If The Bucks And Celtics Go To War, Who Loses?
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Bucks or Celtics? Who you got?
Bucks easy 🤨if Tatum is on the team he’s going to mess it up for them. Tatum is a big reason the dubs have ring #4 from all of his bricks.
personally i think its the bucks because the celtics have been sometimes inconsistent when it matters most
The nuggets are once again, somehow, an underdog. They will repeat.
Celtics Ik the lost depth and chemistry but so did the Bucks they have the best starting 5 hands done the only way the lose is if they don’t have KP
Bucks Tatum & brown don't= a championship. Neither of them have developed the mental toughness it takes. Pressure makes diamonds or dust so far they have been the latter.
Saying Tatum isn’t reliable in the playoffs is actually a ridiculous statement
When this guy isn't being bias towards the warriors, he actually has really good ball knowledge.
Fucking fax
Dude I was thinking the same thing
I only come here to here him praise the warriors lol
He wasn't wrong when he predicted they'd win 2 yrs ago... from the beginning of the season!
@@kennethnoriega9355 i mean if he predicts the same team every season, it's not an accomplishment
The celtics are a great team, but i think the killer instincts of Giannis and Lilliard are going to carry them. Giannis knows what its like to rise to the very top and is keener than ever to get there, and Lilliard's always wanted a decent chance at a ring. That combination is going to be very tough for anyone to beat, and I just don't think Tatum has the mentality to beat that.
True
I think that's what people are forgetting about lillard this is what he wanted(a real chance at at title)and this is best case scenario so he's going to do everything possible to make this year one his best of all
Hahahahahaha 😂
Who needs a therapist when u know NBA fans that’ll break down the flaws of ur mentality 🤡
Notice you said only Tatum like Brown an the rest isn’t there Jaylen is also there
I’m so sick of ppl saying Jrue locked up Lillard on his own like Rondo and Anthony Davis had nothing to do with that
Derrick white=Rondo
KP and AL somewhat provide the same level of defense combined as AD
@@ejp507shut up, you're clearly a Celtics homer and know nothing. Horford is gonna get blown by. KP will be injured.
@@ejp507 no way you think KP and Horford equates to the same defensive impact as prime AD Lol. And no Derrick white is not on the same defensive level as rondo wtf lol
They literally trapped the shit out of dame every single play because Nurkic couldn’t do anything out of the short roll 4 on 3. If Nurkic was giannis in that series the pelicans and holiday would’ve got smoked and dame would’ve ate against holiday. Nothing you can do when you get trapped and blitzed and your teammates can’t make them pay. Dame did his job that series Nurkic is the main reason they lost
The ceiling for Bucks is definitely high on paper, that Dame and Giannis games complement each other so well they could unlock things out of each other that we have not seen before. If Khris is back to 90% before his injury he would be the scariest third option in the NBA.
Either way though I think Bucks and Celtics are pretty much locked first and second seed in the east. We have two actual championship contender with the rest of the east in another tier (unless we see some of the young teams see breakouts)
@@mezzb I guess I am not too high on the Unicorn on the Celtics
That Holiday VS Lillard stat means so little at this current day in age. Lillard has improved much offensively, and if he had a team like Milwaukee, or a big man like Giannis he wouldn't have even been out in those measly situations. I can accept Jrue is an elite defender but we all know the scoop on him.
Does this mean anything: Lillard under 50% eFG in the playoffs, yikes that's really bad for a player of his caliber. That's even worse than Harden, the biggest superstar playoff choker in the history of the NBA.
@jayc3715 that's only 1 playoff run and since then he's actually done very well in the playoffs
@@jayc3715facts
@@jayc3715 tbh, Jrue is even worse in the 2 last playoffs, both offensively and defensively. The guy turned into an Eric Bletsoe liability after the championship run. Sure, he plays well in regular season but no one cares about that.
@@nikos731not to mentioned he got his soul took by butler . And wanted to retire in 2 years. He can take slow half court offense to Boston.
