Mistakes: I've made a few... [video 545]
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2023
- You know how they say that you never really get better at something, you just get better at hiding your mistakes? Well in this video I’m going to ‘fess up to some real howlers that I made during the drawer cabinet build earlier in the year, and also show you how I resolved them. Enjoy!
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I think this is brilliant. Too much of online content now is this carefully curated view of the world where everyone thinks that everyone else is perfect. I think it leads people to give up and not even try. Showing it all, including the warts, is so refreshing and so real. Bravo!
Thank you! 👍
Transparency is good for the soul. Thanks for sharing. “Howlers” is my middle name when it comes to projects. I used to get angry and disappointed with myself. Now I just laugh it off. Reset and fix, remake, and pray.
You just made a whole load of people feel so much better about their own efforts. Please accept these thanks from one if them!
Thank you, I will! 👍👍
Seeing you point out the mistakes and as you say, how you get over them, makes me feel a lot better about my own work. Everything takes 3 times as long because I make it, see the issues/mistakes and then mess about trying to rectify them only to realise I need to start all over again because it now looks like a dogs dinner! I have started to call it prototyping!!!
Thank you! 👍
Haha you're not alone mate 😂
Prototyping! I love it!
I'm only making "prototypes" at the moment!
If I didn’t show my mistakes then I’d have no content! 😂 it’s nice to see that even a seasoned pro like you has the odd mishap, makes us hobbyists and beginners feel much better about ourselves.
Thanks so much for being willing to share your mistakes. The world of UA-cam always makes things look easy and it’s not very often things go so smoothly in real life. It’s easy to lose confidence in your own abilities when all you see on the screen is perfection.
Thank you! 👍
Yes we all make mistakes but few own up to them
I used PU glue for the first time normally use Pva - oh I put too much on - bit of a leaning curve I think
Loved the "issues" video. I've seen others incorporate their mistakes, yet others do "Technical Difficulties" at the end. Either way, truth is better than perfection because it helps newbies know we're doing just as fine as the big-named folks. Thanks, sir!
Best lesson ever! We all make mistakes but the craftsman knows how to recover from them. Maybe someday I’ll be a craftsman… 🤓
I've found that I've become a much better wood worker making mistakes and then rectifying them rather than starting again whenever possible. I read somewhere that you've done a good job of it if you have to pint out your mistakes and a perfect job if you point them out and people still can't see it.
That’s quite profound! 👍
The timing of this video is impeccable. I just put down my tools and gave up for the night because I made a drawer with no bottom. Thanks for adding some company to my misery. Good to know I'm not alone.
Sometimes walking away is the best solution; tomorrow is another day. 👍
It's always good to show mistakes. I appreciate it, makes me feel less "unique"! I also learn a lot from how we overcome them. Someone once said that the primary skill of a woodworker was knowing how to cover up mistakes. I believe that.
Any fool can make mistakes, but it takes a craftsman to resolve them. Thanks Mr Peter, just shows you are human after all 😂
Thank you! 👍
No, not a pity party Peter. Good to see your solutions!
We've all done the same / or worse
Thank you so much. I feel much better now seeing a pro mess up and fix his errors. I really enjoy your videos.
Thank you! 👍
I’m really glad you did this video, not only is it healthy but entertaining and educational. Kudos.
Thanks! 👍
In the middle of my drawer project and making at least one mistake a day. Grooves in the wrong side of the drawer being the latest. Good job it’s only going in my garage. Thank you Peter for showing that you are human.
Cheers Gordon! 👍
We always see the flaws in our work, even though everyone else sees perfection. Knowing this doesn't help me feel any better when I make a bone-headed mistake 😂. I do applaud you for showing yours, it makes your content relatable to the rest of us as most on the internet would not.
Thanks! 👍
It was encouraging seeing that someone else makes mistakes, can admit to them and rectify. I am 84, still woodworking and enjoying it but do seem to make more mistakes now. I have found that it is often possible to turn a mistake into a feature, sometimes a decidedly improving feature. Bob Ross the American artist said “ there are no mistakes just happy accidents”. The sign of a really competent craftsman shows up in their ability to solve problems.
I have recently started making a trapezoid-shaped sideboard for my balcony. I have made the bottom and the side and the top. Unfortunately I made the rabbits for the top the same as for the bottom, but they had to be on the other side of top sheet.
