Skateboarding Knee pad Review, S-One VS Killer 187 Pro Knee Pads. from a OGs perspective.
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2017
- 187 killer knee pads vs S-One knee pads for skateboarding. I use my passes daily, I still skate both and both offer plenty of protection. I just wanted to share my like and dislikes about these pads. Thanks for watching and please subscribe.
![S-One S1 Pro Knee Pad [Gen 4.5] | Skateboard Kneepad Review (vs. ProDesigned/187 Killer Pads/ProTec)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/xInCxXtDeWE/mqdefault.jpg)
Good job man, another real world review! Funny i went and got some killer pads this week after watching how you bail on your knees! Haha . New Zealand is a bit limited in products but hopefully they will help me! I trying to push myself harder after watching you! No one wears pads here but at 42yrs i need em! Thanks mike.
Mike McIntosh 187 are awesome pads. I probably like them more if they would change the strap. They are comfy though.
Thanks so much for this detailed review. It was super helpful and my husband ordered the S1 knee pads and elbow pads and loves them. The velcro issue you mentioned in the video that happens with the Killer 187 knee pads would drive hom crazy and the S1 knee pads definitely are a cut above and don't have that issue. The S1 knee pads seemed a bit bulky when we received them - but in fact they are really comfortable and lightweight. Qulaity is excellent. The sizing chart is very detailed - so that you can get a good fit. Thanks again!
187 Killer Pro Derby pads for the win. Boneless, too. They've kept me in the game for years.
I've been a Skater in roller derby since 2011. 187s are a trusted brand but they are bulky compared to other brands.
Something I love about the 187 pro Derby pads is you can take out the foams and remove the caps so they are not damages during washing.
nice review again :) Good video!
If you can get a hand on the TSG Force V A, you should try them out. Those are really high class and super comfy.
Prodigal Sun Thank you for the insightful video. I am a young skipper looking in getting into the world of half pipes and bowls; I recently purchased a certified protec full cut helmet and am looking into buying knee pads, I will being purchasing S-Ones.
Zion D B right on bro, thanks for the comment. I'm glad your going to skate transition. 🤘
I've skated mini ramps but bowls and pipes are a different animal and I want to enjoy it not fight it. Head hits are more common and I want to focus on progression not painful bails.
Close the velcro before you wash them. Not sure if that's what you're doing or not but it will save the velcro over time. My knees are so beat that even with pads, I can't slide out.
Cool vid and yes! Keep skating!
Thanks Ben
Thanks for the review! I am little confused though. In your video it seems you like the S-One better. In the comments you recommend the 187. So which one is it? Which one allows you to move more freely? I plan on using them in big bowls on a surf skate. I want solid protection while still being able to bend my knees as much as possible (like kinda deep squats for rail grabs)...
I like the 187 much better
I have the 187 killer pads pro model. They are very big so maybe I'll try the S-one pad. It looks less bulky
It is less bulky for sure 👍
i wonder do you wear them both in the same size cause i wanna get s-one knee pads and if i get 187 i need size large do i need s-one also in large or do they fit larger
Nice review. I also hate the velcro tearing up the interior lining.
Per yesterday's discussion, I did some parts swapping... Krux and Indy are absolutely identical in geometry and parts. To the extent that all the parts are interchangeable (I swapped everything all around). Geometry and wheelbase are identical. Stock Krux bushings are the same as Independent "soft" bushings. I'm running Creature STFU 90a mediums in both and cannot tell a difference in the way they feel turning, but the Indy's are quite a bit heavier (perhaps stronger?) and I can say that to me, the Krux-equipped board feels lighter. Unless someone has a problem breaking Krux', likes the cachet of Indy's, or is a "dotard", there is no reason for spending more on the Indy's! The Krux are even lighter than the same size Indy's in hollow-forged... go figure. Haven't got to the Thunder vs Indy yet, was concentrating on my "street" setups.
Nicholas Sully awesome man. I've never even considered krux
Prodigal Sun it was fun. Switched up the hangers, baseplates, and even one of each and that really showed the weight difference.
I'm going to need to look for some krux now. thanks for your review.
Hello Nice review!! I will buy the S1 but my question is what is the right size for me. I measured my knee... 17 above knee,15 below knee, 14 1/2 knee.