Middleton is hardly a celtics-killer. A game winner and a few good games doesn't mean he consistently beats them, and in fact last year the bucks had one of their worst losses is franchise history against the Celtics, with Middleton on the floor. That combined with his injury history doesn't give me much confidence. To the point of Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown, Arenas shouldn't be talking being one of the least disciplined players ever. Plus, the Cs have made it to the finals and have consistently gotten to the ecf, apart from their finals year the Bucks can't stay the same and Dame has heavily faltered as the playoffs go on. Not saying I'd take the Celtics 100%, but half the info here is entirely nitpicked to make an argument around the bucks winning.
Bucks have proved they can get it done and win. Celtics are yet to prove that
Celtices proved 17 times lol
Ok… Took Giannis until his 8th season to finally win his 1st ring. Tatum and Brown are on their 7th and 8th season. So tired of dumb fans ignoring the fact that Tatum and Brown are still young. Oh and it took 8 seasons for the Joker to finally win a title too.
@@vikashnaga7529 what does that have to do with their current team
I didnt see the Bucks proving it with Bledsoe back then. Tell me the name of the PG they acquired when they made their championship run again?
@@vikashnaga7529 you genuinely can't be that dense. Or nvm if you're joking
It depends on Middleton for the Bucks, Celts can defend Dame and they will double Giannis. Middleton will make those two open of he can be healthy and consistent.
Jrue on dame, AL and Tatum double on giannis, brown causing havoc with middleton and porzingis on lopez. And if any wing get in foul trouble white comes in
Those are exactly the matchups Milwaukee wants.
The killer instinct is everything against amazing teams.
If they double Giannis that leaves somebody wide open... that's the problem. Double Giannis? Dame can kill you from the outside. Don't let that one playoff series against the Pelicans sway you, the head to head stats are out there. Dame averages 26 points and 6 assists vs. Jrue in his career. That's far from containing somebody.
No one can guard giannis and dame. You have to double up on both. So dame had a bad series against holiday, giannis had bad playoff performances against the heat for 2 seasons. Don’t let that fool you. Tim Duncan lost against an 8th seed in the playoffs, shit happens. Bucks have the best duo cause you have to guard them from half court. Dame has range and giannis is a beast in the paint
I love how he used Gilbert Arenas to back up his bias even though historically Gilbert doesn’t no shit.
Gilbirt arenas often have stupid take that can all be agree on but he isn’t wrong about the Celtics why the heck did they lose to the heat and the hawks series took way longer than necessary but they were considered to be the superior team woth more death and talent yet the hawks won two games the heat beat them inspite of being the 8 seed to the heat credits they did beat the bucks too but i think it was more the bucks coach fault really though the tatum injury was also a major reason why the heat win
Grant Williams one of their teammates also said the same thing. And if you remember how Tatum played in the finals it doesn't look like he shows up
As if the Bucks also didn't lose to the Heat full of undrafted players
With Giannis being the best in the world, with no solution for his matchup, with his work ethic, his motivation, and his desire to win, and with Dame opening the court and closing out games as he does, with Khris having so many opportunities because of the others two double teams, with Crawder being the tough defender we all remember, with Brook being the rim protector he is, with Marjon wanting to prove he deserves to be their starting shooting guard, having a new coach and a different approach, with the excitement in Milwaukee skyrocketed, i don't give Celtics more than 10% to win the series.
The Bucks have recently done it and they know how to do it again.
Giannis is the leader they needed and Dame is the missing piece for them to contend for years to come.
Winning the ring won't be easy because there are many great teams in the league,like Denver first and foremost, Boston, Lakers, Warriors, Phoenix and many more getting better and better as the season progresses, but eventually what will make the difference is the desire to go and get that ring, and in my mind there isn't a better duo than Giannis and Dame in the league.
As a Bucks fan i couldn't be more excited for the season upon us!
And it's gonna be the most competitive league since the Warriors dynasty back in '18!
jokic > giannis rn. jokic already all time great passer and can run the offense like no other. his defense is not lacking either
The healthier team will win. Both sides have injury prone players like Middleton & KP (although he played 60+ games last year). Also Jrue and Dame are older by around 5 years now since the Pelicans-Blazers series, who knows how that matchup will play out.
W take. If by some chance they both are I think it goes 7 and comes down to the last seconds.
