I Tried Learning "Tumeni Notes" in 1 DAY. Here's What Happened...
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I Tried Learning "Tumeni Notes" by Steve Morse in 1 DAY.... Here's What Happened...
This may be my worst idea ever for a video, hahaha.... Tumeni Notes is one of the hardest feats of alternate picking shred strength of all time. Can I tackle it??? Lets find out... Steve Morse's crosspicking powers are unmatched. Mine are... untested, at best! I'm gonna bring you all along for the ride as I try and master the legendary intro of this song. We are gonna talk technique, alternate picking, building speed, speed bursts, alternate solutions like sweep and hybrid picking, and even get a super closeup in depth slo mo look at the picking hand using the amazing Troy Grady (Cracking the Code) Magnet Cam! I learned a lot about my own picking and playing in this video, I can't wait for you all to see what I found!
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Hello Ben, you just have to start from square one. I heard Tim Pierce mention you in a video about rhythm in session recording the other day. Glad you’re getting recognized
There’s ads? Where?
The f**k compilation at the beginning is the most accurate depiction of learning new material I’ve seen
😆😆😆
The most accurate depiction of learning -new material- mistakes.
Just spent 3 hours doing this last night trynna play some tech death it’s a borderline religious experience
The longest word in Texas when you flobbed it up?
SSSSSssssshhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiIIIIITTTTTTTTT. I left my guitar cable at home and there isn't an extra for miles around!😢
To think he wrote and performed that in his mid-30s. What a hero. And bravo for even attempting this let alone doing a really good job on it.
whats so special about performing this in his mid 30s???
I learned this piece almost 30 years ago for a Berklee scholarship audition. It took me 9 months to learn it. Couldn't play it now to save my life.
Man I hope you got the scholarship!
@@MainPrism Sadly, no. They were more concerned with skills like sight reading and my vocabulary of jazz chords, which I had totally neglected in my pursuit of trying to become a speed picking god.
@@mrianboore Damn man that's a bummer, sorry to hear that... If it means anything at all I'm extremely impressed by your determination and resilience. I salute you sir.
this was awesome! Steve has been my #1 fave guitarist for about 40 years now. I saw him play that tune live several times in the 90's and let me tell ya it was mind boggling to see (usually front row at a club, or damn close to front row). I've been tackling that song on and off for over 25 years now and you nailed it WAAAAY better than I could in just one afternoon lol. my basic problem is anatomical. I have smallish hands and shortish fingers which makes it really hard to span those 3 strings so rapidly. Steve has longish fingers and his manner of holding the pick with 2 fingers and thumb with the wrist as fulcrum point he has a much longer reach than i could ever have...for me to span the same distance i have to pivot my wrist waaaaay more. it is frustrating but it's how I is built. That amp is killer btw...I almost bought one but opted for the Engl Savage 120 MKII instead which is a total fucking beast and probably more suited to what I play. Good job Uncle Ben!
I haven't even finished the intro and I need to comment on this. haha.
There are two pieces of music on a guitar that I have never been able to get up to speed, "Tumeni Notes" and "Hangup" by Ron Thal (Bumblefoot) I've been able to play literally every other thing I've ever tried to learn on guitar. I played in a band that covered music from NES and SNES games, and I was able to master those pieces of bleeps and bloops haha. But "Tumeni Notes" is my Everest of guitar playing and I think it might be time to take another swing at it.
Thanks for making this video, I don't know if this is a common format you do where you show the ugly side of learning a challenging piece. How much work and effort goes in and that it takes a lot of mistakes to make it good, but the internet needs more of this. I think too many players think that people are just magic and can play guitar, so when they try and learn they are disappointed to learn that it's actually difficult as hell.
Steve is something else. I mean it. Alien like. Not just the chops....but musicianship and artistry in harmony and melody.
I am not playing anything nearly this complex or challenging, but I have to say, thank you for sharing your struggles, internet guitarists always seem invincible, as do our guitar heroes, so it's nice to see that you have to work at something too. Thanks Uncle Ben, keep shreddin.
Glad to hear that! The struggle is real!
