The most intriguing potential of AI is not uncovering new facts, but finding unseen connections and building cogent hypotheses and theories based on what we already know.
This aspect of learning is like the old reading. Marvellous. I got 'stuck' in certain subjects & didn't progress within those subjects. Once I left School & continued my education whilst working, I eventually reached my goal.
1/2 aNGLES IN GEOMETRY ANDS A TAD BIT AFTER SINE, COSINE, WHICH I REQUIRE IN MY AUDIO WORK I hate this "Jelly Comb" keyboard, A is too close to CapsLock. sry This morning I managed to put into Boolean what I've been saying for years. Consciousness XOR NOTHING = Quantum Fluid/flux Consciousness AND NOTHING = Universe true story
First time hear Eric speaks scientifically. Now I understand why Google was so successful. His understanding the progress in AI is the deepest and the logical I ever heard. Impressed!
Yeah, but I don’t trust it because his politics at the end like pushing the liberal agenda. Gives you an idea in his mind what he wants and that’s what they all want is control. these are egotistical people think they’re better than you and they’re not. They’re just stupid in the way of the world, but brilliant in their respective field.
Brian is great at asking questions, giving so much freedom but with recognition as we go along. Really good at letting the information come out of the other person. Less is more.
My exact same observation. He starts out discerning the insane totally immoral mass National Suicide of the Vietnam War, and ends up being best friends with one of it's main spiritually illiterate morally defective Architects? Regarding "AI", this is an absolutely brilliant conversation right up to the minute on what humanity is facing with AI, but I find Eric Schmidt profoundly suspect. Me, U.S. Army, 1969-1971. I had my eyes wide open through the whole experience and took notes. There is no way this morally defective Nation is going to survive. Those who's economy lives by the sword, will die by the sword. We are all on the road to the FINAL SCENE in "THE GAME" as so clearly stated in the profound 1978 PROPHETIC Allegorical Film "The Deer Hunter" which will most definitely be coming in the looming 2040's. Now Retired, I worked 41 years as a Application Development Software Engineer. I loved every single minute of it. But the Dr. Strangelove factor of Eric Schmidt is just too much for me.
Jeez I thought the same thing when he said that. Like…um…ok, so you are an enabler of one of the worst elitist evil-minded humans in the 20th century. No wonder you can be a billionaire with no moral compunctions… 😕
@@ashleyobrien4937 no, worst thing about that, he never had to face a day in court for his warcrimes ... just like Bush W. ... Then again, not like americans still give a shit about a million dead iraqis from an unjust war the populace was tricked into(most rightleaning folk still think there were WMDs ^^ and that Jan 6th was done by antifa hrhr). I guess the next news cycle, the attention span of amebas while somehow thinking they have the devine right to do whatever the fuck they want aka american exceptionalism plays a role in that.
I have a bone to pick with Mr. Schmidt about his UA-cam algorithm: How come it took this long to recommend this channel to me when this is the only type of thing I watch?? Answer me that Mr. Smarty Pants! In all seriousness, this was awesome. I was hanging on every word.
One of the most interesting discussions I have heard about this technology and it's potential impacts. Eric Schmidt is an extraordinary and perceptive man. Thanks Brian.
This guy scares me. Alarm bells when I hear a close friend of Henry Kissinger, productivity, economic growth etc. .Prof Brian's question about becoming the big man is such an excellent one that I don't think he managed to get an honest answer to
Democracy is a temporary patch to a bigger problem: humans need control because we're savages. I welcome the moment humans will not need any form of control or control will be deemed to something better than us. It's 2023 and we are still at war with each other, we are clearly broken.
hes a top globalist that supports the nwo agenda and he intends to merge with ASI and become a god like the rest of these freaks that show up at the bilderberg group and club of rome
The most sober and factual discussion of what is likely the most melodramatic phase in the history of human progress. Spoiler alert: The drama doesn’t subside.
I'm delighted that you found your purpose. This warms my heart ❤️ and delights my soul. May you continue to delve into this new purpose of yours and find what your purpose means for all of us. Now let us pray 🙏 . Thanks 😊
48:42 Eric: Makes a simplistic statement about how he thinks everyone sees immigration.....while demeaning people that have a simplistic worldview. The hubris of these Tech people is off the charts.
He mentions the Vietnam war and how it led to questioning the morality of our government, which led to the structural philosophy of the Internet, being by the people instead of through government. And then, five minutes later you find out that Kissinger is his best friend?! I’m usually not a big fan of throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but in this case, I think it’s warranted.
Several commentators are thrown by Eric’s friendship with Kissinger. Men of their times both brilliant and both have remarkable strengths and glaring weaknesses. I’m also guilty of having remarkable friends and hope I’m not condemned for their missteps as I have made enough of my own.
You can be friends with people of different opinions and beliefs. Didn't come across that way tbh. Kissinger like Hitler was not all bad. No human is, but he seemingly aligned himself with Kissinger. I do remember Kissinger thinking Mao had the moral high ground when they met and Mao probably thought so too. People are poor judges of themselves. Do No Evil was actually a red flag to delusional infantile minds with no personal insight. Now they are cynical political minds with a facade of moralin their heads to make their elongated lives tolerable @@martywells9961
Also he starts out by saying Chinas way to deal with the internet is bad. Then proceeds to complain that the US and the west isnt implementing the exact same system of mass surveillance
Yes his perception that biology and physics are similar is very telling from individuals who work in the fields of non biology. Medicine is very complex and not at all understood. Human psychology is even more complex. Saying that if everyone was smart in the world it "has to be good" is very dangerous, generalising and completely ignorant on the human experience. AI is scary because of who is making it as well as who is in charge.
Eric Schmidt is the most intelligent, experienced and articulate I have heard on this subject and I listen to it all day everyday as a major role in my livelihood.
Brian this is the Nexus I have been waiting for, I have told Bard (past Ai ) and Copilot what I wish for concerning knowledge, they seem active enough supplying me with awesome material such as this conversation with you and Eric. This Nexus also has taught me enough that I can milk the AIs' for much more than ever possible. My grand kids will be taught from this conversation . Now we the people would benefit from more extended conversations between you two as you both are extremely perceptive, concise and entertaining. What a match in brilliance, my family will grow much more rapidly in understanding and hopefully in wisdom, also I liked your idea about spatial conception, conceiving knowledge and adgility via AR/VR, AWESOME IDEA.
This was both enlightening and frightening all at once. A Really fascinating conversation. But talking about good guys with AI is like talking about good guys with nuclear weapons.
The beautiful thing about our moment in time is anything you didn't understood fully, you can ask chatGPT or your favorite LLM and ask it to explain it to you in a way you can fully understand. 🙂
Even the most intelligent of us fail to escape linear predictions. "We didn't see this coming, but predicting forward from what we have today, XYZ." We assume what we have today is the future without considering broadly. Exponential changes or developments outside of our narrow consideration blind us. Those changes are just as likely as the predictions we make. This is why our ability to predict the future is so incredibly unreliable.
organic chemistry is an extremely visual (picture-based) subject matter. I found using imagery, students were able to comprehend very complicated multi-step reactions.
