I have a theory. There is absolutely no evidence for this, but what if Mrs. Flood is one of the Doctor's parents? Either, his real parents from the alternate universe, a regeneration of Tectaun, or the Doctor's second adopted mother from his post fugitive days. And as a segue, The Timeless Child has a problem nobody talks about. People say it's a retcon. It's not. They say it breaks regeneration and/or the Doctor's childhood. It doesn't. The real problem lies in Rise of The Cybermen. In that episode, the Doctor was only able to use himself to power the Tardis because he was from the Tardis's universe. Ergo, the Doctor must be from the base universe.
I hadn't really thought too hard about this until you mentioned all the pieces, but yeah, Rassilon was exiled from Gallifrey, which means that he wouldn't have been there for The Master's cyber conversion of them all. I like the idea of The Narrator being his Time Lord "nickname"/"title", too. He really did kind of do that for the Tennant specials.
I like your idea here. The fan theory that feels the strongest to me though is that she is the goddess of time from expanded lore. Davies has been pulling from expanded lore with characters like the meep so it looks like a brewing pattern. All that said he relishes in misdirection and deception in order to keep us guessing so all bets are really off.
Like any of them know what they are doing. RTD is a hack. Not that I watched any of the recent episodes but all bets are firmly on "head up his own arse". Unless you can see a correlation between his earlier work and the last sh*t show. No. I didn't think so either. Not that I've seen any of the recent episodes. I know enough to know they are losing viewers hand over fist, no one likes the latest episodes (or any of the specials) and they are more than likely to be cancelled before anyone (including RTD) knows anything about Mrs Flood. And in fairness, she was a sh*t character also. Oh! Here comes another 4th wall break. I can't work out if they done more of those or more of the doctor crying?
"The Beast and his armies shall rise from the pit to make war against God". The Ood - The Impossible Planet. "Do you believe in the power of prayer? Then tell your maker I will come to storm down his gates of gold and sieze his kingdom in my true name". Mrs. Flood - Empire of Death. Mrs. Flood is, or is an avatar of The Beast.
I think that Mrs Flood is something else entirely. Maybe she is the TARDIS given "human" form... She is wearing former companions' clothes throughout the series, and the suitcase she's holding when she departs has stickers from places the TARDIS has visited. I don't think Rassilon has that much knowledge of the Doctor.
It's the overwhelming question, of who Mrs Flood may be known as in the Whoinverse as regards her real identities fit into context say in canon or in time and space realities timelines. Her name is Mrs Flood which we have seen so far. It is possible something perhaps an interesting place in time she could be from say a future story somewhere where she met a Doctor this specific event will probably happen a good few decades hence. So when will there be one thing that separates her from the older Mrs Flood in the distant future time scale Mrs Flood's age? If she's a time lord she'll regenerate or has, but if she travelled back in time from the future a little question arises why doesn't the Doctor see this he would notice this if she was a fellow Gallifrian or if she were someone from a different timeline. Of course, there are potential members of another race of time travel Guardians who sometimes avoid the Time Lords or move along space a different way, and it's probably them or one of them either a White Guardian or Dark Guardian or possibly the same. Mrs Flood could be an intriguing conundrum of puzzling figures. But she's not going to spoil the timelines or send The Doctor on a mysterious mission to find a mysterious object or break the 4th wall and tell us a thing till it snows. Winter White a Guardian hides in plain sight. Pantheons can dome in 4s like the four horsemen of the Apocalypse.
@TARDISTalks I like your theory! I am not happy with RTD saying that we may never get an answer... That annoys me... Your theory though does work for me!
@@TardisTalks In one respect I agree... It is kind of unfortunate that such a popular actress has played her, which has made fans theorise even more... So now we want an answer! I think back to Buffy and the "Once More With Feeling" - The explanation is weak, but its enough! And really that's all it needs to be... Fans will never be happy as they have already created their own theory and they will always prefer it!
He didn't say we wouldn't find out who she was, only that he may never reveal why she can break the 4th wall even though he does have an answer for it.
Sorry ,chaps=I saw it (twice) in 63 -thefirst ever episode-which was repeated the week after-as JFK was assassinated the Friday before the first showing!
