Louis Theroux vs WCW PART 2: Sarge's Revenge!! - Wrestle Me Review
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Marc & Pete sit on a bucket, stare at the wall, and finish up their review of Louis Theroux's 1999 wrestling documentary, featuring the cast of WCW Monday Nitro!!
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As a 32 year old backyard wrestler who grew up in the same scene as Robbie Eagles and Kyle Fletcher, these dudes warm my heart.
I know Robbie from his backyard days too. Mostly from when he'd come up to Newcastle to have matches with the lads in Stockton.
@@Antonicane Sweet as! I wrestled up there a few times too. Were you a wrestler or a fan back then? I might know ya.
@@CyrusCageSCWS Just a fan, really. The lads used to call me Enzi, 'cuz I had a banner on their forums about 'National Enzuigiri Day'.
@@Antonicane Oh shit. Hey Enzi! I remember you from auzfest 4. It's nightmare from SCWS. Hope you're doing well.
@@CyrusCageSCWS Yeah, same bro.
I'm really glad Louie Theroux finally learned wrestling is predetermined while in his mid to late twenties, has anyone ever got around to telling him Santa Claus isn't real?
😂
Dude is a douche bag
Well, he thinks Charlie was ordained by God to rule the world.
He was making a documentary.
Yes I'm sure he didn't know.
"I can take lots of little ones!" With the pic of him and Jimmy Saville edited in made me spit my chilli con carne out all over my couch
RIP your couch
Man i love chili con carne!
When he was on JRE he said how he tried to do one on MMA, Him rocking up at American top team or Team Quest seeing if he "had it" would have been worth the budget for the doc alone.
MMA guys aren’t like that though. If you were talking shit, maybe it’s different but those guys especially nowadays know how lethal and dangerous they are, they wouldn’t. Yeah maybe in 03/04 it’s different but I think at this point WCW/WWE in in 98/99 are world wide, MMA around the same time isn’t as popular and I think they would want better PR for it
thats just his shtick, its not disrespectful, he knows he doesn't have what it takes, that is the point. He is trying to get them to open up and talk with his naive act.
@@sharkyh7327 Well bully beat down was a thing back in the day MMA guys beating on untrained opponents, I say this as someone who trains MMA for fitness it made the sport look bad.
@@lewisb85
That was “bullies” though, people who were supposedly bullying average ppl and then also thinking they were tough guys. I don’t think it’s the same thing, also if u watch that the MMA guys weren’t going 100%
@@sharkyh7327 But like the guys said, he would have got the same treatment if he had gone through an NFL training camp or rocked up at a top level premiership team, I just think louis has no regard for how professional, pro athletes actually are.
Who ever edits these videos does an amazing job.
BanyaBat is the absolute king
Some of the other Weird Weekend episodes are easier to enjoy because if he's mocking Nazis then you objectively can't feel sorry for the target. But when it's just normal people who are just doing something they enjoy to try and entertain their community, it really grates.
Hey the BBC being Jerks have blocked part 1, hope you guys can get it up again. Love the channel, always make me laugh and smile.
Will be back soon!
In that promo Louis cut, he was about as intimidating as a newborn kitten wrapped in a bow 🐈
That’s the joke…
I'm scared
I want a full episode of you two destroying the Rita Ora episode.
You guys are hilarious. Dig the variation of topics you guys explore on this channel. Makes you stand out.
The first part if this was the finniest things I'd seen in ages. I'm looking forward to this.
Wrestle Me is not only the funniest wrestling channel it’s the funniest channel on UA-cam. I’ve enjoyed other wrestling channels and Wrestling With Wregret (WWW) has some funny parts but then I found Wrestle Me and realised Brian of WWW has nothing on Marc and Pete!
@@nichhodge8503 I'm surprised I've only recently came across this channel. I'm not a massive wrestling fan these days but I do watch at not bad amount of stuff like this that talks about older stuff. I think the algorithm may be screwing these guys with the numbers of viewers because every wrestling fan I've recommended it to loves it and I'm positive all wrestling fans would. This is like the Mr Sunday Movies of wrestling. It's very funny.
They are all metalheads so it doesn't surprise me they are all nice guys.
Fucking A
Spent the weekend binging this channel, havent laughed so hard in ages. Keep up the epic work!! Subbed and patreon'd.