Tbh... it is a little rough to listen to a scientist actually say "Henry Kissinger was my best friend..." Oh man, that is rough. It is possible that he would be one of the 10 most evil people in American history. I have a hard time understanding how someone who can be so brilliant and objective could form a relationship with a such darkness? I am gonna do my best to move on from that sentence, and hopefully me venting here will be enough so I don't do the typical thing and dismiss someone just because we have different values. There is still a lot to learn here, and I am telling myself "don't allow my own personal politics to interfere with expanding my knowledge of the universe". Ok, vent over. Hopefully I can be more mature and appreciate this for what it is.
Absolutely right, someone on Radio4 said anyone visiting Cambodia would naturally want to stamp on Kissengers face repeatedly. That's pretty tough talk for radio4 right there, but very well deserved. Henry Kissinger has a life outside his own evil, which is interesting. I suspect that these very intelligent, imaginative people are just unable to process things that are easy for the rest of us.
@@jamesdonaghy9143 Anthony Bourdain said, "Once you've been to Cambodia, you'll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands."
@retrotek664 I agree with the sentiment, everyone needs a boost. You talk dirty about Kissinger and you hurt a lot of people. But there is a story needs to be told also, and when he's mentioned, then the hurt needs mentioned too. He did more damage than any of the millions of people he hurt. The kids these days know how to use vietcon techniques in the wild, but they've no idea who Kissinger was and the Kimer Rouge and Paul Pot. I guess it's hard to boost the guy when he's like in a category of one, the contemporary megalomaniac? Does that cover it? How can I boost this guy and not sound like an apath?
You can allow yourself to completely dismiss Kissinger, a horrible monster that directly caused the mass murder of hundreds of thousands of people as if they were mere pieces on a chessboard. But did he ever have to directly witness any one human being violently killed as the direct result of his policies? Well of course not, that might have affected his peace of mind while relaxing in his business suit.
This has me thinking. Significant changes to our society will happen at a faster pace. I look forward to it, but keeping up with it may be challenging.
As someone who has spoken on this concept in the public domain for over 30 years, I can not explain how amazed I am at two professionals speaking so much about something they both obviously know zero about (and obviously just started taking seriously just in time for youtube views). This was like listening to my tech-phobic elderly mother explaining how to operate Linux. This was painfully outdated information that was never actual or usable.
I think the point is to interact with the masses for views. Bezos said only maybe 10-20 truly know how this stuff works. But we can get a broad idea. Do you think Quantum Computing will take hold.
I teach in adult education in outreach so this means to those who didn’t get their qualifications at school in the standard way and are returning to learning. But returning to learning for many different reasons and for different outcomes. Learning is more than knowledge acquisition it holds instead it many self identify signifiers which are not necessarily known to the learner. They are learning about how they learn why they learn as much as about the content too. How deep a dive they want to go into their individual learning pathways is up to them but as educationalists in the work I do we do have to know the differences in an individual’s approach to learning because it has been disaffected somewhere along the line through economic disadvantage or not having their learning style met in the standard classroom. For this reason we réfère to education as a journey and a pathway because the destination is navigated and it works best when the process is collaborative as in the learner is aware of how they learn best and what their challenges are to ensure they see challenge as objective as a tool not a signifier of self identify that can create low emotional self value. Having said all that the emergence I am seeing because I teach English to refugees is the way translations can be a fast way to communicate without holding all the knowledge. So my feeling is AI will offer voice strips in the future and when you speak out loud the voice strips will translate your voice into any language. This exists on phones but I think there will be more bio AI apps like a voice strip like a patch and navigation systems that talk to you more like a real person would that can see all the objects and elements in real time. So yes I think AI might help with how someone learns but I think there will be more apps that will say we can replace you not knowing with apps that make it look like you know to facilitate communication in the moment. Like language learning. People will still need to know for themselves but the tools to learn will be at some point many stages of efficiency that some of the tools will actually do the job themselves.
I like Brian Greene, I enjoy listening to him explaining things in his inimitably coherent and easy to follow way. He does a great job of brining cutting edge science to laymen like me.
i work as developer in a very complex software architecture and i can confirm that gpt-4 accelerates me immensely. not for the casual programming stuff but for everytime i struggle with a framework, i have a weird bug etc. basically the things that consume the most time. just yesterday i was checking whats wrong with an url and it found that the query uses 2 question marks instead of one, i simply didn't see that. in the future i would like it to have more context of what i'm working on and be quite a bit smarter, the leverage is just beginning
What I find endlessly fascinating is that my great grandfather was born when there was no electricity. There was no internal combustion engine nor had man flown. He passed away just after the Apollo mission to the moon launched. I knew him as a young child, and since then, we are now talking about quantum computers, AI and man going to Mars... talk about rapid technology development.
Science isn't based primarily on "proof" like mathematics, but on evidence, prediction, and observations that test the prediction, and so add to the evidence. Nature, not mathematics or people, has the final word about the best current world model.
In a sense I feel like you could say that experimentational results or "evidence" as you're referring to it there is effectively proof by demonstration. I guess the funny part is: you don't even really need to understand or know what you are proving. The math does itself, you just gotta look at the results and then try to figure out what the math was before it did what it did. Of course nature has the final word on being the best model for... Itself. But I don't really understand your approach here to downplaying mathematics in terms of it's ability to describe nature. It is eerily effective at describing it. To the point where you get genuinely amazed by it over and over again the deeper you go into studying these things. Hell, Dirac (iirc) discovered anti-matter by correctly interpreting that a square root solution must be positive AND negative. The correct mathematical notation of a square root is the symbol with a + - symbol infront of it. Since two negatives times each other equal a positive. So he discovered anti-matter, before the experimentational discovery of anti-matter (as in, where they understood what it was), without even really knowing what it was except for expecting an opposite charge. In a sense, the mathematics he was doing was more accurate than he intended. It was *better* at describing reality than anyone expected in that specific case. It showed the existence of anti-matter before we discovered the existence of anti-matter. And all because of a rather abstract and generally not very important mathematical fact about square root operations. LOL. So I'm sorry but I genuinely think you are underestimating mathematics. Particularly, although this is personal opinion, I think you're extremely mistaken about mathematics in the sense that we're the ones making it up. We're making up the symbols, we're making up some axioms and trying others just in case, and so on. Our math isn't perfect either, not even close. There are some problems we simply don't have the tools for. (3n+1), Riemann, ... But see that's the thing though. Nature's mathematics, so a theory of everything, IS PERFECT. It cannot be anything but perfectly mathematical. If there are any faults in mathematics, then it lies within OUR interpretation of it. Because the right answers are there to find. The problem is we need the correct tools. And it's very easy to use a wrong tool.
(Terrific explanation, thanks btw) ..So would you say -- and this is only "coincidentally" related to your example -- that for example the discovery of the possibility of the square root of negative (-) numbers and how it has given us a framework for real-world application in electricity, engineering, fractals, etc, could be an interpretation of math/nature that is eerie to us humans because it's true nature may be potentially beyond the scope of human interpretation even though we can still leverage it in practical ways? Just thinking out loud, not trying to get off topic, but that reminds me of hologram universe theories. :)
As someone who does mathematics as a hobby (although kinda passionately so), my personal opinion is that there is absolutely something "eerie" or "freaky" about mathematics. Or at least certain concepts within it that reveal something. Like for example 1/3 = 0.333... 2/3 = 0.666... 3/3 = 0.999... = 1. Like this is the most simple example I can think of and I often bring it up... If you are thinking about this deeply and you don't find it freaky, I don't think you understand it. Maybe I don't either, but I must've gone deep enough to feel the freaky. Hahah. I love this one because it's kinda like a limit in math without being an actual limit. An infinitesimally small number so close to zero that it equals zero. Or an infinitesimally-close-to-1-number, which is so close to 1 that it equals it. You can surely claim more advanced knowledge, I'll concede it. You can go into depth and explain this all you want. But man, isn't this freaky? Something freaky going on there. And this isn't even remotely chaos theory or all that stuff. This is just division and multiplication of fractions, and already we can run into things we don't *really* understand (I think). Well, as far as I know, mathematics is full of that.
