I was sexually abused, it destroyed my whole life. My wife was sexually abused the results my marriage, she left me for a rich LA magazine model. She ripped my heart out so bad I can't feel anything but pain and suffering. I have so much rage, pain, it's destroying my mind, my heart, my soul! Iv begged him for three years to heal me., BUT NOTHING, HE DOSNT LOVE ME!!!!!! HE LIED, I don't BELIEVE ANY OF IT ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!
One wpuld think of he hates it so much he would do more to comfort us and prevent it. As it stands all God does is leave us to our own devices to rot, and only interviews whenever his plans are jeopardy of failing.
Abused at 6, around 23 now All i can say is GOD IS GOOD!!!!!! Have faith!!! God will work with you in your darkest times to the happiest times and remember "because the Lord disciplines the one he LOVES, and chastens everyone he accepts as his son" (Hebrew 12:6) he has delivered me in countless unfathomable ways
Oh don't worry, if your dad was a Christian, God will "Beat the shit out of him" in hell, for the remainder of eternity. "no man hath ascended into heaven". Joh 3: 13
When I was child it was fine but when I became a teenager, my mother used to hit me a lot. She grabbed me by the hair, slapped me across the face. The last time she hit me was when I was 24 and broke the bridge of my nose. Now, she uses verbal abuse (I’m 32) and yet, I do not abandon her. But I have so many deeply rooted issues and I feel like I’m beyond repair. My mother actually used to be sweet and pleasant as a child.
I’m so sorry you had to go through that. My mother is abusive to me aswell, but with my mum, she was worse in my childhood and she’s not as bad now. Still emotionally abusive, and verbally abusive but she doesn’t really hit me anymore. My childhood was horrible living with her. I hope your doing okay!! :) God loves you 🕊💗
@@eleanorbrown1629 thank you! It’s unfortunate because when I was child we had a great and healthy relationship. Immigration and more really took a toll on her and she changed throughout the years.
its just hard to find the balance that God let something happen then wants you to run to Him about it. i find most of my difficulty in this to be "if you cared so much why did you let it go on for 20 years". sometimes it feels like if He punched you in the face then asks you to run into His arms. maybe after being abused and neglected as a child it all looks like abuse. idk. i find it hard to not look at the relationship we have with God any differently than an abusive one. Do what i say or ill hurt you, dont do what i say and ill make you suffer your entire life. God tells us to ask then gives the answer of No. Its like getting constantly lured by God to Himself then He hits you just to repeat the process. Im not a giant fan of God and most of the time i dont like God at all, but i believe the Gospel so i guess in the end God saved me and it doesnt matter if i like God or not. No one goes to heaven because they like or dont like God, obedient or disobedient, happy or sad. its what Christ did on the cross.
As a Christian I struggle with the same thoughts. Scripture says that these events are what build you up into what God wants you to be. The intention is key, abusers in this world do not have your interests at heart. God cares about you and will subject you to the fire so you can be refined into something precious
Thes fortunate people rather than thank God for being chosen and saved and admit they have no answer and thank God for what they have they embark on mental gymnasts to blame the victims. Its my fault i was born of adultery? Phsyically and emotionammy abused, mentally damaged, spat on.....its all my fault....i guess. Who am i to dare complain. Its my fault to be subject tk rejection because its his will? If he says its my fault ok. But please stop acting like people who struggle its their fault. I never chose any of this. Show gratitude to God who spared you the horroble life some peoole are destined to live rather than try to twist words that blames the victims.
Drowned and abused as a child. I wish I heard this way back and was able to process my abuse properly instead of repressing my memories. Abuse breeds abuse, sin breeds sin. I would really like to receive at least an apology and explanation directly from my father so I can finally forgive and move on. I never held on to any hate or grudges, I just didn't know how to process the abuse what was done to me and why? it was so hard to accept and confusing. When a father commits child abuse they don't know they are maiming the child, their own child permanently. Mentally, physically and spiritually. God is angry for what happened to me but where is my justice? Where is my apology? It's not fair isn't it. I just wanted a normal upbringing without drowning, without maltreatment, without abuse .
So if I was raped it doesn't matter because God is so good? That's absolutely ridiculous if God wanted to do something good why not stop the rape? I don't know if God realized this after all these millennia but just whispering into someone's conscience isn't enough to make them stop.