Louis Theroux-Up
As far as Pete's comment that normies are obsessed with wrestling not being real, I think those same people react like that to every niche hobby. Everyone who read comics, or watched anime, or played video games got similar reactions from people outside the hobby. It's an unfortunate thing that most people react to things they don't understand with derision.
There are certain hobbies that seem to be viewed as acceptable with most people. No one gets mocked for being into woodworking or listening to classical music or liking sports. But there are just some hobbies that are acceptable targets. It's pretty strange how that works out.
Most men like wrestling. It's like Fight Club. You'll put feelers out in questions when you meet someone new. Most blokes will have a good knowledge on it even if they don't watch it anymore.
Yeah exactly,
It can't be any good
because I'M NOT DOING IT! ☝😏
The point I went off of Louis Theroux was after watching his Scientology documentary which in comparison to another documentary on the church Going Clear was just completely lacking in detail. He also did that awful Michael Moore style thing of turning up on their doorstep with a camera crew unaccounced, getting kicked out and trying to use it as proof that they had something hide.
5:13
Small Poppa Pump!
Ive legit had that armor set when I was young
Petey Williams? lol
Haha
LOL!
Vs lill naitch
4:50: Louis Theroux wonders why people would allow their children to watch these violent maniacs - instead of wholesome entertainers like Jimmy Savile.
Hollywood people say the same thing about video games, the same people who treated Harvey Weinstein and Roman Pollansky like saints.
There requires a certain amount of hypocrisy to work in mainstream entertainment. And that certain amount is 100%
Jimmy Saville was also a wrestler at one point in his career...
louis close friend, shared numbers and even stayed at each others flats late 2000s
@@IFYOUREADTHISUAREWEIRDANDGHEY well we're all moral perfection after the facts aren't we. Chris Benoit had loads of fans on here, I'm sure. Not to mention the array of perverts at WWE.
@@davidlevy706 Yes, he had an image but there's zero reason to believe Theroux knew the whole truth. It was all rumours. But hey, we live in an age of faux outrage.
16:04 The YETAAAAY giving Theroux a pep talk.
Wow.... You can get 40 bottles of water from Costco for less than $5 (I assume, they're around £4 here in UK and assume they are similar priced in dollars)
Louis’ promo is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen 😂😂
I do like a lot of Theroux's later stuff but these Weird Weekend ones were definitely kind of just about the whole 'wahey it's the 90s, we just want to see some dead-pan outlandishness!' that was definitely a bit of a trend then. Which is fine as entertainment, but it's a bit of shame as he got access to some really interesting locations and people but never really felt like he got all that much substance out of them. It's 'freak show' tabloid stuff
Weird Weekends was the best thing he ever did. The world was a bit less serious pre 2000's. I miss it.
Fourth kind of trainer: Take your money and make you quit before showing you anything to “protect the business”
I'm interested in the Rita Ora interview. I've always wondered whether she was real or predetermined?
Hardbody harrison also suggested being stings black nemesis "stang" and something about a magic crystal in a tank full of piranhas....
even at conventions, the "offical" cosplayers are given water by the organizers. its simple, cheap and easy, we even get snacks too.
"LOOK AT YOU NOW, WRESTLE ME!!"
I remember thinking, when seeing these when they aired, that they more 'exposed' Louie Theroux.
The Schtick he does to lower the defences of people around him.
The whole playing ignorant, when he's well aware (and researched) about things.
And that, when the pressure is on him (like the training), he tends to buckle, walks off and hides from his own cameraman :)
Also, the fact he misses, he 'plays the same game' with the public as Pro-wrestling does. HE shows us a 'character' not the 'real' Louie
I mean that could be said of Ali g or Borat really. Characters help people feel comfortable and let their guard down in a way they wouldn't normally and almost all people on TV are playing a character they are best known for on TV even if it is themselves. Cilla black springs to mind
Karl Pilkington doing Lucha was far more fun than Louis being a pathetic Walter the Softy ripoff.
mullets...mullets everywhere, far as the eye can see
5:12 Scotty got real quiet when this guy showed up
Really enjoyed this, great video 🤘🏻
another great video guys! Now please look in to the Rip Rawlingson story i will keep asking until i see it.
