I'm about to purchase a set of these because I just bought the MIM irons. I've always used Vokey but hate the way they feel. Looking forward to the Cobras!
@@DeezzzzNutzzzz Sorry, but I was a Cleveland player with the entire bag long before I switched to Vokey, then Callaway. I just sold 2 RTX wedges. And my TA 3s, Launcher, Classic and Hi-Bore. Nobody can touch Callaway technology. Just hit their 4H yesterday 220 and I'm 69. Mavrik all the way!
@@LaugherOne Im talking sticky wedges when it comes to Cleveland. I play an epic flash sub zero driver odyssey stroke lab putter and srixon irons. Callaway makes a great product and the jaws n mack daddys are nice they just dont come close to the rtx grooves and the softness is second to none strictly speaking wedges when talking Cleveland. And the only irons I like more than my srixon zx5 are the new p770s those are a real step up from the p790s
@@Followthepath89 Must have been you lol i have the rtx 2 in my 56 and rtx 4 in my 60 i have a 48 vokey low bounce thats strictly approach these days but as far as feel and the ability to play every shot these rtx are the truth
One exception is wet spin. the Ping Glide 3.0 with the Pearl chrome 2.0 finish is the KING of wet spin. Barely loses 1,000 rpm compared to dry conditions Look at TXG’s UA-cam wet wedge test. Most of the time playing in damp or dew conditions this makes a major difference. That’s the deciding factor for me.
Totally agree Stephen, Spin retention in wet/damp condition has to be a major consideration. A Wedge that Spins at 10k rpm when tested indoors is no good if the Spin drops down to 5k rpm if the Grass in damp! Which in the UK is basically all the time!
@@banditbaker1675 💯 Bandit. I’m thinking Ping i210’s also for the same reason, they have the same face finish as the Glide 3.0’s. Will be my go too irons when I go for my custom fit next spring here in NY !
I like my Ben Hogans and are more affordable than the ridiculously increasing cost of wedges. I can afford them but sometimes I think prices of all golf clubs are kinda out of control.
Yes I agree they are good wedges,but you can't get them in the UK and by the time you have paid the extortionate shipping and import duties and handling charges they are just as dear,and of course you can't try them out or get fitted for them .
Happy Wilson are included, best cast wedges I've played are the FG Tour Tractions. I normally play forged so Mizuno for me, though I still have MD 2 Forged Tour Grinds lying about.
I recently ordered an end of line Vokey SM7 but it was out of stock so they sent me a SM8 instead for the same price i. e. £89.99. It is by far the best wedge I have ever had.
I use the Callaway MD4 54-14. it works well on chips and short pitches around the green as well as longer pitches. I like the way I can make the chips take one skip and then bite if I want to or hit it to run. My lob wedge is a Maltby with a very wide sole for both sand shots around the green and high pitches when I have short-sided myself. The sole is wide enough that I can hit the pitches like a sand shot ane slam the club under the ball with a thud. The ball pops straight up and stops quickly. It isn't the usual technique, but I find it to be easier than what is considered the usual methiod.
I have a mix set with 54° and 58° MG2s and a 62° RTX ZipCore (purchased after the MG2s) and if I could do it over again I'd buy all ZipCores. The face just feels so pure, it has some serious bite. But i bought the MG2s on manufacturers clearance, so the price just made sense at the time.
@@georgejung5429 RTX 4 but zipcore are out now. I found Vokey quite heavy in the head with a dead sort of feel. Wedges are a personal preference though a bit like putters
How could they leave out the best wedges ever created by man? The Kirkland Signature 3 pack for $170! ($56.66 each) Good review. It was nice to see that all of them were fairly good, but the best did stand out just a bit. I'd love to see you add some more of the less common wedges to compare, cobra, bettinardi, honma, pxg, etc. And compare those cheap wedges to the mainstream ones as well, the krikland, bombtec, maltby, pinemeadow, etc.
