Mark old son I’ve been watching your channel since the beginning , it makes me laugh ,you’ve been testing forever , pushing the boundaries on everything golf related , you don’t swim with the current , you’ve been saying all this stuff for years and the net and general opinions are catching up posting videos confirming subjects you did ages ago . Never stop bruh , people always need someone to pick on , but you are great at this , good work guys . I think we have never been so fortunate to have clubs with such tech , you could really buy any brand and they will be good clubs , it does come back to personal preference or looks and feel , and as a creature of habit we tend to always go from past experience with brands we’ve had success .
Cleveland CBX's have changed my game. I played second-hand Vokeys, Wilson FG Tour, Cleveland RTX, but recently picked up the CBX wedges. You'll have to pry them from my dead hands. As a 16 hcp, the CBX's forgiveness inspires so much confidence. Misses are much less pronounced and still keep you close to your target.
TXG actually tested them and found out that they are as consistent or even better than other wedges. Spin numbers equal also. So why should anyone game those fancy SM8:s when you can get more consistency and equal spin with CBX.
So much sense spoken in this video. So much understanding from the consumer perspective and the manufactures perspective. Incredibly helpful. Mark and Coach, just stop it would you? Just make videos of new drivers bombing it the furthest! Stop being so unique and helpful on UA-cam to us golfers! Stop being so biased and praising brands you don’t play.....sheeeeesh. UA-cam Golf is not what it used to be....
My wedges in use are Mizuno 50 (blue), vokey 54 (black) and Taylormade hi-toe 60 (bronze). Different colours help with getting the right on out the bag!
All about mucking about with them and finding out what is most consistent and has versatility for you as an individual. Wedges are the club you have to play with creatively the most in the bag
I was in the market for buying some new wedges this year, got totally confused with how many options are out there. In the end I ordered some Ben Hogan equaliser wedges. I am absolutely over the moon With them, I would recommend anyone to give them a go. When you order the wedges all you need to know is your loft and lie options, shaft no confusing bounce and ground options.
Got fitted for SM8's. First time fitted for wedges. Absolute must. They have transformed by game. Gone from ropey chipper to massively confident. Hated tight/bare lies. 60-04L now my favourite club (after my 2 iron !)
I just purchased the new Cleveland RTX Zipcore 58/10/Mid based on my comparison with the top brands in the store and my previous experience with the Jaws from Callaway. I like the feel as well as the looks of the satin chrome finish. I think the new added grooves will help me gain more back spin also.
I never thought much of wedge fitting but then had a chance to get for Vokeys by an experienced fitter on grass and the S Grind was a great matchup for my swing. Will never go away from them now
I've been using Cleveland's since the mid-90s. Having said that, I'm currently gaming Vokey SM7s as I was playing Titleist irons. I've not got the Titleists in the bag anymore, so I'm thinking that I'll go back to Cleveland with my next change. I like Coach's "I'm just hearing ball" comment. During lockdown, I practiced chipping in my back garden with headphones and music. Its amazing how the sound of impact affects perception of feel.
That last comment about fitting is so interesting. I’ve been for numerous fittings through my golfing life and I’ve never seen wedges in a fitting cart or ever been fitted for wedges. Even when I bought a complete new set up, I got completely fitted properly for irons and was then just given the wedges that complimented the set in the lofts that created the right gap in loft. Looking back now I should have been testing them properly for bounce etc.
I had a 2 hour wedge fitting lesson at Precision Golf and I went with SM7 last year, I tried all of the brands but Titelist have all of the bounce, grinds etc it gave me extra confidence to choose the right club for my gapping.
I adore this discussion. It was just loose and interesting. Lots of analysis and opinion of how a bunch of clubs and how they feel in many situations. What a blast.
Just bought a mint condition Titleist SM5 f grind 52 degree from the local pro for £35... tried it first, brilliant from 100 yards..great advice and price..
for me it's all about how it looks down behind the ball...I need that leading edge to look tight to the ground...if the leading edge seems to float up a bit it's gone...great vid boys
I have found technique is so much more important than brand etc. I was chipping them close and some with more backspin with my Hogan FW15's blade wedges equally to two others this weekend using Vokey SM7's. I was considering getting new wedges but after last weekend, decided to spend more time practicing driving & putting!
Club Champion did a blind test where the fitter handed me wedges and we did a test on a lie board with a sticker to see where my impact was. Basically their goal was to find the wedge that had the right bounce / grind for my swing as every manufacturer is slightly different. Their attitude was every wedge option they have can get you great results as they're all very similar, but you need the one who's sole and grind fit your swing the best. In my case, it was down to the Cleveland RTX and Vokey SM8s, and I preferred the feel of the Vokeys. But I got fit by them for my previous set 2 years ago into the Callaway MD3 Forged series, and those wedges did very well for me! So yeah, get fit... especially on the scoring clubs where it counts the most (and that include the putter).
My first golf coach asked me, "Do you normally hit your wedge shots short or long?" "Uh, mostly short." "So why do you want more back-spin?". It was and remains a good question.
The largest pro shop in my area does a multivendor weekend every year. All the big brands bring full sets geared towards different target golfers. You can wander around and try nearly every new club on the market. The range balls are free and fittings can be scheduled with the pro shop and some of the venders can launch monitor fit on the spot. I go even when not really looking to buy.
I played Vokey for a number of years because I liked the options. Then Callaway was running a special on MD-4, saved me $60 US; I took the deal. My wedge play is still good. Comes back to the ME part of this discussion.
