The British were far nicer than the French, the British helped educate the population in the last century and were welcomed in many areas in Arabia. Wasnt the same for the French in Algeria and elsewhere.
''Persians'' did not anything you said in the video. They did not fight the Russians in the Caucasus, they did not interfere in the affairs of Afghanistan, they did not sign an agreement with the British. Those who guided the country's political and military administration were the Qizilbash Turks, who despised the ''Persians'' and spoke same language with their Ottoman cousins in Anatolia.
Imo the North African and Middle Eastern Muslim polities or states during this times should have implemented progressive taxation like a land value tax (to replace some taxes), reformed their economies into open markets and engaged more in foreign free trade to repay their huge debts.
These long form videos are really great Jabzy. I’ve been a regular viewer of yours since you started and I have to say that of all the history channels on UA-cam, you are one of the few that has gone uphill rather than downhill. Thanks you very much.
‘Liberated’ WHAT? Anybody who supports what among others the Greeks did during there war of independence (for example in Navarino Crete and Tripolitsa) the Russo-Turkish war of 1877-1878 and the Balkan wars isn’t normal. Many Greek cities were built by Ottoman Pasha’s for example the city Komotini was commissioned by Ottoman Gazi Evrenos Bey.
@@YoussefDaanBenAmor? The Ottomans were not exactly nice to the people the conquered and enslaved either. Like the whole of history is pretty gruesome all over the world. Modern morals and humanistic values are very new across the world.
@@meaghanorlinski8464 Firstly a little more on the content. It is indeed an interesting thought if Napoleon commanded his forces through the Balkans and not Egypt, especially since he would have been at war with the Ottomans either way. But he was out for adventure and the Balkans were i think a little too close to home for him. Secondly whilst the Ottomans didn’t build there Empire based on complete tolerance lots of different cultures did flourish including in the Balkans.
@@YoussefDaanBenAmor"Many Greek cities were built by ottoman..." What are you talking about? Most Cities in Greece and Anarolia were built by Greeks. The Turcoman raids destroyed most of them and later they renamed them. Nice revisionism but you must try harder.
@@YoussefDaanBenAmorAs for Komotini and who builded it it is exactly what I described above. There was already a Greek city from the antiquity. The Asiatic invaders were not city builders. On the contrary...
Regarding Algeria you forgot to mention an important resistance in the east which is Ahmad bey resistance of Constantine. He was bey in the regency of Algiers and is regarded as a hero in a comparable dimension as emir abalkadir, and regarding abdalkadir he received a pair of pistols from American president Abraham Lincoln for saving Christians in the Damascus massacre.
The title of the video and miniature is quite misleading. In fact, when watching your detailed videos, it appears clear to me that Europeans were not ready to colonize or exploit everything and everyone, but rather another (albeit powerful) agent, like the minorities and different dynasties that you present, in a region that was struggling to keep pace with a modernizing world. Great content
Your videos are always so inspiring. In the west we never learn the complex history of what is one of the worlds oldest populated area of the world. I think this is why wars in the area can then be so quickly manipulated to various propaganda campaigns. Western minds are a blank slate to the area's history, and quickly absorb whatever is suggested to them. Everything is over simplified and given a western framework, everything becomes a "CIA Plot" because people can't fathom cultures and power structures much older then the USA itself have its own agenda and political will. There is no respect for the peoples of the area, everyone is just a flat NPC waiting to be exploited by European powers. Or an mid-evil evil force of baddies. There is no possibility of strategy, partnership, commercial expansion, self-interest, national pride, depth, real history.
I wouldn't call the actual Arabian Peninsula that, I assume you mean the MENA region in general. You also just single out "the West" when other places of the world also don't know. The West also isn't just the USA either
At 16:11 the Husainid dynasty is mentioned, they actually ruled Tunisia till after the country gained independence from France in 1956. It was only when the weak king Lamine Bey was shoved aside by the powerful incoming Bourguiba in 1957 that the monarchy was abolished.
I reckon apart from The Holy Land and Old Testament sites rediscovered in this era as verification of scripture, mostly the European interest was in trade & communication routes. Coaling stations & telegraph posts were a lot less glamorous, perhaps, but they ran trade before diesel oil from the region became important to shipping & petroleum fuels drove land & air transport including the military. The Ottoman Empire in Arabia used railroads for heavy lifting & these were targeted by the rebel forces.