True but although KP played more games and was healthier last season, he's far more injury prone than Middleton tbh. Last season was really only Middleton's first big injury in over 5 years. I am very curious to see how the dame Jrue matchup will go. It definitely can't be as bad as 2018 because he has actual help now to take some attention away but I can't tell how much better it will go for dame because both of the Celtics guards are all defense level
What was KP supposed to do in the playoffs when Carlisle told him to just camp the corner, defy his coach to put up better stats? It also should be noted the "Celtics Killer" isn't exactly healthy right now. He might turn out to be OK, but knee injuries in the NBA for players north of 30 are no joke.
The Celtics biggest killer is their star players shrinking in the biggest games.
@@ThorGodofThunder420biggest games against the bucks Tatum gave the Bucks 46 on their home court 🤡
i laughed at the celtic killer thing, but ngl it's absolutely true. Middleton is no joke whenever he plays the celtics.
@@ThorGodofThunder420just like how Giannis shrunk this past playoffs?
@@paulostatic8497he played like two games lol
Was honestly waiting for him to explain how the Golden State Warriors win this match up.
He did in another video. The bucks and Celtics go 7 games and wear each other out, the warriors have a less formidable opponent waiting for them.
The Celtics have the best top 6 in all of basketball right now so I’m going with them.
They've had the most talented roster in the league for how many years now?
@@michaelyeboah7789they’re not getting worse, each year the two jays get better and because of that so does the team. Why would that trend go in the opposite direction as they’re entering their primes?
even tho it’s preseason the deeper part of the bench has been impressive as well the depth isnt as bad as people are making it out to be
I actually love the Celts' full rotation. Despite not running short rotations they still dominate. They have two of the league's best two-way guards in Jrue Holiday and Derrick White alongside the NBA's best two-way wing in Jayson Tatum and a great scorer (albeit bad handler and playoff choker) in Jaylen Brown. KP and Horford also looks good for the rotation where the 5 is concerned. However, what in the world is KP doing with Lopez and Giannis down low on either side? On the flipside, what is Lopez doing with KP coming off a screen on the perimeter? Both teams have questions..I can't see Milwaukee beating Boston in a series rn just bc the Celts can rain threes and make it lopsided from the onset. I don't see Milwaukee winning enough games to luck into Boston having an off night in a game 7. I would take BOS in 6 atm
This isn’t the same Dame he finally is in a system that’ll allow him to work at max eff. This season finna be crazy Giannis doesn’t need the ball to be great he’s a different breed and the celts are looking great this year imo and the west is as tough as ever
Agree with you, it's the Bucks! But the games must be played >> I've been surprised before 😂🙌
Brown and Tatum are 2 guys who do not compliment each other. Their combination is a + while stars who compliment each other are a multiplication
IMO Giannis would be the best player in the series, and Dame would be the most clutch player in the series. Hard to beat
My money would be on Boston because of the speed and athleticism the j‘s give you on the counter attack.
Mark my words Tatum will average 35+ and brown 30+ Points against the Bucks (if they meet in the playoffs)!!!!
They averaged like 71 pts combined as a duo the two games they played and destroyed the bucks in last season. People talk about Giannis so much and dame but fail to realize that the bucks never have an answer for the jays, now you add two more scoring threats in Jrue and especially KP to the already #2 offense in the league. How are they possibly going to stop the C’s offense.
@@ejp507because they have a janitor for a head coach. You guys should just get a room and hook up, couple shamrock tattoo fahggs
@@ejp507 two way street, you guys have no answer for Giannis
Tatum averaged 40 last season vs Milwaukee and they got worse on defense
Yea bucks got worse on defense
Meh, they led the league in defensive rating 2 year in a row before Holiday was even traded to the Bucks
@@kayanbrice8771 dame can’t play defense
@@Dachoseone2546and yet as I said they had the number one defense 2 years running before holiday put on a bucks jersey
@@kayanbrice8771 do u want a cookie for that lol
I think the Bucks need to improve their wing depth. Also, it depends if the Celtics can play Lopez off the court. When the Celtics make Brook ineffective, then the Jays go off, but if he stays in and protects the rim, then it comes to the Jay's decision-making.