My old Ping Gorge 60 still pops up and stops but have added 2 SM8 - 58D and 54F with 10 and 14 bounce options. On some days one of the wedges give me more confidence in nearly all shot situations. It’s that feel for that day.
Mizuno MP series chrome 58/10 - chipped in for eagle twice with this club. I’ve had it about 15 years and it doesn’t spin much but the feel is fantastic. I had it bent a couple of degrees flatter and out of bunkers it’s just magic.
I went from 54 deg SW in SM6 to SM7 to Ping Glide, and then back to my worn out SM7. I am now going to get a SM8 as I have learned my lesson on moving away from Vokey.
I’ve found SM8’s don’t have the highest spin out there but I get them closer to the hole than my previous wedges. I like the fact that I can hit them high/low and pull it back a few feet or skip it in and stop it. Nothing worse than flushing a wedge and watch it land 2 feet away and spin back to 25 feet.
I like what Matt says regarding brand loyalty. For me I liked the look and perdormance of the Ping gap wedge but then again the Titleist SM7 sand and lob wedge. So PW and gap match my irons where my sand and lob wedge are Titleist.
I play Vokey wedges, the pro let me take out a selection of demo clubs with different grinds, lofts and bounces over a couple of weeks until I found which two helped me in the difficult situations and could still play the simple shots around the greens. The best wedges are the ones that work in your hands and give you confidence to take on tricky shots!
Had a 52 & 58 in the RTX4, then switched to the same lofts in the Cobra MiM. Needed to go with an extra wedge to fix gapping issues so went back to the RTX4 in a 50, 56 bent to 55 and 60. They seem to be very versatile from all lies and bunkers, great around the greens and have always liked the looks of Cleveland wedges. Also with the new lines coming out you can get them new for $50 less.
Titleist have great options for fitting Vokey wedges - it's a great experience and not only gives you the options of loft, grind etc but also making sure you get the right gapping to fit with the rest of your bag - worked for me!
This year, I bought a set of Bettinardi wedges in 50, 5 and 58 degrees with a c sole bounce. $75 US a pop, worth every penny. They work brilliantly around the green and, for me, on full pitches inside 100 yards.
Biggest problem I had was obtaining demo wedges to try, they were not available. The stores I go to didn’t offer fitting on wedges due to the equipment they had. After getting them to tape up the faces was able to try a couple, which is mad for a wedge test. Settled on a set of Cleveland RX4s away from my old Ping Glide‘s and have been really pleased.
I have sm8 and ping glide 3 and love both, the ping does work in the damp conditions better and checks up faster. Sm8 , I can throw darts at the pins! Just love both of those wedges!
Really enjoyed watching this. You know your onions. I have been fitted for all clubs from driver to putters but not really for wedges. However I really like the wedges I game, from looks, feel & performance. Cobra MIM wedges. At my handicap (19) gapping and bounce doesn't make a huge difference, I use them for chipping and bunkers!
When I bought my wedges it came down to Glide 3.0 and Jaws as they both give a little extra help. I chose the Glide as they had a matt finish and the Jaws was gloss and I was afraid of glare. Previously I had only used the PW ans SW from my old Callaway x16 set. I'm sure any dedicated wedge would've improved my game but the Glides are really, really good and look great.
Had one round so far with new TM MG2 black finish. So far so good. Was previously fitted for my Mizuno S18 but bought the new ones off the shelf. The buying process is a bit frustrating as there is rarely the option to try before you buy so went on looks / bounce / shaft options.
This year I've gamed bettinardis, rtx-4s, TM hi toes, and finally settled on SM8's. The biggest difference for me?.... I went to Titleist and got fitted for the SM8's. Go get fitted people!
I currently game Callaway Jaws but have had Mizuno T20, both are exquisite clubs for me. The MD5 though has a very good selection of grind and bounce combinations that enabled me to get what I wanted.
I had a fantastic wedge fitting experience at Precision Golf last month. I tried Mack Daddy 5, SM8, Cleveland RTX, Ping Glide 3.0, Ping Glide forged, T20, Cobra. Really wanted to like the T20 (I've got HMBs in the bag) and the Callaways and hadn't even considered Ping. After the fitting, I hated the SM8s, was indifferent to Mack Daddy and RTX, sadly wasn't keen on the T20s and ended up absolutely loving the Ping Glide forged and 3.0, hitting them the best by far. Now have Glide forged 50°, 56° bent to 55° and 60°, all with KBS C-taper lite stiff shafts, all with adjusted swing weights (D2.8, D3, D3.5) and head weight (+3 grams). Golf Pride CP2 grips, which are great and allow me to grip down without the grip becoming overly thin. And the wedges are amazing! Thanks to Precision Golf too!
Hard to beat Titleist Vokey wedges. Currently playing Taylor made wedges and looking the looks though. Comes down to look for me as I don't really like a really rounded toe.
Been fitted with Ping, Grip size, lie angle with the color code, sole (wide, standard,thin) and length. Ping also have 2 wedges (Glide forged and glide 3.0)
I play Mizuno wedges because they match my Mizuno set of irons and they perform very well. But you have advised me to use a premium ball (on a previous video) now they perform even better and my handicap is coming down. Thanks for another great video.
Picked up 54 and 58 TM MG2s this year. Loving the feel of them and they bite nicely. Likely a lot of other great wedges out there but these make me happy this year. Key words, this year. 😂
I play Glide 3 wedges, 50SS, 54SS and 58SS.. I play them because I have G410 irons and they blend really well, same fitting as my irons including shafts..
Your CBX video and the Peter Jacobsen videos have me leaning that way. I like the idea of a high bounce wedge and a low bounce wedge in my bag when I’m playing the game. I love the obsessive detail of your videos. That’s how you get better.