I doubt Einstein would have said, a person like Kissinger, should be resurrected in any form. How many lives, stolen? Intelligence, consciousness, conscience. Good or evil?
Thanks for this conversation. It illustrates how AI is accelerating the acceleration of science and technological acceleration. I think the technological singularity is coming a whole lot faster than even the most optimistic experts predict. Thanks for posting.
it's reassuring to hear so much positivity around AI, most of what is being said on youtube is always tinted with a bit of doom and gloom, but mr schmidt here reminds us of why we wanted AI in the first place, to augment what humans are already doing.
I was a fantastic concept artist. 15 years of self teaching and immense struggle and determination. I had worked on big projects and was finally getting the opportunity to develop my own movie idea. AI image generators suddenly appeared and every studio I was connected with dropped me overnight. My own project was cancelled. My career and life passion was over. Three months later my hair fell out all over my body and what was left turned white. Stress related alopecia. The shock and disappointment was devastating. I never heard from those studios or got any new work from anyone else. AI is destroying creativity and human purpose. It’s all designed to replace us, and make humans obsolete. Not to mention all the data it scrapes, including my own entire portfolio. These two have no concern for anyone but themselves.
You are the one only thinking about yourself. Everything you wrote was about you. I do feel bad for you of course, but you remind me of horse coach riders , when automobiles were invented. " These cars took my job*. Good luck to you, I hope it all works out.
this is like therapy for me. just two men having a humble, calm, logcial discussion. lets me ignore my social environment for a moment. wish all people around me were like that i would be so much more motivated and productive. and interacting xd.
Thank you for this enriching and profound discussion. The term 'polymath' resonates deeply with me-it represents an ideal of intellectual versatility and curiosity that seems increasingly essential in today’s interconnected world. Your series brilliantly captures the spirit of this term through engaging with some of the most visionary thinkers in AI and Quantum Computing. Each conversation, especially this one with Eric Schmidt, offers not just a snapshot of current innovations but a window into the impactful possibilities of the future. It's truly inspiring to see such a multifaceted approach to understanding where we stand today and where we might head tomorrow. Thank you for broadening our horizons and continuing to inspire with every episode.
The key points he admitted is that he is " the man" now and that his best friend was Kissinger. I am not so ready to embrace a man like this without considering the dichotomy that was Kissinger. Great conversation but let us not blindly adore without our critical thinking employed.
I was out at “The U.S. would be like Communist China if not myself and others.” That’s a staggering amount of self-aggrandizement. The U.S. has many systems that have kept it on the rails that don’t rely on a handful of self-interested tech entrepreneurs. They created some very serious societal problems along with the positive contributions they made.
The education part at 1:07 to 1:13 is quite interesting here. Feedback loops that incrementally adjust to a students learning capabilities, primarily using our dominant visual cortex.
as an "to be" teacher (still at the end of my bachelor), i was recently wondering if its still worth finishing my studies with how fast jobs are replaced and i had the same idea about it with it being individualized etc. even maybe an AI-classroom in VR format etc. but i think ploitics and people (parents) will be very slow to adapt (10+ years) even once the tech is there (And ripe). im not opposed to it at all though, will be great. just like wikipedia but SO MUCH MORE.
The idea of AI as an institution with agency raises interesting questions from a Hegelian perspective. In Hegel's philosophy, institutions are not mere instruments but embodiments of the collective will and rationality of a community. They have a certain degree of autonomy and play an active role in shaping the ethical life of individuals and society. Applying this view to AI suggests a more complex and dynamic relationship between technology and human agency. If AI systems are seen as institutions, they can be understood as embodiments of a certain kind of rationality or "objective spirit" (objektiver Geist). Just as the state, in Hegel's view, represents the actualization of reason in the political sphere, AI could be seen as the actualization of reason in the technological sphere. This implies that AI is not just a tool created by humans but a manifestation of a larger rational process that shapes human thought and action. The agency of AI as an institution suggests a dialectical relationship with human agency. Just as individuals are shaped by the institutions they participate in, AI systems are shaped by the human values, biases, and interests that go into their design and deployment. At the same time, AI shapes human behavior and decision-making through its algorithmic processes and outputs. This mutual shaping can be seen as a dialectical process of co-evolution, where human and artificial agencies are both transformed through their interaction. As an institution with agency, AI can be seen as imposing certain objective constraints on human behavior and decision-making. Just as the laws and norms of a state limit individual freedom while also enabling social coordination and cooperation, AI systems can constrain human agency through their algorithmic rules and parameters. However, these constraints can also be enabling conditions for new forms of freedom and creativity, such as the ability to process vast amounts of data or generate novel insights and solutions. If AI has institutional agency, it also has an ethical dimension. AI systems are not neutral tools but embody certain values, norms, and biases that shape their impact on society. As such, they can be seen as mediating the ethical life of individuals and communities. This raises important questions about the transparency, accountability, and legitimacy of AI as an ethical mediator. It suggests the need for democratic oversight and participation in the design and governance of AI systems to ensure they align with the values and interests of the community. Viewing AI as an institution with agency challenges the instrumental view of technology as a mere tool for human purposes. It suggests that AI has a certain autonomy and trajectory that cannot be fully controlled by human intentions. This calls for a more reflexive and dialectical approach to the development and deployment of AI, one that recognizes its agency and seeks to shape it in ways that enhance rather than undermine human freedom and ethical life. A Hegelian perspective on AI as an institution with agency highlights the complex and dynamic relationship between technology and human autonomy. It suggests that AI is not just an instrument but an embodiment of a larger rational process that shapes and is shaped by human thought and action. Navigating this dialectical relationship requires a critical and participatory approach to the design and governance of AI systems, one that recognizes their ethical and political dimensions and seeks to align them with the values and interests of the community.
