nadeska talking about loyalty.. the whole kanye rant was about loyalty, how blue has never even met north.. jay and beyonce didnt go to his wedding.. wont even answer kanyes calls.. how about that aspect of loyalty?
Jay is a business man, at the end of the day it's all about the money and being on top. Kanye is an artist, it's all about the product and connecting with the people. Kanye viewed Jay as a brother, but Jay viewed Kanye as an asset.
He almost literally apologized to everybody about the price points of high fashion and that his end goal is to make fashion accessible to everybody. He gives a great example of Vertu phones. Steve Jobs, he says, made iPhone, a high end phone for a median price point that strikes a balance between quality and worth. After iPhones, have you heard of any diamond studded Vertu phones?
Joe Budden is often right on many things, more often than not, but he is on the wrong side of the argument when Kanye is brought up. Listen to "Saint Pablo" and you'll hear almost every topic Jay-Z addressed throughout "4:44", all on one song and an entire year earlier. The deterioration of Kanye and Jay's relationship goes further back than just that stage rant, and Budden knows that, but wants to obfuscate because he's clouded by his current Jay-Z sycophant state. Which is strange, considering Budden's entire career has been the result of what happens when you dare challenge Jay-Z openly. I couldn't help but laugh at Budden question Akademiks: "When you're frustrated with your job, it's okay to be insubordinate?", as if Budden isn't the walking embodiment of insubordination (and proud of it). Whatever, man. Jay has always just used Kanye for business, and Kanye has started to wake up to that reality. Akademiks is right about the timeline, and I usually don't agree with him on anything. Smarten up, Joe.
Joe is really contradicting himself saying It isn't ok to be insubordinate when you get frustrated at work but I remember him dropping the mic when interviewing Migos 🤔
I dont think anybody makes better MUSIC than Kanye West. College Dropout, Late Registration, Graduation etc..... Goat. if u disagree, please listen to these three albums.
@@michaelbratton5513 I agree, but I think its hard to be definitive about the best rapper. The thing thats so great about Hip Hop is that depending on your mood your top 5 or 10 is forever changing. I think that if we're talking about the GOAT there are so many variables to consider and many could qualify. KW isnt the GOAT to me, he isnt in my top 10 of all rime but I can see why he is for some. For me it has to be Rakim, or Em, 50, Jay....there was a time DMX would be on the list NAS, BIG, Pac...and now we got some good new cats like Joyner or Staples...I think its easier to clear the names of rappers who dont qualify than to nail down who should be considered.
@@solas444 ye got him more subscribers than he already had on tidal. It's all business. Ye looked up to Jay, Jay just saw Ye as a lesser producer-rapper figure.
And to be honest, that's how you have to be in order to be successful in America. Look at every businessman and businesswoman. Nine times out of ten, that person is vicious in their attempt to succeed. And they succeed. That's life, look down on those beneath you, undercut those on the same level, and defeat those above you.
Now Joe is letting J off the hook, Kanye said point blank, that this music streaming service wars was killing the artist's collaboration with one another. Kanye mentored Drake when he came out, Jay Z has done songs with Drake, and Now they can't work together..c'mon! That's hypocritical on Jay's part. You're my friend and you don't come to my wedding? Foul! I do a song with Coldplay, you do a song with Coldplay? Foul! We're supposed to be best friends and our kids haven't played together? Foul! Beyonce stole Ledisi's performance of Precious Lord at an award show, although she Beyonce didn't have anything to do with the movie or soundtrack! Foul! So why exactly would Kanye need a pass, and better yet why in the hell wouldn't he be upset. Not to mention that Tidal let his album leak costing him who knows how much money, I'd be pissed too. Jay apologized for everything on this album except for what he's done to Kanye.
Name another billionaire business owner giving life lessons over fire beats? 👆That's why hip hop is important. That's why hip hop is feared and dumbed down rappers are pushed.
the argument at like 9:30, i agree with Joe. But i also think Joe isn't seeing the full picture. Mumble rappers release 12 mixtapes per month as a whole, as a "culture". We get maybe 3-5 RAP albums per year. Bars, rhyming, and pronunciation are what OGs listen to, not children. So although it seems Ak supports mumble rap more, it's because they release more music, which isn't always a good thing.