Great stuff. Fascinating to see someone who is a very good guitar player struggling with something and how they work on overcoming that. Very enlightening. Nice one Uncle Ben!
Thanks for the breakdown. I’m not even attempting this any time soon, but I want to tell you that the videos you put up on learning sections of music have helped me immensely. I tend to push too hard and get frustrated. You take on monster riffs with calm and patience piece by piece. It’s a good reminder to chill out, break it down, and don’t give up.
You did a heck of a lot better at playing this monsterous piece than most other people I have seen Ben. The level of difficulty with playing this piece is on another level. Probably in the top three of hardest things i've ever tried to play. Well done!!!
Thank you!
Epic attempt finished by inspiring words of wisdom. You know we’re all going to be cross picking over the weekend 🎸🎸🎸
Hey Ben!👋
Way to keep at it!
I was fortunate enough to have watched Steve Morse play from the front row, just 5 feet away from me, at The Coach House in San Juan Capistrano California, back in January of 2012.
Simply an Amazing show, such a nice guy! Was able to have a conversation with him after the show and got a guitar pick during the show!
When I shook his hand you could feel how strong it was!
A Great night in a small club is the best!🥰🎸
Thanks Ben!👍
Mike in San Diego.🌞🎸🚀🖖
Damn, great effort man. It's a beast of a riff. I never even tried it but Morse is amazing. Cheers.
I love these videos because they make it clear that this is work. Even for accomplished musicians never mind a hack like me.
The epilogue is perfect.
Hi Ben, wow, whatta challenge you set up for yourself! I saw Steve in the early 90s at a clinic and someone in the crowd asked him what was the toughest song of his own to play live. And he said Tumeni Notes, and he specifically said the cleaner section after the section you're learning here. He then demonstrated, and he himself fumbled with it at the time and said it really takes his focus and being warmed up. So, this song even keeps the guy wrote it on his toes. Great job working on it here!
I really love the attention Steve and his music is getting lately! Great video !
Couldn't agree more!
This was really good to watch. It's so motivational seeing a guitar guru like you slowly working up the speed to play a difficult piece. What you said at the end was very important. I'll remember that as I learn to play the difficult Iron Maiden solos that I'm trying to master. I love the epilogue, too! So funny!
Hi Ben, absolutely amazing video. You nailed it.... which I didn't doubt for one second 🙂
Very impressive Uncle Ben. Steve is in that category of musicians where it’s intimidating to even try it, and if I saw you play that in a Steve Morse cover band I would not have felt cheated. Nicely done.
@BenEller I started a new career in another facet of what I have been working at my entire working life. You talk of not getting down on yourself. That is what I have to tell myself, since I haven’t touched everything that this new career is handing me before. I am familiar with it all, so that helps. It’s not like I am a complete novice. It will take time, just like mastering alternate picking Tumeni Notes.
I’ve had the pleasure of sitting basically at Steve Morse’s feet watching him play this and all his amazing music several times. All I could do was laugh out loud at the sight of this kind of material being pulled off flawlessly in a live setting. Kudos for getting that song as close as you did - a Herculean feat. I’m gonna be in hog heaven starting in a few days at Woodshed this week.
Oh man. Great analysis on this and humanizing the process for learning a tank of a song. Years ago, when I moved and 'broke up' with my guitar instructor (best one I've ever had too), I asked him for some material to go after.... He gave me this song, Arpeggios from Hell (Malmstein), and Glasgow Kiss (Petrucci). To this day I've never quite figured out if that was a compliment or just his sick sense of humor
Thanks dude!
This is a big effort - well done. Actually it's very nice played slowly... helps to appreciate it even more. This song is played live in their "Steve Morseband - Live 1990; Full Concert" - the whole thing is worth watching with the volume right up!
Ben, when you started section 2 and every snip was followed with an expletive, you captured the essence of every one of my practice sessions. Great job on this video and way to go in your perseverance!
I’m happy to see you wrestle with some SM. With how many of us axe nerds there are out there I’d have thought more of us would be Morse stans. People seem to talk more about his old stuff more, but I say: hoover his whole oeuvre.
Just saw The Steve Morse Band open up for The Dixie Dregs a few months ago!! It was a fantastic show and he did play Tumeni Notes, a little slower but not by much. He is THE definition of the word virtuoso. Nice work Unc!
