@@JamieReynolds89 No...this was a child failed by his parents. The video I saw of him when he was 10 showed empathy for homeless people. He is on medication for mental illness thus the weight gain.
You think telling someone who thinks this is something to joke about is going to change their polluted mind. They would have to be heartless arrogant and ignorant no way someone like that listens to others opinions. It’s truly sad
Except for one teeny weenie little problem. That judge gave him life without parole. He can't do life without parole because the Supreme Court ruled that with adolescents, because of the underdeveloped brain, it constitutes cruel and unusual punishment and therefore violates the 8th amendment. I think this judge was just setting himself up for appeal. Or he was deliberately defying the Supreme Court
Whatever therapy/meds that have been implemented in the past 2 years apparently is working. Breaks my heart that his parents couldnt be bothered over the years to do the same for him.
We have to remember that at the end of the day, Ethan goes to prison and the grieving victims of this horrific crime go home with a hole forever missing from their heart. Their grief, sadness, anger, PTSD, doesn’t going away. These are real people who are living their worst nightmare while everyone’s life continues to go on. I hope we take a moment to realize the depth of their sorrows and pray that the victims never become another statistic and forgotten. My sincere condolences.
Here is another idea for you. Why don't those 'grieving victims' do something POSITIVE instead of focusing on that sadness and anger? Like advocating for change in this country as to how we handle mental illness? Because no matter what anyone says, at the end of the day it was mental illness that caused this tragedy. Around 80% of these incidents are the result of mentally ill people and probably 90% were preventable because the mentally ill showed SIGNS of their illness. It's just that no one cared enough to try to get them help.
Yes but if by some breeze of imagination he will serve 1000 years in prison alive and dead. He's proof that some humans should not be free to walk among others. Their thinking is not even animalistic its demonic. An animal kills to eat he killed for what reason?????? His excuses dont make sense. The world feels this pain. From way across the globe i feel the pain and fear of all the victims.
I agree that it wasn’t “chilling”, especially compared to the actions that he’s on trial for, but calling himself a “bad person” when that’s obviously a gigantic understatement isn’t really being accountable. He knew he was going to get life regardless. He was just trying to save face. In order for him to take responsibility for his actions, he would’ve had to say much worse things about himself and even ask for the DP. That would be true accountability. An eye for an eye. Or in this case…an eye for four eyes
“Bad person” doesn’t begin to describe the consequences of his actions and his general character. I think I might be a “bad person” sometimes and I would never dream of doing anything remotely close to what he did to those poor innocent kids. RIP to the victims
Of COURSE you wouldn't dream of it. Neither would I. Because we aren't mentally ill. Ethan DOES suffer from mental illness. He's not a bad person. He's just sick. If you want to talk about who the 'bad persons' are, they would be his parents. Because they KNEW he was mentally ill but yet they bought him a gun. That's why they are on trial for manslaughter.
There’s plenty of mentally ill people that don’t go on shooting sprees and I’m sure that some of them have access to a gun because there’s more guns than people in this country. That’s no excuse
Huh? I never said the state was sentenced. That makes it sound like I’m playing off a tragedy making it my own- or about Michigan instead of families. no. I said the lawyers representing the state did a good job….? But yes Ethan gave MANY people a life sentence that day. Many.
WOW. Well, he said give him the sentence the victims families want him to get. This judge made sure he’ll never be released and will serve LIFE. His statement was honest and chilling and proves he would be a danger to society.
Yea, well, that's simply not true. That judge gave him life without parole. He can't do life without parole because the Supreme Court ruled that with adolescents, because of the underdeveloped brain, it constitutes cruel and unusual punishment and therefore violates the 8th amendment. They HAVE to let him out at some point. I don't know it that judge was just setting himself up for appeal or if he deliberately violated a Supreme Court ruling.
@@AuntCathyPooh Yes, you're right. It was the reason for the Miller hearing. But the judge during the hearing should have set the minimum number of years he would have to do BEFORE being granted a parole hearing. Just like they did a couple weeks ago with those two kids who murdered the Spanish teacher. He still can't serve life. Miller clearly stated that. Two years ago in 2021 SCOTUS upheld Miller in Jones v. Mississippi when Kavanaugh wrote “youth matters in sentencing. As such, mandatory life without parole sentences remain unconstitutional for youth."
@@retroguy9494 “life” is generally 15 to 25 years (mandatory), before parole? Also, looked it up and “A few countries allow for a minor to be given a life sentence without parole; these include but are not limited to: Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina (only over the age of 16),[7] Australia, Belize, Brunei, Cuba, Dominica, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, the Solomon Islands, Sri Lanka, and the United States.”
Absolutely right. People need to understand that mental illness IS a thing, and some kids ARE broken. This won’t stop until we fix our mental healthcare system. It just won’t.
I agree with your comment to a certain degree that if his parents would’ve taken him home, it just wouldn’t of happened that day. I truly believe this child was going to do what he was going to do whether it was on the 30th or another day.
His parents should definitely have taken him home that day & should have gotten help for him long before that day, but this wasn’t the act of a single moment. This took planning of months & he would have found another way on another day if he hadn’t received effective help, so I don’t know that they were preventable.
