The Best Drilling Coolant I've Ever Used for Drilling Steel
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- The best drilling coolant I have ever used for drilling steel might surprise you. In this video we are continuing with the big coal forge build while the rain continues outside. This forge hopefully will work well for us.
Another one of Jim's tips that makes it easier for all of us.Thanks again Jim
Thanks for watching
You are great
Thank you Jim again for your help, you deserve the attention to your channel that you get. I have drilled millions of holes working at two machine shops. Most of the counter bores and holes I drilled were in grey cast iron with the standard coolant most machine shops use. I don't know the chemical content but water and oil and something to mix the two was used.
Excellent tip! I knew a guy who had a bandsaw mill , he put w/shield washer fluid in his coolant tank! Now I know why!
I've used the pink Antifreeze (animal safe) and 20% soluble oil mix (flood coolant) in my horizontal bandsaw for 15 years now - never freezes up and blade life is tremendous
I saw this and was very, very skeptical but I didn’t have time to go to the hardware store for more cutting oil. I gave Windex a try in a pinch and OMG it blew me away! IT WORKED LIKE A CHARM! Windex will be my go to coolant for drilling metals from now on! Thanks for the video.
Your comment reads like a text from my sister lmao
I just used that Windex today, work better than anything else I've tried, even better than professional fluids. Thanks for the tip!
Glad it worked well for you, have a good one.
I'm gonna give this a try!! I use windex for everything else might as well use it for this too.
You get my email by chance? I finally sent you those measurements.
TheTradesmanChannel I did not but I'll double check
im an old guy, a machinist and i have never heard or tryed this windex for coolant, thanks for the tip.
I'm surprised
i used to run CNC mills back in the 70's and 80's , we used sperm whale oil for coolant until that was finally made illegal rightfully so , then different other stuff that made me sick, we had to learn how to transfer the heat into the chip not the part, somewhat easy on the milling machine, not so much on the drills, all we needed was windshield wash.
I tried using Windex, and it worked way better than the best cutting oil I've used since I was 17 years old. The bits really do stay cool. I even use it with my mag drill and annular cutters. I know it's hard to believe, but it's true; Jim wouldn't steer you wrong. BTW, use your oil or WD40 to spray your bits down after use to reduce the chance of rusting.
It's good stuff for sure.
Nice I have 1 1/4 inch hole to drill tomorrow for work and this is exactly what I wanted to find when I searched DIY🙂 good review
Hope it helps.
This is brilliant! I don't have to shell put for the expensive coolant!
As a ironworker we don't want oil on the steel. I use soap from the shitter mixed in a bottle of water. It works just fine with a annular bit on a mag drill.
Dude I totally just googled a question and you were my answer! Great job
Nice
@TheTradesmanChannel thoughts on how to get through an old stainless steel sink? Can it be done with a standard drill, if so, what kind of bit? I have a Milwaukee M18 Hammer Drill
It can be done using the same method.
I’m glad to hear this. Easy, cheap and effective
Strong ammonia is caustic to steel, I once had a leaking gallon of blueprint fluid which is much stronger than household ammonia, and it rusted the entire big drill press like it sat outside for years. IF ammonia is the secret ingredient for maximum cooling, what is the best %, and what else to mix in to prevent rusting or corroding the drill press table etc. Does the washer fluid evaporate as quickly as window cleaner? I'd guess window cleaner has more ammonia. I was also curious about trying those silicone-rich tile and stone sealers, or other silicone products, not sure if too slick..
Good Morning Jim, Windex also has alcohol in it that has a very fast evaporation rate which also helps to cool.
Good point, hello Grant.
Ah, you never cease to amaze, this is going to be another exciting project.
Thank you
thanks Jim.good tips. thanks again from Singapore
Thank you
Impressive demonstration.
Almost 30 years ago my dad told me to go out to the truck and drill holes down the center of the king pins so we could replace them. Several hours later and several drillbits and a whole bottle of oil later with a hole maybe 1 inch deep he came out to check on me... He handed me a couple of dollars and and said go get a bottle of amonia. That drill bit went all the way through the king pins like butter after that. 10 minutes to drill both sides about 8 inches deep. I think there is a lot more than just cooling going on there. About an hour after finishing the holes the king pins fell out all on their own.
I was reading the bottle on some car windshield washer fluid and I swear it said to keep it away from flame and hot objects because it can be flammable. I wouldn't be surprised if it has some alcohol or something in it to keep it from freezing. Household windex would be mostly ammonia and a wax like substance that helps it shine things up. I'll have to give this a try.
i never knew the thing about egyptian refrigeration, ingenious. thanks
Hi Jim another instructional video, keep them coming
Hello Doug
Weather getting better there I hope Jim
Hopefully by the weekend.