Bloody hell. That Louis and Rita Ora interview was a dose of cringe I didn't need today.
Angry Alan, later to become known as Kwee Wee. And Hardbody Harrison, later to be...nevermind actually.
Hardbody Harrison is a saint compared to Jimmy Saville (the old man in the picture of Louis when Louis said “I can take lots of little ones”) a man who ran paedophile rings, has over 500 known case of child abuse, sexual assault and rape not mention his necrophilia cases. What that man did to children, vulnerable and disabled children and people is disgusting! He didn’t care what age, gender, living or dead he would sexually assault them and because he was friends with the Queen, Royal Family, Prime Ministers and heads of the police he abused people over a 50 year period and there’s footage of him groping girls on TV and nobody did a thing. If you’re British you would know about him but if you’re American you might not of heard of him but he had a lot of power and non of the stories came out until he was dead and even when he died the BBC blocked a program about what he was like
Oh. Ooh. Oooooh. Kinda wish I hadn't read THAT Wikipedia article.
@@VelvetMetrolink most ppl that do that crime look very similar to him. But I'm sure u think that it's racisms fault right??
Angry Alan later had a gay gimmick in tna the rainbow express
AIWF still has shows at least once a month in Mt Airy NC
My muscles don’t jiggle jiggle, they’re bold
Would loved to have seen Louis take a bump
If wrestling were 'real', it would be horrifying.
Are Rick Diesel and Al Snow related? There's a pretty strong resemblance.
Al Snow is related Glacier, Rick Diesel is related to Kevin Nash.
Lol? @@Phil_Tutty
13:13 “they were former drug addicts who wanted to learn how to wrestle” If they’re former drug addicts don’t get them into the wrestling business as it would be like a kid in a candy store for them being in a wrestling locker room
Meng nearly killed him with that suplex? He was such a safe worker it makes me wonder if he knew something?? 🤔
Pez Whatley did a lot of promos in the 80s, check him out in Paul Jones’ army in NWA.
Wrestle Me is not only the funniest wrestling channel it’s the funniest channel on UA-cam. I’ve enjoyed other wrestling channels and Wrestling With Wregret (WWW) has some funny parts but then I found Wrestle Me and realised Brian of WWW has nothing on Marc and Pete!
OSW is quite good if you enjoy this kind of content, deadlock retro sync’s as well
Wrestle me is just an osw copy.
Hardbody Harrison was a sergeant in the gulf war. Was not expecting that doing a quick look up on the trafficking.
Really?? You know most of those criminals look like him. Actually he looks like the majority of all criminals. If you lived around those ppl this wouldn't surprise you. And he cried about 'racial discrimination '.. what a joke! He didn't mind when he was the one owning and controlling othere ppl.. the world has a low opinion of those ppl for good reason.
These ppl are the worst kind of people. Racism exists for good reason. It's a defense mechanism against violent predators.
For a brief moment I thought he was saying Mr. Perfect was not a headliner and I about lost it till I saw Pez in the ring.😂
4:50 “… lots of little ones.” Cue Saville pic. Nice one.
Louis Theroux looks like a young John Oliver.
4:50 OH MY GOD 😂
I didn't see part 2 having a wholesome swerve.
I did the dying cockroach at basic training. Watching this makes me miss getting yelled at while exercising
I love how Louis is puking his guts out, Sarge is screaming at him, and Glacier is just standing there like "Yeah, im not touching this"
The "oh it's fake" stuff always confused me anyway, I never once saw people coming out of a movie like "you know that was all fake right?"
Movies never pretended to be real.
Ha! Wrong@@kevinb9830
@@kevinb9830 Within the context of the movie, yes they do. As does theatre, as does a wrestling show (typically).
@@InaudibleSlinky Come on, you know it's not the same. Absolutely nobody goes or ever went to a movie thinking what they're seeing is real.
4:49 oh noooo 😂
When I originally watched this when it aired I did think Louie was being disrespectful ( still do) and I was and am glad Sgt Buddy made him puke
A triple h nose and a mullet with tortilla chips he is a triple threat lmao 🤣
Wish they had let him interview Dr, D David Shultz or Nick Gage.
I've always enjoyed Louid Theroux documentaries, but you make a lot of good points here - He really did come off like an out of touch, bourgie asshole in the wrestling episode.
