would you suggest looking at the casio s110 as well? Reason i bought it is to have a real piano feel when playing and recording
Yesterday I was at music shop. I wanted Roland FP10 but seller told me that Casio CDP-S110 is better. He lied me. I check specifications of them and there is a difference in polyphony. Roland = 96 voices and Casio = 64. There is a few things more. Overall I would take Roland in this comparison. Now I'm focus on Yamaha vs Roland and soon I would start my piano journey.
@@P4P1Kpl i went to the music shop last saturday and tested the Roland fp30x, the Kawai es210 and Yamaha 128p. It was clear that the Roland had the best piano feeling of them all. The Yamaha was the worst and felt plastic and the feeling just wasn’t there. The Kawai sounded amazing but the keyboard action was too light. I could not play soft, everything sounded equally loud. The Roland though had the feeling i know from a real piano, just like the piano at my parents. Also tried the pf10 but i heard the keys while playing. Conclusion is that the pf30x is the best choice.
@@WVMUSIC_NL thank you. I watched many reviews and all are saying what you told. Roland = real piano feeling. That is what I'm looking for. I would start my lessons soon (youtube and by my self) I don't want to waste my time to play on plastic toy. I want to teach my fingers properly. 30X is awesome but a bit expensive. I mean I could buy it but my wife would definitely kill me for that. 😂
@@P4P1Kpl well the fp10 does have the same piano feeling , the sustain is a bit different from what i read and i prefer a bit better pianosound
I have been use FP10 for two years, with Cubase in PC and Cubasis in Ipad. Great product IMHO.
Hi do you use an amplifier? I have the FP10 but it doesn’t sound as good as when I use my headphones.
yeah need headphone amp when using headphone.
@@janblade4747what do you mean??
The onboard speakers are the only place you can see how they got the price down, using a piano specific amp will certainly give you better audio
yes compare it even though i dont have one of these
was the Audio recorded thru a computer or recorded on a microphone?
microphone its on his shirt
Dear Sir, very wise, if compare NUX-20 and Yamaha P145 which will you buy? Thank you
What was the last tune you played called ?
Por lo que tengo entendido esa melodía pertenece a la agrupación británica 10cc de los años 70, la canción es " I' not in love". Saludos cordiales desde La Rioja, Argentina
I think the yamaha sounds a bit brighter than the roland and really like the sound of it?
PHA-4 has a completely different feel from GHC. I had both. GHC is very “springy” and does not resemble acoustic piano action at all (I play on Yamaha C7)
Did you like PHA-4?
@@capri2673 An interesting aspect of PHA-4 is that it seems to have changed recently. The feel and lubrication must have changed. To answer your question - I like PHA-4 in my recently bought RD-08.
I recognize Steely Dan but I can't place what song it is. Man, I'd love to learn to play that.
Close. It's one of Steely Dan's Donald Fagen solo works. The song is called 'New Frontier'. ua-cam.com/video/FtovFI8etOg/v-deo.html
@@DeLoRRe1965 I did not know the song but i did recognize Steeli dan style. The other one 10 cc i knew imedatleley
how to do touch settings on p 145
Just wondering what song played at the beginning (00:15)?
Clair de Lune - Debussy
Its Clair de Lune by Debussy
Is there still a problem with loud clicky keys on F10?
I guess if you have the volume at a lower setting (1-2 dots out of the 6) you might hear some clicks, especially on recordings while the phone is close to the piano, but at full volume it performs amazingly and you can't hear any clicks.
Yes but varies from one to the other Roland piano with PHA-4. Check the video Roland FP-10 (PHA-4) action noise test
So what is better?
Yamaha better sound
Fp 10 better action
@@runder2022Eso depende de gustos, sobretodo el sonido
Great review! Are they 3.5 mm headphone jacks?
P-145 has a 6.35mm (¼”) jack, not a 3.5mm. So you’ll need an adaptor to get down to the 3.5mm size.
FP-10 has the 3.5mm however.
@@bettermusic ...up to similar price range (in my country) what is better: Korg b2, Roland fp10 or Casio pxs1100...?
