Did You Catch This Disturbing Detail In Isabela's "Perfect" Room?
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2022
- Welcome to our clan of Disney chaos! Anyone else obsessed with dissecting every detail of our favorite movies? Because we are! In today's video, we are going to be talking about Isabela, more specifically her room. Creators from Encanto have spoken out about some of the details in her room, and it turns out, they hid a disturbing detail amongst the golden child’s room that most fans did not pick up on!
Here's our deep dive into why Abuela was so obsessed with Isabela!
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I think Abuela pushed Isabella and Mariano together because they looked like a young version of her and Pedro.
Agreed!
Abuela wasnt that pretty nor was she that girly. Pwrhaps more of pedaling an ideal of perfect woman onto isabella
that is a good theory
Mind = BLOWN
@@LilyUnicorn Latin grandmas especially the oldschool ones are super super super into pairing of thwir grandkids to the perfect match. So in both cases it could be. Alma was living through Isabella and was putting her up that social ladder for getting the perfect man.
for me the curtains are more like a place where she can hide from her family and be her true self, rather than a cage. but i suppose hiding spaces and cages are kinda similar and are just a matter of perspective
I like this idea! Maybe the curtains were her safe space away from her obligations for being perfect?
the director confirmed that its basically a detail for her feeling trapped in this perfect image. in her song, after she starts breaking free, the curtains disappear so...
@@PoppyDonutt69 “ feeling trapped” metaphorically when ur hiding away for so long it ends up keeping u “trapped” because ur too scared to change anything ur doing incase ppl don’t like u or something bad happens
her whole room is a cage, the roses all around the room are a symbol of what she's supposed to be and not what she wants. the curtains are more like a hidden area away from it, they disappear because the room is no longer a cage but a room she can change to suit her
What you said, when you build walls around yourself they can equally become a cage. Pixar is good at layering and meaning too.
Fun fact:
did you guys realize that Antonio was so soft before he got his gif but after he got his gif he tried to act brave and cool and then when he lost his gif he was soft again
I mean he's never been clingy but I agree with you, that's interesting ; that's something I haven't notice before
He couldn’t even walk without mirabel holding his hand. “Clingy”.
@@jessfigueroa1873 sorry I just Thought that was "clingy"
Who’s Antonio?
@@JunoCat1890 d-did you watch the show?
Isabella is also the first grandchild. That’s something too.
And the first granddaughter. Unrelated, but the thing I love most in "What Else Can I Do" is when Isabela hugs Mirabel, because that's probably the first time Isabela has hugged her in years. Mirabel finally feels accepted by her older sister. I think, to help the candle, Mirabel had to hug both her sisters.
I thought that was Dolores.
@@reubenmanzo2054 Isabela was born first, and Dolores was born soon after
I thought Luisa was the oldest
@@trinityoxspring2345 i thought so too at first, but Isabela’s actually the oldest!
also during “what else can i do” as her room turns colourful her curtains lift up and disappear from her bed which to me means since shes practically free now the curtains (or cage basically) are open letting her free
@@dianewood2430 yeah im just calling it how others are refering to it
I didnt notice that, but its really cool!
yeah she honestly was putting up this perfect facade for so long that it's considered toxic.
@@dianewood2430 it’s just a metaphor 🎃
As Bruno's prophecy for Isabella, "the life of my dreams would be promised and one day be mine," and "my powers will grow like the grapes that thrive on the vine," both show up starting in that sequence of the movie. She felt forced to be perfect, when she just wanted to be herself and not have to be perfect. Thus by letting herself be free, her powers did start to grow and thrive.
I find it sad that Mirabell couldn’t see her gift was RIGHT in front of her. I was only 30mins in to the movie shouting “You’re the ONLY ONE the house communicates with!!”. Other family members talked to Casita (a little) but Casita ONLY spoke back to Mirabel. To the point where she can whisper to Casita and Casita would respond. Other than the pressure from Aubela, I feel like the house crumbled b/c Mirabel didn’t BELIEVE in the gift that was right at her fingertips. We all know, the secret to Disney magic is belief and faith
You're wrong.
@@urfavDanganronpafan I disagree with you.
I 100% I agree with you,
You're right.
The house responded to Abuela as well. It’s why it’s theorized Mirabel got no obvious gift bc she’s meant to inherit the essence of the gift itself as the family’s new matriarch, much like Abuela. The house seeming to only respond to commands from both Abuela and Mirabel support this.