I recently went from a 56 and a 60 to a 58... just simplified my decision making. No more two-mindedness. W grind, giving me the help I need in bunkers. 60 S grind then went back in the bag exclusively for when I want to open the face as the W grind made me feel like that leading edge was coming up, and that scared me. Really happy with that area of my bag now.
I like the dark finish on the Callaway and Titleist. I tried the Ping Glide but did not feel right but will try the 3.0 and see if i like it now, almost time for new wedges.
I bought a couple of nearly new honma tw-w4 wedges on Ebay for just over 100 quid a few months ago. They are the best club I have ever hit, smooth as butter and instills more confidence than I have ever had from anywhere within 100 yards.
I love my Vokey SM7's. For me, it's the options/loft then the looks/finish on the wedge. They're all similar feel, so all of the helpful options first, then looks. Dark finish? I like that.
Worth looking at the ping or cbx for a gap wedges for mid handicappers. My short game isn't to bad but we underestimate how often we hit these clubs for second shots or after we have hacked out of the trees (well I did anyhow) . Thus is why I changed my vokey 50 which was a bit worn after lockdown for a glide. Very happy with it. As a side effect I'm hitting more bump and runs with my gap. I didn't realise I was missing the bounce go these shots. I guess that kinda proves your point as I discovered this by accident after I had spent the money.
I play a variety of brands for wedges. Callaway in 60 for original PM grind. It’s fantastic for bunkers or rough near the green. TaylorMade Hi Toe for 54 because I like the extra face area for shots from rough but more pleasing visually than PM grind. And then a Cobra 50 because the shape blends well and fits my eye for full shots and little bump pitches.
Feel is my thing guys, I Have the Cleveland's wedges from a couple of years ago In my bag I used to have MD oil can 52 and 58 wedges again they had a lovely feel sadly lost the 58... Great vlog as always lads thanks
Hi Mark I’ve always been a Mac daddy fan , But .. recently I’ve change to cobra mim and I’ve got to say they are excellent. Only carry a 52’ and 56’ , that’s enough wedges for me to get the job done . 😉🏌️♂️⛳️🍻
Feel that looks, bounce & sole options are very important. Lofts can be adjusted to fit player. I play Miura wedges because of looks, feel and performance...I seem to get more out of them than I do other manufacturers.
The best wedge is the one I can set behind the ball and have confidence I can get the non-full shot I have in my head. For a lot of reasons, mostly related to the ability to get a lower notional top-line when I open up the club face, I think Cobra's little middle carve out does the job. I stand by the idea that so long as you're looking at a wedge and thinking about a full swing, might as well have a wedge that best compliments the rest of your iron set. It's once you start pulling a wedge and thinking about bump & run or flop or partial shot that you start getting into the idea of a wedge that best helps you pull off a non-full shot you have pictured, whatever that is.
I have Cleveland RTX lob wedge with 8 degree bounce (for flop shots). Ping G-700 Sand Wedge with 14 degree bounce (for thick rough and soft bunkers). Titleist T300 53 and 48 degree wedges. Cobra Speedzone 44 degree pitching wedge (part of the set). So, NO BRAND LOYALTY at all - I knew what lie, loft and bounce I wanted and just kept testing them until I found what I liked for each wedge. Even I am surprised I have 4 different brands for 5 wedges but they just tested the best for me.
Bought the Ping Slide 3 Lofts 54° and 58° ... for the first time in my life I’m getting a lot of badger... so now hit to pin length or longer for the back spin... now using my Ping 8 and 9 irons for pitching with run. PW and UW are pretty much full shot wedges now because of the height..
I use CBX for 56 & 60 as they were the best for me in my worst situation and as good in my best! The I go 52 RTX 4 as I mainly play that as a full shot. Great video.
I purchased the Cleveland UHX irons earlier this year and post lockdown have been playing the best golf for years. Yes the lofts are strong but I'm hitting less club into targets so win/win. Anyhoo, the stock UHX PW is 44 degrees and the D (gap) wedge is 49 so I've bought the Cleveland CBX2 SW which at 54 degrees fits with the set. FWIW I'm currently still gaming the Cleveland RTX4 lob (60 degree) at present but am considering a 58 or 60 degree CBX2. I won't deny the occasional ball spin back with the CBX2 SW is influencing this decision!
Looks, colours and if my favorite player uses them that also helps convincing me. I am a Titleist man, since they make almost everything in lefthand and I would like to support that as well.
Its about what works- driver is performance and we all look at distance. For me its the flexibility to do what I want. I have a full set of callaway apex to SW. Then have a Vokey SM7 5808M to finish. All have their role and purpose and do what I need. Used ro have 60degree but was short. Now feel confident and scores have improved. Colours are gimmicks.
My short game is the only bit of my game working at the moment and it's all down to my Mizuno's. I can change the loft by opening up the face or just as happy with a full shot which makes them so versatile.
I have the T20’S 52 AND 58 in different grinds and love them, I like the shape and because they matched the MP20’s in the bag. You are right about the lack of info on the sole though. Hard to see the numbers on the back of the wedges
I have some 20 year old Wilson Staffs. So sharp you can shave with them. Chipped up and grooves are worn, but i just regripped them for like the 5th time. You can have those when you pry them from my cold dead fingers.