Dr. Green I’m not a physicist, but I’m mildly shocked that someone would leave a comment on your presentation here that is profusely, criticizing, and complaining that there’s no good content here is that something that you as a brilliant physicist has always had to deal with people criticizing with such humongous God complexes maybe this guy needs to goyou know watch some Mickey Mouse cartoons or something we love your work. We appreciate you and we love you only came across your website within the last six months and I find you a great teacher, thank you for putting the cookies in palace that my brain can get it. !You are dead on it. Thank you for all this informative stuff. We are so glad you were born❤
Brian, please do one of these interview-talks with Scott Arronson. Seems you are of late interviewing people with deep pockets, especially when it comes to tech-oriented topics. The quantum computing conversation hype tendency needs to be constantly reined in by the actual science. We need to be constantly reminded that engineering isn't science, that subjective motives bring the very noise that makes science so necessary (and effective). To my mind, computation is limited in a hard way by basic causality, by the cost of structure, or more specifically, the cost of changing structure (one to zero, zero to one). This cost is absolute. Information demands latency of this structure. Structure itself only makes sense in any computational domain, to the extent that structure is defined as latency. So… if a dynamics that produces quantum entanglement and superposition, can only do so outside of structural latency, well something needs to be accounted for regarding the cost of translation from informational structure to the unstructured (latency-free) world of quantum dynamics and then back out to informational structure. Susskind has struggled towards this notion in his work to translate between general relativity and quantum dynamics. To wit, this is not a computational problem, this is a basic physics problem. And, importantly, we've seen a new scientific realm taken to absurd fringes before. Alchemy, gases as ethers, electricity as progenitor of life, rockets and science fiction, robots as slaves, and now, computers as gateway to rapturous access to immortality and omnipotence). Time for some reality. Tech titans like Schmidt are people who have experienced a long string of fortunate events. They can't help but to be wearing deeply tinted rose-colored glasses, and can't help but be ridiculously optimistic, at a level mimicking extreme narcism. They re also likely to be very very good at charm and rhetorical manipulation. If this is really a science-oriented, science-driven group, let’s get back to the core of science, its demand that we self-identify all of the sources of subjective bias and noise that we bring, and to go about the methodological filtering of that noise so that we might better see beyond what we might want or fear to be, to what actually is. Unless we do, Quantum Computing and AI are bound to become the "Singularity", the "Cold Fusion", of the 2020s.
Henry Kissinger's expertise was diplomacy. He won the Nobel Peace prize for his central role in stopping the Vietnam war. Nothing to do with his work on AI with Eric Schmidt.
Eric suggested a law that would require social media companies to verify the identity of thier customers? I'm sure that these tech firms would never, ever "colude" with government agencies or misuse this information. It's not like free speech is written into our constitution.
If you think that you haven't given the government enough data to figure out who you are without direct help from companies then you may want to read back over the Patriot act as well as the digital millennium copyright act.
Thank you so much for sharing this. This is the most articulate explanation of how AI will change our world I have found. I am so grateful for Dr. Greene and his work and I am optimistic about the future of AI especially in the realm of education and medicine.
Incredible conversation listening to a person who has totally sold out, claimed he was once fighting 'the man' yet who is a deeply insidious control freak with best friends like Henry Kissinger. The only value this guy worships is profit and clout.
One of the most interesting episodes of World Science Festival, ever.
Mind-Blowing!
The most intriguing potential of AI is not uncovering new facts, but finding unseen connections and building cogent hypotheses and theories based on what we already know.
Nailed it! We already have a nearly incomprehensible amount of data in dozens of domains that is just waiting to be mined for connections.
or to be more precise, being able to see emergent properties. Or create emergent properties that decentralized intelligence might bring out
This aspect of learning is like the old reading. Marvellous. I got 'stuck' in certain subjects & didn't progress within those subjects. Once I left School & continued my education whilst working, I eventually reached my goal.
So glad to hear that you reached your goal. 💪 ❤️ 🌎 Awesome. I pray that you reach your next big goal too. 🙏 Thanks 😊
1/2 aNGLES IN GEOMETRY ANDS A TAD BIT AFTER SINE, COSINE, WHICH I REQUIRE IN MY AUDIO WORK I hate this "Jelly Comb" keyboard, A is too close to CapsLock. sry
This morning I managed to put into Boolean what I've been saying for years.
Consciousness XOR NOTHING = Quantum Fluid/flux
Consciousness AND NOTHING = Universe
true story
First time hear Eric speaks scientifically. Now I understand why Google was so successful. His understanding the progress in AI is the deepest and the logical I ever heard. Impressed!
Thank God we know this wasn't written by AI.
Yes but he’s an idiot when it comes to politics. He’s part of that globalist group that want one world government. Listen to him. He gives it away
the is the artificial sentence i ever heard.
so the logical!
Yeah, but I don’t trust it because his politics at the end like pushing the liberal agenda. Gives you an idea in his mind what he wants and that’s what they all want is control. these are egotistical people think they’re better than you and they’re not. They’re just stupid in the way of the world, but brilliant in their respective field.
This is about 7x more interesting than I expected
Agreed
Im here at an average of 9 atm.
@@AIroboticOverlord fucking facts
It grabbed me and I watched to the end
I was like , ok … I’m watching this
Evil is always interesting.
Eric Schmidt is a Great Communicator! You know Eric is wicked smart when he has Brian saying "scary" multiple times.
This is one of your best interviews Brian! You did a remarkable job eliciting incredible insights from your guest. Thank you 🙏
Brian is great at asking questions, giving so much freedom but with recognition as we go along. Really good at letting the information come out of the other person. Less is more.
Eric went from fighting the man to being best friends with Henry Kissinger. What a transformation.
is that old walking tumor still alive ?
My exact same observation. He starts out discerning the insane totally immoral mass National Suicide of the Vietnam War, and ends up being best friends with one of it's main spiritually illiterate morally defective Architects? Regarding "AI", this is an absolutely brilliant conversation right up to the minute on what humanity is facing with AI, but I find Eric Schmidt profoundly suspect. Me, U.S. Army, 1969-1971. I had my eyes wide open through the whole experience and took notes. There is no way this morally defective Nation is going to survive. Those who's economy lives by the sword, will die by the sword. We are all on the road to the FINAL SCENE in "THE GAME" as so clearly stated in the profound 1978 PROPHETIC Allegorical Film "The Deer Hunter" which will most definitely be coming in the looming 2040's. Now Retired, I worked 41 years as a Application Development Software Engineer. I loved every single minute of it. But the Dr. Strangelove factor of Eric Schmidt is just too much for me.
Jeez I thought the same thing when he said that. Like…um…ok, so you are an enabler of one of the worst elitist evil-minded humans in the 20th century. No wonder you can be a billionaire with no moral compunctions… 😕
@@ashleyobrien4937 no, worst thing about that, he never had to face a day in court for his warcrimes ... just like Bush W. ... Then again, not like americans still give a shit about a million dead iraqis from an unjust war the populace was tricked into(most rightleaning folk still think there were WMDs ^^ and that Jan 6th was done by antifa hrhr). I guess the next news cycle, the attention span of amebas while somehow thinking they have the devine right to do whatever the fuck they want aka american exceptionalism plays a role in that.
Schmidt was 13 in 1968, he wasn't fighting anyone, except maybe kids in the school yard at recess.
I have a bone to pick with Mr. Schmidt about his UA-cam algorithm: How come it took this long to recommend this channel to me when this is the only type of thing I watch?? Answer me that Mr. Smarty Pants! In all seriousness, this was awesome. I was hanging on every word.
One of the most phenomenal discussions on AI to date.
Eric is oddly very, very proud of having been friends with Henry Kissinger. A very sharp and clever mind with a glaring blind spot!
Precisely! See my above post.
Not to mention such bonehead views on immigration
I am getting chills as I listen to Mr ES
Maybe Eric knows shit that made him appreciate Henry…both of them are (were) the GOAT 🐐 s
@@DavidBorda-oz9mu Turn off your beloved CNN. HK was as evil as evil is.