God bless you it was very useful knowledge you have shared with us. Very interesting and very useful
we only use window washer fluid in our sawmill. I ll tell the shop to buy some windex.
Thanks for the tip. I'll keep that in mind for any metal drilling or cutting I do in the future.
Hello Dan
Awe brilliant, this is just what I needed ,thanks so much!!!👌🙏
Amazing! I'll definitely use it if it'll save me from buying bits. Thanks for the late night!
Good evening.
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At 3:36 -
"I feel like 'Wilson' from Home Improvement."
BAAAHAHAAA!!
That was really funny! Brought back lots of good memories...Thanks man.
Loved that show growing up.
Stopped the vid and gave it a like as soon as you mentioned evaporative effects, thanks!
I use windex on my dimond plates to sharpening plane blade and chisels.
It worked ..simple.. thank you.. straight forward..
Glad it worked for you.
Dear Jim,
Great to see & hear you've discovered a good lubricant. Indeed there is nothing quite a good lube when things are challenging to say the least. A whiff of Ammonia will really knock your socks off, not the kind of stuff I'd recommend as well as irritating the mucous membrane up your hooter. It'll also be likely to induce headaches amongst other ills. Ammonia based refrigerant used to be mostly for caravans & motorhomes but they do a have an issue with dealing with extremes of temperatures ( negative ambient that is). I hope the weather lifts up a bit so as to allow you to return to your barn. Go & have a good rest meanwhile, you've earned it. Kind regards.
This is amazing! Thanks. The lack of stink from lard oil or paraffin sells me.
Good information and I will try it out. I do not like the oil stain when drilling metal.Thanks and have a good day.💚
You too Don.
I will
LOL. I had to do the same slap. The crappy weather can leave any day. I learned something new today about Windex going back to bed till the sun comes out.
Good morning Larry.
ohhh the wife is going to be mad now... No more window cleaner! its going to the shop! Thanks for sharing Jim, Take care.
Good evening, good luck with the boss.
Morning Jim. I don't do much metal work, but next time I do I'll give it a go. Gotta be better than cleaning up oil!
It is, good morning Chris.
Thank You Sir !!!!!!! another great vid !! learned a lot >>>>>
First i have hear of this ,going to have to try it ,if painting will make paint stick to the steel much easier than oil would also .
It works well.
I've been using amonia in hair coloring containers. It also works well sucks the heat away. Amo mm ia is used in some high pressure fluid cutting units its also used in Industrial HVAC systems. So it sounds like the magice is in amonia and alcohol??? Good stuff❤.
That is is
Thanks Jim for sharing this tip. Very helpful and good to know. Have a Blessed Day Friend!
You too.
Thanks for the Tips ...
....will say the oil smokes away very quickly, once it heats up.
Yes it does.
I'm a retired machinist. I worked mostly in exotic metals like stainless in it's many compounds, inconel, Hastoly, to mention a few. The best coolant I ever used was a Castrol vegtable oil product that not just cooled but lubricated so well I was able to run tools 20 to 30% faster and they lasted much longer. Of course this was in a Highend machine shop. Now the amusing part. When working in my garage with hand tools and deep hole drilling in mild steel I needed something to cool my drill. There was no oil left so I grabed a spray bottle of anything. It was Windex out of my car cleaning supplies. It worked sirprisingly well. I still use it from time to time as we always have some on hand.
Hastoloy is some neat stuff, I've seen a little of it from time to time.
@@TheTradesmanChannel Have you tried mixing anything with the Windex?
@@TheLightningStalker 80% windex and 20% soluble oil makes a great mix for cutting fluid
Minute 5:50 had me like 😦😧😦. Could not believe what i was seeing, specially after having a couple hand burns this week while working with steel. 😆
I'm just plain dumb about gloves, hate wearing them but I'm getting better.
Morning Jim, Kewl tip (pun intended)! I'll be giving it a try as it seems to make a lot of sense to me and seeing you grab that bit after drilling out those holes was a seal the deal moment. Thanks! Looking forward to seeing your forge in completion.
Good morning Gary.
Is cutting oil any good as a sealed bearing lubricant?
I couldn't agree with you more. I've been using Window washing fluid for years it works awesome
I was hoping one of you used it so I don't sound like kook. Good evening Jason.