If you don’t use the same bounce / sole shape, it’s almost meaningless to compare spin rates across wedges. All win spin similarly if strike is consistent. If getting massively more spin from one of them, probably a different grind/bounce resulting in a lower strike location on average
Got the zipcore and absolutely love it. For me its amazin have it in 52 and can even play it off green chips and still get loads and loads of spin also have the Callaway 2019 pm grind 56 for the versatility shots and love it but that zipcore is on another lvl
Been gaming the vokey sm8 and quiet simply i haven't played a better wedge but just purchased a set of callaway cb wedges to give me more help in the winter as I'm a digger and need bigger bounces in soft conditions
If you hold a number of clubs in one hand like a bunch of flowers, the shafts rub together and scratch the chrome finish, which leads to rust spots on the shafts. I learned this the hard way after repeatedly carrying my putter and a wedge to the green. After a time, the shafts of both had multiple rust spots, ruining the looks and the trade in value.
I tried many clubs that are available in left hand - mizuno is not. Also because of the variety of bounce etc I ended up with the sm7 in different grinds and lofts for example the 58/04 which other makes don’t make such a low bounce. It is my best club in the bag.
Look, the reason Cleveland was praised by pros in the first place is that Cleveland was the only clubmaker who offered a huge variety of lofts and bounce combinations. Other clubmakers couldn't profit selling 53* SW with 14* bounce, or 64* LW with 8* bounce. Not enough demand, but Cleveland did, probably at a loss. The only real difference is the hunk of metal called a wedge is the type of metal and the groove technology. Softer metal feels great, wears out fast. The grooves are pretty much limited by the rules, and manufacturers have taken it as far as legal. So it's basically a matter of personal preference, because they're all pretty much the same.
@@paulmcgee1867 Grind is an oversold club option. It doesn't really matter. PXG wedges all have the identical grind. Grind is a salesman's attempt to make you feel special. If you know how to use a wedge, grind doesn't matter enough to worry about it.
Love the look of those muscle back wedges, but outside of a lob wedge, I personally prefer cavity back wedges for their forgiveness on full shots and even pitches. I have ping G30 gap and sand wedges to match the rest of my irons.
I'm running 2004 big bertha irons. Got 4i to 10i and the wedge is 50°. I lean to like the vokey based on review, but looking to get a versitile 56° as my workhorse wedge. You find the cavity back allows versatility?
@@willywantoknow2563 No it doesnt really allow much versatility. I would never open up a G30 wedge and try a flop shot or anything like that. But I have a vokey 60 degree wedge to use in those situations anyway. With the G30 sand wedge, im personally just looking for consistency and forgiveness. But im a 15 handicap so you may be better and looking for more.
Great content. I switched from JAWS to CBX2. I’m 10 handicap and feel short is my strength. I kept my JAWS wedges for sometime and compared to CBX2 for over 100’s of shots at my club. CBX2 was more consistent, closer to the pin on average, and more control. I do wish there were more options for grind combo’s but its really is that much better. I found the ping glides were excellent as well. Cavity back will help 95% of players. BTW great camera angles - suggest standing more still while talking. Look forward to future videos.
I’ve owned all except the new Mizuno ES. I’d include the Mizuno T20’s in here. They are classified as a current 2020 wedge... I believe they feel the best, partially cause they’re only one of two forged options. Great wedge
It has never made sense to me that the vast majority of Golfers play Cavity Back Irons (for forgiveness), yet they use Bladed Wedges!? Also I don't understand Golfers who swear by Forged Irons because of their "Superior feel", yet play Wedges that are Cast?! Mind Blowing!
Shocker, you picked the vokey, called that one. All of these companies are testing their wedges against it to make sure the spin competes with it. So how can it outperform on spin...well may it be that you swing the most confidently with that wedge because you have played it your whole life...
Cobra MIM wedges changed my life. Used JAWS prior, the MIM have such an amazing feel.
I'm still using my cobra pur wedges. Just can't seem to quit them.
I'm about to purchase a set of these because I just bought the MIM irons. I've always used Vokey but hate the way they feel. Looking forward to the Cobras!
Just picked up the Vokey SM8 60/04T (WedgeWorks) and the 56/12D. Couldn't be happier with them so far.
I move in and out between Vokey SM7 and Cleveland with different bounces, both are great 👍🏻
I don’t think I could love my SM7s any more than I do lol
I have the SM8 in 56 and 60 and it’s absolute money. Feel, spin, control...when I have my swing and rhythm going it’s perfection every time.
I changed from Vokey SM 7 to Callaway Jaws 5 and could not be happier. I feel that the Jaws have a lot more spin
As another Jaws fan, note the lack of discussion on grooves.