The flower petals she sheds demonstrate her extreme anxiety. They come up when she is told she is supposed to have 5 babies, when she is talking to abuela about the marriage and when Pepa is "tornading the flowers." Each time she was front and center and anxious.
Thats a fantastic observation!
And thts y she was jealous even though the way she said it looked awful but in her way it was to protect mirabel as she knew mirabel shouldn't come up as she isn't being pressured by abuela.
In the scene they show as well there is a perfect example of how Abuela even tried to control her anxieties in a way. The flowers that pop up on her head from the anxiety are all "perfect" but one that doesn't fit and Alma pulls that one off and tosses it aside
Did anyone else notice that Isabella‘s earrings were almost exactly like Abuela‘s. They are both pearls with gold on them and I think it really shows how Abuela is trying to turn Isabella into her perfect self
Isabela*
Isabella reminds me of a girl I knew in HS who had an eating disorder and a lot of anxiety bc her mother had such high expectations for her. She felt like she had to dance perfectly and get perfect grades and do everything perfect in her EC's to get into a good college bc that was what her mother wanted for her, and the pressure caused her to be so nervous she picked her skin, didn't eat/was actively afraid to eat sometimes, and had trouble sleeping. But when you see her you think "oh she's so perfect, she's so pretty and thin, smart, she must not have any problems whatsoever" and before I knew about her life, I thought she was stuck up.
Wow yeah thts what I tell my mom but she never understands nor listens but it's true. But I never thought of anybody as perfect but I have thought tht they r rich they must have better life than mine. So yeah in a way I did think tht but for a different reason. As I used to go to private school and it was expensive it was hard but my parents afford it but it was hard but the other kids were rich. So to this point in time I am not sure abt it.
My husband actually grew up having a huge house with a spiral staircase, rooftop gathering area, and top-of- the-line games and electronics. His dad is a doctor specializing in dermatology.
When I first saw my husband's childhood home, I thought he was a spoiled, little rich boy who just gamed all day. Now I see that while his father was beloved by the community, he was a horrible, controlling, cheating husband, and an even more absent father. My mother-in-law would cry, sleep, and have fits of rage daily for the first 17 years of my husband's life.
There's so much more to the story, but what I realized is wealth is not everything. My husband always says he would trade all the gifts in his life just for his dad to be there, and to care for him and his mother.
Anyways, things are much better now and we don't associate at all with my father-in-law, and my mother-in-law has found peace, and is the sweetest woman.
Isabella always reminded me of a friend of mine, who was actually called Isabella (I live in Perú), and she was basically "perfect" (or close to perfect); she was really smart, she was pretty, she was independent, she was really kind, and she was always participated in class and had really good grades. She was literally friends with everyone, and during PE she was nicknamed (in a kind and playful way), "the girl with no bones" because she was really flexible in all kinds of PE activities.
This girl makes me think of me younger. I still struggle with performance anxiety and pressure from my dad. I had an eating disorder when i was younger and people used to tell me i was so beautiful and guys were falling for me, etc. I had perfect grades too. It actually created the exact contrary result and i’m even more disappointing my dad now because as i was trying to heal from that, i became overweight, did so much anxiety and insomnia that i didn’t finish my degree (i eventually did another one in graphic design but just a year long and as you can imagine, that’s no way near the doctorate my parents wanted me to have). I have always been artistic but told art would make me work at mcdonalds. So yeah, i still probably have years of therapy in front of me🥲 but I’m slowly learning to break free from the expectations and be my own person.
@@tinygardentomato Just because it’s a nice house doesn’t mean nice things are going on inside of it. I’m happy for you that your husband came out on the other side a good man.
What disturbed me most about Isa's room was the models of herself that she had, so she could practice being perfect. How many hours did she work, trying to appear perfect, knowing she wasn't and never could be perfect.
What Abuela Alma did was still cruel, but it wasn't done with malice. Her good intentions were twisted by fear of lost and of the unknowable future.
That one think i bin think about what if abuela was more abusive to mirabel? physically or even mentally and at some point. Instead of the fight mirabel and abuela had what if some one happen to be there to witness what abuela was doing to mirabel. Would they Intervene and stop it or Ignore it?