Budden a hater man, Kanye had and has every right to say what he wants. Jay Z has been leeching off Ye since the beginning. He has never supported Kanye in anything or came to his defense during difficult times. Jay Z is selfish and does not see Kanye as a brother and I hope Kanye cuts ties with him. Jay drops 1 conscious album out of 13 ignorant ones (when Ye been spitting truth since the beginning) and now everyone's jumping on his old ass bandwagon. Cut the B.S.. Also Ye>>>>Jay
Joe is d riding Jay Z... It's well known that Jay Z is an opportunist who has taken advantage of alot of artists he's signed. It's a tie between him and Diddy. Kanye was speaking the truth. I would think Joe would respect that considering he is outspoken. God job Ak for not backing down on your opinion. You are intelligent. Thank you for letting us know Jay's tours aren't selling well. That's karma for his arrogant ass always taking advantage of somebody.
Kanye has done way more for the culture. He made it possible for guys like J Cole and Kendrick to become stars instead of a guy that got stuck in Common's lane. He started the fashion influencer trend and got rappers to start viewing rap a platform to cross into more industries. Who would more people be excited to work with objectively?
At the end of the day Kanye a juggernaut, hate him or not. He has his thumb on the cultural pulse. Whatever that man does is gold. I don't care how you view him you cannot deny this.
Jay shouted out Playboi Carti to try to get album sales. Meanwhile, Desiigner and these other dudes have actual careers or accelerated their careers (Chance & Travis) bc of Kanye. One feels purely about money. One feels about money and advancing how we view black artists
Jay-Z put Kanye on first but lets not forget his production put Jay-Z on another level (Blueprint, Black Album etc.) Jay-Z is by far the better Rapper but as an artist, performer Kanye is the best no doubt.
I don't ak listened to this album or any other album. he doesn't really got in depth or gives personal examples of how and why likes the album his whole view on the album was very general and vague
These two are speaking generational differences. one is speaking about life etiquettes and the other about cultural norms. great to listen to them must say.
Agree with Joe's tho. This 4.44 is and adult album. No crappy contents like these young nigga's albums that talk about sex money drugs shit. He's way past that. He talk about his achievement, his mistakes, his past, and his future with tough love advise to his mates.
you can't just say one is better than the other we're comparing apples to oranges here. Jay is amazing at what he does and Kanye is also a amazing artist.
kanye doesn't know who kanye is he is still trying find himself he's a walking contraversy n that's what most people like and we all know controversy sells
nadeska talking about loyalty.. the whole kanye rant was about loyalty, how blue has never even met north.. jay and beyonce didnt go to his wedding.. wont even answer kanyes calls.. how about that aspect of loyalty?
Jay is a business man, at the end of the day it's all about the money and being on top.
Kanye is an artist, it's all about the product and connecting with the people.
Kanye viewed Jay as a brother, but Jay viewed Kanye as an asset.
Here we go. This is the true source of the disconnect that not enough people are seeing, but it's staring them right in the face.
He almost literally apologized to everybody about the price points of high fashion and that his end goal is to make fashion accessible to everybody. He gives a great example of Vertu phones. Steve Jobs, he says, made iPhone, a high end phone for a median price point that strikes a balance between quality and worth. After iPhones, have you heard of any diamond studded Vertu phones?
lmao you are so stupid
Bob “I’m a businessman not a business man”
@@reeee9991 you quoted that wrong buddy.
You know Joe made that shirt himself when he misspelled Nadeska
Joe Budden is often right on many things, more often than not, but he is on the wrong side of the argument when Kanye is brought up. Listen to "Saint Pablo" and you'll hear almost every topic Jay-Z addressed throughout "4:44", all on one song and an entire year earlier.
The deterioration of Kanye and Jay's relationship goes further back than just that stage rant, and Budden knows that, but wants to obfuscate because he's clouded by his current Jay-Z sycophant state. Which is strange, considering Budden's entire career has been the result of what happens when you dare challenge Jay-Z openly.
I couldn't help but laugh at Budden question Akademiks: "When you're frustrated with your job, it's okay to be insubordinate?", as if Budden isn't the walking embodiment of insubordination (and proud of it). Whatever, man. Jay has always just used Kanye for business, and Kanye has started to wake up to that reality. Akademiks is right about the timeline, and I usually don't agree with him on anything. Smarten up, Joe.