R.I.P Headphone users. 😒Man this guy is really grasping at straws here. I wonder what kind of people are leaving nice comments….😳Some of us have PTSD and that whisper to a violent tone…not the smartest way to reach survivors of abuse. What I struggle with the most is our creator literally set things up so that you love and worship him or you depart from him and spend an eternity suffering in a Hell that he made but was never meant for us but he can and will put us there. And that is our free will.
+Lisette Medina..your bible verse was written an "other" who lived in the 10th century BC. Jesus came..and showed us the Father. He ask us to Love our enemies and He said the Father was Perfect..He gave sunlight to the good and the evil and rain to the just and unjust. Who are you going to believe? The "other" who lived in the 10th century or Jesus?
He made no error and did not lack control in your life when that fiend violated the laws of heaven and the sanctity of your life. God at once fore-ordains the doings of man and their condemnation as well as their salvation and their joy. Countless hundreds have known the life of Christ because of vile perversions they had to experience in the grand scheme of God's good plan. Look at the life of Job. No squirming and evasion is done here.
He has no error, He is perfect, His plan is perfect, your basic questions can’t answer, define, reveal to His Marvelous being.. do you know what would be of the world if He stopped every disaster? Don’t try to question the Lord bud, and you damian, YOU DON’T PLAY WITH GOD!
Our heavenly father allows us to teeter on the brink of suicide, but that's because "He loves us so much"?.... He allows us to remain there without lifting a finger to help, because after all, "What man would give his son a stone who asks for a loaf of bread, or a serpent to the son who asks for a fish"? So we ask, as sons, for deliverance, for years.... and we get dead silence, because "He loves so much"? Jesus said, "Love one another as I have loved you." And how did He do that? With compassion and power to heal, and deliver. But all we have is the compassion. He didnt equip us with power, so that we CAN "love one another", as He loved us! Inasmuch as God allows suffering, even to the point of us wanting to take our own lives, He wills it, when He could otherwise intervene in the circumstances that bring us to that point, but He does not, because He WILL not.
Dan Keane you have to forgive and recieve love and peace. God is kind and patient to those who sin that they would come to repentance. Hurt people hurt people. You and I aren't the only ones in the world who have gotten hurt. The people who hurt us are just as deserving of love and forgiveness themselves. We aren't any better than them.
God does love you! And although we think we are hearing silence we are not. God is able to be in any room without us even feeling it. When I was younger maybe a freshman in high school I wanted to kill myself. It was over something stupid I just didn't feel well liked at all. And in that moment alone in my house completely ready to end my life through tears streaming down my face. I had a small voice in my head telling me don't. So I listen to it and I didn't . No one even knew I was that depressed and everyone would've been shocked. But God was with me in that moment. And I wasn't even a true Christian at that point I was completely rebelling against him. But he chose me from the beginning and loved me anyway. Just like he loves you and works things for your good. You may be in a bad place right now but he wants to be with you and help you in the place you're in. I encourage you to really talk to God pray to him. Late at night in your room when no one else is around. Be honest with him tell him everything because he knows what you're thinking anyway. He wants a relationship with you more than you know. You are still here because God wants you here he is not done with you. Again he still loves you let him do his will in your life. If you need someone to talk to you I am here anytime. I'm sure anyone else in the comments would be willing to talk to you as well. Just know you are far from alone and as a brother in Christ we all love you. We don't have the answers to everything because God's ways are higher than our ways. But know that everything done is for God's glory and our good. And we have to trust in that.
Dan Keane I sympathize I've been hurt and tormented personally some things I couldn't tell people for years and when I did it hurt even more. I didn't feel like they took it well during to the severity. But God is faithful. Draw near to Him you can't carry it alone. I encourage you to go to someone who is a believer and ask them to help you with thos thing that's hurting you. You have to verbally bring it out. And ask God to intervene. The reason why someone should be there is because they can help you through prayer to bind the pain of the memory and forgive the person that hurt you or people. Idk you but I know deep pain and despair. I suffered a lot through life. God can handle what you throw at Him. Dont be afraid because He is for you. Repent of your distrust and put your little faith in Him and He will work it all out for your good.