I needed new wedges, and went through a Taylormade fitting. Found out that with my distance gapping, I got by with a 54 and a 60. Also loved the grinds and options they offered. I just found that the Taylormade MB’s worked for me after a lot of demo’s at our practice green and the fitting. I can’t agree with Mark more. Spend as much time as possible trying different models and shots.
best video in a while Mark. great insight shared about choosing the club based on worse lie / best lie. I play Glide 3, as i am not looks fussy and choose tech assistance. Looking forward to more un-sponsored videos in the near future.
Looks, color and shaft options are what I look at. Right now, I went with Mizuno S-18 wedges because I was able to get them in the same shaft as my irons. Other manufacturers did not offer the KBS shaft I was looking for or did not offer a choice at all.
Great video guys !!! As a Lefty its a no brainer for me , Titleist has the most options !!! Ive been injured a couple of seasons so My SM 6:s are still working great , but When its time to get New ones it Will probably be Titleist again Stay safe 🏌️🇸🇪🙏👌
All comes down to confidence. Whatever wedges gives you the most confidence standing over the ball will perform the best. I've always liked Cobra but they weren't in this test.
Ping Glide wedges are underrated and can hold their own against the vokeys in the higher lofts for those technical bunker shots. Currently using T20 Gap & sand with Glide3 for the lob.
I currently game a mix of Callaway and Vokey. I used to game Cleveland, Roger Cleveland is now with Callaway which is one reason I decided to try the MDs. I recently pulled the trigger on a new Cobra MIM to give it a shot. The Vokeys are getting quite chunky in spots I don't like chunky, feel like I like my older versions better... They all kind of steal from each other and I don't think there is much tech that is changing in that space no matter how much they market. It comes down to which one you can put next to the hole...
This is perfect because I'm actually in for a wedge fitting this week! I've never used Vokeys before but my thought process is exactly as you said, they have the most fitting options and the best fitting cart at my club so that's what I'm going with.
Confidence is everything with wedges I think. A club that gives you confidence at address is very very important so I guess the more options the better as we are all different and what makes me feel confident over a shot won’t be the same for someone else. It’s much more subjective for wedges I think. Also my old wedges (mizuno tp19, Cleveland tour action 588) are still able to spin the ball really well so I do also think spin is over sold in the wedge market.
Big fan of Ping wedges! Currently got Glide steal the in my bag with i210 irons! Devastated that they dropped the stealth finish for the 3.0's! I would still go for the 3.0 when the time comes though as the look & performance just suit me!!
The best wedge is the one that has the right amount of bounce and sole grind to suit your delivery. Find what works best for your swing and the conditions you play in. The rest is marketing. I do prefer Mizuno having the loft and bounce off the sole because there is nothing to scuff or chip the paint fill.
I'm lucky that the Titleist rep brings lots of wedges to our fitting days. We can try different grinds/bounces off of turf, sand etc. There are a lot of Vokey wedges in play at my club as a result.
Very hard also as a leftie to really test any wedges. Only time I had an opportunity was with titleist when I could test the wedges and bounces/grinds in sand, behind a bunker near a green etc. ended up with the sm7 at that time. Am thinking about an all purpose wedge including for sand, from rough, around green, lob not so much full shots- so a 56 or 58 but hard to decide given what I said above. There is a lot good said about almost every wedge so depends what you listen to. Myself I never liked the looks of the ping wedges - had them and gave them up. So one option is to go for a wedge that matches the same brand as the irons or else stick to vokeys - the sm8 at present unless one takes a chance on something like the Ben hogan equalizer 2. Tough one. Indeed my sm7 fitting resulted in a low bounce option (04) which works very well for me. 😏
I’m a 2 brand wedge player. Been with TM 54 or 56 low bounce and Titleist 60 with a big ol fat bottom for a couple years now. Varying feels for different shots. Feel like it gives me more options(all in my head)
Just put two Miura tour on eBay - they are awesome BUT no release - and I always play with some release - but Have a Mizzy 60 degree with 5 bounce fir these really tight lies in the summer! Doesn’t have to blend - whatever works👍
Mark old son I’ve been watching your channel since the beginning , it makes me laugh ,you’ve been testing forever , pushing the boundaries on everything golf related , you don’t swim with the current , you’ve been saying all this stuff for years and the net and general opinions are catching up posting videos confirming subjects you did ages ago . Never stop bruh , people always need someone to pick on , but you are great at this , good work guys . I think we have never been so fortunate to have clubs with such tech , you could really buy any brand and they will be good clubs , it does come back to personal preference or looks and feel , and as a creature of habit we tend to always go from past experience with brands we’ve had success .
Cleveland CBX's have changed my game. I played second-hand Vokeys, Wilson FG Tour, Cleveland RTX, but recently picked up the CBX wedges. You'll have to pry them from my dead hands. As a 16 hcp, the CBX's forgiveness inspires so much confidence. Misses are much less pronounced and still keep you close to your target.
TXG actually tested them and found out that they are as consistent or even better than other wedges. Spin numbers equal also. So why should anyone game those fancy SM8:s when you can get more consistency and equal spin with CBX.
If your going on looks, the blue T20’s in blue are stunning. I went for them as I have Mizuno irons, and they do free custom stamping! 👍
May I also mention Cleveland CBX2 wedges - I found they transformed my confidence with my wedges (from Callaway MD3)
I also switched from Mack Daddy to CBX. Big difference!
i also switched from sm7 couldn't use it properly but the cleveland cbx2 54/58 are working well
What bounce might you suggest for lies on hard compacted ground? I end up blading it with my highest lofted club.
joshydep84 depends on your yardage but less bounce should help
@@WhatsUpSkaters thanks, boss. Looking into the blue Mizuno 60° with a low bounce
Cleavland CBX 2 56, 52, 48. TaylorMade ATV in 60. Down to playing at a 8 handicap from a 12 after getting the CBX 2
So much sense spoken in this video. So much understanding from the consumer perspective and the manufactures perspective. Incredibly helpful. Mark and Coach, just stop it would you? Just make videos of new drivers bombing it the furthest! Stop being so unique and helpful on UA-cam to us golfers! Stop being so biased and praising brands you don’t play.....sheeeeesh. UA-cam Golf is not what it used to be....