TheTradesmanChannel. I've tried to tell people the same thing you have but they just don't buy into it. It works great and there's no messy oil residue when your done which is really nice when you weld the parts after
I like the idea of using window cleaner to cool metal. It makes sense. I don't care what anyone says. If it works use it.
Thanks you saved my butt! I switched to a Split point bit and Windex to finished a miscalculation on drilling a second hole in a very small stainless steal part. The first hole dulled the original bit and the second became "work hardened" while using motor oil as a coolant. I didn't know the part was stainless until It was almost too late.
Excellent! The old timer who told me about it saved mine as well.
Cool, pun intended. Very simple and good to know. Thank you for sharing the how and why.
Good morning
Thanks for your video. I tried windex and it work reasonably well as a coolant BUT did you not find it created rust even after a reasonable clean up?
Fantastic 🙏🏼👌
i have tried windex on my drill press, sooy to say that it rusted after 2 week under the vise.
Thanks Bud, will get my eldest to road test it. Makes sense watching.
Good evening Mike.
That was nice of you to go to the trouble of responding. Am really enjoying your laconic approach to the task and trying to impart your reasons for the way you do it. I Confess to the Wrangler and Livingfor, but you kinda talk the talk to me. So I'll be here for a season or two, but have to confess after watching an old Q & A today came to the realisation that you are not building a dreamhome for the family, but a future means of spreading your earnings towards the family's collective welfare. I wish you prosperity in that regard. Melbourne, Vic.
Thank you Mike. I am more than happy to have you along for as long as you're willing watch.
You are a very determined guy
there never seems to ever be enough tools
Have to be determined in this world.
Thanks for this!
I hope it helps
Windex also works on your diamond sharpening stones.
This is beginning to sound like My Big Fat Greek Wedding: "Put some Windex on it!" 😂
Ha! That's a new one on me.
Nice very interesting WINDEX LOL !!!! I will use it thanks
With you all the way! Nothing gets cold. All you do is remove heat!
Hello Vince. Basic principle of refrigeration.
And you can never spend too much time in the shop😏😉
Thank you
Morning Jim, looks like a great solution to the drill coolant. Michael
Hello Michael
hello sir, It would be very helpful if you share the link to buy this coolant? Loved your video.
This is just window cleaner, windshield fluid works as well.
I agree with everyone else here, great tip. Thanks for taking the time to share. I am brand new to drilling steel and have a project coming up in a few days involving drilling into hardened steel. So... I'm actually more interested in what type and brand of drill bits you are using. Thanks
These are just bits I picked up at Fastenal, nothing special. I've actually used masonry bits to drill hardened steel on a drill press.
that is a wonderful tip indeed, haven't tried it but will.....sure doesn't work on windows, at least that's what the wife tells me when I'm finished with them. You probably know that windshield fluid works well on windows on the car and the house. Hope the weather holds true for ya Jim. nite, bob
Hello Bob. I met the sober Canning btw.
Sobre???? his mormon wife must have been home when he was in contact with you. :)
Ha! Now that is good stuff.
Hey Jim, Your project looking good. Don't let my OLDER Brother fool ya, he doesn't do Windows's. As a matter of fact my Wife (not Mormon) doesn't do Windows neither. She does make me a homemade solution w/simple ingredients (1 of which is secret) arsenic maybe??? ....that works well. Anyway I guess now I have a reason to buy Windex again. Thanks, take care and watch out for Bob, he's probably lurking around the bend.
Robert Canning She not Mormon!!! Love ❤️ you Brother 🍻
Cool tip with the windex l'll
give it a try
Good morning Mike.
Lol...cool tip...pun intended?
It says in the back of windex bottle that it has a Flash Point of >70c, I’ll test that and tell if a got burned or not.
My metalwork teacher told me ice-cold water is the best lubricant. Any thoughts?
I've never tried it but I will.
Gr8 tip Jim, thanks!
Hello Frankie.
"The only true source of knowledge is experience" ..... and for that. I thank you !
I'm curious whether or not you have ever tried using Marvel Mystery Oil as a cutting fluid ?
I have not but I've used it for a lot of things over the years, it's good stuff.
Hey Jim! Awesome video! Nice tip I'll have to try that! Love your videos! I'll see you on the next one!
Have a good day Donnell.
Wonder how that would do as flood coolant in my bandsaw? Couldn’t afford the cutting lube.. they want $90.00 for a bucket of it !
Works great in my big power hacksaw.
I saw the title of this vid and was thinking with the weather we have been having you were going to use a snow ball and drill threw that as your coolant. LOL Good tip I will surly use that one.
