That remains to be seen. Now they are starting to rush us which is cutting testing short. Rushing things doesn't fix everything. Trying to get it as best as we can in such short time. They will get a proper cylinder but not sure about the head since they want to start producing the cylinder asap. Not giving us time to design a head.
The head temp just sky rocketed there lol you guys have all the right stuff to fit the cnc heads on these and it will help them cool better looks great guys
That's going to be awesome brother. I have a version 2 i changed the piston rings and bearings to stihl 52mm 044ms440 big bore chainsaw I took the crank and balanced it changed the bearings to SKF clutch arm bucking bar cheap steal was eating it up changed all that with good steal used there valveolean 2 stroke oil mix for break in then I switched to opte 2 2 stroke synthetic oil mix you all told me to run it in my minaralli put it in there 32:1 I'm in Texas 108 degree day 256 temperature but that's not running her like a mad man that's going between 30 to 40 mph and I weigh around 245 i also made my own window a oval changed the Reed valve to a ozz and a mikuni vm 18 carburetor so far so good can you get them to make a expansion chamber pipe along with the 2 piece cylinder I think it would be better my opinion sir ride safe brother and thanks for all the advice on my minaralli she flys getting ready to build a athina minaralli
That’s AWESOME!! I’ve been in the market for a phantom ever since they came out, but have waited cause of all the issues but once the V4 comes out, I’ll definitely get one.
Alot of people say, just build your own chainsaw top end for cheaper. But the 52mm chainsaw top ends are 1 piece & fan cooled. So if the P85 has better cooling than a chainsaw top end build.....That'll be a good reason to just buy a v4 p85 instead of doing a saw build.
Never tried one but mysebut they seem to have a lot of potential if those few issues where fix correct. Glad to see you guys helping with it. Looking forward to forward to see what you do.
It has proper working transfers. That's why the side of the piston is open on both sides instead of being solid piston. Plus the cylinder will not allow the traditional china case transfers to be used because of how ots casted.
I was just about to order the v3. I'm still thinking about it. Anybody have a suggestion on a reliable 2 stroke $300 or less? I'm also thinking about the Firestorm Max 80/100cc. Anybody tried them?
The phantom 85 engines are sweet but the price is crazy I have two of them sitting ard cuz all the issues with em I can't win.hope yous can get it rite,👍👍
I already did this shit smolik performance gave me a true ms460 two windows hole piston and the piston rings I'm using is ms sthil chainsaw hyway caber piston rings 1.5mm or 1.2mm get on my level dude
@@kjsmolik see the problem is that the original phantom head 85 cylinder head is for a chainsaw out door power equipment not for a bicycle also the engine head can't breathe because of compression ratio and the way the motor is setup
@RaoulDuke224 ok? Your point is what? Everyone knows saws have heat issues. Phantom 85 is china produced saw engine that we fix the heat issue for people and produce a proper cooling head for. I AM SMOLIK PERFORMANCE . No one copying anyone. We just have the solution
That's sweet. I wonder how it will compare to the CDH 110 V2 engine that is being designed/based off the modified version by Build-Break-Fix.
Build break fix used my design lmao
Updated cooling!? Sweet... Hopefully ZTMoto follows your design 100% with the new cast.
This is great news, thank you and good luck guys.
That remains to be seen. Now they are starting to rush us which is cutting testing short. Rushing things doesn't fix everything. Trying to get it as best as we can in such short time. They will get a proper cylinder but not sure about the head since they want to start producing the cylinder asap. Not giving us time to design a head.
As far as box stock we were impressed with its performance but 430 degrees is ridiculous
The head temp just sky rocketed there lol you guys have all the right stuff to fit the cnc heads on these and it will help them cool better looks great guys
It was crazy how fast it went up just on 1 pull. I can see why they fail so often
@@kjsmolik so is the factory going to fix the issues on v4 or are you guys specially outfitting then with better parts
That's going to be awesome brother. I have a version 2 i changed the piston rings and bearings to stihl 52mm 044ms440 big bore chainsaw I took the crank and balanced it changed the bearings to SKF clutch arm bucking bar cheap steal was eating it up changed all that with good steal used there valveolean 2 stroke oil mix for break in then I switched to opte 2 2 stroke synthetic oil mix you all told me to run it in my minaralli put it in there 32:1 I'm in Texas 108 degree day 256 temperature but that's not running her like a mad man that's going between 30 to 40 mph and I weigh around 245 i also made my own window a oval changed the Reed valve to a ozz and a mikuni vm 18 carburetor so far so good can you get them to make a expansion chamber pipe along with the 2 piece cylinder I think it would be better my opinion sir ride safe brother and thanks for all the advice on my minaralli she flys getting ready to build a athina minaralli
That’s AWESOME!! I’ve been in the market for a phantom ever since they came out, but have waited cause of all the issues but once the V4 comes out, I’ll definitely get one.
Totally agree
Alot of people say, just build your own chainsaw top end for cheaper.
But the 52mm chainsaw top ends are 1 piece & fan cooled. So if the P85 has better cooling than a chainsaw top end build.....That'll be a good reason to just buy a v4 p85 instead of doing a saw build.
Never tried one but mysebut they seem to have a lot of potential if those few issues where fix correct. Glad to see you guys helping with it. Looking forward to forward to see what you do.
A combo I'd like to see on the dyno is a Dio reed and oko 21mm I'd like to think I'm running north of 5hp with my setup 😁
Have you tried drawing base gasket on bottom of cylinder and Dremel out the transfers so it has working transfers like a standard cylinder
It has proper working transfers. That's why the side of the piston is open on both sides instead of being solid piston. Plus the cylinder will not allow the traditional china case transfers to be used because of how ots casted.
Have you tried a steel sleeve to see if it cools better bike berry
New v2 100 has a steel sleeve
I was just about to order the v3. I'm still thinking about it. Anybody have a suggestion on a reliable 2 stroke $300 or less? I'm also thinking about the Firestorm Max 80/100cc. Anybody tried them?
Looking good 😊
When do we go about guessing HP on the 2piece head?. Great work love seeing this stuff👌👍
And then how about new exhausts????
That is Crazy temp, but i have a saw waiting to b built, just have to aquire 45mm Crank 👽👍
Not bad for a stock engine. I have 2 China chainsaw engines and they both also run hot is there anything I can do to help cool them down.
I'm going to say 5.2 on the guess hope I win been wanting a phantom but I'm new to the hobby so fare I have 3 bikes with 6 engines lol
The phantom 85 engines are sweet but the price is crazy I have two of them sitting ard cuz all the issues with em I can't win.hope yous can get it rite,👍👍
You da man bro
Are you copying me now huh lmao
I already did this shit smolik performance gave me a true ms460 two windows hole piston and the piston rings I'm using is ms sthil chainsaw hyway caber piston rings 1.5mm or 1.2mm get on my level dude
Wtf are you talking about? Copying what?
@@kjsmolik oh nothing I already knew that these engines had the heat issues with the chain saw cylinder
@@kjsmolik see the problem is that the original phantom head 85 cylinder head is for a chainsaw out door power equipment not for a bicycle also the engine head can't breathe because of compression ratio and the way the motor is setup
@RaoulDuke224 ok? Your point is what? Everyone knows saws have heat issues. Phantom 85 is china produced saw engine that we fix the heat issue for people and produce a proper cooling head for. I AM SMOLIK PERFORMANCE . No one copying anyone. We just have the solution