I can definitely empathize with you. I had daily suicidal thoughts for 25 yrs. It was something I just accepted that I would have to deal with for the rest of my life. There were screaming voices telling me how worthless I was, how it was going to be easy to get rid of me and to just do it since no one loved me anyway and had nothing to live for. (I was taking anti depression meds all this time as well) My life up until that point definitely fit the..bearing hurt fruit..he mentioned in the video. Ten yrs ago, I had a spiritual deliverance where a minister prayed for me, put oil on my forehead and after the meeting, I didn't hear those voices anymore, and stopped taking the meds. Depression, anxiety and suicidal thoughts aren't just in the mind, they definitely have a spiritual element. The demonic wants to keep you in that state of despair and hopelessness; it definitely wants you to believe that God doesn't care and isn't willing to help. But those are all lies. But there's a certain ongoing "maintenance" that I have to keep up too such as...music & movies I don't watch or listen to any longer..people I don't associate with anymore, places I don't frequent any more; Not out of fear, but it's more like spiritual health. For example, you wouldn't go to a pizza place or donut shop if you're trying to lose weight. I agree with the commenter here who said to talk with a believer about what you're going through. And have them pray for you. Read Psalms if you can (I didn't want to read the Bible at any time during my spiritual oppression). Ask the Holy Spirit to give you guidance and discernment regarding your spiritual health. You're not alone my friend.
+adria harris..I read your suggested bible selections..very interesting..these bible people had a hard time figuring out Who God was. Your Malachi selection talks about the wicked people in chapters 1 and 2 and then Gods solution in chapters 3 and 4 was to send them Jesus to straighten them out. That was Good! But Your seccond selection is very questionable. Paul says..it is God who Chooses who will be wicked or good. He chooses a person to be wicked and then punishes them for it. The way Paul describes it..we Have No choice. That totally negates free will. They are very different solutions. I don't know which one you believe..because they are very different. I think Paul was a crackpot.
1:36 you can't claim that if you're Calvinist. It was, in Calvinism, God's "sovereign will" caused it. So surely He won't be saying "it's against my will, don't do that"
Brandon, you beat me to making this obvious point -- _"you can't claim that if you're Calvinist."_ Pipey the Evil should just have left this ridiculous contradiction in his theology alone.
Some of the greatest damage to YHWH has come from recipes trying to place an Eternal Infinite Creator in a box such as Calvin or Luther.. Yeshua explains this in the letters to the seven churches in the Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ.. Sardis of chapter 3:1-6 describes the age of church history called the reformation and Jesus has nothing good to say to it
It is God's soverign will that we use our own free will, but God is so far above that that he can even use the wickedness in our hearts and our will for His own glory, and for the good of all people.
I'm saying this in love, because I am a survivor of sexual abuse myself. He can still claim that. The over-arching will of God is to glorify God. The abuser is still not doing the will of God [individually as his/her own person] by sinning against the abused and Himself. Knowing that, and knowing how much God detests and loathes and cries out for us not to sin, and unless the abuser is fully committed to their wickedness, the Lord's will is that they do not sin against him. To that end the Lord puts a way out before them (as he does for all who sin). Thus, yes, said person may still commit that grievous wrong (against the will of God and against the other person), but the will of God in both their lives still stands and will come to fruition. In simple terms, God hates sin. God wills that we NOT sin against him. We sin against him. He knows we will and works out his purposes in our lives sovereignly, in order to magnify His glory and our work for our good. Yes, some few will repent and be saved, and a greater number will perish in darkness. I have hope that my abusers are in Christ now, and like them, I have had to repent of my sin. I could blame my abusers, but in the end, I'm also a sinner being sanctified daily. Think on 2 Thessalonians 1. Don't get so caught up in the calvinism/not a calvanist distraction that you miss the truth here.
So... the Sovereign, awesome, all powerful, all knowing, all present God COMMANDS the abuser(s) to stop and these guys don't give the slightest concern, and what does this God do with ALL his abilities against something that he "hates" to protect a child, an orphan? Pretty much sweet nothing that is perceivable in this dimension. "Hey, move on! All things have been made new! Jesus love YOU, have a Bible! Read it! Believe Him or you'll go to Hell! Pray for your enemies! Forgive! The Holy Spirit weeps over us when we sin. Jesus commands us to rejoice always!" Don't these "kind" evangelists know that they are talking not to, but at the ones who have been afflicted, through no wrong of their own? Hey, if this God is so powerful, why don't x'tians take on the fight for the victims? Have as much faith as the size of a mustard seed, makes a mountain move into water, right? Matt 17:20 "and nothing shall be impossible unto you." Oh no, "the battle belongs to the lord", (who is all-present but is seated at the right hand of the Father. Got it). The "Kingdom, Power and Glory" are Jesus' forever and ever amen. Yet His people are "hard pressed on all sides", but that's cool. Sometimes I wonder just how did we come to believe this. Then I remember that Lucifer didn't care about it either, so much so that he walked off with one third of the angels and God lets them go; the "enemy" came to sow "tares" and God allows the "tares" to grow amongst their crop because he gives rain to both the good and the evil. And it gets more intense, Lucifer will rule for 1000 years and God's not scrapping that, despite ALL His powers. Let's just ponder on that for a moment. Are these prophecies bigger than God then? This doesn't compute but seems to be so.