3:12 AK sound like a turkey gobbling
Kj Watters 😂😂😂😂
lmao
Kj Watters lol
Yoooooo
bruh 💀💀💀 LMFAO
Jay - Lyrically better, since he does only Rap
Kayne - Artistically better, he does a lot of other things
😊 mind not changing
Your right
Jay z artistically is dope tho but not as good as Kanye ye has a habit of making shit colorful as to jay when he paints a picture it’s very gritty
Joe burden finally evolved into lord jamar
UpscaleRiots Official 😭😭😭😭😭
lmao
LMFAOOO you foul af for that😂😂😂.
Joe is really contradicting himself saying It isn't ok to be insubordinate when you get frustrated at work but I remember him dropping the mic when interviewing Migos 🤔
Jay Z is a better RAPPER. Kanye is a better ARTIST.
Dallas Hall As a Kanye fan, that's fair.
Dallas Hall I can agree with that. Jay has better bars and word play, Ye takes more chances and experiments a lot. Both are dope
yup
Kanye don't even write his raps
Junie Gyllenhaal exactly why he’s an artist and not a rapper
I dont think anybody makes better MUSIC than Kanye West. College Dropout, Late Registration, Graduation etc..... Goat. if u disagree, please listen to these three albums.
mable duncan listened to all his albums trust me he’s not the goat
@@michaelbratton5513 I agree, but I think its hard to be definitive about the best rapper. The thing thats so great about Hip Hop is that depending on your mood your top 5 or 10 is forever changing. I think that if we're talking about the GOAT there are so many variables to consider and many could qualify. KW isnt the GOAT to me, he isnt in my top 10 of all rime but I can see why he is for some. For me it has to be Rakim, or Em, 50, Jay....there was a time DMX would be on the list NAS, BIG, Pac...and now we got some good new cats like Joyner or Staples...I think its easier to clear the names of rappers who dont qualify than to nail down who should be considered.
Ew bruh
His other albums are good? Some are better than his og 3 imo
How has Jay-Z looked out for Kanye? Jay wasn't a real friend. He was okay with Kanye as long as he could make money off him.
L
“gave him 20 million without blinking he gave me 20 minutes on stage fuck was he thinking”
@@solas444 ye got him more subscribers than he already had on tidal. It's all business. Ye looked up to Jay, Jay just saw Ye as a lesser producer-rapper figure.
@@solas444 that 20 mill was a loan my guy
Jay Never believed in Kanye rapping
I feel like akademiks and Joe really hate each other 😂😂💀
Gumi X naw theyre great friends
Can't front. Joe came in with some strong points today.
yes
SavvyOverSwag his ignorance left with his goofy beard
Made Nadeska wet af in the end LOL
doesitlooklikeimleftoffbadandboujee
Ohioison firee sayagain?👀
doesitlooklikeimleftoffbadandboujee
Ohioison firee 😂😂😂
Ohioison firee what u say?
Ohioison firee come again
why do this people need jay z to know that they should support black owned business ? lmao
If Common were as conscious as Jay, he wouldn't have let Serena get away.
Kanye and Jay were never friends. Ye thought they were. Jay in my personal five but he's a vicious opportunist.
And to be honest, that's how you have to be in order to be successful in America. Look at every businessman and businesswoman. Nine times out of ten, that person is vicious in their attempt to succeed. And they succeed. That's life, look down on those beneath you, undercut those on the same level, and defeat those above you.
and some how Tyga still takes an L
pillage Don't forget Meek
pillage russ
Now Joe is letting J off the hook, Kanye said point blank, that this music streaming service wars was killing the artist's collaboration with one another. Kanye mentored Drake when he came out, Jay Z has done songs with Drake, and Now they can't work together..c'mon! That's hypocritical on Jay's part. You're my friend and you don't come to my wedding? Foul! I do a song with Coldplay, you do a song with Coldplay? Foul! We're supposed to be best friends and our kids haven't played together? Foul! Beyonce stole Ledisi's performance of Precious Lord at an award show, although she Beyonce didn't have anything to do with the movie or soundtrack! Foul! So why exactly would Kanye need a pass, and better yet why in the hell wouldn't he be upset. Not to mention that Tidal let his album leak costing him who knows how much money, I'd be pissed too. Jay apologized for everything on this album except for what he's done to Kanye.
Nadeska got wet when Joe took that W in the end.
Yeah, I kinda noticed that too! Lol
Name another billionaire business owner giving life lessons over fire beats?
👆That's why hip hop is important.
That's why hip hop is feared and dumbed down rappers are pushed.
Ye
15:20 kanye talk
goat
Kanye is better at making beats but Jay got the bars no doubt
I'll never be tired of Kanye. He's a genius and there will always be haters.