He comes across like that in all of his Weird Weekends documentaries. This was in part a tactic to get his subjects to open up more. It's also more entertaining to have that clash between Louis's gentle quirky English persona and these colourful American people.
@@brianm2881 I guess maybe its just that when he's doing it opposite neonazis or the westboro baptist church, its a lot easier to be on his side. But when its not objectively shitty people he's looking down on, well then you get this.
@@TheLokiBiz I've seen this particular episode of Weird Weekends many times, but to be honest with you, I've never got the impression that he's looking down on any of the people involved. It might be a reflex thing to think that where he's a bit posh and they're all blue collar, but if you watch the full documentary, it's less looking down on the subjects and more like just trying to work out what the hell is going on.
They covered this episode on the All the Way Theroux podcast and interviewed Rick Deezel, and at no point did he register unhappiness with how the episode portrayed the lifestyle.
It's Wrestle Me's job to take the piss out of things, and they're hilarious here, but the episode does stand up on its own merits, too, I think.
@@brianm2881Theroux is a work himself. He’s faker than rasslin’. His whole schtick is that he’s a simple Everyman journalist when he’s actually:
A) Calculating
B) A posh millionaire nepo-baby
C) a journalist in name only with no genuine track record as a serious journalist
He has more in common with Tucker Carlson than anyone else I can think of.
@@brianm2881completely agree
Pez Whatley had a big feud with jlJimmy Valiant, and the character he became was basically the precursor to The Nation of Domination... in fact they should have brought Whatley in to manage them as Brother Whatley. 🤷♂️
@4:50
You're awful
But I like you
This video makes me want to volunteer for a small wrestling promotion around my area. Those guys looked really happy. I was a wrestling fan when I was younger but I have a greater appreciation for it now. I wish the Internet wasn't terrible because I would leave contact information. Free help on the weekends in fema region 5.
recalling watching this show back then...
i liked louis show and obviously wcw...
i was embarrassed for both parties as i am now ,,, wcw for being too kayfabe and lousi for being a completely wet git
both made me a bit less of a fan of both...
what a twatty thing to happen to be honest..
Now, listen. Me and a lot of other people in the comments have admitted to enjoying Louis Theroux. That being acknowledged - I'd watch a million episodes of you guys ripping on him.
The most top 10 singles by a woman from the UK... in the UK.
I have a saying, "Anything can be true if you qualify it enough."
Pete - your voice is like rich syrup, make me your pancake stack!
Love this series
I have the full episode on DVD that i got in 2005
11:08 actually Pistol Pez/Shaska Watley was essentially a HEEL Jobber to the Stars during the JCP/NWA mid 80s ,and did a decent about of Promo work as a Part of Paul Jones's Army stable or his cult tag team "The Jive Tones"😅
It was the whole point of the series to go in blind
No it was the point of the series to APPEAR to go in blind, a lot of planning goes into these shows to get the interactions they want. Fly-on-the-wall documentaries have their own type of kayfabe.
Danzig looks like a younger Balls Mahoney
That's what he said...
It’s his apparent naivety that is what makes his style, it as if he’s a friend spending time with a friend who’s living a double life and Louis makes out he’s never even heard of it and that’s why he feels he can ask those awkward questions that would usually cause offense and a an aggressive response!…. If he did get beat up it’s great publicity so really he has little to lose either way.!
I CAN TAKE LOTS OF LITTLE ONES😂😂😂
Ralphus was awesome.
Oh, and so was Jameson.
Wrestle me mark
8:44 Apparently "Sir Samurai" is also a member of the rebellion?
Louis Theroux-up
Pistol Pez Whatley is one of those guys that had a hot run during the NWA era, but became elevational talent after Turner bought Crockett. To their credit, the Power Plant did a good job of producing new talent. It just wasn't Pez Whatley or Sargeant Buddy Lee Parker of the Highway Patrol )yes, that was his FULL ring name).
great video. he is just quite rude. and your breakdown of why non wresting fans resent wrestling fans' capacity to enjoy it is spot on.
On the subject of Sarge's hazing, it should be pointed out that it was due to him, and WCW Powerplant, that Dave Bautista went to WWF - after being told he'd never make it as a wrestler. In the end Batista got proper coaching under guys like Afa Anoa'i, and then later with Jim Cornette at OVW. The rest is history.