It is Much Better to Focus on Gods Love for you..than on Gods Hatred for Anything.. I do Not Believe God Hates. I believe that is a gross misrepresentation of God. I Never Need to think of Him hating..as the OT people did or as this man recommends.
kathleen Wharton God hates sin but not people Never people. But He hates sin because it separates those He loves from Him His love is why Jesus died for us but remember even as Jesus was on the Christ, God turned away (not from His sin who He loves but the sin that was suddenly upon Jesus). Never let anyone tell you God hates people but never be fooled into thinking God loves the evil we do or think Stay blessed and never let man convince you. read His word and talk to Him yourself. The issue is we sometimes pray and walk away without listening for answers. If someone had all the answers and we came with questions but walked away before He could share the answers and next steps, that would be pretty silly and not a god relationship with all Praying you have a strong relationship with Jesus! And also for anyone who reads this!
Again like with all Christian apologetics, there is always these false scenarios and you have to solve a rubric Cube of thought to associate with god. God hates, yet God never intervenes, he is apparently no so sovereign, that he can assist? The truth is - He simply does Not care. Religion is just false….
Apparently, its to glorify himself, even though God is sovereign, complete and universal, he needs to allow someone to be raped, tortured and murdered to be glorified
+I'm standing with Standing Rock..you do not understand. The "scripture" contradicts itself. Jesus Came to Correct the OT people..they gravely and grossly misrepresented God. And instead of people recognizing Jesus Correction to the OT people..you try to believe both. Jesus taught us and Showed us that God Does Not Hate. The OT is full of error. It is they and this man who are misrepresenting God. It is not an accusation..it is a fact..if you Believe Jesus. Which I do.
+Nicole Wong..I know your belief is the standard Christian belief..But I am not a standard Christian. I am a follower of Jesus and Him..Alone. I don't believe many things in the bible. So I am not convinced. Jesus did Not Hate. He was angry when He corrected the Pharisees and He wept on another occasion. Never did He display or mention Hating. You are talking about your OT God..and i certainly never thought Jesus loved evil. He said to Forgive..not to Hate. Jesus Never recommended Hating anything. This mans presentation..I could not even listen to the end..he looked and sounded like the Devil..Himself.
Thank you John Piper I had a rough upbringing and this is helping me not feel condemned for what others did to me
I was sexually abused, it destroyed my whole life. My wife was sexually abused the results my marriage, she left me for a rich LA magazine model. She ripped my heart out so bad I can't feel anything but pain and suffering. I have so much rage, pain, it's destroying my mind, my heart, my soul! Iv begged him for three years to heal me., BUT NOTHING, HE DOSNT LOVE ME!!!!!! HE LIED, I don't BELIEVE ANY OF IT ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!
One wpuld think of he hates it so much he would do more to comfort us and prevent it. As it stands all God does is leave us to our own devices to rot, and only interviews whenever his plans are jeopardy of failing.
Abused at 6, around 23 now
All i can say is
GOD IS GOOD!!!!!!
Have faith!!! God will work with you in your darkest times to the happiest times and remember "because the Lord disciplines the one he LOVES, and chastens everyone he accepts as his son" (Hebrew 12:6) he has delivered me in countless unfathomable ways
I was abused as a child, and yes as a Christian my pain is more manageable. My God is good. My God brings me great comfort.
You being abuse at 6 years old wasnt discipline from God.
God was good to you, not to me….
My Dad beat the hell out of me. I’ve tried to block most of it out. Was so painful 😖 God heal me please.
i’m so sorry, God bless you. 🤍
Oh don't worry, if your dad was a Christian, God will "Beat the shit out of him" in hell, for the remainder of eternity.