Hello,
Which one should i buy for a beginner ?
I can’t choose 😂
Thank you.
In my opinion Roland. If you start - better for you will be playing something almost like grand piano.
@@P4P1Kpl thank you
@@myriam3545 No problem. I would also start learning soon when my own Roland FP10 will be delivered to me
@@P4P1Kpl i can’t look forward
@@myriam3545have you bought it already? I'm thinking about buying it for Christmass and starting learning😅
Roland Wins
I have an fp10 and i love it but it has its limitaions. I love it with good headphones on. The underpowered speakers and the clicking sound of the keys makes it a bad experience.
Is thist rueof the FP30?
IM off yamha bc of shorter keys.
what headphones do you recommend? are the ones that come with the bundle sufficient?
Like the more really piano sound of the yamaha.
agree.
Roland sounds warmer/more round .. but also a bit fake. Yamaha sounds much more like a real piano. P145 also has a warmer sound as option which sounds great.
@@jortepap you might need some headphones my friend... the Yamaha had a very distinct digital sound to it in this demo. The Roland was almost indistinguishable from the natural sound of a piano. You have a Yamaha so obviously you would think it sound better to justify your purchase. Besides, it's not that important anyway. You can get some incredible piano VSTs and just use a computer.
PS, I have a Yamaha Red Label Acoustic guitar. It's the best guitar purchase I've ever made. But even I can tell the difference in sound here.
@@evirs For me its really the other way around. Also.. the Yamaha samples real piano's. Roland has computer made piano sounds. I can hear this difference for sure.
I tried them both in Oostendorp piano store here in The Netherlands.
👍👍
"New Frontier" Donald Fagen
The Roland sounded far more like a real acoustic piano to me. The yammy sounded digital. To bright and sharp. But, I'm very put off by all the comments about the Roland and clicky keys. That would drive me mad.
Depends. Real pianos DO have clicky keys - you normally can't hear them above the strings but go to a live classical concert and listen in the pianissimo passages and you'll hear them.
@@kenoliver8913 Sorry, I didn't think I would need to explain the difference between the natural soft click of an actual acoustic piano, and the factory sticking click of a defective digital piano. This is a known fault of the Roland due to incorrect storage of the keyboards in the warehouse - it is a bug, not a design feature meant to replicate a real piano.
imo Roland is the more digital sounding of the two.
@@jortepap Strange how we all perceive things differently. The Yamaha sounds obviously digital to me. The Roland sounds almost identical to an acoustic piano to my ears. It's a wonderfully convincing sound.
You honestly get use to it and don't even notice it anymore. I was very picky at first, but you have tje option to grease them again if you want, but I honestly dont even notice anymore. Roland action is also much more advanced so alot of moving parts. I honestly get swooped away by how good the sounds is and feels.
That melody is from the movie of the legend of 1900
DONALD FAGEN - NEW FRONTIER
Roland keybed better.Yamaha sound better.👍👍
Natural/ Grand Piano = Roland
EP Pianos = Yamaha
yamaha looks better 😍
onboard, onboard, onbiard, for the kids: on board
There are no muscles in fingers. Check the anatomy books!
Yoiu are quibbling. He should have said "tendons" instead of "muscles".
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Do yourself a huge favor and save your money for another month or two and buy the Roland RD-08 or FP30x, and then thank me later :)
which one is better
You made MONO ? Are you joke?))) What i should hear in MONO ?
Make your own rewiew
Roland. No competition. All Yamaha pianos suck, including their acoustic uprights and grands.
Depende de gustos
I have to agree on this. I hate ALL of the piano sounds in my yamaha. Not one of them sounds nice to me. NOT ONE. And then theres the heavy as f action. I have played many acoustic piano and non of them feel as heavy keyed as the yamahas digitals.
Yamaha make fine acoustic pianos.
Roland for life, babe.
@@majortom4543 I was pretty scared of that. Tyvm
both fantastic, similar, both both great. both both both,,,, the worst reviewer ever
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