Still feel the same?
Kanye may have more creative soundbeds but he's not competing with Jay lyrically
Kanye >>>> bum jay z
WHY DOES NADESKA CUT THEM OFF WHEN THEY START TO REALLY VIBE AND ASK THE QUESTIONS I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE FUCK
Bonnie Sanchez Rt she starting to get annoying
Bro I swear. If this was just Akademics and Joe arguing it'd be more entertaining lol
Talking about loyalties girrrlll u should be talking bout why jay z didn't call Kanye when the Paris incident happen ...
When budden was dissin drake, em went on stage with drake. So apparently business overrides affiliations.
Joe Budden definitely looking younger with that facial hair gone
the argument at like 9:30, i agree with Joe. But i also think Joe isn't seeing the full picture. Mumble rappers release 12 mixtapes per month as a whole, as a "culture". We get maybe 3-5 RAP albums per year. Bars, rhyming, and pronunciation are what OGs listen to, not children. So although it seems Ak supports mumble rap more, it's because they release more music, which isn't always a good thing.
Nas has his work cut out for him 🤔
mqondisi cele I was thinking the same thing after Kendrick dropped. Now it's Kendrick and Jay. The album done? He better go back on the studio!
Budden a hater man, Kanye had and has every right to say what he wants. Jay Z has been leeching off Ye since the beginning. He has never supported Kanye in anything or came to his defense during difficult times. Jay Z is selfish and does not see Kanye as a brother and I hope Kanye cuts ties with him. Jay drops 1 conscious album out of 13 ignorant ones (when Ye been spitting truth since the beginning) and now everyone's jumping on his old ass bandwagon. Cut the B.S.. Also Ye>>>>Jay
Elias Lee please shut the fuck up
real talk
Preachhhhhhh
Joe is d riding Jay Z... It's well known that Jay Z is an opportunist who has taken advantage of alot of artists he's signed. It's a tie between him and Diddy. Kanye was speaking the truth. I would think Joe would respect that considering he is outspoken. God job Ak for not backing down on your opinion. You are intelligent. Thank you for letting us know Jay's tours aren't selling well. That's karma for his arrogant ass always taking advantage of somebody.
Why does Ak let Joe belittle him, that's crazy lol.
..AYO...REAL SHIT....WHY DID AKADEMIKS JUST MAKE A SOUND LIKE THE TURKEYS ON SOUTH PARK @ 3:13 ??? WHAT IN THE BLUE HELL.......
Seriously Joe Budden needs to get back to making music.
Kanye better than Jay... end of story
sick ja not lyrically
Kanye WAS better than Jay Z
sick ja JAY is father to KANYE
He was before he dropped Yeezus.
sick ja thats not even the point of this video u fkn idiot
Shoutout Nasir Jones
Yea....19:41-19:48 is exactly what I say at the end of every season of Flash lmao
gabriel FND 😂😂😂😂😂
FAAAAACTS!!!!
Can we get a supercut of Nadeska sighing?
Kanye has done way more for the culture. He made it possible for guys like J Cole and Kendrick to become stars instead of a guy that got stuck in Common's lane. He started the fashion influencer trend and got rappers to start viewing rap a platform to cross into more industries. Who would more people be excited to work with objectively?
Jovan Robinson stop fooling yourself
they start talking about Kanye at 15:40. you're welcome.
2:12 joe laugh sound like he ready to take over the world
Lmfao Dj Akademiks has the most priceless face ever! He stares at Joe like he is reading words coming out of his mouth.
for Joe to have battled drugs and gone through a lot, the man looks good.
I'm sayin this every video....Nadeska is fine
We stand with Ye
Wale is corny
Gary Lineker facts fam. have a good day
Gary Lineker facts
Why did you make a profile called Gary Lineker I thought it was the real football legend 😂😂😂
wale sus
JAY Z IS A LEGEND HE'S MADE AN AMAZING HOW HE HAS MANAGED TO SAY MORE BY SAYING LESS PERFECT FOR THE TIME OF THE MUMBLE RAPPER
Kinda miss ak, joe, an nadeska together. Prolly one of the best shows online. Hopefully this come back in the near future.
the thing Joe don't want to believe is that AK is open minded when it comes to music
Vol. 1
You must love me - Jay Z
Talks about shooting his brother.
Kanye > Everybody. Yeah I'm that guy.
I miss this chemistry. Biggest mistake complex ever made was not bringing Joe back.