"no man hath ascended into heaven". Joh 3: 13
@@misterwakeupcall context IS KEY lol
God can't do shit, call the authories.
My dad is a bastard i hope rots in hell
When I was child it was fine but when I became a teenager, my mother used to hit me a lot. She grabbed me by the hair, slapped me across the face. The last time she hit me was when I was 24 and broke the bridge of my nose. Now, she uses verbal abuse (I’m 32) and yet, I do not abandon her. But I have so many deeply rooted issues and I feel like I’m beyond repair. My mother actually used to be sweet and pleasant as a child.
I’m so sorry you had to go through that. My mother is abusive to me aswell, but with my mum, she was worse in my childhood and she’s not as bad now. Still emotionally abusive, and verbally abusive but she doesn’t really hit me anymore. My childhood was horrible living with her. I hope your doing okay!! :) God loves you 🕊💗
@@eleanorbrown1629 thank you! It’s unfortunate because when I was child we had a great and healthy relationship. Immigration and more really took a toll on her and she changed throughout the years.
Jadore-otaku89 I’m sorry to hear about that. May God bless you and heal you from all of the pain and trauma. I hope you are doing better now 💗
As an abuse victim, and a Christian, I felt condemnation from this message. I don't need Mr. Piper shouting at me! That is NOT how God treats me.
its just hard to find the balance that God let something happen then wants you to run to Him about it. i find most of my difficulty in this to be "if you cared so much why did you let it go on for 20 years". sometimes it feels like if He punched you in the face then asks you to run into His arms. maybe after being abused and neglected as a child it all looks like abuse. idk. i find it hard to not look at the relationship we have with God any differently than an abusive one. Do what i say or ill hurt you, dont do what i say and ill make you suffer your entire life. God tells us to ask then gives the answer of No. Its like getting constantly lured by God to Himself then He hits you just to repeat the process. Im not a giant fan of God and most of the time i dont like God at all, but i believe the Gospel so i guess in the end God saved me and it doesnt matter if i like God or not. No one goes to heaven because they like or dont like God, obedient or disobedient, happy or sad. its what Christ did on the cross.
As a Christian I struggle with the same thoughts. Scripture says that these events are what build you up into what God wants you to be. The intention is key, abusers in this world do not have your interests at heart. God cares about you and will subject you to the fire so you can be refined into something precious
"god" CAUSED what happened to me.
He does not hate it. He delights because he is sadistic
Where can I find the whole sermon?
Thes fortunate people rather than thank God for being chosen and saved and admit they have no answer and thank God for what they have they embark on mental gymnasts to blame the victims. Its my fault i was born of adultery? Phsyically and emotionammy abused, mentally damaged, spat on.....its all my fault....i guess. Who am i to dare complain. Its my fault to be subject tk rejection because its his will? If he says its my fault ok. But please stop acting like people who struggle its their fault. I never chose any of this. Show gratitude to God who spared you the horroble life some peoole are destined to live rather than try to twist words that blames the victims.
Where is it, I’ve been begging for it for over 20 years
You are not alone bro, just pray every day more than once. Jesus will help you get through it.
Drowned and abused as a child. I wish I heard this way back and was able to process my abuse properly instead of repressing my memories. Abuse breeds abuse, sin breeds sin. I would really like to receive at least an apology and explanation directly from my father so I can finally forgive and move on. I never held on to any hate or grudges, I just didn't know how to process the abuse what was done to me and why? it was so hard to accept and confusing. When a father commits child abuse they don't know they are maiming the child, their own child permanently. Mentally, physically and spiritually. God is angry for what happened to me but where is my justice? Where is my apology? It's not fair isn't it. I just wanted a normal upbringing without drowning, without maltreatment, without abuse .
God's definition of good and my definition of good are clearly two different things according to this video.
He didn’t help me when I was abused by a teacher for three years and didn’t help me. He watched like a sick voyeur
So if I was raped it doesn't matter because God is so good? That's absolutely ridiculous if God wanted to do something good why not stop the rape? I don't know if God realized this after all these millennia but just whispering into someone's conscience isn't enough to make them stop.
Praise Jesus. Praise the Lord. Thank you God bless you
R.I.P Headphone users. 😒Man this guy is really grasping at straws here. I wonder what kind of people are leaving nice comments….😳Some of us have PTSD and that whisper to a violent tone…not the smartest way to reach survivors of abuse.