That’s why they have KP and Al, two bigs that’ll stretch the floor and take him out the paint.
Honestly bro, the whole 17 chips with the Celtics doesn’t hold much ground for me today. Don’t get me wrong I still respect it and won’t take Away from it, but most those chips came in the 50,60,70’s before the league was actually good. Ever since bird in the 80’s they’ve barely won shit. Lastly, I’m sick of Boston being top 1-2 favorites every year for the title. It’s been this way for 3-4 years in a row now and they just prove to never get it done. I know they made some upgrades, but being favored over the defending champs before single game is played is ludicrous. I guess defending champ doesn’t mean much anymore
"Before the league was actually good". What does that even mean? Those who played back then are one of the best in basketball at their time. Its not like you can compare the scenario today that every country have people who knows how to play the game.
Bro pulled up stats from 5 years ago acting like they still playing the exact same😂😂
Yo, whats the song at around 8:30 ???
The reason I’m not worried about jrue is because he got absolutely destroyed last year by jimmy butler. If butlers good enough to nullify jrue, so is lillard
Sad to say, but facts
This guy never mentioned how the heat also beat the bucks earlier in the same play offs
Back in 2018 was all I needed to hear. He wasn’t pick n rolling with Giannis in 2018 😂 but appreciated the shout out to Kmidd
The problem is, celtics traded robert williams, and marcus smart, their best defenders against the bucks. KP can't do nothing against the greek freak, even if dame is locked down by jrue brook lopez and khris middleton exist.
On reddicks podcast he said carlisle put KP in the corner as a gameplan(he was on the team) and KP said in an interview he had to learnt to utilize more of his inside game. At the end of the day Tatum is 25 and Brown is 26. Tatum beating the warriors dynasty while turning 24 a month prior is a pretty damn hard thing to do. Giannis and Dame still have had their fair share of shortcomings too
A pretty damn hard thing to do, he didn't do it...
Jrue on Dame and Horford (yes, he is 37 but he Always excelled guarding Greek Freak) on Giannis. Middleton is a wild card here, but Tatum can cover him. On the other side, Bucks will need to play Epic team basketball if they want to stop Tatum/Brown/ Porzingis. I give the edge to Celtics.
@HoopReports you're not accounting for the defense of Derek White. The combo of Derek White and Jrue Holiday with Horford and Porzingus defending the rim will be too deadly for the bucks. I think it'll be Celtics in 6 or 7.
Last time they met Giannis had Boston on a 7 game chokehold without his second best player in Middleton.
Do Celtics fans actually realize - now that they have Jrue - that it would be the equivalent of Tatum going 7 games against the Bucks without Brown? Is there actually a Celtics fan out there delusional enough to imagine this would be realistic?
Now you take that same Giannis who zapped all your energy as he marinated, battered, and tenderized you when you were far more physical with the two Williams’ and you give him back his guy Middleton *and* you give him Dame.
Good fucking luck.
These are my 2 favorite teams right now. Can’t wait to see them go to battle.
Bucks insane for offense but in playoffs different DEFENSE & Damian Lillard liability in DEFENSE
How many years ago was that pelicans versus blazers series? I dont think its fair to compare something from that long ago.
It was back when Lillard was in the middle of his prime, now he's past his prime, Jrue is at the edge of his. I actually agree though, what happened back then doesn't really matter, he's never had a counterpart like Giannis before. It will be interesting.
Both these teams have a limited window. Middleton, Lopez, and Lillard are aging. Meanwhile the second apron is gonna hit this Celtics roster like a ton of bricks.
I think it goes to 7 and comes down to who the ball just goes in for.
bro said they can’t stop Middleton 💀, if bucks fans think the current Middleton is going to be a “Celtics Killer” then I love those chances 😂
everything will really boil down on the consistency of Lopez, Middleton and whoever is running the 2 guard.
4:23 🤣🤣💀💀
Jrue is extremely good against traditional small guards, like Dame who is 6'1...but against versatile tall players like Tatum, Brown, Butler, who can score and have good guard skills, he can't do much...Of course it's the Bucks fault as well, for pitting him against people who are out of his league (while also playmaking and scoring) because atm they didn't have anyone better. You can't defend against a 6'7-6'9 wing player with a 6'3 guard like Jrue and expect great results. I'm saying this because after he got destroyed by Butler in the playoffs, people were suddenly calling him trash. Even so, i still think the Dame trade, makes the Bucks a lot better as a team.