I do have another. It's not about woodworking. It is just to show my stupidity. I drove to my uncle from my grandmother's place to give him some vegetables from my grandmother. I gave him the vegetables and walked home (because we live close by). After a few hours I had to drive somewhere. I walked outside and I couldn't find my car. I thought someone had stolen it ;DD It took me a few seconds to remember where was my car.
Publishing some of the members only content, months after the exclusive access, is brilliant. I don't think I've seen that done on other channels. If you don't mind my mentioning it 🙂
Thank you! Hope you liked it! 👍
I love when "professionals" show us their errors/botches it makes the rest of us ordinary DIY/woodworkers feel a lot less like a bunch w&nkers for the botches that we make. Cheers Peter 🏴 👍
Thank you!
The only sure way to avoid making mistakes is to do nothing.
I have an IT background where finding and fixing mistakes is part of the process, because as the saying goes there's no bug free software, there's only software with undiscovered bugs.
I dislike the creators who show only perfect items, because I know they're lying to me by skipping the very interesting part - how they fix their errors.
Thank you for being a honest creator, Peter.
Thank you! 🙌👍
As an apprentice I was often told not to show the mistakes I made, certainly don't tell whoever was buying it. Just pretend that they are not there. Only another woodworker would notice. I was always of the opinion that I couldn't cheat the paying customer, It's dishonest, and I am always proud of what I make. Nice to hear you say the same. Thanks for showing us that even the Gods make them.
Thank you! 🙌
I actually have more respect for you because you're honest about mistakes. It happens to all of us and discussing how you recovered is good.
Thank you!
Don't take this wrong, but I was so HAPPY to see you make those mistakes. You are way ahead of me in woodworking, but still do what I do way to often. And these are difficult to repair so thanks for showing how you climbed out of this.
Thanks! I think that’s the most important part, showing how to get out of the jam you got yourself into! 😂👍
Thank you for sharing this! When I start to make something I always tell my self "make it look like some one else made it"
The old saying, the difference between a professional woodworker and an amateur woodworker is the ability to hide your mistakes.
I prefer to think of them as challenges, mistakes can always be fixed.
I've lost count of the number of times a mistake, or the recovery from it, can actually enhance a piece....It is my ability to convince my self of that fact, that has developed into my greatest skill. I always acknowledge a UA-camr who fesses up to the odd slip, thanks for posting.
Thank you! 👍
I've noticed that the longer I go between projects, the more mistakes I make. Thanks for showing your mistakes. It is nice to see your thought process on fixing things. I think dealing with things that go wrong may be the most useful/interesting part of build videos and usually left out.
It would be less enjoyable without a mistake now and then! Figuring out how to correct them is part of what makes it more fun!!!
Always! 👍
I really enjoy, or find solace in seeing the people I admire share their mistakes because it helps beat back the imposter syndrome that I deal with.
And bad mistakes - I've made a few - I've had my share of kickback on the table saw
But I've come through...
We are wood workers my friends...And we'll keep on wood working till the end...
And there was me thinking you were perfect! Well, I still think your work is 😂! Also it’s nice to see that you are human too and another great video, thank you, you just gave thousands of viewers some hope!
Thanks Peter, for showing us hobbyist woodworkers that even a pro can make a mistake once in awhile.
My last project was making some boxes for storage in my shop. Basically open cabinets with back, but no doors. I was assembling the tops and bottoms to sides, using my Domino. I was mindful that tops and bottoms should be fastened between the sides (end panels). And thanks for pointing that out in another video!
I got so mixed up about which side of each piece to reference the cuts from (inside face, or outer face), plus whether I was plunging into surfaces, or panel ends (edges), not to mention which cuts were standard width, and which were wider fit. After a few mistakes, I finally resorted to making detailed pencil notes on each piece!
These storage boxes were for my basement shop, mounted high on walls, so a few incorrect mortises got hidden by facing them up on those panels, at the top of the cabinet. Only I know they are there! 😊
That’s all that matters! 👍👍
All my hobby projects are filled with avoidable mistakes like this. I get so cross as myself, put my tools down then have to come back. I really appreicate you showing these. Often UA-camrs present a perfect project and that can be demoralising when you come to try it yourself and hit road blocks.
Thank you! 👍
Avoidable mistakes are the hallmark of bespoke furniture❤
There’s a bloke that makes “square’e’nough” squares might wana give him a look for pointers 🎯🤦🏻🤣
Ah Peter, this just backs up what people think of you on here, a decent honest bloke, free to share his experiences, really enjoyed that mate !