One of my favourite videos you've ever done Ben... Would love to see you talk more about directional picking and cross picking and using that camera on the guitar again, awesome stuff 🤘🏻
The dog was scratching itself in time at 160bpm. That deserves a treat.
Turkey is a good boi
When referring to something in the video, please provide us with a time stamp.
Ahh yes ADHD strikes again! Lol
10:37
Steve is an inspiration. I met him at a clinic and it was a big turning point for me. Great work Uncle Ben.
Haha thanks for the shoutout Uncle Ben, love what you do!
A truly beautiful composition by the way.
The Carrie reference was gold.
Literally wanted to learn this the other day! Once again Uncle Ben to the rescue!
Such a great teacher. I can't remember which video it is, but one of the simplest most ingenious and necessary lessons he gives is learning scales HORIZONTALLY as well as vertically. I can't tell you the difference this makes when trying to find the notes of a scale between chords or in "space." If you only practice scales vertically, they make no Fu$%^ing sense when you are at different starting points. Either way....thanks Uncle Ben.
Nice to see the gradual progression of the learning process with the Morse sequence over the course of a few days.
one of the best songs ever done by the Florida GOAT!
I saw him debut it way back - he never disappoints ...
Steve is the GOAT but ever since I first saw him I wondered if his technique would lead to RSI issues. It looked stressful to me. And sure enough, he did eventually have a lot of issues. Enough that he revamped his style. I can't imagine how hard it must be to completely change your approach after so many years of playing a certain way. But the commitment to making music won out. In my mind that makes him even more GOAT. Re Learning a tough part - I like your approach for chunking. One thing I do differently, instead of spending all day on something, I'll quit after a small amount of time and revisit it many days in a row. I find the break really helps cement the muscle memory thing. I also do what I call "deep visualization". Without a guitar in my hands (for example, while walking my dog), I think about the pattern in as much detail as I possibly can, visualizing every right- and left-hand movement and, in particular, thinking about options for finger placement to make big jumps up and down the neck easier. I find I can often come up with a better approach while doing this mental visualizing. Something about holding the guitar makes my hands and brain always do things the same way, but this visualization technique seems to free me up from that. I guess you need a pretty good knowledge of the neck and recognizing intervals in lots of locations to be able to do this, but for me it helps a lot. Your mileage may very 🙂 Anyway - good job! I hope you don't end up needing an arm-hand brace.
11:00 I love that the dog in the background is killing it to the beat. 😂
As someone who started on acoustic and got into fingerstyle before moving to electric and all of this shredder picking stuff, I have to say that the epiphany of being able to change the technique to better suit YOURSELF is something I'm not very used to, it was always sort of a no-brainer with fingerstyle, but I felt picking was way more rigid, but this was a step in the right direction for me!
Very Cool Ben! I Gave it a try and was struggling around 160bpm. Realized depending on the shape of the arpeggios my right hand would desync with the left, so practiced only the right hand alternate picking pattern for a while, and managed to get up to 185 now! The last 25 bpm feels like such a long road ahead !!
Name that riff!!! Party Hard! Andrew W.K. is so much fun to play.
PARTY!!!!
Thanks for posting this. I get so caught up as a newer player not being able to play what I want fast as I expect of myself.
I'm nowhere near the player you are. So it's a great reminder to take my time and just enjoy the ride. I'll get there eventually. 🤘
East Tennessee? I'm an Australian that lived in Knoxville for 3 years around 2000. You're giving me knoxville vibes.
Haha you nailed me! Knoxvillian!
@@BenEller Hell yeah. I went to Webb. Serious culture shock from Australia.
seeing Bens learning journey kinda reminds me that we're all human. kinda grounding in
Love to hear that
I love these kinds of videos. Keep ‘em coming!
Very impressive, cheers Ben 👍
Good job Ben! Morse is a monster player. You should check out Anton Oparin's right hand technique and decide where to go from there. Being a triangle virtuoso is not so bad after all.
Unk is out here going crazy. He’s never played through an Engl before but the Synergy Savage is sitting right behind him! The dementia sure is catching up with fast.