Since RTD competly ignored (or retckoned if you will) Sutekh's storyarc from Titan Comics, I don't think Rassilon's storyarc should be considered canon either.
A female Rassilon was our Doctor´s original wife when SHE was Mary. THE Mary that gave virgin birth to POTENTIALLY the Timeless child. THis have been hinted at during 10ths time (was present at birth and death) And YES the fake name of our Doctor. John Smith That sounds ALOT like "Jo-Seph" This above is a super condensed version skiping tons of details. Just remember who created the NEW!!!! (DOomsday/Big Bang) Whoniverse (our Doctor, Pandorica and the TARDIS) (The father child and the holy Ghost monument) What i am super condesed is say is that RASSILON once was the Doctor in the Whonivere BEFORE the classic WHoniverse and that He/she created the "Classic WHoniverse and thus virgin parented the TImeless child there..... We have seen TImelords be able to Virgin birth a person (with Ncuti) that possibly is the Timeless child fo rthe new WHoniverse alongside Jenny or as I suspect "Pandora" dying in 33AD (in southwestern England instead of Judea as in the classic Whoniverse..... dying with a crown of thorns on her head just like River Song died with a Crown of thorns on her head.,... completeing a timemachine....RIVERS (the new WHoniverse timemachine.........................Pandora (the new WHoniverse TImeless child will complete a VOID SHIP instead of a timemachine when dying...= the Pandorica and how it ended up within the classic WHoniverse.... without being able to timetravel.... AS said this was super condesed there is a TON more inshow confirming the ABOVE....
PS ther eis a HUGE possibility Mrs Flood is Our Doctor´s sister the new WHite Guardian (also the Master´s mother. PPS The dying Jon Simms Master was tricked into ascending to spite Missy out of eixstance.....ONly MIssy was always an Ascended being...the NEW Black Guardian over time...
Woah! Woah! Don't you DARE ask me to subscribe because of that fantastic sequence! I'll have you know that I subscribed nearly two weeks ago! Stop being so awesome! But yes! I didn't twig that Rassilon Dalton was rassilon old guy president, who was also rassilon turned into a sarcophagus. In my defence its been donkeys years and I never got the email!
@@TardisTalks That's the thing with doctor who: you never get a "previously on Dr Who". It's just expected that you were born in 1945 and watched the show till now with total recollection. Me, I remember "Robot" but only because the Doctor was different from the one before (Pertwee, i.e., mr Splink. Bonus points if you remember that!). Rant over.
It is common practice within film and TV to not tell the actor what the plot line is as it's saves any potential leaks, season 2 has been filmed and Anita Dobson will now know who Mrs Flood is if it has been revealed in Season 2
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I have a theory. There is absolutely no evidence for this, but what if Mrs. Flood is one of the Doctor's parents? Either, his real parents from the alternate universe, a regeneration of Tectaun, or the Doctor's second adopted mother from his post fugitive days.
And as a segue, The Timeless Child has a problem nobody talks about. People say it's a retcon. It's not. They say it breaks regeneration and/or the Doctor's childhood. It doesn't. The real problem lies in Rise of The Cybermen. In that episode, the Doctor was only able to use himself to power the Tardis because he was from the Tardis's universe. Ergo, the Doctor must be from the base universe.
I hadn't really thought too hard about this until you mentioned all the pieces, but yeah, Rassilon was exiled from Gallifrey, which means that he wouldn't have been there for The Master's cyber conversion of them all. I like the idea of The Narrator being his Time Lord "nickname"/"title", too. He really did kind of do that for the Tennant specials.
Rassilon has better things to do then be a nosy neighbour
I have been waiting for Rassilon to make an appearance. I half expected him to turn up in flux.
Yeah Rassilon needs to come back!
Since Timothy Dalton was also James Bond does that mean that Rassilon has been working for His Majesty's Secret Service and has a License to Kill?
Love this theory, everything seems to fit nicely!