What size do I have to order? Thanks in advance!!!
I'm not sure how to measure that.. I don't want to have you order something wrong.. 😂 I'm actually preferring the 187 knee pad a little.. It's a tad more cushy on the knees.. Knee gasket is a great but for under$30 also.. Thanks for the comment
Hey - How do the 187 Pro Knee pads compare to the Smith Scab Pro Knee Pads? Seems like it is the exact same build. Maybe same factory?
I'm locking for kneepads that isn't too bulky then the 187 derby seem good,but do you think they have fixed the strap problem now.
The S1 has a new gen 4 that also looks good not too bulky either.
Thanks for always rocking on👌😃
Idk, I think they are both bulky. Three strap isn't a problem it's just not finished as nice.
@@ProdigalSuns But the 187 doesn't look too big when you ride with them, some pro pads stick out alot more.
I ended up buying the Tsg all terrain,I think they will do fine on the skate parks and some street maybe too.
I also a have pro Tec pro that will be used if needed,the Tsg all terrain seems to have good protection and isn't very bulky.
How much was the s-one pad
187s are great on impacts, IMO. They are robust and minimizes impact more than other pads I've tried. However, I've had chronic trouble with them slipping on simple kneeslides. Two different pairs. Lots of people have good success with them, though I can't stand pads sliding.
I've had good results with Smith Scab Elites, but they aren't as beefy so hard impacts are felt a bit more than the 187s. They don't slip nearly as much as the 187s for me, so I'll keep rocking them for now. However, I may try the S-One pads when it's time to get new pads.
I've never had mine slip ever, you are using the pro pads and not the fly knee pads right. I am also probably is a size to large also.
I do think they protect me better that my s-one knee pads.
Prodigal Sun yes, I was using the 187 Pro pads, not the Fly models or the Derby pads.
It may have much to do with how I fall when I do fall. On the 187s for me, the top pad where the Velcro strap is Velcro attached down on the front, the actual pad was completely deteriorated from falls. Good pads- super beefy, but after two sets and the same issues, they aren’t for me personally. I haven’t had that same issue with the Smith Scabs. I do, however, feel it on a good impact slam in the Scabs.
handywithshovels yes I feel the same with the s-one pads.. Good feed back thanks for your input.
@@handywithshovels just curious, do you wear a knee gasket under the 187 knee pad? I was told it will help them from sliding and also protects your soft tissue on around your knees. I am reading reviews as well to find the right set for myself before investing.
fyi, since it didn't seem like you knew, "derby" on your Killer pads refers to Roller Derby, which is what those pads were specifically made for, not that they can't be used for other forms of skating. I have heard great things about both of these pads, and I'm looking at reviews because I'm currently trying to decide between them. I do wish you had gotten more experience, at least a comparable amount, out of the S-Ones before reviewing them.
Heather Holder yes I was aware as I bought them at a derby store. They offer the most protection. I still have a complaint about the straps. Thanks for your comment.
Heather Holder the s,one does not offer the same protection in my opinion.. That being said it is very well built..
Thanks, that's helpful because after a knee injury, protection is my main concern.
Hi, how the s-one pads went after a year? I'm between 187 pro pads and s-one gen 3 pads, what do you recommend? thanks beforehand!
I actually bought another pair of 187 kneepads because I like them so much better compared to the S one.. definitely for me it's more cushion and more comfortable
@@ProdigalSuns damn! I was going to pull the trigger on some s-one gen 3 but maybe the 187 will suit me more... had knee surgery a year ago and I'm starting to skate big ramps and do the tricks I used to do but I don't feel runing down the ramps everytime I dont land it hahahaha Thanks for the feedback! are the 187 pro pads (non derby) true to size? keep skating and cheers from Spain!
@@eloifilms I'm 5'11 tall and 215 pounds stocky build. The XL skate knee pad in just about to small.. The derby has a XXL if you are a larger person I recommend the derby pads. They even have more padding.. You can't tell a difference looking at them..
@@eloifilms I strongly recommend 187 though. You won't regret it..
@@ProdigalSuns much thanks! I'm getting some 187 pads then! I'm roughly over 6ft tall and 172 pounds and I think I'm between an M or an L size, should I go for the biggest of both?