@@maleficentforever9271 personally, as a latinoamerican person myself I don't think anyone would intervene, I mean, sure there are some brave people like Mirabel that say hard truths to the abuser's face but mostly when someone is in charge of the entire family we are raised to never speak up or things will get violent
It reminds me of Elsa
@@roseburn1874 well if they r abusing u in a bad way where they should be told then they should be talked on because of the abuse they have brought in. And just because u have trauma doesn't mean u should put pressure ur family it's understandable u want ur children to have a happy life but let them be and have them choose what happiness is for them and not u putting what is happiness for u on them.
@@roseburn1874 ok instead of some one intervening what if mirabel would of just running away
Not to mention the fact that her bed is literally raised in the air, further pointing out the isolation she feels by being raised on a pedestal
I also think that the vines she’s constantly shown holding her up may represent how she’s also hanging on by a thread or in this case a vine, especially her bed, even in the safety of her own room she’s always just barley hanging on
Isabela’s room is also an endless sea of pink and pastels. Pretty, but also lonely. A symptom of perfection is that one chases away others who fear judgement from you and your own seeming-narcissism towards anything slightly negative. A total opposite to Mirabel’s bed in the nursery, which is decorated with her many pictures of the village.
And there are other theories behind Isabela’s anger towards Mirabel. Isabela was jealous of her sister’s freedom of no expectations and angry Mirabel didn’t value that. Mirabel being the black sheep of the family, was a perfect vessel to funnel frustrations towards even when undeserved. Or whenever Mirabel messed up, Isabela was ever more pressured to be perfect in that sense of “learn from their mistakes and don’t be like (insert person)”
A theory behind Alma’s treatment of her family was that she focused on the candle and magic and giving back to the community as a coping mechanism for her trauma, until that became maladaptive. The candle became all Alma cared about as she forgot why her family received this gift
Thank god someone can spell Isabela correctly
Also someone pointed out that the very morning after Antonio got his gift, abuela Alma already said "I'm sure we'll put your gift to good use" without letting him just enjoy it. He got his gift because he loved animals a lot and Mirabel even made him a plushie. Maybe Isabela was also really into gardening and flowers as a kid, but didn't get to enjoy it, since it was "put to good use" pretty quickly. "What else can I do?" is probably her reclaiming her passion for plants she once had.
That would make Mirabel's arc even more sad, because she would have wanted to reunite the family since a little kid
@@mikalbuq I think as a little kid she probably didn't notice how disfunctional her family was, that's why she doesn't see the cracks in her house(basically the cracks in her family's relationship) until after admitting she isn't happy with what's going on in the family(a.k.a. "Waiting on a Miracle"). When she was little she was likely fooled by the "perfect" image of the older generations.
What I like to think is that even though the curtains are a “cage” towards Isabella, I like to think that when she walks out beyond the curtains, I feel like it means that even though she in the ‘cage’ she’s still let out free but still trapped because her room is filled with flowers, I feel like it means that she still feels trapped no matter what she does.
I love how in Isabella you also see the toxicity of a "Princess" character. Supposed to be pretty, graceful and in line...not a thing out of place and love who they want you to love.
I love this movie because it really portrays the message that no matter how perfect someone's life looks on the outside, we are all flawed on the inside
Thats so true
Yepppp
Nice message
I have a theory that Abuela focuses so much on the sisters is that, out of the triplets, Julieta had the most helpful gift. Bruno was seen as a curse and Pepa's was seen as a burden, being so unpredictable and all. Abuela expected her beloved Julieta's children would be just as amazing as their mother's gift.
wait that's so smart
No, no, that actually makes sense so much, it hurts
This makes a lot of sense! Especially when we see that Abuela seems kind of aggressive towards Pepa's unability to control her feelings/clouds
did anyone else notice in "What Else Can I Do?" there's one more part that indicates to me that everything is just a show?
It was when Mirabel was trying to follow Isabela and was hanging from the tree about to fall while Isabela was singing the line "can I deliver us a river of sundew? Careful, it's carnivorous..." as she helped Mirabel up onto the top of the tree. Isa's voice softens just a little at the second part ("careful...") and you could tell she actually did care about Mirabel from that new tone.
It made me think that even her dislike towards Mirabel was part of the perfect show she was putting on because ABUELA disapproved of Mirabel
If you guys noticed when mirabels door is disappearing, abuela starts going away from her, plus when she plucked the white flower Isabella made a sadder face.
No, she wasn't sadder
that look like disappointing face more than sad.
you can see she rub her fingers after drop the flower just like she already pick some trash.