Haha, thanks! 👍
Well done Peter, thanks for your honesty.
Mistakes are what makes us human.
A lucky man live you can "repair" the mistakes 😉
But at least you did it, ‘Your Way.’
Peter, It’s never too late for ADD pills. I’m 48 and just started 🤭. Seriously, thank you so much for comforting me. As a beginner, it is sometimes frustrating to make so many of these mistakes. But it is warming to see that even the pros need to catch up because they screw up. Thanks again !
Yes , your right , in this world of online sites , it seems nobody makes mistakes ….!
Yes they do , even a master like you Peter ….
Thanks for sharing , it makes us all feel like where not that bad after all !😅👍👍👍👍
10 minute workshop …. Ace ….👍👍👍
Thanks Ted! 👍
As a former teacher of Craft, Design & Technology in a secondary school, I always felt that the greatest skill one needed to possess was the ability to "salvage" students practical work that had gone awry - so I am fully appreciative of your recovery skills. 😀
Thank you! 👍
I’ve been woodworking for over 45 years and, of course, mistakes happen. They happen to everyone - the skill is knowing what the mistake was and not repeating it.
In my case, it’s almost always not a question of lack of skill/knowledge or lack of quality/ accuracy of my tools; it’s usually my mental and physical tiredness. Although retired, I have more projects than I could dream of - including the 2nd fix plus doors, door frames, skirting, window boards, picture rails plus full height panelling on one room for a 500 square metre house - all in solid oak. Then, for the same house, a lot of furniture including tables of all sorts, bookcases, pews. And I am still getting the requests from family for a “quick” this or that.
The lesson I’ve learnt is to completely ignore the feelings of guilt when I have to go and sit down for a rest. I can no longer work for 8 hours a day solid. I know that I were to carry on when my back aches or my thinking is fuzzy, then mistakes will happen. Peter referred to a “late Friday afternoon” mistake - that is a great euphemism for when you are just past your tired limit .
Great saying from Arts and Crafts era - Precision and Patience lead to Perfection.
That is a great saying, thank you! 🙌👍
I appreciate you showing this...somewhat encouraging for a duffer like me. I have been woodworking for a long time and still make a mistake or two on every project. Some turn out to be design features.
Every project needs a ‘design feature’ 👍😆
Show me a man who never made a mistake, and I'll show you a man who never made anything! Great video, thank you Peter, hope you are well
Cheers Paul, and all good here thanks, hope you are too! 👍
Peter the kind of guy you want to have as a neighbour 😁👍
That’s not what my neighbours say after a summer of building work… 😬
Thank you for being so honest, you didn’t have to tell us this, but my God it makes me feel better and I’m glad it’s not just only me as I thought 😅😅😅😅
Honestly, it was a pleasure to unburden myself! 😂👍
fantastic, keeps things real
Thanks! 👍
I'm just taking a break from fixing a very similar mistake (miscutting a solid maple board that was supposed to have continuous grain across the drawer fronts) to watch you excellent video. I didn't bother to mark out the blanks with lots of tape and pencilled triangles. I thought I could keep track of it all. Hah! Thanks again, Peter.
Nothing more to add but "thanks"! 👍
Pleasure! Kind of… 🤷♂️😂👍
who does not make mistakes, still turned out great, no one (except you) will ever notice that the grain matches perfectly, like the way you react and not over react
Thanks! 👍
We've all been there. All the cabinets in my kitchen are a few mil shorter than I intended as I spent a whole day with my rail fractionally out of square...!
The only people who don't make mistakes are people who don't make anything.
Been there many times. Thanks Peter for sharing.
The internet is full of fake perfection, not just in woodworking. It leaves people thinking less of themselves. So YES it is absolutely okay to show us some of your imperfections.
Remember: Measure twice, cut once. (or my personal version, measure thrice)
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Fantastic that you are good enough to post a vid like this and show that, sometimes, even the expert's best made plans just go t**ts up. I'm sure there are hundreds of weekend carpenters out there, like me, thinking, yeah, I did that. As you say, the important thing is how you deal with the mistake. Thanks.
Thanks 👍
My night school woodwork teacher used to say "don't call them mistakes, call them features" while at work in my day job I used to say "don't look on it as a mistake, tell people it's an opportunity to find a solution"
Thanks for sharing Peter! We all do it all the time :)
You bet! 🤦♂️👍😂
Perfect admission that we all occasionally are less than perfect. As you say.. it's what comes next that defines the work, the person, the organisation.