Mahalo 😎🤙
Dis Hayn 🤘🤙
187 pads a lot of ppl I see out here wear them do they run big cause I'm a medium size
I think they run small, I just had to get the next size up!
Hi Bro!. Im from México City. My question is where can I buy the knee pads of 187????
If not your local skate shop, I would suggest Google..👍
I’m not sure they’re meant to go through a washing machine... I’m getting a new set soon and will be getting knee gaskets too which are easier to wash. In theory I won’t sweat on the actual pads..
I'm just saying they'll still last you years.
@@ProdigalSuns I'm sure they will. Just ordered some, can't wait!..
Are you able to jam the padding from the 187s in the S1s?
Frankenstein them to a point ?
I doubt it. My 187 2xl derby are way bigger. Maybe the 187 skate version. I was told the derby were longer
@@ProdigalSuns their wider and flatter but they are the right dog for the right job , very similar to street skateing knee pads but more padding in the withed and the pro skate 187s are bulkier out from your knee.
It depends how you skate and how you need to distribute your weight .
Derby, hard but flat ground falls that you most likly was flung by some behemoth and it may be your face , the side of your knee and your leg that takes the brunt and derby players cant bail, we have the wheels attached to our feet.
So yeah they are bigger in suface area because of the way we fall but i used street skate knee pads for derby too as they have a bigger surface area but their no where as padded as derby knee pads.
The street skate ones still depend on you slidding from a lower center of gravity.
Now the park / ramp/ vert / bowl pro pads its all about falling to your knees in a controlled manner to slide down safely so thats a deliberate hard downward force on to your knee caps themselves.
It all about the thickness of the padding not the withed.
But im talking about the 187 pro series pads with the interchangeable knee caps , nothing with the rivets in it like yours.
But i was just chatting to a big boy thats of OG status and he wears a knee gasket under the 187 dreby knee pads and he has found his Cinderella fit ... just loves it.
Maybe a knee gasket under the s1's for some more padding
@@ProdigalSuns dont buy fresh meat packs/ tri packs .
They call them fresh meat packs in derby as its what all the rookies/ newbies buy and you can tell they are fresh meet by looking at their kit .
They have just got a set regarless if its going to fit or work for them based on a brand name but tri packs are always the base model entry level kit no matter what you paid as with fresh meat packs even the best brand in the world will not sell their best product as a tri kit and if anything has rivets in it , you know thats the base model as they are made to be disposable, and thats why in the pro gear you will find things like derby pro gear that you have to buy individually as you may like the fit in one brand of knee pads to what i like and for instance, i hate the normal bog standard skateboarding wrist guards with a passion.
I prefer a few diffent roller blading ones and only 2 brands of derby style ones that i use for transition skating but the ones like yours ..
Oh no , wont do them .
Owned a adrenal set of wrist guards the same style as yours but diffent brand obviously and used them for an hr or so and then gave them away that day.
I hated them. I cant hand plant with them and i actully dont feel suported in them at all but im use to the cup style wrist guards , they slide well and im always freaki g out that the big lump in the ones like yours will get snagged up on the coping doing stuff like death drops .
Sus out buying individual bits of kit that dose the job you want it to do .
Your gear is an investment , sort of an i insurance policy on your wellbeing and safty.
Wrist gurds that dont fit , dont work.
Knee pads with no padding are a fashion accessory
Elbow pads that dont stay in place or chaffe are a distraction and you have to be present in the moment when your skating or bad thing happen.
Its just like setting up a board.
You dont get a pre built, their for kids.
You work out what size deck you like in withed and length what shape you like , how mellow or concave you like it , do you like a big round nose and or a short tapered tail thats just made for tray flips or a big ass funky shaped heavy board thats just plain out heavy duty and doing crazy drops and gap outs over stairs or a longer type of board thats better for ramps ?
Then its the whole game of nuance with trucks , light , hollows, magnesium or forged , hight , wethed, do you want riser pads , rails , tail plates, soft bushings or hard bushings , do you like a lose or tight truck , what size wheel, what deromiter , big ball bearings for big impact or just a pack of redz... they roll .spacers or not , shelds or not ?
You kit can be just as technical as sorting out a new board thats your custom fit.