@@tammyirwin703yup exactly…. People that commit crimes like THIS…. Have planned it out and are dead set on carrying out that plan… his parents talking him home, would have only delayed the inevitable 😓😪
@@tammyirwin703 yeah, he had the intent. However, that still could’ve been foreseen and prevented if these parents had bothered showing even an ounce of interest in their son’s inner world - if they had, they would’ve realized years ago that he was troubled, and a real intervention could’ve been made. They’re absolutely despicable and definitely culpable in this outcome.
Wrong, wrong and wrong again! Yes, this was preventable. But we're talking about parents who KNEW their son suffered from mental illness but yet, they bought him a gun. Whether or not they took him home from school is pretty irrelevant. The issue is mental illness and guns.
So I just saw that his parents bought him a gun for Christmas???? Why in the world would you buy a gun for your kid KNOWING he has mental issues? They need prison also!!!
@tadbuddi6275 The parents has no mental illnesses, she is just a very pathetic and bad parent that did not care enough to get her son help when he asked mfor it. Still, it was the shooters own decision to do these shootings.
For everyone talking about how well he's eating in prison, when he got locked up he was not a full grown man, so he's still growing, And he's on psych meds and some psych meds put a lot of weight on people.
Pity kids like him don't take out their anger/frustration on the people that are what truly let this happen just by simple neglect and selfishness, the parents.
Actually yes, parents are at fault. They friggin knew how deranged the kid was. They helped to make him that way. He told his parents that he needed help and they blew it off. His parents are also responsible for the killings.
Nothing chilling. There is a new, modern day trend of 'Judge Worshipping" going on. People have been either brainwashed or hypnotized somehow, into worshipping judges, who simply do their job, in no unusually spectacular fashion
Just soul crushing. You know if he had even a minuscule amount of help he wouldn't have done this. Clearly exhibiting remorse. What he did is unforgivable. Glad his parents are being held accountable.
My heart breaks for the families of the victims & the survivors. I cannot fathom the depths of their pain after learning their babies would not be coming home. It is a parent’s worst nightmare. May the Lord give them strength to live each day.
I wish we had Judges like this in Canada. The man is sincere, articulate and intelligent. Thank-you for keeping your community safe by imposing this sentence.
Wow Ethan really got big! I think he does sound sorry for his actions and takes full responsibility for his actions but his parents do have a lot of blame for what happened even though they didn't know he was going to do it! They didn't get him the mental help he was crying out for but instead purchased him a gun! makes no sense! I never have any pity for these crazies that shoot up schools and other institutions but Ethan was in a very bad home life upbringing (not that it excuses what he did) and doesn't change the fact that he took four lives that will never get to enjoy their lives! It's just very sad he couldn't get the help he truly needed and now will potentially live a very long life in a prison cell! Maybe the parents should get the same life sentence for creating the monster Ethan turned out to be!
The parents provided the weapons and didn’t get him help. They encouraged his thought process. And yes his meditations would have caused weight gain. Hopefully he is beginning to think like a normal person. He needs to spend the rest of his life getting to know Jesus.
Does he though? I wonder if the Freudian slip at 01:34 where he said “I want the people I’ve hurt to have a final sense of culpability” actually shows his true feelings. It could have just been an error of not knowing what it means, or maybe it’s what he truly wanted to say when he wasn’t giving an obligatory “I’m sorry” speech in hopes that his sentence would be reduced.
His parents absolutely FAILED him. This kid had NO chance. He begged for help. It doesn’t justify his actions, but MAN, all he needed was ONE adult in his life to listen to him. To talk to him. To believe him. Another life senselessly lost because of the inaction of ADULTS in his care. Those 4 gunshot victims are NEVER coming home. The others who were wounded will live forever with their trauma. Ethan will have this on his conscience forever. Just a HORRIBLE outcome overall.
I live in MI. This happened just north of Detroit. He really should stay in prison for the rest of his life. Some of these survivors were involved in the campus shooting at MSU also. They didn’t go back college after the second incident.
This judge is everything!!! What a compassionate man. Bless him and bless all the victims left in this awful tragedy. Their pain and grief is so palpable and my heart aches for everyone affected by this evilness. 😢
Why? Why do parents need to be responsible for a psycho like this? My son was murdered by a "tough guy" wannabe and he was raised in a religious, respectful home. He turned out bad. I heard how he was just a cowardly piece of street garbage. He made the decision to take a life. My God I'm sick of hearing "parents need to be responsible".
I totally agree, what parent in their right mind buys their child a weapon when they knew full well he was having issues?! 🤯 They’ll be standing trial next, charged with involuntary manslaughter
How was Crumbley's statement "chilling" His apology was sincere and substantive, and he asked the judge to satisfy the sentencing wishes of the victims' families.
Friends, families and loved ones of the dead are also victims. They will suffer the rest of their lives. Apparently, you don't care if someone you love is killed.
I do believe this happened bc of the parents lack of love and lack of attention they gave their children they def deserve life as well bc they lacked A LOT as parents
We, as a society, require people to attend classes and then pass a test before we allow them to drive, but when somebody becomes a parent we say "You'll figure it out".
Very popular to hate this kid but if I ever saw someone who was bullied relentlessly in school it was him. This poor kid was harassed until he couldn't take it anymore. His parents failed him, they should have enrolled him in a gym and had a trainer build some muscle on him or put him in a karate school but instead, the fools bought him a gun. The school failed him because they allow bullies to harass weaker kids, the school is as much to blame as anyone. I know this because I was as skinny as a death camp survivor and I was bullied at school. I thank God I didn't have access to a gun or I'd be in the same spot.