Have you ever used silicone caulk on your drill bits as a Lubricant?
I have not but I'm willing to try.
Dip them in a tube of cheap silicone caulk and you will be surprised. The silicone stays with your bit and work piece better & longer and acts as a coolant & lubricant
@@TheTradesmanChannel
I believe silicon has amonia in it. Amonia is used as an industrial fluid for air conditioning and fluid spray pressure cutting.
Does the winter windshield wiper formula's still have WOOD ALCOHOL / methyl alcohol in them? You don't need to be inhaling those vapors.
Hi Jim or should I say Wilson. Great tip definitely have to try it out. Snowed again. The song birds are all dying. Found one in my front yard. News is pleading with everyone to put out food. Really weird spri g.
Either windex works or you have no feeling left in those fingers, however the fingers function well so it must work.....
Jim I have about 200 - 9/16 holes to drill tomorrow in 1/4 inch mild steel for the parts I make at work I will have to try this. I will let you know how it works out tomorrow night.
Let me know...that is a lot of holes.
I worked great. The bit did warm up but not like it usually does. The spindle was warmer than usual so some of the heat transferred down to the bit as well...over all it was a huge success. Although if the cleaning crew finds out I took their window cleaner the restroom on my end of the building may not get cleaned this week.
I am glad it worked for you. I thank that old pipe fitter every time I use that trick.
thanks for sharing. Can someone point me to the structure of a "heat molecule"?
Will try this out .Remembered grade 9 metalwork class,we had some kinda milky lube to drill with.
I know what you're talking about.
That milky lube is called solubility oil I still use it cutting steel on a horizontal band saw. It comes in a 5 gallon bucket and you mix it with water until it looks like whole milk.
I'll be trying it this week. I have burnt up several drill bits this year and for what? Thanks.
Good luck, it works well for me.
Morning Jim .Well I'll be bugged sidewards I've use window cleaner windex for years for drilling but I had no idea why it works so good now I know thanks you didn't fall off the banana boat did you you know your stuff buddy . Sunny here today and they say it's here till weekend yippee. Take care and slow down a bit you don't want to be loosing the day job just yet I'm sure great vid again cheers matey..
Hey buddy, good morning.
TheTradesmanChannel afternoon here and pretty good playing in my little shop again loving it how’s your day turning out
Like any other day, just plugging away.
I know this is the WAY to drill stainless; high pressure, low speed, keep it cool. We kept roasting bits one day with Rapidtap an I started using some DG brand glass cleaner just for the h&ll of it an it WORKS.
cool i will give it a try our machines are almost all stainless eats up bit quick!
Hello Ben.
hello Jim!
Hi Ben.
not yet!! jk
I'll be right back, gunna grab me some popcorn, the comments will be interesting :P as usual awesome work Jim.
You see the trolls on the saw blade video? Those people are brutal.
Oh man you dissapoint, I was waiting for a "I don't think so Tim"
I don't think so Tim
bahahaha much better :)
I’ve got a machinist pocket book at home and don’t recall it mentioning this. But who’s to say the author ever tried windex. The theory is strong but wonder if or what additives could aid in lubrication without interfering with the evaporative effect of the ammonia. If I recall correctly it called for lard on some metal/s I think aluminum but aluminum already dissipates heat pretty well. I think your onto something especially for those of us looking for a very cost effective alternative. And for those of us who can hand sharpen a bit on a grinder. Which I learned back many years ago when I worked in a machine shop. Not sure my eyes are quite as god as they were back when I was 18. But I used that skill on job sites sharpening with an angle grinder and a cutoff wheel. Guys would break bits and toss them and I’d pick them up and re point them and sharpen them. It surprised the heck out of them. But seemed common knowledge to me. So I think this will be the focus of a video for me to putt out there. On the tangled webs. Lol
Let me know what you think.
just mix 20% soluble oil in it - I've used this mix for 15 years in my horiz bandsaw
hi Jim
rubber liners use window cleaner for cutting rubber, water also works well but there is something in the windex that works better, relevancy for the average person?
try a little window cleaner next time your wad punching thick rubber, works a treat, disclaimer, i take no responsibility for injury to short window cleaners
That is neat, I'll try that.
At ~ 5:00 You talk about a 'clinker breaker'. (Chopper) And then say something about getting the ash to the bottom. Couldn't help myself. Made a qoute: "Git yer ash to da choppah!" ;)
I like your style
Do you have rust issues on your tools using this. I got a nice heavy old drill press i would hate to rust up. Maybe hose it down with some oil after each use
I have had no rust issues but I do wipe things down afterwards.