Best wedge? Whichever one that I'm not using!
Thanks very much for this Mark,and must confess, the black zipcore is the one I've been waiting for 😍
My wedges in use are Mizuno 50 (blue), vokey 54 (black) and Taylormade hi-toe 60 (bronze). Different colours help with getting the right on out the bag!
All about mucking about with them and finding out what is most consistent and has versatility for you as an individual. Wedges are the club you have to play with creatively the most in the bag
I was in the market for buying some new wedges this year, got totally confused with how many options are out there. In the end I ordered some Ben Hogan equaliser wedges. I am absolutely over the moon With them, I would recommend anyone to give them a go. When you order the wedges all you need to know is your loft and lie options, shaft no confusing bounce and ground options.
Got fitted for SM8's. First time fitted for wedges. Absolute must. They have transformed by game. Gone from ropey chipper to massively confident. Hated tight/bare lies. 60-04L now my favourite club (after my 2 iron !)
I just purchased the new Cleveland RTX Zipcore 58/10/Mid based on my comparison with the top brands in the store and my previous experience with the Jaws from Callaway. I like the feel as well as the looks of the satin chrome finish. I think the new added grooves will help me gain more back spin also.
I never thought much of wedge fitting but then had a chance to get for Vokeys by an experienced fitter on grass and the S Grind was a great matchup for my swing. Will never go away from them now
I've been using Cleveland's since the mid-90s. Having said that, I'm currently gaming Vokey SM7s as I was playing Titleist irons. I've not got the Titleists in the bag anymore, so I'm thinking that I'll go back to Cleveland with my next change.
I like Coach's "I'm just hearing ball" comment. During lockdown, I practiced chipping in my back garden with headphones and music. Its amazing how the sound of impact affects perception of feel.
Favourite wedge: whatever is at least 50% off at the off-season sale
Yuuup got Mack Daddy 4 wedges for $100. New. 52,56,60
But then you go buy 2 new drivers because "it will fix my slice"
@@LouKayne nah, my driver is 6 years old and the slice is there even when I try newer models :)
That last comment about fitting is so interesting. I’ve been for numerous fittings through my golfing life and I’ve never seen wedges in a fitting cart or ever been fitted for wedges. Even when I bought a complete new set up, I got completely fitted properly for irons and was then just given the wedges that complimented the set in the lofts that created the right gap in loft. Looking back now I should have been testing them properly for bounce etc.
I just go with Vokeys...ever since I 1st had a K grind in SM6! Just love that bounce from the rough and bunkers...so had SM6, 7 and now 8
I had a 2 hour wedge fitting lesson at Precision Golf and I went with SM7 last year, I tried all of the brands but Titelist have all of the bounce, grinds etc it gave me extra confidence to choose the right club for my gapping.
I adore this discussion. It was just loose and interesting. Lots of analysis and opinion of how a bunch of clubs and how they feel in many situations. What a blast.
Just bought a mint condition Titleist SM5 f grind 52 degree from the local pro for £35... tried it first, brilliant from 100 yards..great advice and price..
for me it's all about how it looks down behind the ball...I need that leading edge to look tight to the ground...if the leading edge seems to float up a bit it's gone...great vid boys
I have found technique is so much more important than brand etc. I was chipping them close and some with more backspin with my Hogan FW15's blade wedges equally to two others this weekend using Vokey SM7's. I was considering getting new wedges but after last weekend, decided to spend more time practicing driving & putting!
Club Champion did a blind test where the fitter handed me wedges and we did a test on a lie board with a sticker to see where my impact was. Basically their goal was to find the wedge that had the right bounce / grind for my swing as every manufacturer is slightly different. Their attitude was every wedge option they have can get you great results as they're all very similar, but you need the one who's sole and grind fit your swing the best. In my case, it was down to the Cleveland RTX and Vokey SM8s, and I preferred the feel of the Vokeys. But I got fit by them for my previous set 2 years ago into the Callaway MD3 Forged series, and those wedges did very well for me! So yeah, get fit... especially on the scoring clubs where it counts the most (and that include the putter).
My first golf coach asked me, "Do you normally hit your wedge shots short or long?" "Uh, mostly short." "So why do you want more back-spin?". It was and remains a good question.
The largest pro shop in my area does a multivendor weekend every year. All the big brands bring full sets geared towards different target golfers. You can wander around and try nearly every new club on the market. The range balls are free and fittings can be scheduled with the pro shop and some of the venders can launch monitor fit on the spot. I go even when not really looking to buy.
I played Vokey for a number of years because I liked the options. Then Callaway was running a special on MD-4, saved me $60 US; I took the deal. My wedge play is still good. Comes back to the ME part of this discussion.
Bought two Wilson PMP at the start of the season... 54 and 60... I dread the day I will need to change them. Gosh I love them.
My old Ping Gorge 60 still pops up and stops but have added 2 SM8 - 58D and 54F with 10 and 14 bounce options. On some days one of the wedges give me more confidence in nearly all shot situations. It’s that feel for that day.
Added a 56° PM grind '19 that will never leave my bag. 1/2 inch longer and jumbo grip have made the biggest difference ever!