Exactly!!! I was so glad to hear the judge express that there are 2 types of deterrence, public and personal. The actions of the woke DAs and judges have shown criminals that IF there are any consequences they won't be that bad.
This judge is a credit to his profession. He is articulate, thorough, and showed Compassion to the families that were impacted by this shooter. Thank you Judge. To the families of the victims, my condolences to all of you.
The horror the victims endured and the torture of the baby birds will haunt me forever. I can’t believe the absolute nightmare - the poor humans and animals he is responsible for torturing and killing. No words.
The state of mental health care in this country is a disaster. None of this had to happen, we need to trust mental health care seriously like we do our physical health.
His parents didn’t think he needed mental health accommodations. I think that was more destructive than the weapon purchases. They thought that any talk of a mental health illness was nothing more than a fluke. Screw them for failing that child.
@@christinametal1071 exactly, he still has to pay the 60 bucks for the dna test too. what are you gonna do, make the parents of the victim shell out 60 bucks instead?
Crumbley couldn’t even say that he shot people, that he killed people - in his mind, he’s just “a bad person but he’s trying to be a better person.” Thank you, Judge. This is a sentence that completely aligns with the crime. May you be blessed all your days on the bench.
@tesstickles1280 That's that horrible county jail food. Plus, you don't do anything physical...you basically lay around all day waiting to be sentenced, and sent to prison.
I listen to other convicted defendant’s statements on other videos. They all sound the same “What I did was wrong. I am sorry. My moms and me ask for lenian-lean-uhhh, uhm-fo’gibness from da court ‘cuz I now know why it was wrong. My bad.” then off to get the ankle bracelet and a recognizance release in time for a Popeye’s discount day meal and back in court for something similar next week.
You are crazy! He pled guilty and took full responsibility. He went against his attorney’s in sentencing. I have never seen another school shooter accept responsibility like he has done.
nah he's not sorry he can't even admit he killed ppl after 2 years. he said he hurt ppl and apologized for "lying and being untrustworthy" really? we don't care that you're a liar how about saying your sorry for murdering executing traumatizing innocent ppl. his apology was weak and manipulative
01:34 “I want the people I’ve hurt to have a final sense of culpability” - Freudian slip or does he just not know the meaning of the word “culpability”?
Come on, Oxford is not a school that is famous for a proliferation of well-rounded student attendees... I would surmise he doesn't know the meaning or how to use the word in a sentence
All I want is for the people to have a final sense of culpability ?!?! 😳 1:35 then proceeds to blame himself ….🤦🏾♂️ using words incorrectly trying to sound smart 😂
So when he was arrested he was held in a jail and not convicted here he is found guilty and sentenced so they credited the time he spent in custody 8 days before he was sentenced to life Doesn’t really make sense in this case but say you were in jail for a month or even a year and sentenced to 5 years that time is credited as served. But legally it’s applied
This kid was failed by his parent. Yes, what he did was terrible, tragic, and wrong, but I believe him. I believe he understands (to the best of his ability-maybe not fully because he is still a _kid_ ) the pain he caused and the consequences of his actions. I pray he keeps his word and focuses on himself, changing, growing, and helping other people who maybe are in similar situations or before they go down the wrong path. It’s sad to know he will be in jail for the rest of his life. He did something horrible, but he had serious mental health issues, his parents simply ignored him and didn’t intervene. Just a sad story. Sad for the victims, their families, and this life that could’ve been saved had he been given help from the people (his parents) who were supposed to love and care for him. RIP to the victims of the shooting. May your spirits live on through the people who love you and were left behind. We will never forget the amazing people you were and the beautiful souls that you continue to be. I pray that their families find peace, comfort, and closure. _Do NOT jump on me for having empathy for this child. I don’t agree _*_at all_*_ with what he did, I am just glad he has realized this and will strive to do better. I hope to see that from him in the future._
I like your statement, but we need to understand that parents that sow hatred , love of firearms and violence, and feel justified in their right wing beliefs couldn't help this child. I am a hunter that believes in common sense gun control.
@@horacio-ho3bf I agree. That’s why I said “he *could’ve* been helped had he been given help from the parents that _were supposed_ to love and care for him”.
I know he was going to prison, but without parole ever, being an option is horrible. He did and still does have mental issues. I hope his parents get the same sentence as he did.
so hostile for no reason, chill tf out. even if his speech was rehearsed beforehand, he articulated himself better than some might have expected. @@Jade-902
@@Sappho123because we’ve seen how he writes, his use of grammar, his spelling as well as how he speaks. He’s practiced this many, many times with the coaching of his lawyers
This was horrible. He had gained A LOT of weight since being arrested. I wonder if that’s medication he might need on? He deserves life in prison. I like this judge too.
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This judge was phenomenal. He doesn’t play. Honest, sympathetic and tough.
How is it possible they're using cameras this bad in 2023?
I know it looks like a video from the early 2000s
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Like someone found an old vhs!😜
It's because it was over Zoom. The judge is not really there in the room.
My Motorola Razr from the early 2000’s had better video quality.
Why is that courtroom using a camcorder from 1988?
Because I'm looking like what year was this again 🤣😂
America is now a third world country
More like 1855
Government....
Its Michigan they can't afford jack s***. Ever been to Detroit, there is your answer.
Tragic. He now realizes the extent of the consequences left by his actions. Kids, this kind of stuff is no joke.
No he doesn't.