I have a Mack Daddy 4 - 52 and I love it honestly. The Callaways are silky
I traded in 5 Vokey SM5 wedges to get 3 Callaway Jaws. The soft feel of Jaws is unmatched. I now have 6 Jaws wedges, from 50* to 60*.
Only thing better than the jaws is the rtx which is funny because Roger now makes the jaws but if you havent tried the rtx you should softest ever
@@DeezzzzNutzzzz Sorry, but I was a Cleveland player with the entire bag long before I switched to Vokey, then Callaway. I just sold 2 RTX wedges. And my TA 3s, Launcher, Classic and Hi-Bore. Nobody can touch Callaway technology. Just hit their 4H yesterday 220 and I'm 69. Mavrik all the way!
@@LaugherOne Im talking sticky wedges when it comes to Cleveland. I play an epic flash sub zero driver odyssey stroke lab putter and srixon irons. Callaway makes a great product and the jaws n mack daddys are nice they just dont come close to the rtx grooves and the softness is second to none strictly speaking wedges when talking Cleveland. And the only irons I like more than my srixon zx5 are the new p770s those are a real step up from the p790s
@@DeezzzzNutzzzz I had rtx -3 and they where bollocks .... switched to vokey might have just been me though lol 😝
@@Followthepath89 Must have been you lol i have the rtx 2 in my 56 and rtx 4 in my 60 i have a 48 vokey low bounce thats strictly approach these days but as far as feel and the ability to play every shot these rtx are the truth
One exception is wet spin. the Ping Glide 3.0 with the Pearl chrome 2.0 finish is the KING of wet spin. Barely loses 1,000 rpm compared to dry conditions
Look at TXG’s UA-cam wet wedge test. Most of the time playing in damp or dew conditions this makes a major difference. That’s the deciding factor for me.
Totally agree Stephen, Spin retention in wet/damp condition has to be a major consideration.
A Wedge that Spins at 10k rpm when tested indoors is no good if the Spin drops down to 5k rpm if the Grass in damp! Which in the UK is basically all the time!
@@banditbaker1675 💯 Bandit. I’m thinking Ping i210’s also for the same reason, they have the same face finish as the Glide 3.0’s. Will be my go too irons when I go for my custom fit next spring here in NY !
@@stephendibari5010 👍 Good shoice
Picked up a 58 and 54 zipcore a couple weeks ago...they are amazing and a huge upgrade to the RTX-3s and 4s
Same. Just bought a 54 zip core and a 58 full face yesterday. Feel great. I’m excited for them to arrive.
I like my Ben Hogans and are more affordable than the ridiculously increasing cost of wedges. I can afford them but sometimes I think prices of all golf clubs are kinda out of control.
Yes I agree they are good wedges,but you can't get them in the UK and by the time you have paid the extortionate shipping and import duties and handling charges they are just as dear,and of course you can't try them out or get fitted for them .
@@GRAMDAVNO1 global golf
@@australianpatriot cheers .
Happy Wilson are included, best cast wedges I've played are the FG Tour Tractions. I normally play forged so Mizuno for me, though I still have MD 2 Forged Tour Grinds lying about.
Fortunately these a forged
I recently ordered an end of line Vokey SM7 but it was out of stock so they sent me a SM8 instead for the same price i. e. £89.99. It is by far the best wedge I have ever had.
Where did you order from?
@@lucaszarzecki3035 Scotsdale Golf
Cleveland RTX4 - don’t need anything else, superb performance and keep it the bag as long as I can!!!
Vokeys are never a bad choice though...
I got the RTX3 in 52, 56, and 60. I absolutely love them. Will probably buy the 4s or zipcore when it's time for new ones
After moving to the taylormade milled grind 2 I doubt I'll ever be changing. The perfect wedge imo. Looks and performance
I couldn't agree More!
Perfect Wedge ⛳
What did you move from?
I have the vokeys, thinking of moving myself.
I use the Callaway MD4 54-14. it works well on chips and short pitches around the green as well as longer pitches. I like the way I can make the chips take one skip and then bite if I want to or hit it to run. My lob wedge is a Maltby with a very wide sole for both sand shots around the green and high pitches when I have short-sided myself. The sole is wide enough that I can hit the pitches like a sand shot ane slam the club under the ball with a thud. The ball pops straight up and stops quickly. It isn't the usual technique, but I find it to be easier than what is considered the usual methiod.