My kit is a mix of skateboarding gear, derby gear, just plain out quad skating gear and inline skate gear .
I dont inline skate at all but i do quad skate and ride a board.
All agressive skate stuff is there to opens up your choices rather that just going for the big 4 thats sponcered adds on Google.
Thats tripple 8, protec, killer 187 and s1 with safty gear.
And you have not even said anything about ankle protection or shin protection... there is heaps of stuff out there to help us remain skating for life.
How many 49 yo women do you know that hits the bowl on a 8.1" anti hero deck... lol
But one word of advice. Dont even bother with the pro tec knee pads, they dont slid well and your most likly to face plant from my experience.
My dentist loved skaters that use pro tec knee pads
Wait are you ment to wash your knee pads
Wash pads on the top shelf of the dishwasher, and remove any hard plastic, if you can. Line dry. Your pads will last a decade longer this way.
That sounds great thanks for that 👍
Glad to be of service! Works great for ball caps with stiff bills, as well.
Ha good idea! Do you use dish soap or just straight water?
@@nlights6 Dish soap. There will usually be some residue, which I end up hosing off outside before leaving them to dry in the sun.
@@manysnakes Ok great - thanks for the info!
To me the s one fit a bit better, but the187 go on quicker.... good review
Barry Marks yeah I see that. I'll tell you though after skating hard three days in a row and crashing a lot using my knee pads heavy. I think the 187 on my knee offers much better protection not so dense and way more cushy on hard impacts. If 187 would make a tougher strap in my book they can't be beat so far.
+Barry Marks my knee is actually a little sore. Lol
Lol, I will say I trust your impact test, you skate hard and push it; it gives back what you give
How tall are you and what size knee pads do you have there? The S-Ones
5'11" stocky build "legs" lol
The 187 are derby pads XXL XXXL
Prodigal Sun ok, I’m gonna make a purchase and I can’t decide between the S-ones and 187. I’m 6’1” and this is all new to me...gonna convert to the bowl.
@@troytree123 I like the 187 way better..
Prodigal Sun I see, alright. Based on your video about trucks, I’m riding the Ace 66 and I’m loving them.
@@troytree123 right on 🤘
If they're good enough for Steve Caballero, they're good enough for me
why wash em all the time???
Jim Dor because I live in Texas.. Lots of sweat, and sweat stinks after a while.. Lol
Jim Dor so your knee no smell like ass
Lol
Skating vert indoors in South Florida ... You're SOAKED to the bone with the heat and humidity 8 months out of the year. I'm 50 and I skate vert hard 3 times a week. Been using 187's with gaskets underneath for about 15 years, they've had their design issues over the years but I'd give them an 8 out of 10 overall. Love the S1 Lifer Helmet and deciding whether to give their knee pads a shot.
Good info thanks 👍 I hear the humidity there is awful.. Props to be skating in it.. Do you consider bet to be safer, so sketchy to me though.. Lol
yes thanks at 53 im still skating vert and i need some new knee pads that are worth a shit
Use a lighter to melt the edges
I like the s one, it's got the cool hammer skin symbol
Don't ever wash pads. Lysol or whatever disinfectant spray and sunlight is better at removing stink and cheese. The materials will last longer also
Rollerskatin' pads 😆
Who puts their knee pads through the wash
Tim Ruhland I do... Lol
Do you wash yours by hand ?
I don’t wash them very much at all and when I do I just do it with a little water and soap
Tim Ruhland I live in Austin TX in the summer here you sweat a lot on a 70 degree day in the morning. My pads would run of other skates in minutes.. Lol
Most of us have a couple of sets for that reason.. Lol
I'll ask my wife if she'll hand wash.. 😆 👌
No really, that would have them last longer.
You must be out in Cali right. Nothing like dry weather 🌞
i wash mine occasionally in the washer. if they are only mildly foul, I put em in the shower and toss em outside to dry
Sorry but who washes knee pads
The person who doesn't stink at the skate park. Lol
Who puts their pads in the wash?
I do it every couple of weeks..
Who thought he would skate I thought he would do construction before I saw rhe Indy hat
Us old heads do both. 😂
Ok is it just me or does the S-One logo look like a swastika? 😬