As a celtics fan gettimg Jrue Holiday was a great move but its icing on the cake knowing hes a bad matchup for Dame
Comparing Jrue Holidays defense of Lillard back then to now is laughable. Dame only had CJ then, He now has Giannis, Middleton, Brook plus good pieces in Bobby and Malik. Not to mention Jrue is not the defender today that he was then. Jimmy Butler just had multiple 40pt games a 50pt game and multiple 30pt games on Jrue. The year before that Jayson Tatum had multiple 40pt games with Jrue his primary defender.
I tell you what who ever wins the Championship any year it's a sweet feeling but this year with all the parody in the league it's awesome to see .
Many times collecting talent doesn't pan out. It makes money but not always gets rings. Nets, lakers, suns. Gathering talent and between all 3 they've won a default bubble ring.
I'll take the Celtics. But the East is about to fi d out just how good Lillard is.
Dame is ass
that’s crazy coming from gilbert arenas man, especially for tatum considering that gil is the reason tatum wears #0
What happened to holiday against jimmy, he got destroyed. Lillard and giannis look pissed off and I expect them to explode
IMO, Dame time is not the 2nd best PG after Curry in today's NBA
agreed, but he is the 2nd best shooter hands down
He's the best PG in the NBA today.
I like this channel better when he's not talking about the Warriors.
Dame has Giannis in the pick & roll. Who's guarding Giannis? KP?? Tatum?
Tatum put on some muscle this year, maybe the plan is for him to go against Giannis... This match up will be epic "thank you basketball gods"
if its celtics vs bucks, celtics win. they've had their number the past 2 years. they know how to handle giannis. the only 2 new things this season is the bucks have a new head coach and dame (who the celtics will counter with Jrue). the celtics havent succeeded because they have faced their matchup problem: the miami heat and the warriors. if the warrior and the heat are removed from the equation, then i could see the celtics beating the bucks and advancing. the question imo is the finals as imo the best team will get there too: the nuggets. the celtics and nuggets are about even the past couple of years so this will be a toss-up.
I wish we still had Ime.....but I think we'll be ok!! 💚
It will be a crazy match but the Celtics have more more weapon & if Tatum become more aggressive this year it will be a problem, cause I believe Tatum are better then Giannis Antetokounmpo in everything except being aggressive like Giannis . So I take the Celtics over Milwaukee 💪🏾❤️👏🏾🇺🇸❤️💪🏾
Stars get older potentially decline, Tatum & Brown keep getting better.
I wonder how Middleton will perform at his age after injury.
I don't see the Bucks doing anything on defense at the perimeter too.
Jaylen Brown your next video Hoop Reports 🤣😂😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣
Haliburton, Luka, Dame even steven. Steph something else to deal with !! 🏀 🏀
You said back in 2018 😅 jrue is good but ge lost a step or two.. and Lillard ain't the only scorer
I think you are right
you forgot Lenard won FMVP in 2014 and he wasn't the Spurs star plyer at that time either...
WHAT ABOUT DERRICK WHITE HE IS ON THE SAME LEVEL AS JRUE HOLIDAY!
Celtics lose. You will have to double Giannis AND Dame all game, and then you have 3 NBA Champs who can either drive to the hole or shoot the 3 efficiently (Brook, Khris, Pat)
What it comes down to is this. Bucks won at home, Celtics win at home, whoever gets the mos home games win. They are so close, it’s hard to call otherwise. I think the Celtics might be a little better, but they are so rarely at their peak during the playoffs. So it could go either way.
Its about health. But Tatum and brown has fried milwakees defense last few years and the bucks per D just got worse. Brook lopez gets played off the floor with horford now with porzingis its only gonna be harder. Dame and giannis will be amazing and tough. But the bucks defense will have issues. I think the Celtics have more answers to stop the bucks weapons than the bucks do to stop bostons weapons.