I think we are all glad to see that we are normal and i thank you for sharing it with us.
We all make mistakes but as long as we can learn from them, then we've learned a valuable lesson. It happens. It's nice to see even professionals make mistakes just like anyone else.
Indeed we do! 👍
Couldn't of timed this video better 😅 had a mare installing a record vice revently.. got there in the end. Good to see how the pros get over the errors
Two things… a Swiss cabinetmaker told me forty-five years ago a mistake is something that can’t be fixed. As apprentices, they had to compile a notebook of their mistakes and why “it” happened so they would only make them once. The best students were those with the thickest notebooks. And, number two, you still some smaller Baltic birch pieces to work with. JSK Koubou provides many UA-cam videos utilizing such smaller
pieces.
Ahh the wonders of editing 😂
In all honesty I think your videos are fine without showing every little mistake. But it's good to see the 'It'll be alright on the night' bloopers in a separate video. It shows you're human. 👍🏻
Thank you so much 😀👍
I've been a hobby woodturner for about 10 years and I've learned so much from the howlers that I made and continue to do so.
I made some Millard-style fitted wardrobes last year. Biggest project I’d ever done. Massive things across the whole room. Took my time on breaking the sheets down and the dowel assembly, got them all perfect, but i fitted the hardboard backs to the carcasses as a rough fit, face down; and routed the excess off with a trim router. That seemed to me a quick way of doing it on these massive wardrobes. It was clearly stupid though as it meant I couldn’t guarantee the carcasses were square. Which of course they now wernt. I glued them all up and fitted them together on the plinths, screwed them down, made the scribed trim, went to fit the doors and realised my mistake. I had made parallelograms not rectangles. 😡😡😡. I had to trim the doors all skewiff (Millard term) to correct the error and I’ve never swore so much in my life. You’d never know to look at them, but man that was 12 months ago and I’m still fuming each time go in the room. The amount of headaches that caused. And I saved maybe 5 minutes over track-sawing the backs to the correct dimensions and fitting them.
lol, I have made the parallelogram mistake
Classic! We’ve all been there - and it always hurts the most when it’s something you have to look at daily! 🤷♂️👍
Well recovered! I think I'd have taken the evening off to drink tea and question my life choices.
Oh, I did that too! And thanks! 😂👍
Pity party has a confession corner obviously. Drilling through a finished tabletop twice 😢
😂👍
Hullo Peter
A few weeks ago, I assembled an IKEA wardrobe for a client.
I was putting the last 10 or so nails in the back and I realised the white side was facing outwards. And those nails are ring shanks, so they are difficult to get out without damaging the laminate.
Later on in the same job I drilled a lovely 4.5mm hole for the handle - in the hinge side of the door! The closest IKEA to Walton on Thames is Reading, about an hour away. Sheesh
So easily done as well Michael! At least it wasn’t bespoke! 😂👍
Been there! Stood in the workshop thinking "how is that not square?" Working out how to move forward from mistakes is often more complicated than the initial build.
Yep! 👍
As a person who almost never marks parts at all thinking how hard is it to keep track…. That’s why I’ve never even considered “grain matching”
A couple of mm out is fine to use mere mortals Peter! The trick is don't tell anyone. Only Robin Clevett would notice! 😂
😂😂👍
I actually always appreciate showing the mistakes and the fixes because it really helps; if I run into a similar situation, on being able to work through the problem to fix it.
I'll join the pity party. I'm toward the tail-end of working on a slab table and benches. I have never built a table and benches before, let alone out of slabs of Hackberry. I have genuinely made a mistake on virtually every part of the build. From the cutting and gluing, the planing, the epoxy filling, and now the epoxy top. I have had to work around things every step of the way. It's frustrating, but I know when I go to do another I will be able to do the things I messed up this time, correctly.
Thanks! How did the table and benches look in the end? They work out OK? 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop almost done. It’s been really slow going. Hoping one more epoxy pour and connect the legs and be done.