Mizuno MP series chrome 58/10 - chipped in for eagle twice with this club. I’ve had it about 15 years and it doesn’t spin much but the feel is fantastic. I had it bent a couple of degrees flatter and out of bunkers it’s just magic.
I went from 54 deg SW in SM6 to SM7 to Ping Glide, and then back to my worn out SM7. I am now going to get a SM8 as I have learned my lesson on moving away from Vokey.
I’ve found SM8’s don’t have the highest spin out there but I get them closer to the hole than my previous wedges. I like the fact that I can hit them high/low and pull it back a few feet or skip it in and stop it. Nothing worse than flushing a wedge and watch it land 2 feet away and spin back to 25 feet.
I like what Matt says regarding brand loyalty. For me I liked the look and perdormance of the Ping gap wedge but then again the Titleist SM7 sand and lob wedge. So PW and gap match my irons where my sand and lob wedge are Titleist.
I play Vokey wedges, the pro let me take out a selection of demo clubs with different grinds, lofts and bounces over a couple of weeks until I found which two helped me in the difficult situations and could still play the simple shots around the greens. The best wedges are the ones that work in your hands and give you confidence to take on tricky shots!
Had a 52 & 58 in the RTX4, then switched to the same lofts in the Cobra MiM. Needed to go with an extra wedge to fix gapping issues so went back to the RTX4 in a 50, 56 bent to 55 and 60. They seem to be very versatile from all lies and bunkers, great around the greens and have always liked the looks of Cleveland wedges. Also with the new lines coming out you can get them new for $50 less.
Titleist have great options for fitting Vokey wedges - it's a great experience and not only gives you the options of loft, grind etc but also making sure you get the right gapping to fit with the rest of your bag - worked for me!
Wedges are the only thing I buy new and customize. They are also my favorite clubs so biased. Got a wedgeworks sm8 coming in the mail very excited
This year, I bought a set of Bettinardi wedges in 50, 5 and 58 degrees with a c sole bounce. $75 US a pop, worth every penny.
They work brilliantly around the green and, for me, on full pitches inside 100 yards.
54, not 5. doh!
Biggest problem I had was obtaining demo wedges to try, they were not available. The stores I go to didn’t offer fitting on wedges due to the equipment they had. After getting them to tape up the faces was able to try a couple, which is mad for a wedge test. Settled on a set of Cleveland RX4s away from my old Ping Glide‘s and have been really pleased.
I have sm8 and ping glide 3 and love both, the ping does work in the damp conditions better and checks up faster. Sm8 , I can throw darts at the pins! Just love both of those wedges!
Really enjoyed watching this. You know your onions. I have been fitted for all clubs from driver to putters but not really for wedges.
However I really like the wedges I game, from looks, feel & performance. Cobra MIM wedges. At my handicap (19) gapping and bounce doesn't make a huge difference, I use them for chipping and bunkers!
When I bought my wedges it came down to Glide 3.0 and Jaws as they both give a little extra help. I chose the Glide as they had a matt finish and the Jaws was gloss and I was afraid of glare. Previously I had only used the PW ans SW from my old Callaway x16 set. I'm sure any dedicated wedge would've improved my game but the Glides are really, really good and look great.
Had one round so far with new TM MG2 black finish. So far so good.
Was previously fitted for my Mizuno S18 but bought the new ones off the shelf. The buying process is a bit frustrating as there is rarely the option to try before you buy so went on looks / bounce / shaft options.
This year I've gamed bettinardis, rtx-4s, TM hi toes, and finally settled on SM8's. The biggest difference for me?.... I went to Titleist and got fitted for the SM8's. Go get fitted people!
I currently game Callaway Jaws but have had Mizuno T20, both are exquisite clubs for me. The MD5 though has a very good selection of grind and bounce combinations that enabled me to get what I wanted.
I had a fantastic wedge fitting experience at Precision Golf last month. I tried Mack Daddy 5, SM8, Cleveland RTX, Ping Glide 3.0, Ping Glide forged, T20, Cobra. Really wanted to like the T20 (I've got HMBs in the bag) and the Callaways and hadn't even considered Ping. After the fitting, I hated the SM8s, was indifferent to Mack Daddy and RTX, sadly wasn't keen on the T20s and ended up absolutely loving the Ping Glide forged and 3.0, hitting them the best by far. Now have Glide forged 50°, 56° bent to 55° and 60°, all with KBS C-taper lite stiff shafts, all with adjusted swing weights (D2.8, D3, D3.5) and head weight (+3 grams). Golf Pride CP2 grips, which are great and allow me to grip down without the grip becoming overly thin. And the wedges are amazing! Thanks to Precision Golf too!
Hard to beat Titleist Vokey wedges. Currently playing Taylor made wedges and looking the looks though. Comes down to look for me as I don't really like a really rounded toe.
I game TM milled grinds gen1. 54 LB & 56 SB. They don't make a 58 LH.. just sad.
I'm sold on their looks. Hit hem great!
Wich ones are you gaming?
@@F158 same version 1 wedges in 50 and 56 degrees. Agree the look is very nice, especially the CNC sole which looks good in the bag
Been fitted with Ping, Grip size, lie angle with the color code, sole (wide, standard,thin) and length. Ping also have 2 wedges (Glide forged and glide 3.0)
I play Mizuno wedges because they match my Mizuno set of irons and they perform very well. But you have advised me to use a premium ball (on a previous video) now they perform even better and my handicap is coming down. Thanks for another great video.