@@kathysmith793Exactly. He’s just saying what he was told to say.
@@JamieReynolds89 No...this was a child failed by his parents. The video I saw of him when he was 10 showed empathy for homeless people. He is on medication for mental illness thus the weight gain.
@@kathysmith793he's just been sentenced to 4+x his entire lifetime in prison, he doesn't yet but he will in 20-30 years.
You think telling someone who thinks this is something to joke about is going to change their polluted mind. They would have to be heartless arrogant and ignorant no way someone like that listens to others opinions. It’s truly sad
This judge is absolutely eloquent in his discourse. Awesome judge!!!
Well stated ! TOUCHE’
He looks so young. Wise beyond his years.
Oh boy!!! ANOTHER victim of the modern day trend of 'Judge Worshipping'
Except for one teeny weenie little problem. That judge gave him life without parole. He can't do life without parole because the Supreme Court ruled that with adolescents, because of the underdeveloped brain, it constitutes cruel and unusual punishment and therefore violates the 8th amendment. I think this judge was just setting himself up for appeal. Or he was deliberately defying the Supreme Court
@@retroguy9494 i dont think he was underaged for that statement actually, i believe he was an adult.
That was not a "chilling" statement. We've heard actual horrible things out of the mouths of other convicted. Judge is fantastic.
Maybe they meant The Judge giving a chilling statement? I was confused too and YES, that judge was about his business!
they can’t possibly be referring to that wilted word salad as “chilling.”
BONE CHILLING
@@Sp00kyQueen know what I want
@@astara6524 ?
Whatever therapy/meds that have been implemented in the past 2 years apparently is working. Breaks my heart that his parents couldnt be bothered over the years to do the same for him.
We have to remember that at the end of the day, Ethan goes to prison and the grieving victims of this horrific crime go home with a hole forever missing from their heart. Their grief, sadness, anger, PTSD, doesn’t going away. These are real people who are living their worst nightmare while everyone’s life continues to go on. I hope we take a moment to realize the depth of their sorrows and pray that the victims never become another statistic and forgotten. My sincere condolences.
Please tell us how your magical prayers work. Tell us how you telepathically communicate with an invisible god I would love to hear that.
@@Randy58-zn4ez Jesus loves you
Here is another idea for you. Why don't those 'grieving victims' do something POSITIVE instead of focusing on that sadness and anger? Like advocating for change in this country as to how we handle mental illness? Because no matter what anyone says, at the end of the day it was mental illness that caused this tragedy.
Around 80% of these incidents are the result of mentally ill people and probably 90% were preventable because the mentally ill showed SIGNS of their illness. It's just that no one cared enough to try to get them help.
Yes but if by some breeze of imagination he will serve 1000 years in prison alive and dead. He's proof that some humans should not be free to walk among others. Their thinking is not even animalistic its demonic. An animal kills to eat he killed for what reason?????? His excuses dont make sense. The world feels this pain. From way across the globe i feel the pain and fear of all the victims.
@@retroguy9494 Daft gun culture too.
This judge was thorough and fair. Great job Judge! Rest peacefully to the victims and my heart goes out to the families.
Is.... is taking accountability the new definition of chilling?
In this world.... yes.
@@illdoitwhenpigsflyl agree with you
Apparently, accountability is not in today's society unfortunately.
No, they’re just trying to get views.
I agree that it wasn’t “chilling”, especially compared to the actions that he’s on trial for, but calling himself a “bad person” when that’s obviously a gigantic understatement isn’t really being accountable. He knew he was going to get life regardless. He was just trying to save face. In order for him to take responsibility for his actions, he would’ve had to say much worse things about himself and even ask for the DP. That would be true accountability. An eye for an eye. Or in this case…an eye for four eyes
“Bad person” doesn’t begin to describe the consequences of his actions and his general character. I think I might be a “bad person” sometimes and I would never dream of doing anything remotely close to what he did to those poor innocent kids. RIP to the victims
Of COURSE you wouldn't dream of it. Neither would I. Because we aren't mentally ill. Ethan DOES suffer from mental illness. He's not a bad person. He's just sick.
If you want to talk about who the 'bad persons' are, they would be his parents. Because they KNEW he was mentally ill but yet they bought him a gun. That's why they are on trial for manslaughter.
There’s plenty of mentally ill people that don’t go on shooting sprees and I’m sure that some of them have access to a gun because there’s more guns than people in this country. That’s no excuse
The parents are obviously evil people too that clearly deserve tons of blame in this
@mattg6390 i agree and its the good vs evil in this world we live in
That judge is awesome, he was even tempered, polite, asked each side for input, no ego, sympathetic to the victims and seemed very thorough.
As a Michigan resident this judge represented the state and these families so well. Chills. Rest- everyone. Justice is served.
thx hun
The state wasn’t sentenced. Ethan sentenced these parents and families to life sentences.
Huh? I never said the state was sentenced. That makes it sound like I’m playing off a tragedy making it my own- or about Michigan instead of families. no. I said the lawyers representing the state did a good job….? But yes Ethan gave MANY people a life sentence that day. Many.
WOW. Well, he said give him the sentence the victims families want him to get. This judge made sure he’ll never be released and will serve LIFE. His statement was honest and chilling and proves he would be a danger to society.