No matter the subject, Brian Green always seems to have an immediate and surprising grasp on whatever his guest experts say. So impressive.
One of the most interesting discussions I have heard about this technology and it's potential impacts. Eric Schmidt is an extraordinary and perceptive man. Thanks Brian.
This guy scares me. Alarm bells when I hear a close friend of Henry Kissinger, productivity, economic growth etc. .Prof Brian's question about becoming the big man is such an excellent one that I don't think he managed to get an honest answer to
Very scary indeed.
whats the timestamp for this part? I just finished and must have missed it.
Yeah, it very cringey to hear, like he's dikriding kissinger who is known kill many people in multiple wars and genocides
Democracy is a temporary patch to a bigger problem: humans need control because we're savages. I welcome the moment humans will not need any form of control or control will be deemed to something better than us. It's 2023 and we are still at war with each other, we are clearly broken.
hes a top globalist that supports the nwo agenda and he intends to merge with ASI and become a god like the rest of these freaks that show up at the bilderberg group and club of rome
"Shut the damn thing down"
I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave
The most sober and factual discussion
of what is likely the most melodramatic phase
in the history of human progress.
Spoiler alert: The drama doesn’t subside.
Oh for sure
What happens when we simultaneously introduce an alpha intelligence/species and shatter the majority of non labor jobs?
@@RetireandGo! I hope not...
I got here by accident, i stayed on purpose...
I like Brian but he needs to learn an interview format. Let your guest answer your question especially when they ask for the opportunity.
I could not agree more.
I'm delighted that you found your purpose. This warms my heart ❤️ and delights my soul. May you continue to delve into this new purpose of yours and find what your purpose means for all of us. Now let us pray 🙏 . Thanks 😊
I was exactly the opposite
Says the AI
48:42 Eric: Makes a simplistic statement about how he thinks everyone sees immigration.....while demeaning people that have a simplistic worldview.
The hubris of these Tech people is off the charts.
He mentions the Vietnam war and how it led to questioning the morality of our government, which led to the structural philosophy of the Internet, being by the people instead of through government. And then, five minutes later you find out that Kissinger is his best friend?! I’m usually not a big fan of throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but in this case, I think it’s warranted.
Several commentators are thrown by Eric’s friendship with Kissinger. Men of their times both brilliant and both have remarkable strengths and glaring weaknesses. I’m also guilty of having remarkable friends and hope I’m not condemned for their missteps as I have made enough of my own.
@@martywells9961 Point acknowledged but do YOU have a body count in the millions to show for your oopsies?
You can be friends with people of different opinions and beliefs. Didn't come across that way tbh. Kissinger like Hitler was not all bad. No human is, but he seemingly aligned himself with Kissinger. I do remember Kissinger thinking Mao had the moral high ground when they met and Mao probably thought so too. People are poor judges of themselves. Do No Evil was actually a red flag to delusional infantile minds with no personal insight. Now they are cynical political minds with a facade of moralin their heads to make their elongated lives tolerable @@martywells9961
@@martywells9961 Calling what horrors Kissinger is responsible for as mere "missteps" is itself just obscene. My God, seriously?
Exactly my thoughts. I think it's to a certain degree a age/generational issue - I trust in the younger generations.
There is an underlying very simplistic view of good and bad in many parts of this discussion.
Also he starts out by saying Chinas way to deal with the internet is bad. Then proceeds to complain that the US and the west isnt implementing the exact same system of mass surveillance
Big government is technologically illiterate, so we need big corporations to save us from ourselves, Putler, Xi Jinping and their evil minions.
Yes his perception that biology and physics are similar is very telling from individuals who work in the fields of non biology. Medicine is very complex and not at all understood. Human psychology is even more complex. Saying that if everyone was smart in the world it "has to be good" is very dangerous, generalising and completely ignorant on the human experience. AI is scary because of who is making it as well as who is in charge.
@@rajjabbal Well said mate.
Eric Schmidt is the most intelligent, experienced and articulate I have heard on this subject and I listen to it all day everyday as a major role in my livelihood.
Great conversation! 🔭🚀🛰️🪐
Brian this is the Nexus I have been waiting for, I have told Bard (past Ai ) and Copilot what I wish for concerning knowledge, they seem active enough supplying me with awesome material such as this conversation with you and Eric. This Nexus also has taught me enough that I can milk the AIs' for much more than ever possible. My grand kids will be taught from this conversation . Now we the people would benefit from more extended conversations between you two as you both are extremely perceptive, concise and entertaining. What a match in brilliance, my family will grow much more rapidly in understanding and hopefully in wisdom, also I liked your idea about spatial conception, conceiving knowledge and adgility via AR/VR, AWESOME IDEA.
Google Ceo with Henry Kissinger as a best friend? Sounds terrible. I have to respect Brian's hosting skills/maturity for this one.
"Democracy is when I get my way"
That’s exactly the case
@@dixztubeyeah my word...
This was both enlightening and frightening all at once. A Really fascinating conversation. But talking about good guys with AI is like talking about good guys with nuclear weapons.
Really incredible conversation... so much knowledge, so much to think about. Thanks for putting it together Brian!
The last thing we want is a virtual Kissinger!
We had to wait for decades until that PoS kicked the bucket
Henry Kissinger was his friend. Red flag.
RED FLAG THE SIZE OF MARS! Unfortunately the future looks bloody if they reproduce his Ai doppelganger.
What's the issue?
No comprehension of Kissinger. Big red flag.
Pls let Google moderate "truth" on the internet! What could go wrong?
Very enlightening talk but I do find Eric's dikriding of kissinger to be a bit deplorable
It’s worrisome that we’re heading to this hyper tech maturity and much of our society has yet to socially mature beyond f-king Kissinger
This guy was at Princeton 50 years ago? That is some very effective anti-aging treatment.
No he just was to nerdy and boring for having liquer booze drugs and having a good time once and a while.
@@AIroboticOverlordAnd, is that bad? …
look at his girlfriends and u see the treatment !
he drinks baby tears
@@michen25yes
I am 36 mins in and loving this, thinking I understand what they are saying in general and wishing I was 10% as smart as Schmidt and Greene.....
The beautiful thing about our moment in time is anything you didn't understood fully, you can ask chatGPT or your favorite LLM and ask it to explain it to you in a way you can fully understand. 🙂
Don’t sell yourself short.
Amazing conversation, thanks for sharing.
Even the most intelligent of us fail to escape linear predictions. "We didn't see this coming, but predicting forward from what we have today, XYZ." We assume what we have today is the future without considering broadly.
Exponential changes or developments outside of our narrow consideration blind us. Those changes are just as likely as the predictions we make.
This is why our ability to predict the future is so incredibly unreliable.
organic chemistry is an extremely visual (picture-based) subject matter. I found using imagery, students were able to comprehend very complicated multi-step reactions.
much like reading a book, it is a thought provoking conversation, thank you both!
Tbh... it is a little rough to listen to a scientist actually say "Henry Kissinger was my best friend..." Oh man, that is rough. It is possible that he would be one of the 10 most evil people in American history. I have a hard time understanding how someone who can be so brilliant and objective could form a relationship with a such darkness? I am gonna do my best to move on from that sentence, and hopefully me venting here will be enough so I don't do the typical thing and dismiss someone just because we have different values. There is still a lot to learn here, and I am telling myself "don't allow my own personal politics to interfere with expanding my knowledge of the universe". Ok, vent over. Hopefully I can be more mature and appreciate this for what it is.