Europe was way too kind to them. Would an Arabic/African/Turkish Empire stop colonization like the British and French Empires did? Never. What happened after 1945 is historically unheard of. Neither the French nor the British profit from releasing them.
Cringe. They left bcs the cost was increasing to run those lands especially with the rise of nationalism there was lots of resistance making it even more costly
The real substantive question to ask is if the Ottomans committed genocide on Balkan Christians during their centuries-long conquest and domination of the region.
I commend you for braving the topic. I knew the moment I saw the title there would be a wave of knee-jerk red herring comments. I think an interesting video idea for the future might be the Zemene Mesafint period of Ethiopia.
The Muslim countries should have used foreign free trade cash, reformed their economic models into being open market economies and Land value taxation imo to pay their debts smh
ı am circissian and my ancestors fled from circissian genocide to the Ottoman empire. as we cacucusian muslims we enlisted for ıslamic caliphs army and fight against Russia and armenians.
@@hazemmansour6053 MUSLIMS are still fighting among themselves even now and with other kafir nations. They are constantly under war. Europe has moved away from war after World War II.
@JabzyJoe Just started watching but in regards to the Circassians what are you talking about? Their genocide by the Russians or their forced conversion and usage as the preferred sex slaves (many are fair with blue eyes and were easily accessible) throughout the Muslim world until the 19th century?
@@euboean3079 so you wouldn't be opposed to Nigerians genociding the Spanish cos they owned slaves until recently? This level of whataboutism is fiercely boring.
@@JabzyJoe The Haitians exterminated the entire white population of Haiti over slavery. And not just kill but rape and torture everyone, women and children included. This was made permissible by their national heroe who only spared some Polish mercenaries for being the "white n*ggers" of Europe. I don't recall the French denying their wrongs and highlighting this brutality against Haiti. They even allowed Haitian ambassadors in Paris following the French revolution. You can talk about Whatsboutism but from my perspective as a Balkanian, the Muslim world got off very lightly. The Circassians aren't a representation of Islam, and when the Russians attempted the same in nowaday Trabzon against the Turks, the Pontic Greek community protected them. The Turks rewarded them two decades later with a brutal genocide, something they still deny. They got off very lightly.
@@JabzyJoeI think you misunderstood. He means if you are refering a) to the russian massacre against the Circassians or b) to the forced conversion and enslavement they suffered apon being conquered by the ottomans
Are the Europeans guilty of a muslim genocide? Well first: that question plays EXTREMELY fast and loose with the word "genocide". And secondly, why are we even asking such a silly question when every border with Islam has been bloody?
Colonialism brought several benefits and simply a product of its times. Whilst it played it's parts Britain was the reason why slavery worldwide came to an end in the developed world are there Navy is what put it ends to the remnants of trade. Note how all the former colonies that established capital governments are burgeoning and it's unfortunate many work collapsed by the oppressive virus that is socialism
26:44 western sahara was under Spanish-moroccan(heir of the king🇲🇦) control,and the fact that the speratist are just mercenaries from sub-saharien africa backed by algeria(so they can have a coast in the Atlantic🌊) and doesn't have a capital and also the sahrawis population in western/moroccan sahara doesn't want to seperate,in conclusion western sahara just a conflict made up by colonization and backed by a party🇩🇿 for a target🌊
More click bait crap. "colonialism" has been going on since the beginning of time. We've always tried to take our neighbors grain, women, land, whatever. And before then we fought each other over the best cave, the best tree, the best fire. It's not even logical to keep asking the boring Colonial question. It's only logical to talk about the facts, which this channel blatantly fails to do.
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The British were far nicer than the French, the British helped educate the population in the last century and were welcomed in many areas in Arabia. Wasnt the same for the French in Algeria and elsewhere.
''Persians'' did not anything you said in the video. They did not fight the Russians in the Caucasus, they did not interfere in the affairs of Afghanistan, they did not sign an agreement with the British. Those who guided the country's political and military administration were the Qizilbash Turks, who despised the ''Persians'' and spoke same language with their Ottoman cousins in Anatolia.