Yea, well, that's simply not true. That judge gave him life without parole. He can't do life without parole because the Supreme Court ruled that with adolescents, because of the underdeveloped brain, it constitutes cruel and unusual punishment and therefore violates the 8th amendment. They HAVE to let him out at some point. I don't know it that judge was just setting himself up for appeal or if he deliberately violated a Supreme Court ruling.
@@retroguy9494I thought that was the reason for the Miller Hearing they had 😳
@@AuntCathyPooh Yes, you're right. It was the reason for the Miller hearing. But the judge during the hearing should have set the minimum number of years he would have to do BEFORE being granted a parole hearing. Just like they did a couple weeks ago with those two kids who murdered the Spanish teacher.
He still can't serve life. Miller clearly stated that. Two years ago in 2021 SCOTUS upheld Miller in Jones v. Mississippi when Kavanaugh wrote “youth matters in sentencing. As such, mandatory life without parole sentences remain unconstitutional for youth."
Terrorism charges likely strips people of their amendment rights
@@retroguy9494 “life” is generally 15 to 25 years (mandatory), before parole?
Also, looked it up and “A few countries allow for a minor to be given a life sentence without parole; these include but are not limited to: Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina (only over the age of 16),[7] Australia, Belize, Brunei, Cuba, Dominica, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, the Solomon Islands, Sri Lanka, and the United States.”
This should never have happened. We need to do better with getting mental healthcare for broken kids.
Parents need to do better to. Parents should be held accounts for the children they raise.
Absolutely right. People need to understand that mental illness IS a thing, and some kids ARE broken. This won’t stop until we fix our mental healthcare system. It just won’t.
Best Judge I have ever heard, concise and smart, etc. I wish all Judge were similar.
Ridiculous
These were truly preventable murders had the parents taken him home like the school asked them to and they said no
I agree with your comment to a certain degree that if his parents would’ve taken him home, it just wouldn’t of happened that day. I truly believe this child was going to do what he was going to do whether it was on the 30th or another day.
His parents should definitely have taken him home that day & should have gotten help for him long before that day, but this wasn’t the act of a single moment. This took planning of months & he would have found another way on another day if he hadn’t received effective help, so I don’t know that they were preventable.
@@tammyirwin703yup exactly…. People that commit crimes like THIS…. Have planned it out and are dead set on carrying out that plan… his parents talking him home, would have only delayed the inevitable 😓😪
@@tammyirwin703 yeah, he had the intent. However, that still could’ve been foreseen and prevented if these parents had bothered showing even an ounce of interest in their son’s inner world - if they had, they would’ve realized years ago that he was troubled, and a real intervention could’ve been made. They’re absolutely despicable and definitely culpable in this outcome.
Wrong, wrong and wrong again! Yes, this was preventable. But we're talking about parents who KNEW their son suffered from mental illness but yet, they bought him a gun. Whether or not they took him home from school is pretty irrelevant. The issue is mental illness and guns.
This boy was BEGGING for help. He knows full well what he did and I hope he knows his parents failed him.
Amen
Ts so bold it really brakes my heart so bad
He didn't beg for help he said to lock him up....aree you deaf
@@shreddabgofficialomg, he means before! Before it Happened. Duh.🙄
He never straight up said what he was planning. Not to anyone who cared.
So I just saw that his parents bought him a gun for Christmas???? Why in the world would you buy a gun for your kid KNOWING he has mental issues? They need prison also!!!
That's why they're on trial for manslaughter.
They got prison time as well... The parents have mental issues too if they bring him a gun knowing he had mental issues
@@tadbuddi6275 No they didn't. At least not yet. The parents trial is not set to begin until January 23rd. Then we shall see.
They didn’t get anything yet. No verdicts.
@tadbuddi6275 The parents has no mental illnesses, she is just a very pathetic and bad parent that did not care enough to get her son help when he asked mfor it. Still, it was the shooters own decision to do these shootings.
For everyone talking about how well he's eating in prison, when he got locked up he was not a full grown man, so he's still growing, And he's on psych meds and some psych meds put a lot of weight on people.
Hey, look on the bright side, you got credit for 8 days served
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Parents are to blame! 100% He became responsible in the care of the justice system, not the care of his parents. Disgusting!
Truth.
They are in prison awaiting trial on involuntary manslaughter. They will do some serious time too.
Not 100%. He is not blameless.
Not 100% to blame. But definitely the vast majority! Awful excuses for parents, this kid was set up to fail.
The craziest thing is, if you do a little digging, the parents tried to flee to Canada after he got caught, they knew and didn’t care!
Pity kids like him don't take out their anger/frustration on the people that are what truly let this happen just by simple neglect and selfishness, the parents.
This is exactly why people shouldn't go around encouraging or pressuring everyone to have kids.
@@ATChick, exactly, too many people don't deserve children.
@@ATChickYes! I agree.
soo... you're saying he should have killed his parents?
@@spooky_action, sounds that way 🤯
This is one judge who doesn't seem to have a massive ego and will actually listen and consider other people's perspectives. Very smart man.
Actually yes, parents are at fault. They friggin knew how deranged the kid was. They helped to make him that way. He told his parents that he needed help and they blew it off. His parents are also responsible for the killings.
yup exactly.
10:58 loved the way the judge put that. Knew he was going to get life as soon as the judge said that.
This judge is fair, he even credited him for 8 days served after each life sentence! and don't forget, "no parole"!
Credit is statutorily required. The judge had to give credit. And no parole is also statutorily required for first degree murder in Michigan.
This dude added an extra 150 pounds since he was arrested
I noticed that, too.