Absolutely right, someone on Radio4 said anyone visiting Cambodia would naturally want to stamp on Kissengers face repeatedly. That's pretty tough talk for radio4 right there, but very well deserved. Henry Kissinger has a life outside his own evil, which is interesting. I suspect that these very intelligent, imaginative people are just unable to process things that are easy for the rest of us.
@@jamesdonaghy9143 Anthony Bourdain said, "Once you've been to Cambodia, you'll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands."
Hey, even the worst people need a best buddy.
@retrotek664 I agree with the sentiment, everyone needs a boost. You talk dirty about Kissinger and you hurt a lot of people. But there is a story needs to be told also, and when he's mentioned, then the hurt needs mentioned too. He did more damage than any of the millions of people he hurt. The kids these days know how to use vietcon techniques in the wild, but they've no idea who Kissinger was and the Kimer Rouge and Paul Pot.
I guess it's hard to boost the guy when he's like in a category of one, the contemporary megalomaniac? Does that cover it? How can I boost this guy and not sound like an apath?
You can allow yourself to completely dismiss Kissinger, a horrible monster that directly caused the mass murder of hundreds of thousands of people as if they were mere pieces on a chessboard. But did he ever have to directly witness any one human being violently killed as the direct result of his policies? Well of course not, that might have affected his peace of mind while relaxing in his business suit.
This has me thinking. Significant changes to our society will happen at a faster pace. I look forward to it, but keeping up with it may be challenging.
As someone who has spoken on this concept in the public domain for over 30 years, I can not explain how amazed I am at two professionals speaking so much about something they both obviously know zero about (and obviously just started taking seriously just in time for youtube views). This was like listening to my tech-phobic elderly mother explaining how to operate Linux. This was painfully outdated information that was never actual or usable.
I think the point is to interact with the masses for views. Bezos said only maybe 10-20 truly know how this stuff works. But we can get a broad idea. Do you think Quantum Computing will take hold.
@@sirus312 Quantum Computing will indeed change what it means to be human, very soon.
Slow clap for you
I teach in adult education in outreach so this means to those who didn’t get their qualifications at school in the standard way and are returning to learning. But returning to learning for many different reasons and for different outcomes. Learning is more than knowledge acquisition it holds instead it many self identify signifiers which are not necessarily known to the learner. They are learning about how they learn why they learn as much as about the content too. How deep a dive they want to go into their individual learning pathways is up to them but as educationalists in the work I do we do have to know the differences in an individual’s approach to learning because it has been disaffected somewhere along the line through economic disadvantage or not having their learning style met in the standard classroom.
For this reason we réfère to education as a journey and a pathway because the destination is navigated and it works best when the process is collaborative as in the learner is aware of how they learn best and what their challenges are to ensure they see challenge as objective as a tool not a signifier of self identify that can create low emotional self value.
Having said all that the emergence I am seeing because I teach English to refugees is the way translations can be a fast way to communicate without holding all the knowledge.
So my feeling is AI will offer voice strips in the future and when you speak out loud the voice strips will translate your voice into any language. This exists on phones but I think there will be more bio AI apps like a voice strip like a patch and navigation systems that talk to you more like a real person would that can see all the objects and elements in real time. So yes I think AI might help with how someone learns but I think there will be more apps that will say we can replace you not knowing with apps that make it look like you know to facilitate communication in the moment.
Like language learning.
People will still need to know for themselves but the tools to learn will be at some point many stages of efficiency that some of the tools will actually do the job themselves.
Brilliant conversation. Mr. Schmidt is clearly a dreamer and I will want to study his life and trials to learn his ways.
I like Brian Greene, I enjoy listening to him explaining things in his inimitably coherent and easy to follow way. He does a great job of brining cutting edge science to laymen like me.
i work as developer in a very complex software architecture and i can confirm that gpt-4 accelerates me immensely. not for the casual programming stuff but for everytime i struggle with a framework, i have a weird bug etc. basically the things that consume the most time. just yesterday i was checking whats wrong with an url and it found that the query uses 2 question marks instead of one, i simply didn't see that. in the future i would like it to have more context of what i'm working on and be quite a bit smarter, the leverage is just beginning
Same. I still use SO though as well
I have consistently underestimated Eric from the time he purchased UA-cam for $1.65B back in 2006 to his eloquent exposition here. Bravo!
What I find endlessly fascinating is that my great grandfather was born when there was no electricity. There was no internal combustion engine nor had man flown. He passed away just after the Apollo mission to the moon launched. I knew him as a young child, and since then, we are now talking about quantum computers, AI and man going to Mars... talk about rapid technology development.
Science isn't based primarily on "proof" like mathematics, but on evidence, prediction, and observations that test the prediction, and so add to the evidence. Nature, not mathematics or people, has the final word about the best current world model.
In a sense I feel like you could say that experimentational results or "evidence" as you're referring to it there is effectively proof by demonstration.
I guess the funny part is: you don't even really need to understand or know what you are proving.
The math does itself, you just gotta look at the results and then try to figure out what the math was before it did what it did.
Of course nature has the final word on being the best model for... Itself.
But I don't really understand your approach here to downplaying mathematics in terms of it's ability to describe nature.
It is eerily effective at describing it.
To the point where you get genuinely amazed by it over and over again the deeper you go into studying these things.
Hell, Dirac (iirc) discovered anti-matter by correctly interpreting that a square root solution must be positive AND negative.
The correct mathematical notation of a square root is the symbol with a + - symbol infront of it.
Since two negatives times each other equal a positive.
So he discovered anti-matter, before the experimentational discovery of anti-matter (as in, where they understood what it was), without even really knowing what it was except for expecting an opposite charge.
In a sense, the mathematics he was doing was more accurate than he intended.
It was *better* at describing reality than anyone expected in that specific case.
It showed the existence of anti-matter before we discovered the existence of anti-matter.
And all because of a rather abstract and generally not very important mathematical fact about square root operations. LOL.
So I'm sorry but I genuinely think you are underestimating mathematics.
Particularly, although this is personal opinion, I think you're extremely mistaken about mathematics in the sense that we're the ones making it up.
We're making up the symbols, we're making up some axioms and trying others just in case, and so on.
Our math isn't perfect either, not even close. There are some problems we simply don't have the tools for. (3n+1), Riemann, ...
But see that's the thing though. Nature's mathematics, so a theory of everything, IS PERFECT.
It cannot be anything but perfectly mathematical.
If there are any faults in mathematics, then it lies within OUR interpretation of it.
Because the right answers are there to find. The problem is we need the correct tools. And it's very easy to use a wrong tool.
(Terrific explanation, thanks btw)
..So would you say -- and this is only "coincidentally" related to your example -- that for example the discovery of the possibility of the square root of negative (-) numbers and how it has given us a framework for real-world application in electricity, engineering, fractals, etc, could be an interpretation of math/nature that is eerie to us humans because it's true nature may be potentially beyond the scope of human interpretation even though we can still leverage it in practical ways?