Workout khris.. With only Giannis and drew.. It was game 7.. If khris plays.. Boston don't stand a chance...
@@jamesheuston5066 yea ur missing the point. Bucks have no wing defenders on the perimeter. When they won the chip they at least had jrue and pj tucker. With dame they added more offense but they defense still lacking heavy on the wings and perimeter
@@natanaelmercado9167we were already a top defense before Jrue came, obviously our defense won’t be like it was with him but our offense will be a lot better and if you watched the playoffs key games we lost was because of our shooting
@@vvslaysnoobs9595tatum and brown avg 71 combined with Holiday… now it will be pat and dame guarding them when will yall have a answer for brown and tatum
@@Averagedre Dame Gianni’s and Khirs average 78 together,??
I'm gonna bring up the 90s again. Y'all see how you can't really guard Gianni's in this new era?? Gianni's would still get his points, but he couldn't just walk to the basket like he does now
Times has changed
You had me... until Gilbert Arenas😂
Three things.
First, this series is going to seven. There's no way around that. These are two hungry powerhouses that only care about winning it all.
Second, the Celtics have so much to prove that it's hard to see them falling barring some insane turn off events, because there's too much at risk if they lose.
Third, if their series is to decide who gets to play the Heat, this will be the most entertaining playoff series we've had in a WHILE.
What would happen if lillard, kristaps, jrue holiday, and middleton were injured?
Um…The Bucks lost to Miami with a better team as well. I don’t know why you only pointed out the Celtics losing to them. Tatum and Brown are right where they should be in their careers, knocking on the door for a championship. Celtics in 6….
lillard can’t guard his own shadow- Athletic Alchemy
If the Celtics had more discipline they would be the clear favourites
Lillard was alone before that is why defense was focused on him.
hey there,
The Bucks got the offensive upgrade with Dame, and the team looks destined to ride towards the stratosphere.
But, the only way I can describe the C's is, scary as hell.
A defensive minded team with high offensive power added one the best defensive PG's in the past years to pair with a unicorn.
Tatum looks cruising to either an MVP or a scoring title. Brown got his legendary bag. White is playing awesome basketball.
Both teams will throw countless haymakers on each other during matchups, but ... I see the edge going to the Celtics favor.
Anyway, what I'm sure of is that, the road to top in both conferences will be a blood bath.
All that I'm looking for is ... a sixth banner in the Oracle. And I believe it's on the way.
Best wishes.
Gianni carried his team to win the Championship. Tatum did not. Now, the Celtics spent a lot of money to give Tatum all the support that he needs to win the Championship but I don't think he can because Tatum and Brown are a bunch of chokers.
The answer is stupid simple...it's....Dame tiiime!!!!!!!!!!
Celtics now is the very definition of a super team. Amazing how NBA is keeping a blind eye to it. Is it because they're not winning the championship?
How is the NBA keeping a blind eye to it? Everyone literally switched their favorites in the East from Milwaukee to Boston as soon as Jrue was picked up. That's not even touching on how the media has positively portrayed Boston for years over small market teams, it's pathetic. On another note, Miami and Philly are playing well, but no one it talking about their contest in the East. Even a month ago when you commented on this there is no way you could have believed the NBA is turning a "blind eye" to the Celitics. BS. If the Bucks or any other team won the finals over Boston, they choked being predicted as the favorite from everyone in the NBA to come out of the east. It would be on them, no victim blaming.
no one! we all win! that would be an epic clash!
That was 2018 bro Jrue is slower and trae young was skating tf out of Jrue I think dame can do the same
Dame the type to get injured w the bucks
Celtics still live on the 3s, I think last year's roster better. Horford seems to be a key, when hes invisible Tatum and Brown turnover machines. When Holiday scores points it's a lot of one on one, that will bore Tatum who is used to gunning.