Honestly Isabela’s bedroom always felt like a gilded birdcage and almost cavernous with the lack of furniture and Domed Rose Planters lining the space instead, not “serene and princess-like”
Guess that explains why
Not just a prison but also a way to give herself privacy and representation of how she conceals h true self with a flowery outside.
And one thought I had was tht when she sings and says she is gonna have her dream come true kind of thing u know in we don't talk abt bruno where she is scared on bad things will happen if her powers will grow grapes on the vine where she doesn't want tht or else it will become bad for the family especially the expectations on her by abuela. When I watched it again itade sense y Isabella to not talk abt it at all.
Abuela’s actions are never okay, but they are understandable, and therefore much easier to forgive and achieve reconciliation with. This is a crucial distinction.
I just thought of the curtains like stage curtains. Once she stepped out from behind them she was essentially putting on an act/show/play. 😅
In 'What Else Can I Do?' Isabela lets a bunch of colours push the perfect flowers away because she wants to get rid of them also she says "I'm so sick of pretty"
I always thought Maribel was like Abuela. Neither one has a “gift” but each one is essentially the carrier of the flame or magic. Abuelas door shows her carrying the candle which until Maribel, Abuela carried the family and was the backbone and main support for the town and family.
Yes. Alma has a special room though according to the writters (its a replica of the house she and Padro shared before they had to flee), so that might be why the family did not understand that Maribel was ment to be Alma's successor.
You see a cage, I see a stage. Remember the line about "practicing perfect poses?" Isabella is always "on stage," upholding the burden of being the perfect, pretty, golden child.
Despite being nothing like as Isabela , i feel really related to her : i also used to trap in tons of exspectation from my grandmother , however ... Unlike Isabela i've free myself from that prison , life is already bad , so let it be and let it free , i am myself , not a good child , not a great student but perfect as the way i am . Why should i be care about what other said ? Perfectness is what a being thought how it should be , not what public defind it as.
Well said and good for you! 💕
Nothing makes it okay, to make a child feel like they are worthless. I can understand why it happens, but it is never okay. People don't even realize it when they do this. The effects can last a lifetime. I know this from my childhood. My parents divorced when I was seven, and my mom and brothers wound up dumped on relatives that made it very clear to me, that I was just a burden, that they didn't want to have around. Even when they tried to be nice, it was almost always condescending. I was never good enough, no matter how hard I tried. So I was a little boy, that felt like Isabela.
When I got older I was very good at learning things and fixing things. Then I was only seen as useful, for repairing electrical wiring, to things like TV sets, and cars and appliances, and working on relatives houses for them. Then I was a pre-teen, and teenager that felt like Luisa. This carried on all my life. I was really only invited around to fix things for family.I felt like I couldn't disappoint anyone. I was always under enormous pressure to be able to repair anything, constantly asked for help, but never asked if I needed any help.
This is why I relate to Encanto so well.
I can relate
For me, I think that Abuela only put pressure on her family because of what she had in her past. My theory is that Abuela believed that if she puts pressure on her family now, in the future, when she disappears, her family will have a great life because e of all the hard work they have done when they were younger and Abuela was still with them. Even though I know that Abuela gave her family a burden, I don't think that she is the antagonist in the movie. She only really didn't pay attention to Mirabel before the near ending of the movie, because she didn't want Mirabel "ruining" all the hard work her family did, and I don't think Abuela only wanted Isabela to marry Mariano because he was perfect and the most handsome man, I believe it's because he resembles Abuelo Pedro so much. And since Abuela DID see herself in Isabela, she just wanted to give Isabela the perfect life that Abuela always wanted when she was younger.
Bute it is just my opinion though.
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Congrats 😂
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True... Frankly that was what my mother says to me. The reason that she was strict to me and later to my bros was because she does not want us to suffer in the future. That we wouldn't have to deal with all were dealing with... Sadly I was a natural rebel so I failed to reach the standards. I might also have a problem to boot that I only understood now so🤷... Yeah, no Latin Honours I guess...
What I really like about this movie is that nobody was really the antagonist. They were all just family members trying to deal with their problems in ways they felt was right. Isabela and Abuela both realized they were wrong to blame Mirabel for the family's problems.
I actually have a question why does Isabella remind me so much of Rapunzel
Because Disney wanted her to be give off "Disney Princess" vibes
Same
Well she was hanging a lot on vines like Rapunzel hangs around the ceiling with her hair
They both use L'Oreal?