I have a mix set with 54° and 58° MG2s and a 62° RTX ZipCore (purchased after the MG2s) and if I could do it over again I'd buy all ZipCores. The face just feels so pure, it has some serious bite. But i bought the MG2s on manufacturers clearance, so the price just made sense at the time.
Taylormade hi-toe are my wedges of choice 👍
Could you do another test on the cavity back wedges for high handicap golfers ?
Moved from Vokey to Cleveland, excellent clubs.
Which Cleveland?
I have vokeys, I fancy a change too, are the a softer feel?
@@georgejung5429 RTX 4 but zipcore are out now. I found Vokey quite heavy in the head with a dead sort of feel. Wedges are a personal preference though a bit like putters
@@templemat thanks sir. :-)
I'd be more interested in the Mizuno T20 over the ES 20. But not giving up my Bettinardi H2.
I’ve only owned Cleveland rtx4’s in the black coating but I like the shape and feel of them so I’ll be sticking with Cleveland for awhile
Really like the look of the RTX zipcore
How could they leave out the best wedges ever created by man? The Kirkland Signature 3 pack for $170! ($56.66 each)
Good review. It was nice to see that all of them were fairly good, but the best did stand out just a bit. I'd love to see you add some more of the less common wedges to compare, cobra, bettinardi, honma, pxg, etc. And compare those cheap wedges to the mainstream ones as well, the krikland, bombtec, maltby, pinemeadow, etc.
I went with a set of ping glide 3.0 last season for something easier to hit as I just started golf this season.
Yea for real cobra mim wedges are by far the best..... good thing they weren't put on a list with any titleist wedge, that would of been an insult...
If you don’t use the same bounce / sole shape, it’s almost meaningless to compare spin rates across wedges. All win spin similarly if strike is consistent. If getting massively more spin from one of them, probably a different grind/bounce resulting in a lower strike location on average
Got the zipcore and absolutely love it. For me its amazin have it in 52 and can even play it off green chips and still get loads and loads of spin also have the Callaway 2019 pm grind 56 for the versatility shots and love it but that zipcore is on another lvl
The T20 wedge would have been the model of Mizuno that is in line with the rest on test here
Great review as always interesting and full of good information. Many thanks and for testing brands like Wilson,Srixon and Cleveland.
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Ben Hogan Equalizers are they best I every play, just order new set in Black.
Been gaming the vokey sm8 and quiet simply i haven't played a better wedge but just purchased a set of callaway cb wedges to give me more help in the winter as I'm a digger and need bigger bounces in soft conditions
Love my Vokey. Did not get on well with the Hi-Toe or Ping Glide. Price difference too close to call! Cost per round is the same.
If you hold a number of clubs in one hand like a bunch of flowers, the shafts rub together and scratch the chrome finish, which leads to rust spots on the shafts. I learned this the hard way after repeatedly carrying my putter and a wedge to the green. After a time, the shafts of both had multiple rust spots, ruining the looks and the trade in value.
I tried many clubs that are available in left hand - mizuno is not. Also because of the variety of bounce etc I ended up with the sm7 in different grinds and lofts for example the 58/04 which other makes don’t make such a low bounce. It is my best club in the bag.
Great information Joel! Thank you for sharing.
Look, the reason Cleveland was praised by pros in the first place is that Cleveland was the only clubmaker who offered a huge variety of lofts and bounce combinations. Other clubmakers couldn't profit selling 53* SW with 14* bounce, or 64* LW with 8* bounce. Not enough demand, but Cleveland did, probably at a loss. The only real difference is the hunk of metal called a wedge is the type of metal and the groove technology. Softer metal feels great, wears out fast. The grooves are pretty much limited by the rules, and manufacturers have taken it as far as legal. So it's basically a matter of personal preference, because they're all pretty much the same.
If grind is forgotten yes
@@paulmcgee1867 Grind is an oversold club option. It doesn't really matter. PXG wedges all have the identical grind. Grind is a salesman's attempt to make you feel special. If you know how to use a wedge, grind doesn't matter enough to worry about it.
@@LaugherOne sure! 😂
Love the look of those muscle back wedges, but outside of a lob wedge, I personally prefer cavity back wedges for their forgiveness on full shots and even pitches. I have ping G30 gap and sand wedges to match the rest of my irons.