Haha I don’t have any of the synergy Engl stuff!….. yet
Once again...your insight and knowledge win the day. All that and a humble guy> Keep killing it brother. I recently dusted this one off. In my mind, I want to think I had it up to speed once upon an enchanted time...hah!! Reality is telling me that is not the case. Again, thanks for the continued inspiration and instruction!
Other than the Power album he played on for Kansas this was the first song I heard by Steve and was blown away.
Hahaha was I the only one shouting “Go Uncle Ben!” When he finally got to tempo😂… good job… congratulations for getting it close like you wanted.
Great job Ben!
Like you said, there's no way anyone will learn this in one day.
Unless they already have the technique down for alternate picking arpeggios like this that is.
No hacks in the world will get you there quickly but I truly believe anyone willing to put in the time can do it.
I've struggled with this thing for 30 years and could never do it properly (still can't yet). Very recently found that by isolating just the notes on the downstroke and then concentrating on nailing those when playing the full pattern, it seemed to help. Having little, easily followable markers within the fast pattern helped me simplify my thinking and I got fewer air swings and missed notes.
This song got me started playing guitar, i was 11 back then, now 41.
I remember that this song blew my mind back then and I played it on the stereo for weeks
This is the song that I’ve been wanting to play since the beginning. I’m actually getting really close now after practicing it on and off for a year.
This song is on my bucketlist to play straight alternate picking it like Steve Morse my hero! I will get there, I have to, or that kid from the past will be insanely dissapointed.
That section 2 is even more menacing btw 😂
Well done with section 1 👍
I would love to see either you or Mike from The Art of Guitar do a video talking about Trivium's guitar techniques. In your style of breaking down riffs from a album, which that album should be In Waves (my favourite Trivium Album), or Mike just teaching the techniques thate they use. I tried to convince Mike to do that video and he hasn't for unknown reason. Can you please do the video yourself or tell Mike to do it. Please 🙏Also, another amazing video Uncle Ben.
Great playing!
We genuinely need more etudes. Fascinating that drums have them. Derek Roddy and George kollias have great melodic grooves on drums.
Agreed!
Awesome attempt and agree completely on what you mentioned about trying to emulate other people's technique motion by motion. I was surprised to learn that Steve has developed a horrible case of tendonitis and can't play the same way for long periods of time and now needs to approach the guitar differently.
I would also like to see your take on 17th Century chicken picking next
This is what I’m talking about ,Steve Morse is so underrated , he plays the guitar in a different language , I’m a flamenco guitar player , is very hard to break the code 🤙
Using TMNT theme from NES is great. Thank you for that!
It seems, Steve unlocked his inner Yngwie during composing this piece
Indeed! But, the time spent IS adding to your cache of weaponry. To be used in an advantageous future foray into rock n' roll. You have made the effort and found the flaws, and overcome some of those by alternate means, although not alternate picking. 😉
Uncle Ben plays a mean bass and guitar ! I need to step up my game !
Awesome. Good job dude..
Thanks a lot 😊
Steve Morse is a real nice guy. Saw him once at the Iridium in NYC and after show he hung out and talked with people including me. He asked how his tone sounded and if it was too dry. Unfortunately I didn't come up with much to say other than it sounded great to me.
This lesson has pleased the Step all Father🤘
Thanks Uncle Ben ! Always Party HARD !
Always!!!!
They just came out with a 20-watt version of that amp and I want one.
Ben you should try Nuno Bettencourts Warheads solo, its also got some nuts picking
I knew that amp giveaway is us only
But thanks, now i'll try learning that too
I've shouted expletives trying to play a lot less challenging stuff. Well done sir.
Listening to this video while drinking coffee not watching the screen I thought this sounded like gypsy jazz ,almost like a incredible player called Angelo Debarre (check him out, wow) I love those minor arpeggio Neapolitan harmonies Django used in his solos. IT WAS GOOD!
Rockin the Suhr😮
I got to see the esteemed Mr Morse give a guitar clinic at Texas Music Emporium in Houston (well, Spring) around ‘89 or so. His first solo album, High Tension Wires, had just come out. Everyone was pretty geeked about sweep picking and asked him about it. So he showed how he alternate picked arpeggios and could control the timing and dynamics better. But yeah, only Steve can really do that!