Probably the dress color
Isabella was always my favourite character. A perfect child that had problems and learned to let go. It WAS the same for my best friend. I was the "perfect" daughter always getting good grades but my parents didnt have high expectations at all. Meanwhile my friends parents had high expectations and never was able to be good enough for them. She befriended me and looked up to me as some type of god for the first few days. But eventually she learned Im just as human as she was. We learned alot about each other over the past 3 years. But her parents hated me. PURELY because I was better. And because I also cause some, okay alot of "bad" stuff. Hey the "perfect" girl just wanna have some fun sometimes.
Also a fun fact did anyone else notice in the beginning of the movie in the song the family Madrigal Mirabel says a perfect constellation as she’s walking into Isabella‘s room but in the ending song all of you she says a glowing constellation while referring to Pepa and Isabella because throughout the movie those gifts are seen as not only a gift but also a burden
Yeah! The second time i watched the movie, i realized she said something similar to this before, and i was able to put 2 and 2 together; i thought this was a very nice detail
The encanto analyses on this channel take truly psychoanalytic dimensions...love it
Isabella is supposed to represent the apparent perfection of the whole family. The curtains are like a reminder of the secrecy that keeps every member of the family from talking about the hardships, the pressure, etc. It’s a picture of the hypocrisy they are all stuck in because of the need to appear perfect to everybody on the outside. Mirabela’s gift is actually being able to cut through all that crap and reveal the reality, thus allowing real relationships and authenticity in the family and with the outside. That’s why she doesn’t need a magic door. It’s not a trick or an illusion. It’s the power to live in reality, accept it and make the most of it.
I never thought about how Isabella might be jealous of Mirabel. I was wondering why she didn’t really get along with Mirabel, besides Mirabel being jealous.
Tbh I think the reason why Isabella didn't like Mirabel is because she felt like Mirabel was able to live the life of freedom and mistakes that she isn't able to live because of the pressures of being perfect. That in itself is frustrating seeing your younger sibling be able to live a life you wish you could which is why she was constantly so rude to Mirabel. It was so stressful and hard work to please Abuela and the family. This is why when Mirabel calls her 'selfish' when she confronts her in her room, Isabella immediately flies in a rage. How could someone call you selfish if everything you've been doing as been for everyone, *but yourself* and for years? How could anyone not get upset hearing that especially from someone who has had to freedom to figure out their identity and not be given an identity like Isabella was by Abuela.
I think so too. I’ve heard it from people irl too. Not about being perfect, but I’ve definitely heard from people who follow expectations set before them, sometimes they envy others who rebel or do not care about the expectations. People who are resilient and brave enough to go about their own lives and tell anyone else to “F*** off” who give them ire for their choice.
According to the wiki, it's a bit of a strained-to-mutual-contempt-for-each-other kinda vibe.
It just goes to show that the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence...or in this case, the flowers are always pretty in someone else's garden
I just looked up the flower language for jacaranda, because it made me wonder if it had any significance since it had such an emphasis in Wjat Else I can Do, and some of the meanings I found were "The tree represents wisdom, rebirth, wealth and good luck."
"Wisdom" as she opened her eyes to what else she was capable of (outside of what was expected of her), "rebirth" as she rediscovers herself like being born anew, "wealth" I guess can be attributed to how her powers have grown beyond just rows and rows of roses, and "good luck" as she goes down this newfound path for herself.
I dunno how accurate this info is but I like to think it fits rather well ♥
Hands down: Alma was the unintentional villain of Encanto
Knowing villains are broken. 😩
in wdtab, i noticed (before she admitted it) that she sounded and looked like she was going to cry when they all started to sing together. she also said i’m fine. i think this means that isabela has to keep telling herself that she’s “fine,” when she’s truly not.
They ask you how you are, and you just have to say you’re fine when you’re not really fine, but you just can’t get into it, because they would never understand - Katy Perry
LOL, me too not gonna lie, but instead of at the end of the overlapped singing, she says I'll be fine, and Dolores says I'm fine.
This video feels like when I'm trying to reach the word limit on and essay
Exactly lol
Honestly, when I saw the curtains I knew exactly what they were for because that’s what my room is for me. But I’m not the favorite. I’m scapegoat that my mother wants to live vicariously through
Oof to you, and 1.9999999999999999999999% to myself in my dreams and Encanto fanon, because I'm the oldest great-granddaughter in my fanons.
I thought the curtains were more a symbol that she was always performing
That’s a cool thought, just goes to show how much of an amazing symbol they r
I feel that the title is click bait. What part of it was disturbing? The curtains were sad at most.