What I struggle with the most is our creator literally set things up so that you love and worship him or you depart from him and spend an eternity suffering in a Hell that he made but was never meant for us but he can and will put us there. And that is our free will.
I hate what happened to God
I'm not convinced that God loves anyone. Jesus died for the spiritual elite.
I guess God didn't fucking hate it that much, he allowed it to happen.
+Lisette Medina..your bible verse was written an "other" who lived in the 10th century BC. Jesus came..and showed us the Father. He ask us to Love our enemies and He said the Father was Perfect..He gave sunlight to the good and the evil and rain to the just and unjust. Who are you going to believe? The "other" who lived in the 10th century or Jesus?
This was beautiful, got my sub for sure!
It’s shocking the amount of questions not asked to be answered but pointing at Piper, like, why you even follow then?
Amen!!
I love how he says it's the victims fault. The preachers are out to take atvantge of hurting people and use their pain to make money
Anybody got the link to the full sermon?
NapoleonicDavis what is the will of God is the name of his full video watch it it’s changed my life
Adjust the volume levels please. The jump from a whisper to a scream is quite jarring.
Then why didn’t God stop it?
HE has no answer to that. So he yells squirms and quotes endless verses to cover that up.
Our God is in the Heavens, He does whatever He pleases
He made no error and did not lack control in your life when that fiend violated the laws of heaven and the sanctity of your life. God at once fore-ordains the doings of man and their condemnation as well as their salvation and their joy. Countless hundreds have known the life of Christ because of vile perversions they had to experience in the grand scheme of God's good plan. Look at the life of Job. No squirming and evasion is done here.
He has no error, He is perfect, His plan is perfect, your basic questions can’t answer, define, reveal to His Marvelous being.. do you know what would be of the world if He stopped every disaster?
Don’t try to question the Lord bud, and you damian, YOU DON’T PLAY WITH GOD!
Yes. This. This, this THIS!
Our heavenly father allows us to teeter on the brink of suicide, but that's because "He loves us so much"?.... He allows us to remain there without lifting a finger to help, because after all, "What man would give his son a stone who asks for a loaf of bread, or a serpent to the son who asks for a fish"? So we ask, as sons, for deliverance, for years.... and we get dead silence, because "He loves so much"? Jesus said, "Love one another as I have loved you." And how did He do that? With compassion and power to heal, and deliver. But all we have is the compassion. He didnt equip us with power, so that we CAN "love one another", as He loved us! Inasmuch as God allows suffering, even to the point of us wanting to take our own lives, He wills it, when He could otherwise intervene in the circumstances that bring us to that point, but He does not, because He WILL not.
Dan Keane you have to forgive and recieve love and peace. God is kind and patient to those who sin that they would come to repentance. Hurt people hurt people. You and I aren't the only ones in the world who have gotten hurt. The people who hurt us are just as deserving of love and forgiveness themselves. We aren't any better than them.
God does love you! And although we think we are hearing silence we are not. God is able to be in any room without us even feeling it. When I was younger maybe a freshman in high school I wanted to kill myself. It was over something stupid I just didn't feel well liked at all. And in that moment alone in my house completely ready to end my life through tears streaming down my face. I had a small voice in my head telling me don't. So I listen to it and I didn't . No one even knew I was that depressed and everyone would've been shocked. But God was with me in that moment. And I wasn't even a true Christian at that point I was completely rebelling against him. But he chose me from the beginning and loved me anyway. Just like he loves you and works things for your good. You may be in a bad place right now but he wants to be with you and help you in the place you're in. I encourage you to really talk to God pray to him. Late at night in your room when no one else is around. Be honest with him tell him everything because he knows what you're thinking anyway. He wants a relationship with you more than you know. You are still here because God wants you here he is not done with you. Again he still loves you let him do his will in your life. If you need someone to talk to you I am here anytime. I'm sure anyone else in the comments would be willing to talk to you as well. Just know you are far from alone and as a brother in Christ we all love you. We don't have the answers to everything because God's ways are higher than our ways. But know that everything done is for God's glory and our good. And we have to trust in that.