Just thinking out loud, not trying to get off topic, but that reminds me of hologram universe theories. :)
As someone who does mathematics as a hobby (although kinda passionately so), my personal opinion is that there is absolutely something "eerie" or "freaky" about mathematics. Or at least certain concepts within it that reveal something.
Like for example 1/3 = 0.333...
2/3 = 0.666...
3/3 = 0.999... = 1.
Like this is the most simple example I can think of and I often bring it up...
If you are thinking about this deeply and you don't find it freaky, I don't think you understand it. Maybe I don't either, but I must've gone deep enough to feel the freaky. Hahah.
I love this one because it's kinda like a limit in math without being an actual limit.
An infinitesimally small number so close to zero that it equals zero.
Or an infinitesimally-close-to-1-number, which is so close to 1 that it equals it.
You can surely claim more advanced knowledge, I'll concede it.
You can go into depth and explain this all you want.
But man, isn't this freaky? Something freaky going on there.
And this isn't even remotely chaos theory or all that stuff. This is just division and multiplication of fractions, and already we can run into things we don't *really* understand (I think).
Well, as far as I know, mathematics is full of that.
Extraordinary interview with Eric Schmidt.
Dr. Ian Malcolm: "Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should".
I'm going to have to listen to this again.
I doubt Einstein would have said, a person like Kissinger, should be resurrected in any form. How many lives, stolen? Intelligence, consciousness, conscience. Good or evil?
Another post that suggest a Jewish pacifist would not care much for a Jewish peacemaker. Might want to learn instead of trying to re-write history.
0:12 I’ve been pondering the intersection of AI and Quantum since 2019! I’m excited to see how you all discuss this!
Love your channel, Brian!
Thanks for this conversation. It illustrates how AI is accelerating the acceleration of science and technological acceleration. I think the technological singularity is coming a whole lot faster than even the most optimistic experts predict. Thanks for posting.
We can't be sure that optimism is the right word--that's why they call it a singularity.
Every student having their own AI teacher modeled to them sounds like a nightmare. School is also about socialization not just information input.
Fascinating discussion! Both exciting and very disconcerting !🇿🇦
it's reassuring to hear so much positivity around AI, most of what is being said on youtube is always tinted with a bit of doom and gloom, but mr schmidt here reminds us of why we wanted AI in the first place, to augment what humans are already doing.
I’m not opposed to AI but also please remember that he (literally) has a vested interest in the success of AI.
Brian Greene and Eric Schmidt 👋👋👋 that was Great thank you ty ty.
trustability ... the challenge !! Not because of ai but because of humans using it .. Great conversation, many thanks.
I was a fantastic concept artist. 15 years of self teaching and immense struggle and determination. I had worked on big projects and was finally getting the opportunity to develop my own movie idea. AI image generators suddenly appeared and every studio I was connected with dropped me overnight. My own project was cancelled. My career and life passion was over. Three months later my hair fell out all over my body and what was left turned white. Stress related alopecia. The shock and disappointment was devastating. I never heard from those studios or got any new work from anyone else. AI is destroying creativity and human purpose. It’s all designed to replace us, and make humans obsolete. Not to mention all the data it scrapes, including my own entire portfolio. These two have no concern for anyone but themselves.
You are the one only thinking about yourself. Everything you wrote was about you. I do feel bad for you of course, but you remind me of horse coach riders , when automobiles were invented. " These cars took my job*. Good luck to you, I hope it all works out.
this is like therapy for me. just two men having a humble, calm, logcial discussion. lets me ignore my social environment for a moment. wish all people around me were like that i would be so much more motivated and productive. and interacting xd.
Thank you for this enriching and profound discussion. The term 'polymath' resonates deeply with me-it represents an ideal of intellectual versatility and curiosity that seems increasingly essential in today’s interconnected world. Your series brilliantly captures the spirit of this term through engaging with some of the most visionary thinkers in AI and Quantum Computing. Each conversation, especially this one with Eric Schmidt, offers not just a snapshot of current innovations but a window into the impactful possibilities of the future. It's truly inspiring to see such a multifaceted approach to understanding where we stand today and where we might head tomorrow. Thank you for broadening our horizons and continuing to inspire with every episode.
This guest proudly stated that mass murderer and war criminal Henry Kissinger was his best friend
And he is extremely influential person in domain and companies that affect everyone..
The key points he admitted is that he is " the man" now and that his best friend was Kissinger. I am not so ready to embrace a man like this without considering the dichotomy that was Kissinger. Great conversation but let us not blindly adore without our critical thinking employed.
This post is critical, but does not contain much thinking.
Thank you Brian for another great Video!!!!
I was out at “The U.S. would be like Communist China if not myself and others.” That’s a staggering amount of self-aggrandizement. The U.S. has many systems that have kept it on the rails that don’t rely on a handful of self-interested tech entrepreneurs. They created some very serious societal problems along with the positive contributions they made.
The education part at 1:07 to 1:13 is quite interesting here. Feedback loops that incrementally adjust to a students learning capabilities, primarily using our dominant visual cortex.
as an "to be" teacher (still at the end of my bachelor), i was recently wondering if its still worth finishing my studies with how fast jobs are replaced and i had the same idea about it with it being individualized etc. even maybe an AI-classroom in VR format etc. but i think ploitics and people (parents) will be very slow to adapt (10+ years) even once the tech is there (And ripe).
im not opposed to it at all though, will be great. just like wikipedia but SO MUCH MORE.
@@kliersheed yes, finish
I landed here after listening to a quantum computing program… Great episode.
Frank Herbert kinda addressed the ramifications of machine dependency.
Well said. The guy is a powerful deeply problematic sociopath
I meant Schmidt not Herbert
Excellent. Thank you. Appreciated.
Great conversation. The discussion about education is truly insightful and inspiring (1:05)
Eric is a fabulous interview and brings so much experience to the table! Great conversation!!
This is excellent poignant, insightful, even provocative presentation!
Amazing conversation between two very bright minds. A pleasure listening to Eric Schmitt
The idea of AI as an institution with agency raises interesting questions from a Hegelian perspective. In Hegel's philosophy, institutions are not mere instruments but embodiments of the collective will and rationality of a community. They have a certain degree of autonomy and play an active role in shaping the ethical life of individuals and society. Applying this view to AI suggests a more complex and dynamic relationship between technology and human agency.
If AI systems are seen as institutions, they can be understood as embodiments of a certain kind of rationality or "objective spirit" (objektiver Geist). Just as the state, in Hegel's view, represents the actualization of reason in the political sphere, AI could be seen as the actualization of reason in the technological sphere. This implies that AI is not just a tool created by humans but a manifestation of a larger rational process that shapes human thought and action.
The agency of AI as an institution suggests a dialectical relationship with human agency. Just as individuals are shaped by the institutions they participate in, AI systems are shaped by the human values, biases, and interests that go into their design and deployment. At the same time, AI shapes human behavior and decision-making through its algorithmic processes and outputs. This mutual shaping can be seen as a dialectical process of co-evolution, where human and artificial agencies are both transformed through their interaction.
As an institution with agency, AI can be seen as imposing certain objective constraints on human behavior and decision-making. Just as the laws and norms of a state limit individual freedom while also enabling social coordination and cooperation, AI systems can constrain human agency through their algorithmic rules and parameters. However, these constraints can also be enabling conditions for new forms of freedom and creativity, such as the ability to process vast amounts of data or generate novel insights and solutions.