@@Spartan_Disiplin Turkish people are far from being the cousins of Persians, very different linage.
@@Narrowcros Nobody said that. Read again.
Imo the North African and Middle Eastern Muslim polities or states during this times should have implemented progressive taxation like a land value tax (to replace some taxes), reformed their economies into open markets and engaged more in foreign free trade to repay their huge debts.
These long form videos are really great Jabzy. I’ve been a regular viewer of yours since you started and I have to say that of all the history channels on UA-cam, you are one of the few that has gone uphill rather than downhill. Thanks you very much.
Theyre also a reframing of history. Aka lies.
@@joshportie how so? how is this a reframing of history?
I wonder what would've happened if Napoleon invaded the Balkans instead of Egypt in 1798. Could Napoleon have liberated Greece from Ottoman rule?
‘Liberated’ WHAT? Anybody who supports what among others the Greeks did during there war of independence (for example in Navarino Crete and Tripolitsa) the Russo-Turkish war of 1877-1878 and the Balkan wars isn’t normal. Many Greek cities were built by Ottoman Pasha’s for example the city Komotini was commissioned by Ottoman Gazi Evrenos Bey.
@@YoussefDaanBenAmor? The Ottomans were not exactly nice to the people the conquered and enslaved either. Like the whole of history is pretty gruesome all over the world. Modern morals and humanistic values are very new across the world.
@@meaghanorlinski8464 Firstly a little more on the content. It is indeed an interesting thought if Napoleon commanded his forces through the Balkans and not Egypt, especially since he would have been at war with the Ottomans either way. But he was out for adventure and the Balkans were i think a little too close to home for him. Secondly whilst the Ottomans didn’t build there Empire based on complete tolerance lots of different cultures did flourish including in the Balkans.
@@YoussefDaanBenAmor"Many Greek cities were built by ottoman..."
What are you talking about? Most Cities in Greece and Anarolia were built by Greeks. The Turcoman raids destroyed most of them and later they renamed them.
Nice revisionism but you must try harder.
@@YoussefDaanBenAmorAs for Komotini and who builded it it is exactly what I described above. There was already a Greek city from the antiquity. The Asiatic invaders were not city builders. On the contrary...
Regarding Algeria you forgot to mention an important resistance in the east which is Ahmad bey resistance of Constantine. He was bey in the regency of Algiers and is regarded as a hero in a comparable dimension as emir abalkadir, and regarding abdalkadir he received a pair of pistols from American president Abraham Lincoln for saving Christians in the Damascus massacre.
Abraham Lincoln was friends with Christopher Spencer; the inventor if the Spencer Repeating Carbine.
A very satisfying listen. Wonderfully thorough research, and remarkably free of ideology. Well done!
I love your videos, but I would really love to know your sources so i could study more about some subjects, could you start making them available?
The title of the video and miniature is quite misleading. In fact, when watching your detailed videos, it appears clear to me that Europeans were not ready to colonize or exploit everything and everyone, but rather another (albeit powerful) agent, like the minorities and different dynasties that you present, in a region that was struggling to keep pace with a modernizing world.
Great content
Your videos are always so inspiring. In the west we never learn the complex history of what is one of the worlds oldest populated area of the world.
I think this is why wars in the area can then be so quickly manipulated to various propaganda campaigns. Western minds are a blank slate to the area's history, and quickly absorb whatever is suggested to them.
Everything is over simplified and given a western framework, everything becomes a "CIA Plot" because people can't fathom cultures and power structures much older then the USA itself have its own agenda and political will. There is no respect for the peoples of the area, everyone is just a flat NPC waiting to be exploited by European powers. Or an mid-evil evil force of baddies. There is no possibility of strategy, partnership, commercial expansion, self-interest, national pride, depth, real history.
The CIA theories are always conspiracy theories...
Until the declassify the files decades later^^
I wouldn't call the actual Arabian Peninsula that, I assume you mean the MENA region in general.
You also just single out "the West" when other places of the world also don't know. The West also isn't just the USA either
You still havent in watching this.
You should probably just read old history books. Theyre generally better and less dishonest.
Always a great day with a Jabzy upload!