I have a few Guitar Player/Guitar World/GftPM interviews of his from around the time. He revealed his *simple* secret to mastery:
In addition to be an insanely talented guitarist, he was a commercial pilot. The airport he flew out of was hours from home (country boy!). He drove a lil’ Ford sumthin’ or other and had a short guitar built. The nut was at the 5th fret (so A-D-G-C-F-a). He’d point the car in the direction of the airport and go wheedly wheedly on that mini-guit for hours while he steered with his knees. Simple. Hahaha
You should ask him to tell that story!
Hello Ben, I've made Tumeni notes my bone chewer of guitar for years, I got a decent right hand, but reaching this speed and accuracy is so hard with standart strings. Steve is from country and probably uses lighter strings to reach that speed. Also, holding the pick with thunb and third finger helps with the rotation of the wrists, like Eddy's style. Just my guess...Keep going on!
lol love it, good stuff Unk. Time to start working on my picking technique💀
Wow Uncle Benny Bob, Awesome lesson,
Unfortunately I have lost muscle memory due to stroke, well actually from stroking with my right hand. (a lot & not while golfing) Indeed practicing some things a lot when you're alone? can be counter productive to your end goal.
So now when I ask hand's muscle memory, remember this? The answer is like.
"Huh? What? I don't know what you're talking about.. No I don't recall. LOL
Thanks Uncle Benny Bob; you never fail to hit the mark.
Seriously cool & difficult licks, Fun , Great advice & and great humor. I truly appreciate that. (like stroking a lot)
10/10 intro :D
Ya that was funny AF
I'll see you at the woodshed!
Beer me!!!
Fantastic video, really enjoyed it and subbed! Would love to see you tackle either:
- Building The Church tapping intro
- Crossroads arpeggios or 5th caprice part
- Symphony of Destruction solo
- Inferno intro by Symphony X
Love those suggestions! I’ve already got a Symphony lesson up on my channel, so that would be cheating ;)
@@BenEller Ah gonna check that out :) Then maybe pick one of the Vai licks, good luck!
Nice work, it is great to see the work process. I came to the same conclusion with the pull off, it is what it is. No where near 200 bpm. Sadly, I think the intro is the easy part of the song and I don't think, if I remember correctly, there is any way around picking every note.
Hell yes! 🤘🏼😸🤘🏼
I remember when that came out. I listened to and said "nope." I was scared then. I'm scared now.
Omg, that Engl would be the ultimate!
Ok the prom queen knocked up joke made me spit out my Red Bull. Thank you for that Uncle Ben 😂
Homeschool was crazy
Yes steve is one of the most accomplished players in the world and to even get close is Ike having a pickup game with Jordan and keeping it close
Love to hear that!!
Great job Ben! Another song with pretty much the same technique is the opening section to The Glass Prison, by Dream Theater. I could be wrong, but it sure sounds like it. Not necessarily the melody, but the technique. I'm sure you could have fun with that one, even at step-dad speed. 😁
Ariel/Arial? Discovered him a while ago and have meaning to learn more about him. Thanks for reminding me.
Awesome!
I'm not sure if you're brave or a fool for trying this but kudos for giving it a go and well done
Excellent channel please play of iron Maiden stranger in a strange land a tutorial
Up iron maiden we hope these song please
Please play of Iron Maiden
that opening is me with every song i learn.
Thank you that party hard riff was too cool. Lol😅
The struggle is there no matter the skill level. Nice to know.
Wow, tough one for sure. The amp sounds awesome! I had an Engl Powerball years ago. Kick myself for letting that amp go.
Need a video of uncle Ben showing us all of his guitars together.
There is some footage of your dog scratching himself at 160bpm. it just looks a little funny because the timing is perfect. Lol
If you are a beginner work on alternate picking also learn a little thing called Travis picking and combine both together. It's a perseverance aspect so if practised over 6 months you should be buzzing around if done daily and I mean daily not every so often otherwise pack it in
do the Glass Prison arpeggios next