To me disturbing is to hide dangerous, deranged or twisted thoughts, feelings or intentions. Like suicide, murder, perversion, etc.
Isabella's room must smell soooooo good.
I thought isabela was rude to mirabel because abuela was
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who noticed she looks just like her grandmother
I just noticed the dang near military fold on her bedding 0.0
Oh, s😐t...
I'm confused what?
I just noticed that not only do they animate them breathing, but when Dolores is saying about how he wants five kids or whatever you can actually see that Isabella’s breathing is very quick during that whole scene! Especially when compared to everyone else’s!
Her power is the magic of the house
You mean gift🙄
As an older sister, I understand Isabela. I to would feel the pressure to be the perfect sister, and my little sister and I often argued. But when we sat down to talk as adults, we realized we were jealous of each other. My sis was jealous of how smart and talented I was. I was jealous at how outgoing and strong-willed my little sister is. But despite that, we still love each other.
anyone else wonder why everyone is talking about that Mirabel doesnt have a gift but Abuela doesnt have one *herself?*
it's because Abuela's job is being the candle holder, which when she dies.. there is the theory that role will be passed onto Mirabel, therefore Mirabel did not earn a gift.. she was going to take on Abuela's 's job in the future.
I also saw a theory that Mirabel’s power is being able to communicate with Casita since we don’t see that happen with her other family members.
There's an over 3 minute not-related-to-the-"disturbing"-thing-you-clicked-this-link-for spiel, if you want to see what they think is disturbing about Isabella's room start at 3:17. It's not disturbing. it's just an interesting detail.
Why does Isabella's boyfriend looks so much like her grandfather's husband
Yea I thought about that too
You mean Dolores boyfriend
Grandmothers husband
That’s why Abuela wanted Isabela to marry him. He reminds Abuela of her late husband, Pedro, and Isabela looks just like Abuela when she was younger. She’s basically trying to live her life through Isabela
The curtains reminded me of how pet bird cages are typically covered with a cover or curtain. With that plus the swing/swing bed she seems to be seen on in the movie, she reminded me of a pet bird trapped in it's cage or something.
Mirabel got a gift but not a room, because in the end, the entire casa was her room. Basically the house became her room when she “didn’t” get her gift.
encanto will always have a special place in my heart because i can deeply relate to the struggles of both, Luisa and Isabella. While watching the movie with my siblings, i couldn't help but shed tears because i felt like the words i've never got to say were accurately spoken word by word by the characters. Esp the part when luisa sang surface pressure. Carrying the expectations alone just because everyone thinks that everything easily works out for me is suffocating. What's worse is that my siblings often get jealous of me and try to bully me because they think I have it all too easy.
She's much better after the song 🥰🧁🥰
Yea😘😍😊
One thing I also noticed that other people also know tho I still like to point it out, the vines that serves as a swing for Isabella can have an alternative meaning too. If things got really dark where her mental and emotional health ain't lookin good, she'd be swinging with the flowery vines holding her on the neck part..
I'm 3 minutes in and I still don't know what is behind the curtains
3:30 is when he finally gets to the point.
I wanna know more on why mirabelle didn’t get a gift/ room and abuela not having a gift but being harsh for mirabelle not having a gift
She DID get a gift. It’s the same gift as the grandma. She’s the new embodiment of the candle/magic.
@@jasminebanks7462 it’s just weird how she has no room. I know she has a gift but her ‘not having one’ nor the grandma( like the others) I don’t see why abuela would be rude ya know!
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@@lilybethkuhn9650 I agree she should have gotten her own room.
I heard that she is the one to be perfect becuse 1. Her powers r perfect and 2. She looks like the grandma when she was younger.
I wouldn't say her "powers "are perfect,they are attached to her emotions just as the one can control the weather. any gift was attached to emotions was fragile I mean she broke the guys nose more than once and wasn't even standing by him the second time. everyone's gifts were useful and important some were used more often than others and some weren't as stable as others
I totally agree with you Deluxe, I've been re-watching Encanto till I figured it out.
Did Abuela have any expectations or resentment of Camilo and his powers? They don’t really go into that. Camilo seems to be in the grey space. His power is not being over-used by Abuela like Luisa, he’s not getting her attention like Isabel, he’s not being shunned like Bruno, he’s not being seen as a burden or useless like Mirabel. We don’t talk about Bruno? more like we don’t talk about Camilo!