I'm running 2004 big bertha irons. Got 4i to 10i and the wedge is 50°.
I lean to like the vokey based on review, but looking to get a versitile 56° as my workhorse wedge.
You find the cavity back allows versatility?
@@willywantoknow2563 No it doesnt really allow much versatility. I would never open up a G30 wedge and try a flop shot or anything like that. But I have a vokey 60 degree wedge to use in those situations anyway. With the G30 sand wedge, im personally just looking for consistency and forgiveness. But im a 15 handicap so you may be better and looking for more.
was going to be the sm8 before you started the video. very obvious
The rust I’ve heard will also help with spin as well, let me know if I’m wrong
Good video~
Thank you for sharing a good video.
Great content. I switched from JAWS to CBX2. I’m 10 handicap and feel short is my strength. I kept my JAWS wedges for sometime and compared to CBX2 for over 100’s of shots at my club. CBX2 was more consistent, closer to the pin on average, and more control. I do wish there were more options for grind combo’s but its really is that much better. I found the ping glides were excellent as well. Cavity back will help 95% of players. BTW great camera angles - suggest standing more still while talking. Look forward to future videos.
Ping Glide and SM8 all day.
I’d like that mizuno es21, since I have mizuno irons. But it goes for close to 200$ new!! ridiculous!! I want a good wedge for under 100$
I’ve owned all except the new Mizuno ES. I’d include the Mizuno T20’s in here. They are classified as a current 2020 wedge... I believe they feel the best, partially cause they’re only one of two forged options. Great wedge
Zipcores are great
Titleist vokey SM8 by far
Big Surprise Joel likes Titleist 🤣
Titleist more like Titfeist
Hi. What about the PXG wedges? Thank you
It has never made sense to me that the vast majority of Golfers play Cavity Back Irons (for forgiveness), yet they use Bladed Wedges!?
Also I don't understand Golfers who swear by Forged Irons because of their "Superior feel", yet play Wedges that are Cast?! Mind Blowing!
Vokeys are now getting some excellent discounts
Vokey no jokey
I am happy with my Miura's, plenty of stick in my hands and perfect balance
Zipcore!
The Mizuno is the best wedge you had there but you couldn’t test it properly ?
This was a total waste of time
Agree with you , what was the point of having it in the review as it was a different spec and he didn’t test it .
Callaway Sure Out
How come you don’t have the F2 wedges
Vokey! Yaaawwwwwnnnnn boring!! We’re was the MiM wedge from cobra
Callaway Mack daddy cb
I am fine with Titleist winning
They designed that wedge to rust so that it’ll offer you more spin!
Can you not stand still....or was it a windy day...??
Ping glide 3.0 for me in a 56 and 60
He had to go to the bathroom.
Kirkland wedges changed my whole outlook on over priced clubs. By far best wedges for the money!
Which ones did you get?
Shocker, you picked the vokey, called that one. All of these companies are testing their wedges against it to make sure the spin competes with it. So how can it outperform on spin...well may it be that you swing the most confidently with that wedge because you have played it your whole life...
Edel!
Nice review, but dude, stand still when you’re addressing a camera.
I’m just giving a hard time here but did he have to pee the whole video?
Thanks for the feedback enjoyed your opinion
Joel, I enjoyed the video but found watching you shifting your weight while you were talking during the video distracting. Thanks
It would also help if he spit the marbles out of his mouth if we are picking nits.
Pointless test. Joel is a Titleist Tart and there was never any other likely winner.
holy shit can this guy talk, on and on and on
Surprise surprise, Vokey wins. Bit of snobbery going on.
This discussion pretty much begins & ends with the Vokeys, 95%+ of the pga tour can't be wrong.
Vokey*
The Mizuno T20 should've been in there for sure!!
Give me a Becu Ping Eye 2 Sw wedge any day over all of these.
Never been a fan of Vokey, way over rated and just don't feel great. I'll take Mack Daddy or Cleveland over them all day
Vokey for real.......
Is Joel sponsored by FJ?
Did dude need to piss when he was filming this? He's rocking back and forth like a child thats been holding it too long
Idiotic comment. What’s that got to do with golf?
@@henrymcvey6538 Did you watch the video?
Great review , but can you please STOP rocking from side to side when you're talking its really annoying .
I thought he was on a ship 😂
Was not really impressed by sm8