I like your idea here. The fan theory that feels the strongest to me though is that she is the goddess of time from expanded lore. Davies has been pulling from expanded lore with characters like the meep so it looks like a brewing pattern. All that said he relishes in misdirection and deception in order to keep us guessing so all bets are really off.
Like any of them know what they are doing. RTD is a hack. Not that I watched any of the recent episodes but all bets are firmly on "head up his own arse".
Unless you can see a correlation between his earlier work and the last sh*t show.
No. I didn't think so either. Not that I've seen any of the recent episodes. I know enough to know they are losing viewers hand over fist, no one likes the latest episodes (or any of the specials) and they are more than likely to be cancelled before anyone (including RTD) knows anything about Mrs Flood. And in fairness, she was a sh*t character also.
Oh! Here comes another 4th wall break.
I can't work out if they done more of those or more of the doctor crying?
This is my new favourite theory!
I like it also.. Hopefully one of the times I'm actually right 😂
Not where I thought this was going to go… but it has given me another theory idea also related to The End of Time.
Looking forward to seeing the video bud! 👌
Mystery Disney Theater 3000! Love it.
One of my fave overlays 😂👌
It's an intriguing theory. I like it!
Thank You! ☺️
cool Theory i never considered that
Yeah it would be cool if I was right too but.. I think I could be way off haha.
To be fair it's not that new idea. But it's interesting to see your view on that
"The Beast and his armies shall rise from the pit to make war against God". The Ood - The Impossible Planet.
"Do you believe in the power of prayer? Then tell your maker I will come to storm down his gates of gold and sieze his kingdom in my true name". Mrs. Flood - Empire of Death.
Mrs. Flood is, or is an avatar of The Beast.
Oh! So Mrs. Flood would then be a harbinger.. I mean that could be really interesting.. If done right.
@@TardisTalks It's just a guess. But it struck me how similar in tone those two pieces of dialogue are.
i think she is part of the pantheon sand she is the god of stories
I think that Mrs Flood is something else entirely. Maybe she is the TARDIS given "human" form... She is wearing former companions' clothes throughout the series, and the suitcase she's holding when she departs has stickers from places the TARDIS has visited. I don't think Rassilon has that much knowledge of the Doctor.
Nope that's been done b4
@@vader11373 that doesn't mean it can't happen again
@mikaelhultberg9543 well it does because the doctor changed the chameleon hiding g mechanism so it can never happen again
It's the overwhelming question, of who Mrs Flood may be known as in the Whoinverse as regards her real identities fit into context say in canon or in time and space realities timelines. Her name is Mrs Flood which we have seen so far. It is possible something perhaps an interesting place in time she could be from say a future story somewhere where she met a Doctor this specific event will probably happen a good few decades hence. So when will there be one thing that separates her from the older Mrs Flood in the distant future time scale Mrs Flood's age? If she's a time lord she'll regenerate or has, but if she travelled back in time from the future a little question arises why doesn't the Doctor see this he would notice this if she was a fellow Gallifrian or if she were someone from a different timeline.
Of course, there are potential members of another race of time travel Guardians who sometimes avoid the Time Lords or move along space a different way, and it's probably them or one of them either a White Guardian or Dark Guardian or possibly the same. Mrs Flood could be an intriguing conundrum of puzzling figures. But she's not going to spoil the timelines or send The Doctor on a mysterious mission to find a mysterious object or break the 4th wall and tell us a thing till it snows. Winter White a Guardian hides in plain sight. Pantheons can dome in 4s like the four horsemen of the Apocalypse.
Hmmmm, interesting idea. I still think Mrs Flood is ThE Tardis.
The best theory ❤
Hey, I've been saying Rassilon for while now xx
I'm stuck between this and Mrs. F being Iris Wildthyme.
Both interesting theories
@TARDISTalks I like your theory! I am not happy with RTD saying that we may never get an answer... That annoys me... Your theory though does work for me!
Thank You, Yeah a little annoying as its easier to not answer who she is than let us down with a disappointing answer..
@@TardisTalks In one respect I agree... It is kind of unfortunate that such a popular actress has played her, which has made fans theorise even more... So now we want an answer! I think back to Buffy and the "Once More With Feeling" - The explanation is weak, but its enough!