Me this whole video thinking “ what if Isabella had pollen allergies “
The only thing I disliked about the movie was that they got their powers back in the end. With that, they kinda undid the message of: "You don't need to be perfect." It felt as if they were saying: "You don't need any special gifts. Being normal and well-intentioned is more than enough.... BUT! If you live up to unrealistic standard, it's better." This makes it even more sad, considering that Isabella was never as happy, as when she had no powers.
I can see this being a problem as well. While there is no perfect movie, it makes the majority of the audience secretly hope for Mirabel to find a gift in the future. When I already know from these experiences she has so much potential for leadership in any role without needing superhuman “gifts”.
The question of whether what Abuela did was wrong depends a lot on how you view moral philosophy. Consequensialists believe that intention matters very little and if what you did hurt someone, then it doesn't matter why or if you even knew what you were doing was hurting others, you are in the wrong. I can't remember what they're called, but there's a group that puts a lot of value on intent. If you didn't even know you were hurting people how could you correct your behaviour? You are still in the wrong but you maybe don't deserve the ninth degree. Some people think that if you're not honest about your feelings and then someone hurts them because they didn't know that you didn't like that YOU are actually in the wrong so, they'd probably put some blame on the family too, not just Abuela. It's a really interesting topic :)
The curtains could also signify how she keeps her heart and her opinions closed away from her family. How she doesn't tell anyone how she really feels so that she can live up to Abuela's expectations and live the 'perfect' life that everyone believed her to be living.
3:40 I was tired of waiting so I made a timestamp. Not sure if ppl need it but ur welcome?
This video made me cry. Good stuff!
Poor isabella she's my favourite character 😣
Fun fact:most people think “there’s no villan in encanto” well there is. Dolores. OK OK OK lemme explain if she could hear Luisa’s eye twitching then she could definitely hear the house cracking and didn’t defend mirabell which means she wanted the house to die. I forgot the rest but still. It’s Dolores.
If she could hear it, doesn’t mean she could understand it.
And tbf, her ability is one of the worst gifts in that household so if I was her, I wouldn’t care about the house cracking either
I love this movie to bits because it's in the family context and that everything is magical. Plot is on point and somewhat relatable, it's also very symbolic in real life
The flower pluck from the hair is a hint at the progression of the family line too. Abuela removes the only white flower from Isabella's hair; white being the symbol for virginity. When a woman loses her virginity, it's (a little crudely) said that she's been 'deflowered'.
Abuela removes the white flower right after the 'He wants 5 babies" remark from Dolores. A hint that she's seeing Isabella 'next step' in Abuela's plans.
I think she removed the white one because the others were pink. She was different, so it wasn't perfect. It demands order and perfection. But find your theory interesting.
I think the Bruno’s vision of how to make the candle bright again is not Mirabelle and Isabella hugging, it’s Mirabell and Alma hugging, the vision just showed a younger Version of alma
Honestly, abuela not realizing how much her actions hurt others is the lesser evil than if she would’ve been fully aware. But it’s an evil nonetheless. Mistakes shouldn’t be forgotten, they should be learned from.
As long as abuela truly feels remorse and actually TRIES to change her behavior, I think she’s deserving of forgiveness, and her family is more than likely to grant her that. But their pain is also real and shouldn’t be ignored to avoid making Alma feel guilty, they should all help each other heal and truly be a family
6:49 I thought alma wanted her to marry him was because he look like petro
Idk how to spell his name 😂
Same
Pedro
I think that the curtains were a cage but during what else can l do song the curtains lift up means she did not have to be captured in that cage of perfection anymore
Maybe slightly beside the topic, but I've seen several people comment in various places how Isabela nor anyone else never apologized to Mirabel for how they treated her before. And I just don't see it that way because, as they say, talk is cheap.
Maybe it's just me having been bullied at school and having the teachers make the bullies say sorry and then act as if the problem was solved, but I don't put any inherent value in verbal apologies. Someone saying 'sorry' doesn't undo the hurt I felt, but they can make sure I don't have to feel that way in the future. Honestly, I could care less if someone actually apologizes after they upset me, if they just change their behavior.
And we see plenty of that in the end of the movie. People are including Mirabel where they formerly ignored her, she's shown having actual moments of interaction with her sisters rather than being just them all doing their own thing in the same space. Everyone really acknowledges her and how hard she has always worked for the family in those moments, and that is beautiful.