Protein Injections while in county....
Shows how much h of a child he really was at the time.
He had a bullet proof vest on under his shirt.
@@phoenixzero-me7rvwhy protein injections?
What was "chilling" about his statement?
Absolutely nothing
I don’t think they were talking about what Ethan said. I think they were referring to what the judge said before handing down his sentence.
Nothing chilling. There is a new, modern day trend of 'Judge Worshipping" going on. People have been either brainwashed or hypnotized somehow, into worshipping judges, who simply do their job, in no unusually spectacular fashion
The part were you, and/ or others, got clickbaited into clicking this BS
@@RileyBanksWho 🤣 so true
Just soul crushing. You know if he had even a minuscule amount of help he wouldn't have done this. Clearly exhibiting remorse. What he did is unforgivable. Glad his parents are being held accountable.
My heart breaks for the families of the victims & the survivors. I cannot fathom the depths of their pain after learning their babies would not be coming home. It is a parent’s worst nightmare. May the Lord give them strength to live each day.
I wish we had Judges like this in Canada. The man is sincere, articulate and intelligent. Thank-you for keeping your community safe by imposing this sentence.
Gained a lot of weight in prison
He has a dahmer tone.
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And a John Wayne Gacy physical appearance.
If Dahmer and Gacy procreated
@@Nat-lb5gqabortion
That's exactly what I was thinking!
Wow Ethan really got big! I think he does sound sorry for his actions and takes full responsibility for his actions but his parents do have a lot of blame for what happened even though they didn't know he was going to do it! They didn't get him the mental help he was crying out for but instead purchased him a gun! makes no sense! I never have any pity for these crazies that shoot up schools and other institutions but Ethan was in a very bad home life upbringing (not that it excuses what he did) and doesn't change the fact that he took four lives that will never get to enjoy their lives! It's just very sad he couldn't get the help he truly needed and now will potentially live a very long life in a prison cell! Maybe the parents should get the same life sentence for creating the monster Ethan turned out to be!
It's those antipsychotics he is most certainly on
The parents provided the weapons and didn’t get him help. They encouraged his thought process. And yes his meditations would have caused weight gain. Hopefully he is beginning to think like a normal person. He needs to spend the rest of his life getting to know Jesus.
Does he though? I wonder if the Freudian slip at 01:34 where he said “I want the people I’ve hurt to have a final sense of culpability” actually shows his true feelings. It could have just been an error of not knowing what it means, or maybe it’s what he truly wanted to say when he wasn’t giving an obligatory “I’m sorry” speech in hopes that his sentence would be reduced.
@@FourHuskyHomesteadbecause no one has ever hurt or killed people in the name of Jesus 🙄
like stauch 'you looked humongus'
His parents absolutely FAILED him. This kid had NO chance. He begged for help. It doesn’t justify his actions, but MAN, all he needed was ONE adult in his life to listen to him. To talk to him. To believe him. Another life senselessly lost because of the inaction of ADULTS in his care. Those 4 gunshot victims are NEVER coming home. The others who were wounded will live forever with their trauma. Ethan will have this on his conscience forever. Just a HORRIBLE outcome overall.
That jail food seems to agree with this monster.
Don’t u mean prison? Still food is food
No jail. That's where he's been all this time; he just got sentenced to prison today.
Or maybe he barely ever got fed before jail. Prisoners eat 3 meals a day in this economy and act like victims
Well he knows he will never be homeless
Medication will make you gain weight like that especially during puberty.
I live in MI. This happened just north of Detroit. He really should stay in prison for the rest of his life. Some of these survivors were involved in the campus shooting at MSU also. They didn’t go back college after the second incident.
This judge is everything!!! What a compassionate man. Bless him and bless all the victims left in this awful tragedy. Their pain and grief is so palpable and my heart aches for everyone affected by this evilness. 😢
Parents should be liable as well!!!
Why? Why do parents need to be responsible for a psycho like this? My son was murdered by a "tough guy" wannabe and he was raised in a religious, respectful home. He turned out bad. I heard how he was just a cowardly piece of street garbage. He made the decision to take a life. My God I'm sick of hearing "parents need to be responsible".
@@dragonflysurgeoncuz ur probably a bad parent
I totally agree, what parent in their right mind buys their child a weapon when they knew full well he was having issues?! 🤯 They’ll be standing trial next, charged with involuntary manslaughter
His parents are in jail. Their trial is scheduled to begin in January.
@@horvathsogranfume658 bad parent because his kid was murdered???
How did the school not check his back back?……
How was Crumbley's statement "chilling" His apology was sincere and substantive, and he asked the judge to satisfy the sentencing wishes of the victims' families.
He said nothing anyone did would have stopped him.
@@hiddenhand6973very chilling 🫠
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If the boy was colored would you still have said the same thing?
@@BigSneedTheLandlord Depends. Which color?
👏🏾 for the judge that actually loves his job to recognize those impact statements respect
Nothing the monster says brings any solace to the poor victims 😢
Agree 💯
Friends, families and loved ones of the dead are also victims. They will suffer the rest of their lives. Apparently, you don't care if someone you love is killed.
people are religious, might as well believe in santa claus and other snake oil
so stop bs-ing
@bobvaldez8986bad choice?..sounds like he bought the wrong sandwich..He's a cold calculating murderer.
@bobvaldez8986 That's your opinion. He's still a despicable monster though.