If AI has institutional agency, it also has an ethical dimension. AI systems are not neutral tools but embody certain values, norms, and biases that shape their impact on society. As such, they can be seen as mediating the ethical life of individuals and communities. This raises important questions about the transparency, accountability, and legitimacy of AI as an ethical mediator. It suggests the need for democratic oversight and participation in the design and governance of AI systems to ensure they align with the values and interests of the community.
Viewing AI as an institution with agency challenges the instrumental view of technology as a mere tool for human purposes. It suggests that AI has a certain autonomy and trajectory that cannot be fully controlled by human intentions. This calls for a more reflexive and dialectical approach to the development and deployment of AI, one that recognizes its agency and seeks to shape it in ways that enhance rather than undermine human freedom and ethical life.
A Hegelian perspective on AI as an institution with agency highlights the complex and dynamic relationship between technology and human autonomy. It suggests that AI is not just an instrument but an embodiment of a larger rational process that shapes and is shaped by human thought and action. Navigating this dialectical relationship requires a critical and participatory approach to the design and governance of AI systems, one that recognizes their ethical and political dimensions and seeks to align them with the values and interests of the community.
Agree the relationship requires critical and participatory approach to AI. Who is going to make that happen? Certainly not Altman and his group.
Thank you Eric for mentioning me, the polymath - Anthony Williams !
This will be interesting!
I listened to whole episode not knowing who he was talking to. Very pleasant this guy. I know he is a legend.
Dr. Green I’m not a physicist, but I’m mildly shocked that someone would leave a comment on your presentation here that is profusely, criticizing, and complaining that there’s no good content here is that something that you as a brilliant physicist has always had to deal with people criticizing with such humongous God complexes maybe this guy needs to goyou know watch some Mickey Mouse cartoons or something we love your work. We appreciate you and we love you only came across your website within the last six months and I find you a great teacher, thank you for putting the cookies in palace that my brain can get it. !You are dead on it. Thank you for all this informative stuff. We are so glad you were born❤
Eric Schmidt is always so interesting to listen to.
15:31 “I don’t know what to do anymore unless I can talk to my PolyMath (AI)”. Yeah that’s not concerning or foreboding in the least.
Be a plumber
Brian, please do one of these interview-talks with Scott Arronson. Seems you are of late interviewing people with deep pockets, especially when it comes to tech-oriented topics. The quantum computing conversation hype tendency needs to be constantly reined in by the actual science. We need to be constantly reminded that engineering isn't science, that subjective motives bring the very noise that makes science so necessary (and effective). To my mind, computation is limited in a hard way by basic causality, by the cost of structure, or more specifically, the cost of changing structure (one to zero, zero to one). This cost is absolute. Information demands latency of this structure. Structure itself only makes sense in any computational domain, to the extent that structure is defined as latency. So… if a dynamics that produces quantum entanglement and superposition, can only do so outside of structural latency, well something needs to be accounted for regarding the cost of translation from informational structure to the unstructured (latency-free) world of quantum dynamics and then back out to informational structure. Susskind has struggled towards this notion in his work to translate between general relativity and quantum dynamics. To wit, this is not a computational problem, this is a basic physics problem. And, importantly, we've seen a new scientific realm taken to absurd fringes before. Alchemy, gases as ethers, electricity as progenitor of life, rockets and science fiction, robots as slaves, and now, computers as gateway to rapturous access to immortality and omnipotence). Time for some reality. Tech titans like Schmidt are people who have experienced a long string of fortunate events. They can't help but to be wearing deeply tinted rose-colored glasses, and can't help but be ridiculously optimistic, at a level mimicking extreme narcism. They re also likely to be very very good at charm and rhetorical manipulation. If this is really a science-oriented, science-driven group, let’s get back to the core of science, its demand that we self-identify all of the sources of subjective bias and noise that we bring, and to go about the methodological filtering of that noise so that we might better see beyond what we might want or fear to be, to what actually is. Unless we do, Quantum Computing and AI are bound to become the "Singularity", the "Cold Fusion", of the 2020s.
Wordy - learn economy of expression (suggestion)
Thank you.
I can't say how much I love that idea of AI education
Invaluable
I love this podcast, both are experinced renowned people who are making a huge impact on our world
Such clear and concise chat.
Eric was a close friend with Henry Kissinger (a war criminal). Interesting.
Peacemakers redefined as war criminals = brain has been washed.
Very interesting. Brian Greene is one of my favorite physicists to listen to. Eric Schmidt is also very interesting.
The guy says he went from fighting "The Man" to being best friends with Kissinger,. Is this guy for real?😅
Henry Kissinger's expertise was diplomacy. He won the Nobel Peace prize for his central role in stopping the Vietnam war. Nothing to do with his work on AI with Eric Schmidt.
Kissinger was not a nice man said Christopher Hitchens. I don’t think he meant 100%. But close enough to query any “best friends”
@@johnnywilkinson9736 Christopher Hitchens gets quoted. Comical.
@stephenforest3345 Henry Kissinger “ended the Vietnam War” seriously? The war ended when the Vietcong army defeated the US backed puppet government
@@JamesSpence-sg5ncYou must not be an atheist lol
You missed computing with light
"my great friend Henry Kissinger" lol goodbye
cya
Lmao I literally thought he was talking about a different Kissinger but no….no he’s being dead serious. He actually admires Henry Kissinger 😮
@@haiderameer9473 yeah me too, i thought maybe there was a Kissinger that invented a longer lasting battery, but no there can be only one.. maniac
Pro Kissinger and Pro China (CCP) guy is in the government overseeing AI
lol never heard that line before as a brag 😂
49 minutes is the most important point in the entire interview
Mr. Schmidt is right about one thing. He has become "The Man"
Eccentricities
Circular Orbit: e = 0
Elliptic Orbit: 0 < e < 1
Parabolic Trajectory: e = 1
Hyperbolic Trajectory: e > 1
Did these two stay up all night drinking Pepsi Max watching The Matrix before jumping on a podcast at 4pm?
Lol Its great though
Would like to see Stephen Wolfram as a part of this conversation.
Eric suggested a law that would require social media companies to verify the identity of thier customers? I'm sure that these tech firms would never, ever "colude" with government agencies or misuse this information. It's not like free speech is written into our constitution.
If you think that you haven't given the government enough data to figure out who you are without direct help from companies then you may want to read back over the Patriot act as well as the digital millennium copyright act.
Youre so damn primitive. Dude we're in the 21st century. That is NOT the threat.
Thank you so much for sharing this. This is the most articulate explanation of how AI will change our world I have found. I am so grateful for Dr. Greene and his work and I am optimistic about the future of AI especially in the realm of education and medicine.
Incredible conversation listening to a person who has totally sold out, claimed he was once fighting 'the man' yet who is a deeply insidious control freak with best friends like Henry Kissinger. The only value this guy worships is profit and clout.
“Creative Leap”, that’s all we need to understand how far we humans have gone….
If this guy was a friend of Kissinger then democracy isn’t his first thought
You don’t even know democracy if a lightning bolt hits you.
*best
I disagree. Kissinger had a lot of friends with different viewpoints.
Culturally maybe or ethnicity
Possibly. I have close friends who I don’t agree with on major political issues, though.