Dan Keane I sympathize I've been hurt and tormented personally some things I couldn't tell people for years and when I did it hurt even more. I didn't feel like they took it well during to the severity. But God is faithful. Draw near to Him you can't carry it alone. I encourage you to go to someone who is a believer and ask them to help you with thos thing that's hurting you. You have to verbally bring it out. And ask God to intervene. The reason why someone should be there is because they can help you through prayer to bind the pain of the memory and forgive the person that hurt you or people. Idk you but I know deep pain and despair. I suffered a lot through life. God can handle what you throw at Him. Dont be afraid because He is for you. Repent of your distrust and put your little faith in Him and He will work it all out for your good.
I can definitely empathize with you. I had daily suicidal thoughts for 25 yrs. It was something I just accepted that I would have to deal with for the rest of my life. There were screaming voices telling me how worthless I was, how it was going to be easy to get rid of me and to just do it since no one loved me anyway and had nothing to live for. (I was taking anti depression meds all this time as well) My life up until that point definitely fit the..bearing hurt fruit..he mentioned in the video. Ten yrs ago, I had a spiritual deliverance where a minister prayed for me, put oil on my forehead and after the meeting, I didn't hear those voices anymore, and stopped taking the meds. Depression, anxiety and suicidal thoughts aren't just in the mind, they definitely have a spiritual element. The demonic wants to keep you in that state of despair and hopelessness; it definitely wants you to believe that God doesn't care and isn't willing to help. But those are all lies. But there's a certain ongoing "maintenance" that I have to keep up too such as...music & movies I don't watch or listen to any longer..people I don't associate with anymore, places I don't frequent any more; Not out of fear, but it's more like spiritual health. For example, you wouldn't go to a pizza place or donut shop if you're trying to lose weight. I agree with the commenter here who said to talk with a believer about what you're going through. And have them pray for you. Read Psalms if you can (I didn't want to read the Bible at any time during my spiritual oppression). Ask the Holy Spirit to give you guidance and discernment regarding your spiritual health. You're not alone my friend.
Monkey Baby thank you for your thoughtful reply....
+adria harris..I read your suggested bible selections..very interesting..these bible people had a hard time figuring out Who God was. Your Malachi selection talks about the wicked people in chapters 1 and 2 and then Gods solution in chapters 3 and 4 was to send them Jesus to straighten them out. That was Good! But Your seccond selection is very questionable. Paul says..it is God who Chooses who will be wicked or good. He chooses a person to be wicked and then punishes them for it. The way Paul describes it..we Have No choice. That totally negates free will. They are very different solutions. I don't know which one you believe..because they are very different. I think Paul was a crackpot.
+BowRain Meme.. I thought about it..you are right. There are some Things I hate too..but not people.
1:36 you can't claim that if you're Calvinist. It was, in Calvinism, God's "sovereign will" caused it. So surely He won't be saying "it's against my will, don't do that"
Brandon, you beat me to making this obvious point -- _"you can't claim that if you're Calvinist."_
Pipey the Evil should just have left this ridiculous contradiction in his theology alone.
Some of the greatest damage to YHWH has come from recipes trying to place an Eternal Infinite Creator in a box such as Calvin or Luther..
Yeshua explains this in the letters to the seven churches in the Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ..
Sardis of chapter 3:1-6 describes the age of church history called the reformation and Jesus has nothing good to say to it
It is God's soverign will that we use our own free will, but God is so far above that that he can even use the wickedness in our hearts and our will for His own glory, and for the good of all people.
There's a difference in possible meanings for the "will of God".
I'm saying this in love, because I am a survivor of sexual abuse myself. He can still claim that. The over-arching will of God is to glorify God. The abuser is still not doing the will of God [individually as his/her own person] by sinning against the abused and Himself. Knowing that, and knowing how much God detests and loathes and cries out for us not to sin, and unless the abuser is fully committed to their wickedness, the Lord's will is that they do not sin against him. To that end the Lord puts a way out before them (as he does for all who sin). Thus, yes, said person may still commit that grievous wrong (against the will of God and against the other person), but the will of God in both their lives still stands and will come to fruition. In simple terms, God hates sin. God wills that we NOT sin against him. We sin against him. He knows we will and works out his purposes in our lives sovereignly, in order to magnify His glory and our work for our good. Yes, some few will repent and be saved, and a greater number will perish in darkness. I have hope that my abusers are in Christ now, and like them, I have had to repent of my sin. I could blame my abusers, but in the end, I'm also a sinner being sanctified daily. Think on 2 Thessalonians 1. Don't get so caught up in the calvinism/not a calvanist distraction that you miss the truth here.