Picked up 54 and 58 TM MG2s this year. Loving the feel of them and they bite nicely. Likely a lot of other great wedges out there but these make me happy this year. Key words, this year. 😂
I play Glide 3 wedges, 50SS, 54SS and 58SS.. I play them because I have G410 irons and they blend really well, same fitting as my irons including shafts..
I've used Cleveland wedges for as long as I can remember... the Zipcore are stunning. IMO the best on the market ;o)
Your CBX video and the Peter Jacobsen videos have me leaning that way. I like the idea of a high bounce wedge and a low bounce wedge in my bag when I’m playing the game.
I love the obsessive detail of your videos. That’s how you get better.
I recently went from a 56 and a 60 to a 58... just simplified my decision making. No more two-mindedness. W grind, giving me the help I need in bunkers. 60 S grind then went back in the bag exclusively for when I want to open the face as the W grind made me feel like that leading edge was coming up, and that scared me. Really happy with that area of my bag now.
I like the dark finish on the Callaway and Titleist. I tried the Ping Glide but did not feel right but will try the 3.0 and see if i like it now, almost time for new wedges.
I bought a couple of nearly new honma tw-w4 wedges on Ebay for just over 100 quid a few months ago.
They are the best club I have ever hit, smooth as butter and instills more confidence than I have ever had from anywhere within 100 yards.
Idk if it's the same model honma won mygolfspy best wesge of 2019 cobra and honma make the most underrated wedge imo
I love my Vokey SM7's. For me, it's the options/loft then the looks/finish on the wedge. They're all similar feel, so all of the helpful options first, then looks. Dark finish? I like that.
Worth looking at the ping or cbx for a gap wedges for mid handicappers. My short game isn't to bad but we underestimate how often we hit these clubs for second shots or after we have hacked out of the trees (well I did anyhow) . Thus is why I changed my vokey 50 which was a bit worn after lockdown for a glide. Very happy with it. As a side effect I'm hitting more bump and runs with my gap. I didn't realise I was missing the bounce go these shots. I guess that kinda proves your point as I discovered this by accident after I had spent the money.
I play a variety of brands for wedges. Callaway in 60 for original PM grind. It’s fantastic for bunkers or rough near the green. TaylorMade Hi Toe for 54 because I like the extra face area for shots from rough but more pleasing visually than PM grind. And then a Cobra 50 because the shape blends well and fits my eye for full shots and little bump pitches.
Feel is my thing guys, I Have the Cleveland's wedges from a couple of years ago In my bag I used to have MD oil can 52 and 58 wedges again they had a lovely feel sadly lost the 58...
Great vlog as always lads thanks
I have had several wedges from different brands and I still put my Nike VR Forged wedges back in. Love them.
Hi Mark I’ve always been a Mac daddy fan , But .. recently I’ve change to cobra mim and I’ve got to say they are excellent. Only carry a 52’ and 56’ , that’s enough wedges for me to get the job done . 😉🏌️♂️⛳️🍻
Feel that looks, bounce & sole options are very important. Lofts can be adjusted to fit player. I play Miura wedges because of looks, feel and performance...I seem to get more out of them than I do other manufacturers.
The best wedge is the one I can set behind the ball and have confidence I can get the non-full shot I have in my head. For a lot of reasons, mostly related to the ability to get a lower notional top-line when I open up the club face, I think Cobra's little middle carve out does the job. I stand by the idea that so long as you're looking at a wedge and thinking about a full swing, might as well have a wedge that best compliments the rest of your iron set. It's once you start pulling a wedge and thinking about bump & run or flop or partial shot that you start getting into the idea of a wedge that best helps you pull off a non-full shot you have pictured, whatever that is.
I have Cleveland RTX lob wedge with 8 degree bounce (for flop shots). Ping G-700 Sand Wedge with 14 degree bounce (for thick rough and soft bunkers). Titleist T300 53 and 48 degree wedges. Cobra Speedzone 44 degree pitching wedge (part of the set). So, NO BRAND LOYALTY at all - I knew what lie, loft and bounce I wanted and just kept testing them until I found what I liked for each wedge. Even I am surprised I have 4 different brands for 5 wedges but they just tested the best for me.
I had a Wedge fitting with my Teachingpro who has Titelst... And I am happy with them...
Bought the Ping Slide 3 Lofts 54° and 58° ... for the first time in my life I’m getting a lot of badger... so now hit to pin length or longer for the back spin... now using my Ping 8 and 9 irons for pitching with run. PW and UW are pretty much full shot wedges now because of the height..
I have rtx 4 satin 60 and 50 and 56 in Taylor made high toe which I like alot and the feel.from each club and confidence they give me.
I use CBX for 56 & 60 as they were the best for me in my worst situation and as good in my best! The I go 52 RTX 4 as I mainly play that as a full shot. Great video.
I purchased the Cleveland UHX irons earlier this year and post lockdown have been playing the best golf for years. Yes the lofts are strong but I'm hitting less club into targets so win/win. Anyhoo, the stock UHX PW is 44 degrees and the D (gap) wedge is 49 so I've bought the Cleveland CBX2 SW which at 54 degrees fits with the set. FWIW I'm currently still gaming the Cleveland RTX4 lob (60 degree) at present but am considering a 58 or 60 degree CBX2. I won't deny the occasional ball spin back with the CBX2 SW is influencing this decision!
Would love to see you test budget wedges, the £30/£40/£50 types, Ram, MD, Wilson, some can’t afford to splash £400 on a set of wedges
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Looks, colours and if my favorite player uses them that also helps convincing me. I am a Titleist man, since they make almost everything in lefthand and I would like to support that as well.