Hi Peter, A good honest video, we all make things and some time it goes pair shaped and no body dose that more than me. Live and learn in my case i'm living and definitely learning I thought I get I right by now . Thanks for this video I don't feel too bad now
Great video, take care
Thanks Shaun! Honestly, it happens so often it’s the norm. 👍👍😂
We are all human, and anyone who claims never to have made a mistake is…….. mistaken or lying ! I feel vindicated now, having seen you rectifying your “oversights”. Great work😊
Thanks! 👍
Once put the 5th mirror in a set of doors the wrong way showing the back of the mirror to the world. Used my tracksaw to cut out the mirror from the frame and reverse it
Got to love a tracksaw! 👍
we all make mistakes. It's a good man who knows of a mistake Its a great man who will put up his hand and say he has made a mistake. Great video's Peter thanks for taking the time
Thanks Robert! 👍
Well that was very honest of you Peter, I hope you feel better for that ! 😉😁
It's so often the case, you take hours to plan and cut the parts to size, then decide to get a wiggle on or just lose concentration for a moment and boom it's all gone off piste, much better a small (albeit annoying) cosmetic fault than injuring yourself though, which is an alternative scenario ! ☝🚑😬
Thank you! 👍
They say the main difference between pro's and amateur's; how well they handle mistakes (handle as in cover up or "correct").
For your drawer front problem; a possible solution that I have employed once or twice (I ain't tellin' how many times! LOL), Cut a groove all the way across, including, at least, the right hand drawer. Then glue in an accent piece (coloured MDF again?) so now it becomes a design element. Maybe even expand it to three insert with three different width. Or coloured epoxy, or LED light bar. It ain't a wart if it's a beauty mark. :^D
There have been days I've considered giving up on woodworking because of some whoppers I've made. sigh....
Thanks! 👍
It's refreshing to see a professional admit to some mistakes. I just accidently cut a 1.5 inch hole in the wrong place. Fortunalely this time is for a jig.
Easily done! 👍
Thank you for giving us a warts-and-all view, it makes me feel better. Nearly completed my first big project using the peanut jig system, which is primed and cocked, ready to catch you out. My Mafell plunge saw not quite cutting vertical, combined with having to route new keyholes, made the job twice as long as it should have been. I don’t use a hinged rail so faff about a bit more with it. My plunge saw has been back for service but still seems to leave an edge that is 89deg. I can set it at 1deg to compensate, but just thought it was ok now after returning it for work. Also, the scribe plunge is a PITA😂 Had to cut two keyholes on one edge, as my shelves are sat in by 20mm and I forgot when I routed the sides, using the normal drop pin 🤦♂️
Oh yes! Been there too! 😂👍
Smile😁, been there done that, done that. Sometimes,you learn more from your oppses.
I was helping a boy with his Eagle project. He was building a wardrobe for a Ronald McDonald house for people to store their belongings in. We had cut everything out and the final assembly of adding the doors was not working The doors were way out of square. After everyone went home I worked to create a new set of doors. What I figured went wrong, is that we did not seat the rail tightly when we cut the door square with my TSO right angel rail square attachment. Lesson: lift an flop the rail when squaring it up to make sure it is square.
One I did recently was not squaring the side panels on a carcass I was building. Both side panels had a slight down slop to the front of the cabinet. My drill press now has a new stand base with a convent down slop to the front. Lesson: Make sure your panels are tight against the back rail on your MFT.
Always! 👍
Hi Peter you have helped me so much I was really interested in purchasing a plunge saw but at the end of the day I went for the evolution as I could it with or with out the track most of the low end units appear to lacking depth with the track
Been using the Evolution and have been using it with a 40tpi blade - so far very please
Thank you I love watching your videos
Thanks Peter. Glad I’m not the only one making bonehead mistakes.
You may need to look up this reference. But to quote Al Bundy. “There’s no mix up a sander can’t fix up !
I would have taken that drawer mistake and made it a feature. Duplicate it on all the drawers and add a bit of colored MDF as an inlay.
That's a very creative solution! Takes an artistic soul in addition to skill to come up with.
Thanks! Yes, many of the Plus members suggested that, but I’d have to do it on every drawer front - seemed simpler to just replace the middle two. 👍
Peter, made the same mistake on a small book shelf, that Festool came to my aid. Thank you for sharing.
I took up wood work in my late sixties, love every bit of it.
Ps I am Great Grand Ma
Thank you Jane, and congratulations! 👍
Confessions of a closet maker. I'm sure these films were popular in the 70's....
😂😂 Confessions of a driving instructor; do you know the way to Oldham..? 🤷♂️
It's reassuring to see that even your good self can fluff stuff up. Similarly in one his PARF how to videos Mr Peter drilled a hole in the wrong place. It shows us viewers that there's always mistakes, and nearly always fixes.