Great video again, glad you got a sponsorship deal too, you deserve it!
Babe wake up Jabzy posted
I really find it shocking that you do so much work but then you only have 270k subscribers
At 16:11 the Husainid dynasty is mentioned, they actually ruled Tunisia till after the country gained independence from France in 1956. It was only when the weak king Lamine Bey was shoved aside by the powerful incoming Bourguiba in 1957 that the monarchy was abolished.
WAIT WAIT WAIT wait wait wait...
Do you make your maps with Inkarnate? Cuz i use that alot
Please do a video on the history of Kurds
Puedes hablar de la guerra civil americana y la invasión Francesa a Mexico seria muy interesante saludos desde Guerrero México
Thank you, the information was good
I reckon apart from The Holy Land and Old Testament sites rediscovered in this era as verification of scripture, mostly the European interest was in trade & communication routes. Coaling stations & telegraph posts were a lot less glamorous, perhaps, but they ran trade before diesel oil from the region became important to shipping & petroleum fuels drove land & air transport including the military. The Ottoman Empire in Arabia used railroads for heavy lifting & these were targeted by the rebel forces.
God bless your videos now I know the origin of the Middle East
Great video.
keep it up!!
when you refer to spanish colonies in 26:10 do you mean Ceuta and Melilla or did the spanish have control over some other territories in the north ?
Europe was way too kind to them. Would an Arabic/African/Turkish Empire stop colonization like the British and French Empires did? Never. What happened after 1945 is historically unheard of. Neither the French nor the British profit from releasing them.
Cringe.
They left bcs the cost was increasing to run those lands especially with the rise of nationalism there was lots of resistance making it even more costly
I love ur videos
0:58 very very interesting, I love this videos
My real name is Emanuele
@@elidesportelli325 and last name?
you have been in a middle and far east tear learning a lot abt these less documented areas, lovin it keep up the stellar work
The real substantive question to ask is if the Ottomans committed genocide on Balkan Christians during their centuries-long conquest and domination of the region.
Please make a video about the Iraqi Revolt in 1920
It's coming in a future episode
@@JabzyJoe Thank you very much, but please don't forget
I commend you for braving the topic. I knew the moment I saw the title there would be a wave of knee-jerk red herring comments. I think an interesting video idea for the future might be the Zemene Mesafint period of Ethiopia.
Sounds like the Arab colonizers got a taste of their own medicine.
That’s how I feel to
The Muslim countries should have used foreign free trade cash, reformed their economic models into being open market economies and Land value taxation imo to pay their debts smh
There's a reason why empires fall sonny, it's arrogance.
The only genocide I am aware of was in the Balkans, Algeria, Circassia, and Palestine.
Yeah the 1929 massacres of jews in Hebron and Nablus were indeed genocides...
The amount of people who just go "no" instead of watching the video is exactly the reason the world is the way it is today.
Not yet.
Something tells me Russia extending more south than the Caucasus looks uncanny and I dunno why
You're the balance of power animal. You have a special survival instinct based on fear.
ı am circissian and my ancestors fled from circissian genocide to the Ottoman empire. as we cacucusian muslims we enlisted for ıslamic caliphs army and fight against Russia and armenians.
@@earthalien2584 weakling
@@earthalien2584 motherless runt.
Sure this comments section will be civil
Even if it isn’t still keep it up with the quality history content 👍🏾
@@_Ben___ Any particular reason?
W vid per usual
A tale of East and West
Algerians would say so
Arabs and Muslim countries always fought and there was never a peace period. They were constantly warring against kafirs or even among themselves.😂
So was europe during this period and earlier ones?
@@hazemmansour6053 MUSLIMS are still fighting among themselves even now and with other kafir nations. They are constantly under war.
Europe has moved away from war after World War II.
@@tomcat4321well America sure as hell hasn't. Did they find the WMDs? No, but they sure as hell did steal oil and murder 2 million
There has always conquests,
Bibliography please 🙏
Where did Bahrain get its water back then?
Maybe in the future we will be
Schopenhauer said of history
EADEM SED ALITER
The same, but different
TL;DW
Answer: No
Circassians.
@JabzyJoe
Just started watching but in regards to the Circassians what are you talking about?