At the end of the day Kanye a juggernaut, hate him or not. He has his thumb on the cultural pulse. Whatever that man does is gold. I don't care how you view him you cannot deny this.
Does adressing social,personal and political issues make this a good album?
I'm 21, big fan of jay and loved the album
Why I feel like the Jawn in the middle hella under appreciated😂😭 like ion even kno her name
Wheres the whole video?
Wish I could listen to the album but tidal ain't my wallets friend. 😂
Jay shouted out Playboi Carti to try to get album sales. Meanwhile, Desiigner and these other dudes have actual careers or accelerated their careers (Chance & Travis) bc of Kanye. One feels purely about money. One feels about money and advancing how we view black artists
cole....rihanna....meekmil....uzi.....RocNation has more artists than GOOD music does...learnyour facts
This album gave me Kanye vibes and I saw it as his adult self talking to his younger self and looking back on his past life.
Jay-Z put Kanye on first but lets not forget his production put Jay-Z on another level (Blueprint, Black Album etc.) Jay-Z is by far the better Rapper but as an artist, performer Kanye is the best no doubt.
Kanye more influential than Jay
Mainstream albums couldn't come out sounding like 444 if Kanye hadn't paved the way.
They need to get together again and make an album. Watch the throne is my favorite album of all time.
Kanye>>>>>Jay-Z
LOL @ 18:48 Joes face: In what fucking universe? , meme that
To think what would happen if Kanye sided with Dame instead of Jay
I don't ak listened to this album or any other album. he doesn't really got in depth or gives personal examples of how and why likes the album his whole view on the album was very general and vague
I usually don't roll with DJ Akdemiks, but on this one he sounded like the voice of reason.
First of all, he looks like a happier person with the shave
Kanyes music is more artful but jays rapping is more meaningful.
this the type of shit i put on in the back while i do other random shit.
why it feel like akademiks and joe are getting cooler w each other
salute to joe for having a selective memory lol.
Why does Joe look like the great value version of Will Smith
I love this show!!!! Where have I been!?!?!
Joe Budden thought he was Ghost
"Bums on the street have good intentions"😂😂
These two are speaking generational differences. one is speaking about life etiquettes and the other about cultural norms. great to listen to them must say.
Agree with Joe's tho. This 4.44 is and adult album. No crappy contents like these young nigga's albums that talk about sex money drugs shit. He's way past that. He talk about his achievement, his mistakes, his past, and his future with tough love advise to his mates.
jay went 5x platinum wit volume 2 ovo goon u buggin
i love this beard on Joe.
18:20 why is joe talking bout being frustrated with a job and reacting a certain way???? He reacted a certain way when he was frustrated with migos??
I boils mine -ruffalo
"THIS IS REAL DEEK DIBBIN" word..
they need to talk about big krit on here
smh complex late on everything
Jose la flame how
Jose la flame they have to edit everything
Illuminati 4:44 upside down is 666 lmfao illuminati exposed
Funny shit is what if tho may never know.
Sneakerhead ATL yeah Jay Z is illuminati because the illuminati wants black people to succeed foh
Sneakerhead ATL actually 999 is 666 upside-down
For simple minded Niggaz....You probably thought it was true when Jay told you that numbers don't Lie.
If you had any sense, you would know they don't. 4 has a different vibration than 6. But you don't understand it enough to be discussing.
honestly you can't compare them different generations Kanye was the start of the new generation
Fuck 20mill ye could've scooped AT LEAST 50million off the Apple deal
Listen to what Kanye said about Jay-z on record compared to what Jay-z said about Kanye
Which record?
Big Brother off of Kanye's Graduation album.
No rapper in the game can even compare with Kanye. Kanye is making history.
ITS BOOM that's a ridiculous statement
how?. & he can't be historic with that as his wife.
@ 18:30 ..............KANYE EXPLAINED.
Explain life of pablo then, most overrated hip hop album of 2016
Fair enough
Jay Z monthly Spotify streams: under 8M
Future monthly Spotify streams: over 27M
N.W.A. sign of the apocalypse for sure
Wouldn't expect anything less from the GOAT. The album is really dope
you can't just say one is better than the other we're comparing apples to oranges here. Jay is amazing at what he does and Kanye is also a amazing artist.
kanye doesn't know who kanye is he is still trying find himself he's a walking contraversy n that's what most people like and we all know controversy sells
Finally, someone said it. Kanye get's too many passes.
this looks like the akademiks comment section 😁