I'm guessing that you being out of practice left you working at your normal pace but with the edge off your performance. One reminder for us hobbyists and occasional diyers is, slow, methodical, treble check. It's expensive in time but we tend to lack the skills, supplies & money for a remake or repair. So it's better to take it steady, label things a lot, etc. Masking tape may be good for labelling, as there's less sanding off!
A DIY example I've experienced over the years is that by the time you finish wallpapering a room you'll almost be good at it (again). With plenty of time to forget how before you next do any. 🤷♂️🧙♂️
Usually my big screw up is getting out of bed 🤣
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School boy mistakes, you naughty boy Peter! Watta mistakah to makah....
I'm making four simple boxes to store towels and bathroom items. I have cut a couple of sheets of mdf down to the size boards I need and marked them up with which face should be inside/outside. Where all the peanut fixings should go etc, but I then left them hanging around for a month as I kind of got anxiety about all the simple mistakes I can make during the process of routing and assembling the boxes. I am literally assembling them in my head daily and working through all the possible mistakes I can make. I have ploughed on with plenty of other projects, but I'm stuck on this one. Guess I should just crack on with it and work through any mistakes if and when they happen. If it turns out to be a potential I've made a few mistakes video in my head, well so be it.
Thanks for this. It's why I avoid pens and only use pencils which have erasers on them.
Hi Peter, some days it’s just turning the key in the workshop door! LOL
Steve
True that, Steve! 😂👍
i have been there!! rick
I think the key point you need to take care of is get up from the right side of the bed In the morning!! 😂😂
😂😂 Absolutely! 👍👍
Bubble burst..!!! …I’d just drafted a proposal for you to spend the winter in the Bahamas doing a none time critical replacement of two chopping boards - in the galley of my super yacht on an unsupervised fill your boots -time and materials basis…!!!! Now I’m not so sure…😂😂😂
Aww, man; one chopping board and we may have had the conversation, but two? TWO?? 🤷♂️😂👍
Cock-ups are part and parcel of the game, unfortunately. Years ago I offered to help a carpenter friend who was fitting some newel posts to a client's stair case. I cut the notches to straddle the stringers on my new bandsaw. My mate returned later and announced that none of the newels fitted because all the cuts were skewed. That's when I remembered that I had used the saw to under cut some trim pieces, and had forgotten to reset the table! Resolving the problem called for some serious skill.....I went to the timber merchant and replaced all of them with new ones. Ouch!
Ouch indeed! But sometimes it’s the only way! 👍👍
I definitely enjoyed this. Let me contribute my own recent mistake.
I tapered one of the legs on a cherry coffee table on the wrong side. All of the legs have two tapers facing the inside. I tapered one leg with one of the tapers facing the outside. Unfortunately I didn't notice the error until well after glue-up so it can't be fixed. The odd thing is that it is not obvious to a casual observer and even fooled me for a few days. I think the reason is that curves fool the eye. If I had the tabletop even slightly out of alignment or if the legs had been straight and one slightly thicker than the others I would have noticed it immediately. But curve those legs and you can (almost) get away with even a major error. So the table will not be in the living room but will be consigned to the upstairs office. Still pretty to look at even with a bum leg.
PS: I have never made anything without some error mostly fixable though.
Classic! 🙌
Well... As an old and wise man once said... Shit happens. 😬
A good idea is to mark the parts with blue tape and write on it with a thick pen, instead of marking directly in the wood, Peter. Because, this way, it's much more easy to spot the right side. 😉
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Always, always mark face side, face edge, and stick to your own rule about orientation, i.e. face side inside, face edge to the front (or back), may I suggest.
I was doing a 'modification' to an existing IKEA (sorry) tv/media unit. I'd bought a new surround sound amp that was slightly too deep for cabinet. I decided to remove the flimsy hardboard back, glue it to a sheet of mdf, cut out a port to accommodate the amp and all its cables then remount the more robust back panel. After much marking out, measuring, remeasuring, careful cutting and sanding, I offered up the new panel in all its glory, it slipped beautifully into place. And none of it lined up. Not even close. I don't know what I did wrong. I had to cut out an even bigger (gaping hole) rectangle. Not the finessed bespoke solution I was hoping for. I call it a practise piece.
You always need a test piece. 👍