Its about what works- driver is performance and we all look at distance. For me its the flexibility to do what I want. I have a full set of callaway apex to SW. Then have a Vokey SM7 5808M to finish. All have their role and purpose and do what I need. Used ro have 60degree but was short. Now feel confident and scores have improved. Colours are gimmicks.
My short game is the only bit of my game working at the moment and it's all down to my Mizuno's. I can change the loft by opening up the face or just as happy with a full shot which makes them so versatile.
I have the T20’S 52 AND 58 in different grinds and love them, I like the shape and because they matched the MP20’s in the bag. You are right about the lack of info on the sole though. Hard to see the numbers on the back of the wedges
I’ve got mizuno 46 and callaway 50 & 58 not bothered about matching as long as I like the feel and look
I have some 20 year old Wilson Staffs. So sharp you can shave with them. Chipped up and grooves are worn, but i just regripped them for like the 5th time. You can have those when you pry them from my cold dead fingers.
I needed new wedges, and went through a Taylormade fitting. Found out that with my distance gapping, I got by with a 54 and a 60. Also loved the grinds and options they offered. I just found that the Taylormade MB’s worked for me after a lot of demo’s at our practice green and the fitting. I can’t agree with Mark more. Spend as much time as possible trying different models and shots.
Ping 50.56..60 for me and Vega.to. Good vlog..
best video in a while Mark. great insight shared about choosing the club based on worse lie / best lie. I play Glide 3, as i am not looks fussy and choose tech assistance. Looking forward to more un-sponsored videos in the near future.
I've always used vokey, simply down to looks and feels right.
Looks, color and shaft options are what I look at. Right now, I went with Mizuno S-18 wedges because I was able to get them in the same shaft as my irons. Other manufacturers did not offer the KBS shaft I was looking for or did not offer a choice at all.
Great video guys !!!
As a Lefty its a no brainer for me , Titleist has the most options !!!
Ive been injured a couple of seasons so My SM 6:s are still working great , but When its time to get New ones it Will probably be Titleist again
Stay safe 🏌️🇸🇪🙏👌
All comes down to confidence. Whatever wedges gives you the most confidence standing over the ball will perform the best.
I've always liked Cobra but they weren't in this test.
Ping Glide wedges are underrated and can hold their own against the vokeys in the higher lofts for those technical bunker shots. Currently using T20 Gap & sand with Glide3 for the lob.
I currently game a mix of Callaway and Vokey. I used to game Cleveland, Roger Cleveland is now with Callaway which is one reason I decided to try the MDs. I recently pulled the trigger on a new Cobra MIM to give it a shot. The Vokeys are getting quite chunky in spots I don't like chunky, feel like I like my older versions better... They all kind of steal from each other and I don't think there is much tech that is changing in that space no matter how much they market. It comes down to which one you can put next to the hole...
I've got a Cobra trusty rusty 60, and a Cleveland 54. Both in black finish, but with as different of bounce/grind as I could find.
I got fitted with my SM7s last year at Titleist Canada. Cost $100. Got new ProVs as a gift AND the $100 applied to the 3 new wedges.
This is perfect because I'm actually in for a wedge fitting this week!
I've never used Vokeys before but my thought process is exactly as you said, they have the most fitting options and the best fitting cart at my club so that's what I'm going with.
Confidence is everything with wedges I think. A club that gives you confidence at address is very very important so I guess the more options the better as we are all different and what makes me feel confident over a shot won’t be the same for someone else. It’s much more subjective for wedges I think. Also my old wedges (mizuno tp19, Cleveland tour action 588) are still able to spin the ball really well so I do also think spin is over sold in the wedge market.
Big fan of Ping wedges! Currently got Glide steal the in my bag with i210 irons! Devastated that they dropped the stealth finish for the 3.0's! I would still go for the 3.0 when the time comes though as the look & performance just suit me!!
Your right, look they're all fantastic at what they do, it's the looks and how you connect to the look. Great video 👍
The best wedge is the one that has the right amount of bounce and sole grind to suit your delivery. Find what works best for your swing and the conditions you play in. The rest is marketing.
I do prefer Mizuno having the loft and bounce off the sole because there is nothing to scuff or chip the paint fill.
MD Norman Drew wedges were exceptional back in the day!
I'm lucky that the Titleist rep brings lots of wedges to our fitting days. We can try different grinds/bounces off of turf, sand etc. There are a lot of Vokey wedges in play at my club as a result.
As a high handicapper the best wedge is the one that gets me out of bunkers first time, I currently use a cheap Alien 2 Wedge for this.
Very hard also as a leftie to really test any wedges. Only time I had an opportunity was with titleist when I could test the wedges and bounces/grinds in sand, behind a bunker near a green etc. ended up with the sm7 at that time. Am thinking about an all purpose wedge including for sand, from rough, around green, lob not so much full shots- so a 56 or 58 but hard to decide given what I said above. There is a lot good said about almost every wedge so depends what you listen to. Myself I never liked the looks of the ping wedges - had them and gave them up. So one option is to go for a wedge that matches the same brand as the irons or else stick to vokeys - the sm8 at present unless one takes a chance on something like the Ben hogan equalizer 2. Tough one. Indeed my sm7 fitting resulted in a low bounce option (04) which works very well for me. 😏
I’m a 2 brand wedge player. Been with TM 54 or 56 low bounce and Titleist 60 with a big ol fat bottom for a couple years now. Varying feels for different shots. Feel like it gives me more options(all in my head)
Just put two Miura tour on eBay - they are awesome BUT no release - and I always play with some release - but Have a Mizzy 60 degree with 5 bounce fir these really tight lies in the summer! Doesn’t have to blend - whatever works👍