I've never seen a judge use a highlighter during sentencing.
He had a lot to cover and get on record. He needed to keep track of what he was saying so he didn’t miss anything.
I do believe this happened bc of the parents lack of love and lack of attention they gave their children they def deserve life as well bc they lacked A LOT as parents
We, as a society, require people to attend classes and then pass a test before we allow them to drive, but when somebody becomes a parent we say "You'll figure it out".
Parents responsible for this one. Many young weak men being raised these days are committing these crimes. Parents are not involved anymore.
Very popular to hate this kid but if I ever saw someone who was bullied relentlessly in school it was him. This poor kid was harassed until he couldn't take it anymore. His parents failed him, they should have enrolled him in a gym and had a trainer build some muscle on him or put him in a karate school but instead, the fools bought him a gun. The school failed him because they allow bullies to harass weaker kids, the school is as much to blame as anyone. I know this because I was as skinny as a death camp survivor and I was bullied at school. I thank God I didn't have access to a gun or I'd be in the same spot.
He wasn't bullied, but he was mentally ill
once again thank you judge, now if only da's and other judges would have your fortitude we might be able to stop such bullshiff
Exactly!!! I was so glad to hear the judge express that there are 2 types of deterrence, public and personal. The actions of the woke DAs and judges have shown criminals that IF there are any consequences they won't be that bad.
@@jo3608l agree with you
This judge is a credit to his profession. He is articulate, thorough, and showed
Compassion to the families that were impacted by this shooter.
Thank you Judge.
To the families of the victims, my condolences to all of you.
You are nuts.....and another victim of the modern day trend of 'Judge Worshipping'
great judge, refreshing to see stern strict rulings.
The horror the victims endured and the torture of the baby birds will haunt me forever. I can’t believe the absolute nightmare - the poor humans and animals he is responsible for torturing and killing. No words.
The state of mental health care in this country is a disaster. None of this had to happen, we need to trust mental health care seriously like we do our physical health.
This judge is commendable in his address
1:34 he wants his victims to have “a final sense of culpability?? I’m hoping he just worded that incorrectly and meant ‘culpability’ on his part
This judge for president!
This judge for the Supreme Court!
His parents didn’t think he needed mental health accommodations. I think that was more destructive than the weapon purchases. They thought that any talk of a mental health illness was nothing more than a fluke. Screw them for failing that child.
Wow what a studied judge! He did a thorough job of reading all files, summing up the case and not missing a beat.
Excellent Judge! Very well said, the details. Restitution needs to be huge.
That statement is not chilling. The crime itself was. The video title is completely misleading.
Chilling statements. The Judge was brilliant in this case with his execution of justice and court surmation. Such a distressing and emotional case.
The judge is so graceful
What a terribly sad case.
After the life sentence without parole, what's the point of sentencing him to two years for illegal possession of a firearm?😂😂😂
standard procedures can't be ignored even if they seem pointless
@@christinametal1071 exactly, he still has to pay the 60 bucks for the dna test too. what are you gonna do, make the parents of the victim shell out 60 bucks instead?
Crumbley couldn’t even say that he shot people, that he killed people - in his mind, he’s just “a bad person but he’s trying to be a better person.”
Thank you, Judge. This is a sentence that completely aligns with the crime. May you be blessed all your days on the bench.
Exactly! I noticed that too. He could only say “what I did”
This kid thought he would get 25 years and be out again.
He really thought he had planned out
1985 called, they want thier Court room cameras back.
Great judge! Rip to all the loses ...God bless their families
Parents of the shooter: You completely failed at your job. Shame on you.
Didn't know Morticia was a lawyer
The parents gave the 15yo a 9mm. They should be charged for that.
They were and convicted
Great judge sentenced him to life in prison this stuff is taken seriously
The brain of a child. Diminished capacity no doubt.
That wasn't "chilling", Law & Crime Network should stop click baiting and stick to the basic headline.
How is he that big eating prison food?
@tesstickles1280 Prison food is starchy and high carbohydrate filled. If prisoners eat much at all, they usually put on the pounds.
I think he is wearing a bullet proof vest.
@@lisas8244could be meds he’s taking as well
@tesstickles1280 That's that horrible county jail food. Plus, you don't do anything physical...you basically lay around all day waiting to be sentenced, and sent to prison.
@@franklinterrell9392 precisely. and he could be on psych meds, which some result in easy weight gain
Now for the parents conviction...
They were both convicted
Video looks like it was recorded with a potato
Great Judge. I have no words 💔
I have some 4 or five letter words for Ethan, by I would get attacked by UA-cam if I said it
I have some words You are another victim of the modern day trend of 'Judge Worshipping'...Judge did job adequately. Nothing special
Glad this Judge did the right thing and didn’t fall for his statement.
I listen to other convicted defendant’s statements on other videos. They all sound the same “What I did was wrong. I am sorry. My moms and me ask for lenian-lean-uhhh, uhm-fo’gibness from da court ‘cuz I now know why it was wrong. My bad.” then off to get the ankle bracelet and a recognizance release in time for a Popeye’s discount day meal and back in court for something similar next week.
@@345mrse calm down David Duke
why was this recorded from a 1980's camcorder
You either choose the good road or the bad road in life,if you choose the bad road then justice will take you down.
He said the same thing as Nicholas Cruz at his point during his trial!!!
The chilling part is it is not sincere, he is trying to get 25 years when it should be for life or killed.