Absolutely no one calls Khris “the Celtics killer “
I think Jrue will play great defense in this hypothetical series, but to say he would “eat Dame up” is a vast overstatement. Dame averaged 7ppg more last year than the year he played in the Pelicans/Blazers series, and he didn’t have a big man in the same stratosphere as Giannis. The problem every team in the NBA will have to deal with is that both Dame and Giannis require the entire defense’s attention in order to stop them. The strategy to stop Giannis is either build a wall, or put a guy on the perimeter guarding him, another guy around the free throw line to step in, and a paint defender. When the Bucks won the finals, shooters made their shots and the “wall” didn’t work at all. The only reason it worked (a little) the last two years was because the bucks had way too many guys shooting any possible three and weren’t making them. Griffin has stated his goal is to only shoot good threes, and along with that, Jrue was left wide open the last two years because he couldn’t shoot in the playoffs, which allowed defenses to double or triple Giannis on every play. Now replace Dame with Jrue, and you’re talking about two guys who require all of the defenses attention, perfectly complimenting each others play style so that if one is defended, the other will be open or at worst have a 1v1 opportunity. Neither dame nor Giannis has had that chance in their entire careers and yet they both averaged 30ppg+ last season- this is the first time two players averaged 30+ ppg and then became teammates the next year. That take also doesn’t take into account that Jrue did get exposed by Butler last playoffs because he’s a beast and the Heat had great screens and movement. That’s what the Bucks will have this year, and it’s scary to think what that will mean for any team attempting to slow them down.
Celtics have the personnel edge, I think. They're very deep.
But the Bucks are dangerous.
My opinion: let 'em play, and may the best team win.
Assuming they can get that matchup in the playoffs. They might not.
Stuff can happen. Another conference team could get hot. Injuries could happen. If we could know outcomes in advance, we wouldn't have a reason to watch the games, now would we?
Championships are not decided before the season starts. Often enough, there are surprises.
Celtics deep?
@@ZhangK71 I think they are. Oodles of talent on that roster.
It's just my opinion, though. What I think is weightless. All that counts will happen on the court.
You forgot that the Celtics have Al Horford, the Giannis stopper, and Derrick White, an All-Defensive team guard
You also forgot to mention that the Bucks lost to Miami in less games, in the first round, not even the conference finals
The Celtics beat the bucks with a lesser team. Add more experience for the Js. Add Porzingus and Holiday. Add an improved White. Also add how poorly dame did in the pre season.
Celtics take this one in 6.
Boston has the defense to guard the Bucks especially Lillard and the offense that can terrorize their defense
Did he say Tatum and brown look at Middleton and see Michael Jeffrey Jordan? Lol
Brook Lopez is 35, dame is 33, Middleton is 32. The bucks have 6 of their players over the age of 30 and 4 of them are going to be starting while the Celtics have 2 on their roster and only 1 of them will start. The bucks will literally have pat Connaughton starting at guard. They have 0 guard depth. The Celtics on the other hand have 2 all defensive guards and a 25 year old pg who has shown he’s needed more playing time for a while now. Kris Middleton has just shown us last year that he will not overcome his injures and play near to the all star Middleton. And Tatum and brown have only gotten better every year. Also brook lopez doesn’t play well defensively against teams with stretch 5s, last year kristaps, embiid, joker all had great offensive games and shot efficiently from 3. Brook plays his best d when he’s able to be a rim protector, kristaps will light him up if he does that. I also don’t understand how it’s not blatantly obvious we’re not 100% a better defensive team than them. 2 all defensive guards, jaylen brown had a defensive rating of 111( 15th best in the league), Jayson Tatum defensive rating 109(10th best in the league), Al horford(if u didn’t see him dominate Giannis defensively in the 2022 playoffs look it up), and kristaps(ranked 22nd best defensive rating). 5 of our starters rank in the top 25 of drtg while only 2 of bucks players do, and one of them is gonna be 36 next season. I’m sorry but bad take
Bucks looks amazing... still think they don't have depth in bench ... also I see the choke still burry them as a mind play statement IT IS... Boston has more bench and perhaps I am wrong but they can go over better than the Bucks and as for one by one players and position Boston 5 can end superior and bench ... even bigger... I give it to boston... I desire dame can and get a finals but he has not enough playoff experience as the boston have.
As a celtics fan, the part about tatum and brown not being disciplined enough is spot on. It hurts to say but I do think the bucks are going to win a 7 game series against us. The celtics choke in big moments
It’s absolutely hilarious to me when ppl use a series from 2018 to discredit Damian Lillard lol
Who was on his team then? Was giannis? Was jrue holiday 34 then? No.