Their genocide by the Russians or their forced conversion and usage as the preferred sex slaves (many are fair with blue eyes and were easily accessible) throughout the Muslim world until the 19th century?
@@euboean3079 so you wouldn't be opposed to Nigerians genociding the Spanish cos they owned slaves until recently?
This level of whataboutism is fiercely boring.
@@JabzyJoe The Haitians exterminated the entire white population of Haiti over slavery. And not just kill but rape and torture everyone, women and children included. This was made permissible by their national heroe who only spared some Polish mercenaries for being the "white n*ggers" of Europe.
I don't recall the French denying their wrongs and highlighting this brutality against Haiti. They even allowed Haitian ambassadors in Paris following the French revolution.
You can talk about Whatsboutism but from my perspective as a Balkanian, the Muslim world got off very lightly.
The Circassians aren't a representation of Islam, and when the Russians attempted the same in nowaday Trabzon against the Turks, the Pontic Greek community protected them.
The Turks rewarded them two decades later with a brutal genocide, something they still deny.
They got off very lightly.
@@JabzyJoeI think you misunderstood. He means if you are refering a) to the russian massacre against the Circassians or b) to the forced conversion and enslavement they suffered apon being conquered by the ottomans
Napoleon had a weak navy... it will be a difficult struggle to free Greece
Rome “colonized” Europe. And that was a good thing.
Can you do a video about daily life in wartime America especially in the Midwest or What have you?
Now make a video called "How did Muslims colonized the Middle East?"
Wow a certificate for fraudulant letters.
HA! One of the first! I’ll be faster next time
Also, I’ve noticed you’ve improved your art, and it’s great! Keep up the good work.
Are the Europeans guilty of a muslim genocide? Well first: that question plays EXTREMELY fast and loose with the word "genocide". And secondly, why are we even asking such a silly question when every border with Islam has been bloody?
Well in Circasia or ehatever the fuvk its called partly yes but it was mostly just an expulsion
2:45 I love the history of the colonialism
My real name is Emanuele
@@elidesportelli325 eh, oh man well
Wtf is that thumbnail??? Jesus mang
If they didn't they should have
No we aren't and no we didn't thank you and goodbye
Following Arab foot steps since they taught the Iberians now it went full circle.
Clearly not or they did a really bad job of it
They did a real bad job of it
Ugh, dont give those poor annoying muslims more things to complain about🙄
Must be a terrorist and Islamophobic as well
complain? europe will be majority muslim by 2060 lmao, we'll see who complains then 😏
@@ahadmirza1508You will be driven out long before then :P
@@ahadmirza1508Rivers of Blood.
@@ahadmirza1508 I guess we'll have to ramp up our hate
:)
Colonial apologetics in the comments and intriguing rhetoric spurred by the video.
Colonialism brought several benefits and simply a product of its times. Whilst it played it's parts Britain was the reason why slavery worldwide came to an end in the developed world are there Navy is what put it ends to the remnants of trade. Note how all the former colonies that established capital governments are burgeoning and it's unfortunate many work collapsed by the oppressive virus that is socialism
26:44 western sahara was under Spanish-moroccan(heir of the king🇲🇦) control,and the fact that the speratist are just mercenaries from sub-saharien africa backed by algeria(so they can have a coast in the Atlantic🌊) and doesn't have a capital and also the sahrawis population in western/moroccan sahara doesn't want to seperate,in conclusion western sahara just a conflict made up by colonization and backed by a party🇩🇿 for a target🌊
They why dont you give them referandum that you agreed in 1990s
At this point you guys are just making up stories to feed your ego and cover the holes in your narrative 😂😂
More click bait crap. "colonialism" has been going on since the beginning of time. We've always tried to take our neighbors grain, women, land, whatever. And before then we fought each other over the best cave, the best tree, the best fire. It's not even logical to keep asking the boring Colonial question. It's only logical to talk about the facts, which this channel blatantly fails to do.
Guessing you've mainly just read the titles and got riled up.
What does this have to do with the video? It clearly talking about a specific set of events not the entire human history.
@@initial_kdyeah we all saw that but you can't talk about the middle east without referencing all the important players
Lol
No.
Peak comedian here
If they where there would be none left more like they tried and failed