Doesnt matter if you realize it or not, putting that much pressure on someone is NOT ok...all it does it break them down to where they're nothing more than a ticking timebomb of anger and frustration...and pushes them away from you...
I love Isabela's animation, it's so elegant and smooth.
I think the movie would have been better if the grandmother died and Mirabelle regained the miracle by bringing the family back together by bringing Bruno back into the fold, and by lightening the burden of expectation everyone felt imposed upon themselves by the grandmother
Now I just wanna watch the film again! Thanks for that as I've only seen it once and loved it!
Seeing the curtains as a cage makes sense! But they also, in retrospect, look like a large candle that has been burned for a while upside down for a while turned upside down--and someone who feels extreme pressure may also find themselves "burning the candle at both ends" to maintain all expectations.
Off topic but is it just me or when abuela is mad she looks like Gargamel from smurfs
I have such trouble with being okay with Abuela, I know Mirabel forgave, but if i was pushed to the side like her for so many years and disregarded despite trying to help the family: I would not have been able to. Yes, I have a family member I don't love, she is older (thankfully gone now) and reminds me of her. Thankfully, i didn't live her with nor her us for a majority of our life. Nothing was ever good enough for her. Nothing. She was miserable and you had to cater to her whims and desires, even then, it probably wasn't good enough. To me the whole, let's just quickly forgive someone after years of emotional pain from someone who disregarded another just because it's a Disney movie doesn't set right with me.
I think it would have been far more fitting if Mirabel received the essence of the gift in full after the house collapsed, because due to Abuela's behavior the entire family was stressed, strained and had issues due to her emotional problems she wouldn't address, I think Abuela should have _lost_ the gift due to how she treated her family, especially Mirabel. After the collapse is the one that finally the house recognizes as in charge and Abuela needs to be shocked as is the family. That there are always consequences to one's actions and from that point on Abuela learns the hard way, you don't disregard those different from you nor should you raise them to be clones of yourself. You don't use the gifts you have to lord over others to where it's your way or the highway (with all the other family members) and treat those that aren't as blessed/lucky as you as beneath you, which she did with Mirabel. Abuela didn't think to look outside of herself or listen to others, as a result, she hurt her family and loses the essence of the magic. The final nail in the coffin is how she reacted to Mirabel, the house, the essence of the magic was disappointed for her not seeing that Mirabel is her heir.
And the biggest thing I would love to see in this what if scenario, Mirabel doesn't shove Abuela into the basement despite not having a gift anymore and despite doing the same thing to Mirabel. Instead Mirabel speaks to the house and a room is created for Abuela. Showcasing Mirabel's kinder and more loving nature from the beginning. For did Abuela ever try to speak to the house to create a new room solely for Mirabel? Or just shove her elsewhere? She could supposedly communicate with the house thanks to being the candleholder and she never thought to ask? She never thought to at least find a way to build a room for Mirabel?
Based on my observation, being an outcast in your family doesn't hone your life. Although I have never experienced it myself since I was an only child, my friends do. It's quite depressing to think how their family treated them like someone. They do not acknowledge their achievements and often compare them with others. So, I'm always there for them to be comforting and make them feel love and care. Because I don't want them to rebel or choose the wrong path.
I like how most of this video doesn’t rly have anything to do with the curtains, it reminds me of how I just ramble on and get off topic all the time
I can't wait for more content from this world.
This could have been a 2-3 minute video my man
I always thought the disturbing detail was mariano wanting 5 babies with isabela and that's what the bed is there for, like imagine if they did get married.
Do another how from the beginning where mirabel was given the house as her door. Her gift was always to take her grandmother's place.
Lots and lots and lots of padding in this video, eh? "The curtains symbolize Isabella being trapped" would take 10 seconds to say and explain, but gotta stretch that to 11 minutes long.
Her cage shattered (along with the house but hey positives her cage has shattered) and then her prophecy came true.
The life of her dream not having the weight of extractions and having a strong bond with her family had became hers.
And her powers thrived like grapes on the vine because of Merabel getting her angry then very experimental with her powers.
Thanks
To me I think that Mirabel helped Isabela to have the freedom from their grandmother's grip not being prefect all the time and helped their sister relationship to grow to be close together.
Did you also notice that the curtains go up when Isabela was singing "What Else Can I Do" because she was doing what she wants?
Isabela is also isolated from the rest of the family because she can be perfect, so no one will come to support her. Mirabel gets sympathy and affection, Isabela just gets praise, adoration, and jealousy. Being the golden child is very isolating.