Remember-giannis will create space for dame by drawing attention. Giannis can also play point guard… we also have khris and brook and Bobby who can easily get a bucket.
i dont know probably the bucks have access to more weapons maybe the laws for guns in boston are a little more tough but i am not sure about that i am not an americanologist . also do they fight in a city? maybe boston has the urban advantage with fights around ghettos but the bucks are better shooters in open field areas with long range assault rifles
So far through the season , the Bucks have a clear weakness in terms of perimeter defense!
I'm still waiting for someone to explain how a team defends the Celtics... All this talk about how the Celtics can defend the opposing teams but at the end of the day those teams also need to defend the Celtics. KP is the third option, and unlike when he was the "second" option on the Mavs, he won't be told to sit in the corner to shoot corner threes. Carlisle really didn't try maximize his strengths and the Mavs were playing the Luka show. But how do you stop a Tatum/KP pick and roll? Giannis cant guard both of them. Brook can't defend 20+ ft from the basket. Not to mention you'll have 35+% career average three point shooters waiting for the rotations. No one seems to talk about that. You have a tandem of Brown and Tatum who have been to 4 ECFs and the finals and are battle tested despite the rhetoric about discipline. If you need to talk about discipline then go focus your attention on Embiid who hasn't made it out of the second round despite being deemed a "top 5" player and an "MVP". What people also fail to realize is that despite Dame having the reputation for clutch shots, its actually Tatum who leads the league in that stat the last 6 years. 155 players have attempted 25+ FG to tie or take the lead in the final 24 seconds (reg and playoffs combined) and Tatum ranks 1st with a 51.7% FG percentage. Most playoff points in that time period also goes to Tatum (for all those who talk about bricks while cherry picking games to talk about).
I hope we're fortunate to see these two in the conference finals. That is the ECF everyone wants and the debate will get settled there. It will be so much fun to watch and I do believe who ever wins it will win the championship this year. As good as the other teams got in the West, I just don't think they're on par with the Bucks or Celtics this year. I think losing Bruce Brown really hurts the Nuggets but they still have Jokic and Murray... Do they take the foot off the gas since they won a championship? I think they do. I just don't think Jokic cares about being an all time great even though he has the skills to be one. The Suns lost a lot of key players and I think their defense will be suspect. They'll be able to iso the hell out of everyone though! They'll be fun to watch.
Ultimately, I'm extremely curious to see what Dame does next to the best teammate he's ever had. It will unlock a lot for him. Maybe that Dame/Giannis combo will be too lethal, or maybe the Celts took another step and the addition of Jrue and KP unlocks JT and JB. Fun season ahead!
You really said all that for nobody to read it 🤣 🤣 🤣
Holiday isnt the #2 on the Celtics. Hes a #3 of not #4 scoring option.
Lillard in the series , was the only top player, holiday had AD, lillard has Giannis now , If holiday goes on lillard now Giannis is going to be the primary ball handler and lillard will go off ball , Giannis is going to cook the brown and Tatum they can’t defend him, the Celtics have traded the two guys who tried and their best to stop Giannis in the paint 2 seasons ago in the playoffs while Giannis was still dropping points , Holiday was dropping bricks 🧱 after bricks 🧱 in that series and it still went 7 games. If I exchange holiday for lillard in that series even without Middleton,Milwaukee would advance, Good the Celtics improved on the perimeter defense by acquiring Holiday, but their post defense has taken a massive hit, KP is not enough to defend Giannis ,brook Lopez,Bobby Portis in the post, from the preseason AJ junior the rookie for the Bucks is a damn good perimeter defender and he’s big enough to guard wings, Payne and Tyty are good defensive point guards too. It’s going to be a fun series
It all depends on health cause they're pretty much equal frfr
Celtics for the W, only because they have more balanced / better team, they don't have the best superstars, BUCKs have. Also KP is massively undervalued these days, I wouldn't be surprised if he will be the most efficient and consistent player leading the team, leaving Tatum and Brown behind. KP has arguably the highest game IQ on the team in my opinion. Don't hate just an opinion