How would Louis know hard body Harrison would later be a master criminal
How are you going to know when something’s a joke?
It's a tough one as he is being disrespectful but I don't feel it's just because its wrestling as all the Theroux at the time was like this. It's not aged well at all but not everything has to and its a product of its time.
The Louis Theroux show worked at the time, especially for a British audience. Behind the scenes of wrestling was still an unknown. Hardcore wrestling wasn't a mainstream product here and indie American hardcore wrestling shows were definitely foreign territory to British people. The lack of research with WCW was poor but his adult audience would be mostly unfamiliar with with current American wrestling.
I have the full episode on dvd along with the Jimmy Savile episode
15:05
Team Canada Elix Skipper and Kid Romeo!
Saville was also a wrestler at one point, no?
9:20 damn, pistol pez had all the steroids.
Didn't Dory funk jr have to re train a lot of guy sarge had trained when wwe bought wcw? Basically because they wouldn't look after their opponents dropping them on their heads etc? The only real graduates with long term careers were DDP and Kevin Nash they went when Jody Hamilton and Mike "never drew a dime" Graham ran the school. The only hard ass in that room when louis was there was a young chael sonnen, he was training with wcw then he went back to college and obviously the UFC. The AIWF guys were sweethearts when Louis came back from the powerplant first question they asked him "they didn't beat you up or nothing?" Genuinely concerned for louis.
loved this doc
This aired in the USA. I watched it thought this Louis was a stereotype of a British wimp.
The same people that call it fake and then go watch movies and tv shows where it is fake
Sarge will always be known as the worst wrestling trainer ever.
From what you're making it sound, Theroux's bit with Waititi was way worse than Jimmy Savile. And that's saying something.
Its definitely more cringe.
I like Louis Theroux but he was really stupid for going in to this with zero research. I think he expected pro wrestlers to be idiot meat heads but the majority of the people he meets are very nice. It's like he went in to it trying to mock wrestling which is really annoying because generally i think Louis is alright.
But that was the whole premise of Weird Weekends, you go in and learn as the audience does
Yes Louis!!
"The problem with wrestling at that time was you had to be tough." 😂 Entertaining vid, but that line gave me a chuckle. That's why wrestling is soooo much better now because the simuated fighters "don't have to be tough" anymore.
Adam Cole would never have had a chance back then.
Lol has anyone ever told you that you sound like John Oliver?
Was that The Jeti talking to Louis on the bucket?
yeah it was reese.
@@lewisb85 Did you say super giant ninja?
Im surprised the great brian danzig is still wrestling lol.
Pistol Pez was over in the 70s and 80s in the south .
So Theroux's style has always been "give them enough rope", exactly as you saw with Ora. Weird Weekends was about (with caveats about who is in the editor's chair) allowing the subjects to reveal themselves (Marc defends Raven, I remember at the time thinking it was prime "Do You Know Who I Am?" behaviour. Raven sensed an enemy, I remember thinking "Wow these guys are paranoid"). It's been a loooong time since I saw the original series but from what I remember (and it's very possible that I have misremembered) it allowed good people within those shows to shine, and you ended up feeling warm/sympathetic/supportive towards them rather than laughing at them.
I always remember the dim, but quite sweet, budding pornstar from the porn episode and at the end you thought, oh boy, I hope this industry doesn't chew him up and spit him out (no pun intended). Wrestling has that side too, as many a Dark Side episode and previous Wrestlemes could attest. So there might have been a story there. Theroux and the team will have known about wrestling's reputation and would have wanted to play on it - hence the "is it real?" faux-naïf line. The problem was they just didn’t have a good angle (and yet there is Hardbody Harrison, but you can't be psychic) - you couldn't follow someone just breaking into WCW and you couldn't inveigle yourself in how you might if you were talking to a church or a swingers scene. And in the end no obvious story revealed itself. So Marc is right, in a way, that the wrestling episode is rather thin gruel - but I think it's unfair to brand the whole exercise as being in bad faith.
But I could be wrong. It definitely could be "let's all laugh at the poors" from a privileged public schoolboy nepo baby. I think it certainly would have been if it were his Dad. I don’t know. Who knows anyone's motives these days?
i want to fight you in a shoot cage match