Amen
God doesn't disappear like that
So... the Sovereign, awesome, all powerful, all knowing, all present God COMMANDS the abuser(s) to stop and these guys don't give the slightest concern, and what does this God do with ALL his abilities against something that he "hates" to protect a child, an orphan? Pretty much sweet nothing that is perceivable in this dimension.
"Hey, move on! All things have been made new! Jesus love YOU, have a Bible! Read it! Believe Him or you'll go to Hell! Pray for your enemies! Forgive! The Holy Spirit weeps over us when we sin. Jesus commands us to rejoice always!"
Don't these "kind" evangelists know that they are talking not to, but at the ones who have been afflicted, through no wrong of their own?
Hey, if this God is so powerful, why don't x'tians take on the fight for the victims? Have as much faith as the size of a mustard seed, makes a mountain move into water, right? Matt 17:20 "and nothing shall be impossible unto you."
Oh no, "the battle belongs to the lord", (who is all-present but is seated at the right hand of the Father. Got it). The "Kingdom, Power and Glory" are Jesus' forever and ever amen. Yet His people are "hard pressed on all sides", but that's cool.
Sometimes I wonder just how did we come to believe this. Then I remember that Lucifer didn't care about it either, so much so that he walked off with one third of the angels and God lets them go; the "enemy" came to sow "tares" and God allows the "tares" to grow amongst their crop because he gives rain to both the good and the evil.
And it gets more intense, Lucifer will rule for 1000 years and God's not scrapping that, despite ALL His powers. Let's just ponder on that for a moment.
Are these prophecies bigger than God then? This doesn't compute but seems to be so.
Agreed. Thank you for saying this
It is Much Better to Focus on Gods Love for you..than on Gods Hatred for Anything.. I do Not Believe God Hates. I believe that is a gross misrepresentation of God. I Never Need to think of Him hating..as the OT people did or as this man recommends.
kathleen Wharton God hates sin but not people
Never people. But He hates sin because it separates those He loves from Him
His love is why Jesus died for us but remember even as Jesus was on the Christ, God turned away (not from His sin who He loves but the sin that was suddenly upon Jesus). Never let anyone tell you God hates people but never be fooled into thinking God loves the evil we do or think
Stay blessed and never let man convince you. read His word and talk to Him yourself. The issue is we sometimes pray and walk away without listening for answers. If someone had all the answers and we came with questions but walked away before He could share the answers and next steps, that would be pretty silly and not a god relationship with all
Praying you have a strong relationship with Jesus! And also for anyone who reads this!
Again like with all Christian apologetics, there is always these false scenarios and you have to solve a rubric Cube of thought to associate with god. God hates, yet God never intervenes, he is apparently no so sovereign, that he can assist? The truth is - He simply does Not care.
Religion is just false….
1:36 Contrary to God's moral will...
unclevroomvroom So God abhores what God causes to happen. Sounds like a schizophrenic god.
Apparently, its to glorify himself, even though God is sovereign, complete and universal, he needs to allow someone to be raped, tortured and murdered to be glorified
@@damianwhite9058 that kinda sounds abusive
+I'm standing with Standing Rock..you do not understand. The "scripture" contradicts itself. Jesus Came to Correct the OT people..they gravely and grossly misrepresented God. And instead of people recognizing Jesus Correction to the OT people..you try to believe both. Jesus taught us and Showed us that God Does Not Hate. The OT is full of error. It is they and this man who are misrepresenting God. It is not an accusation..it is a fact..if you Believe Jesus. Which I do.
+Nicole Wong..I know your belief is the standard Christian belief..But I am not a standard Christian. I am a follower of Jesus and Him..Alone. I don't believe many things in the bible. So I am not convinced. Jesus did Not Hate. He was angry when He corrected the Pharisees and He wept on another occasion. Never did He display or mention Hating. You are talking about your OT God..and i certainly never thought Jesus loved evil. He said to Forgive..not to Hate. Jesus Never recommended Hating anything. This mans presentation..I could not even listen to the end..he looked and sounded like the Devil..Himself.
crazy people
im sure he does haha! he doesnt like competition at all... only if its christians doing it to me its ironically ok
Jesus is "The Prince of Peace" and He does not hate. You teach Antichrist.
kathleen Wharton
“The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.” Psalm 11:5
God hates sin, not sinners
Malachi 1:2; Romans 9:13
Amen