Morning Jim.... hey, a new show for prime time TV, "Barn Improvement" with "Jim, the tool man....", opps, don't know your last name, wouldn't be "Taylor" would it? Good video. You can buy windshield washer fluid for .99 cents a gallon sometimes, good to know. It can't be any more of a mess than using oil. Here's a time where a second set of hands would be nice to keep an even spray on the drilling. Your channel is going to get so big you'll have to hire an assistant.
I'm too "frugal" to hire an assistant...
I don’t think so Jim!!! Lol
Pee has ammonia in it, would that be a good alternative?
Now you are the first to suggest that one, might be gross but it might work.
I gess grandpa from my big fat greek wedding was right ha ha ha wendex for the win.
Yup. I hate to say it but you're right: Windex with ammonia or without, windshield cleaner, kitchen grease cutter like 409, windshield liquid, etc all work as cutting coolants for steel as well as beer, fortified wines, gin etc. A low Ph coolent seems to be advantage in coolant for drilling steel. So does coolant with an evaporative component. A rich mix of soluable oil in water (10% oil) seems to work best for me especially in deep holes. The detergent while not especially active as a base seems to behave as a base so far as drilling is concerned.
Years ago I had to drill holes for lifting gear in an old boiler at a site where hot work was forbidden. Following a hint dropped by a mentor back when, I wound up using water and baking soda from the boss's refrigerator. Worked great.
Lotta BS ("guy tole me..." and other sea stories) about coolants and what works. Thing is, most work.
Speaking of: recipe for DIY soluable oil
- 1 tablespoon of soy lecethin stirred into one cup of 150F salad oil (any kind. )
- Add oil mix to one gallon of warm water and stir.
It's not only safe but edible. If it was mixed with a gallon of half each vinegar and water you'll have salad dressing. It will go rancid - mix only what you need for a week. Note: Factory soluable oil is NOT EDIBLE.
Have you tried Elmer's Glue?
I've been trying to find a comparison... I hear good things
I have not but now I'll have to look into it.
I have a spray can of cutting oil that I use. am just a home diy'er....what does the windex do that the cutting oil doesent ? like I said, I don't do a lot of metal work....but don't want my drill bits to over heat and dull
bob
Good morning. I ammonia draws more heat as it evaporates than the oil does. It acts as a refrigerant and ammonia is uses in some large scale refrigeration.
Following on with what Jim stated, the molecules are changing phase (solid, liquid, gas). Phase change deals with a huge amount of energy transfer. And the transfer is the same regardless of which direction you are going in the phase change. So when the ammonia changs from a liquid state, to a gas state, "x" amount of energy is needed to make that phase change. The energy is absorbed from the hot drill bit into the now ammonia gas. One of the reasons you don't want to use straight ammonia, ammonia gas can kill you. Think about boiling water, up until 212 degrees, there isn't any steam, enough energy to get hot, but not enough to make a phase change. And water typically won't get above 212 degrees, because at 213 degrees, there is enough energy to make the phase change to gas. When the steam returns to water, it releases that energy in the exact same amount it took to go from liquid to gas. Now if we could only store electricity that way :-)
wow......thank you.......got it
Good evening Bob
What's the best coolant? The one that gets the job done.
Truer words were never spoken, good evening.
Why u use speed 2?
Depends on what I'm doing
@@TheTradesmanChannel well, to drill wholes in metal in speed 2 is ...........and you even teach people how to drill them
All that matters is that the hole gets drilled. In the low setting of the drill if the bit gets caught it usually breaks the bit. In the high setting it will catch and usually not break. Notice also that it's a variable speed drill and I'm usually not going at full speed. I'm really not sure what the issue is.
@@TheTradesmanChannel the issue is that you got it wrong... Or I got it all wrong with the rest of most? pro machinists.... Different ways to skin a cat I guess...
There are always different ways to do things, a guy can learn a lot more with an open mind. I'm obviously not a pro machinist and I sure don't know everything but I try to approach things with humility and an open mind.
Hi Jim,
I laughed hard when you included scientists in your opening remarks. Anyone who has done any kind of scientific research will tell you that when something works you first get down on your knees and thank the powers that be. Then, and only then, if need be you figure out why it works. Otherwise, you move on to the next thing.
You got that right. Good evening.
"Heat molecules" aren't a thing. Heat is a vibration in molecules which causes friction between molecules.
I'm not a scientist, you'll have to forgive me.
@@TheTradesmanChannel - Google is thine friend and research is always golden.