Exactly... all of his statement was clearly manipulative in order to get parole and do it all over again imo.
You are crazy! He pled guilty and took full responsibility. He went against his attorney’s in sentencing. I have never seen another school shooter accept responsibility like he has done.
nah he's not sorry he can't even admit he killed ppl after 2 years. he said he hurt ppl and apologized for "lying and being untrustworthy" really? we don't care that you're a liar how about saying your sorry for murdering executing traumatizing innocent ppl. his apology was weak and manipulative
If it wasn't sincere, why did he willfully except any punishment the judge would give him? I believe that he was sincere.
In Michigan first degree murder is automatically a life without parole sentence.
01:34 “I want the people I’ve hurt to have a final sense of culpability” - Freudian slip or does he just not know the meaning of the word “culpability”?
Guess he meant closure
I think he means his own culpability. The statement was almost certainly written by his attorney.
Come on, Oxford is not a school that is famous for a proliferation of well-rounded student attendees... I would surmise he doesn't know the meaning or how to use the word in a sentence
What is chilling about his statement?? An apology is chilling?? His apology seemed sincere.
Really, you actually believe he is sincere? 🤣
@@Ryannthatgirl He's not a human like "everyone else", everyone else doesn't kill innocent children. grow up.
@@Ryannthatgirl😂😂😂
@@Ryannthatgirl Yes, yes you are. Glad you have some self insight to recognize your madness.
Just wait until they find out what prison 😂
All I want is for the people to have a final sense of culpability ?!?! 😳 1:35 then proceeds to blame himself ….🤦🏾♂️ using words incorrectly trying to sound smart 😂
I noticed that. His statement felt very contrived. It was not well written.
This whole thing is terrible. I blame his parents.
Everyone wants to blame parents, he isn’t a baby he knew it was wrong and took accountability as he should have.
@@Trysaratophis parents are garbage, that's why
was he this big before?has medication made him get big?..or prison food?..he's very articulate anyway
Omg that's what I was thinking like who is that
He is wearing a shock/restraint belt under his shirt.
He has a protective vest on it appears. Like someone would pull a Jack Ruby on him. However, his face does look markedly fuller.
Puberty
Huh? Articulate? 😂 His comments are just big word salad.
"Life without the possibility of parole, credit for 5 days served." How does that work?
So when he was arrested he was held in a jail and not convicted here he is found guilty and sentenced so they credited the time he spent in custody 8 days before he was sentenced to life
Doesn’t really make sense in this case but say you were in jail for a month or even a year and sentenced to 5 years that time is credited as served. But legally it’s applied
Thank you, Judge Rowe.
This kid was failed by his parent. Yes, what he did was terrible, tragic, and wrong, but I believe him. I believe he understands (to the best of his ability-maybe not fully because he is still a _kid_ ) the pain he caused and the consequences of his actions. I pray he keeps his word and focuses on himself, changing, growing, and helping other people who maybe are in similar situations or before they go down the wrong path. It’s sad to know he will be in jail for the rest of his life. He did something horrible, but he had serious mental health issues, his parents simply ignored him and didn’t intervene. Just a sad story. Sad for the victims, their families, and this life that could’ve been saved had he been given help from the people (his parents) who were supposed to love and care for him.
RIP to the victims of the shooting. May your spirits live on through the people who love you and were left behind. We will never forget the amazing people you were and the beautiful souls that you continue to be. I pray that their families find peace, comfort, and closure.
_Do NOT jump on me for having empathy for this child. I don’t agree _*_at all_*_ with what he did, I am just glad he has realized this and will strive to do better. I hope to see that from him in the future._
I like your statement, but we need to understand that parents that sow hatred , love of firearms and violence, and feel justified in their right wing beliefs couldn't help this child. I am a hunter that believes in common sense gun control.
@@horacio-ho3bf I agree. That’s why I said “he *could’ve* been helped had he been given help from the parents that _were supposed_ to love and care for him”.
I know he was going to prison, but without parole ever, being an option is horrible. He did and still does have mental issues. I hope his parents get the same sentence as he did.
@@the3meadows694 Agreed. 💯%!!
I want to thank you for more or less rational approach. We do need to not be children ourselves and see the entire complexity of the situation.
I wish this would all just STOP
Me too :(
Live and let live, it is so simple yet continually violated.
Where was the "chilling" part?
He did seey am sorry l need to go to jail he kow he did bad thing
the words themselves were not chilling the delivery seemed flat and emotionless.
He is more well spoken than I would of thought. We need to pray for him & the victims and their families. 💔
@mjmartinez3244 this was a well written speech that has been practiced many times. Use your God given brain.
so hostile for no reason, chill tf out. even if his speech was rehearsed beforehand, he articulated himself better than some might have expected. @@Jade-902
Not at all. He used words blatantly wrong at least two times...
No
@@Sappho123because we’ve seen how he writes, his use of grammar, his spelling as well as how he speaks. He’s practiced this many, many times with the coaching of his lawyers
Be mad all u want but I feel bad for this kid...he needed help and never even got recognized
Heartbreaking
This was horrible. He had gained A LOT of weight since being arrested. I wonder if that’s medication he might need on? He deserves life in prison. I like this judge too.
Somebody, somewhere (may even have a fan club) is pouring money into commissary.
"Chilling" is a little over the top. Perhaps a better description would be "lacking remorse", "emotionally inept", or "out of touch with reality".