And really that's all it needs to be... Fans will never be happy as they have already created their own theory and they will always prefer it!
Best theory I've heard! Too bad RTD absolutely despises his fans and will definitely NOT give us a satisfying answer...
RTD has already said we may never learn anything about Mrs. Flood. So the answer is "nobody." She is nobody.
He didn't say we wouldn't find out who she was, only that he may never reveal why she can break the 4th wall even though he does have an answer for it.
And this is the curse of RTD2... he thinks deciding to withhold information is the same as being mysterious and it sullied the last season for me /:
You think you're old. Doctor Who is 61 in November, I'm 54 in 5 weeks and have been watching Who for 47 of those years.
Sorry ,chaps=I saw it (twice) in 63 -thefirst ever episode-which was repeated the week after-as JFK was assassinated the Friday before the first showing!
I'm down for this
i have had this theory for a long time
Iris Wildthyme
*PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE*
She could be romana the Rani or the monk
Since RTD competly ignored (or retckoned if you will) Sutekh's storyarc from Titan Comics, I don't think Rassilon's storyarc should be considered canon either.
I think she’s Clara
A female Rassilon was our Doctor´s original wife when SHE was Mary.
THE Mary that gave virgin birth to POTENTIALLY the Timeless child.
THis have been hinted at during 10ths time (was present at birth and death)
And
YES the fake name of our Doctor.
John Smith
That sounds ALOT like "Jo-Seph"
This above is a super condensed version skiping tons of details.
Just remember who created the NEW!!!! (DOomsday/Big Bang) Whoniverse (our Doctor, Pandorica and the TARDIS) (The father child and the holy Ghost monument)
What i am super condesed is say is that RASSILON once was the Doctor in the Whonivere BEFORE the classic WHoniverse and that He/she created the "Classic WHoniverse and thus virgin parented the TImeless child there.....
We have seen TImelords be able to Virgin birth a person (with Ncuti) that possibly is the Timeless child fo rthe new WHoniverse alongside Jenny or as I suspect "Pandora" dying in 33AD (in southwestern England instead of Judea as in the classic Whoniverse..... dying with a crown of thorns on her head just like River Song died with a Crown of thorns on her head.,... completeing a timemachine....RIVERS (the new WHoniverse timemachine.........................Pandora (the new WHoniverse TImeless child will complete a VOID SHIP instead of a timemachine when dying...= the Pandorica and how it ended up within the classic WHoniverse.... without being able to timetravel....
AS said this was super condesed there is a TON more inshow confirming the ABOVE....
PS ther eis a HUGE possibility Mrs Flood is Our Doctor´s sister the new WHite Guardian (also the Master´s mother.
PPS
The dying Jon Simms Master was tricked into ascending to spite Missy out of eixstance.....ONly MIssy was always an Ascended being...the NEW Black Guardian over time...
Woah! Woah! Don't you DARE ask me to subscribe because of that fantastic sequence!
I'll have you know that I subscribed nearly two weeks ago! Stop being so awesome! But yes! I didn't twig that Rassilon Dalton was rassilon old guy president, who was also rassilon turned into a sarcophagus. In my defence its been donkeys years and I never got the email!
Glad I could bring you up to date 😂, happy you enjoyed the video though and thank you for subscribing ☺️!
@@TardisTalks That's the thing with doctor who: you never get a "previously on Dr Who". It's just expected that you were born in 1945 and watched the show till now with total recollection. Me, I remember "Robot" but only because the Doctor was different from the one before (Pertwee, i.e., mr Splink. Bonus points if you remember that!).
Rant over.
She's the Absorbaloff definitely
Completely
Ant p uk
😂😂 We all wish it was!! 😂
Mrs. Flood is The Flood from "The Waters of Mars". FACT.
She’s the Rani or Iris Wildthyme.
Not the Rani...
Rtd doesn't even know who she is. Her character after wrapping has no idea. It's stupid shot and pointless
It is common practice within film and TV to not tell the actor what the plot line is as it's saves any potential leaks, season 2 has been filmed and Anita Dobson will now know who Mrs Flood is if it has been revealed in Season 2