Workers' comp claim denied after nurse's coworkers fail to give CPR
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- Опубліковано 29 кві 2024
- When a nurse suffered a sudden cardiac arrest at her work, her co-workers at an Upland medical facility failed to give her CPR for over 7 minutes. NBC 4’s I-Team’s Carolyn Johnson reports.
Well that’s one hospital everyone should AVOID.
St. Lukes in Idaho, and St. Josephs in Tacoma. Two more to avoid at all costs.
My mom goes here for her remission appointments. I’m terrified
@sandraviles Facts!
The unhopeful 100%
Every hospital is one to avoid.
Forget workman's comp sue the hospital for negligence
Amen
Right!
They should sue for her stroke cause by experimental clutshut as well.
That's exactly what I was thinking! I'm not sure that having a heart attack at work qualifies for Workers Comp, but they were very obviously negligent and should definitely be sued for that.
Thats what they COULD have done if the employees didnt record their actions and call 911 and WAITING...
Performing Medical attention without consent is HOW you get sued... you can thank yt people for that.. sueing people that perform CPR etc on an Unconcious person.. thats what yt people did all through the 90s until they changed the laws... Sienfeild highlighted this in one of heir episodes where jerry saved a womans life when she had a heart attack but broke one of her ribs while doing it and she sued him...
Statistically you are safer having a heart attack at an airport than you are having one in a hospital.
Let that sink in....
Yes literally so true. My mom went to the hospital and the lady was laughing saying I don’t think you’re having a hard attack …
Statistically, most people die in hospitals. Statistically, everyone in hospice dies. Statistically, most drownings occur in a body of water.
Just thought that's a silly comment.
That’s not true. I work @ an AP I’ve seen someone die from an incident & ambulance didn’t come in time. When it’s your time it’s your time, no matter the place.
I remember when the parking attendant started cpr on a woman approaching Brigham&Womans hosp. All hosp employees were required to be certified in CPR. How can these people call themselves Healthcare workers?
WOW
No amount of money will make this right.
But money will help.
But they need it to get care.
Emergency physician here. "Not qualified to do CPR"? As a physician? WTF? Are you kidding me? 10 year old children can do CPR! Every person not helping her should lose their licenses to work as medical professionals! This is so disgusting!😡
This makes me so mad.
Im sorry i NEED to correct you one part. 7 YEAR OLDS KNOW HOW TO DO CPR! My daughter and her entire class as well as the school ALL learned how to to cpr! I was thoroughly impressed by it too. She knows how to “entangle”her hands, where to place them and does compressions by the beat of a song that they sing while doing compressions by The Bee Gees “staying alive” that statement by that so called Dr. Made me vomit in my mouth. He wasnt qualified to do cpr. What a JOKE he is.
They probably drugged her n tried to kill her which would explain not giving her cpr. “Medical professionals”…
They ruined her life.
I'm a CNA and even know agonal breathing. We've delt with a few situations like this in my career. But it's always the lpns. They don't know. The RNS and respiratory always run and call it when ,us CNAs report it ( we CNA get the crash cart, even before he code is called). But this is so sad. Imagine your coworkers and two providers doing absolutley nothing but recording you while your dying. Those nurses and providers really should lose their liscences. A re-education doesn't give that woman her mobility , life or career back. I'm almost wondering if them being in out pt surgery, and not seeing many codes didn't hinder their actions. But 7 mins passing, there is absolutley no excuse!
R.T. (R)(M) here and consider myself a medical professional who also is CPR certified. Any doctor who states he/she is “not qualified “ to perform CPR should rethink their career path in that instant. That nurse was in a medical facility surrounded by coworkers who were all medical professionals, and instead of helping her she was filmed? Who does that ????
Filming instead of offering medical help is pure negligence.
*Evil
@@HellolmNobodyYes, it's beyond negligence... it's pure evil!!!
I think she did that to her body and lifestyle far before she even went into that hospital
The person who filmed is worthless human being!
Whoever was there and did not help, are worthless human beings!
The lack of help, is disgusting!
The city of hope, is a joke!
I will forever think of the “city of hope as an institution that lack care and dignity for my fellow man and woman!
F the city of hope and those poor excuses for human beings, that watched this woman having a medical emergency!
The irony, of it happening in what’s supposed to be a medical facility, is what makes this beyond disgusting!
@@user-lp1jw9bo5ydid what? She was an athlete before this happened.
They should be stripped of their nursing qualifications and banned from practice
The caregiver will most likely be another Serna…
Why the HE$$ would a hospital full of doctors, nurses & other medical professionals call 911 in an emergency??‼️‼️‼️
They still need to call 911 for cuz they’re in a non-emergency clinic but they shouldn’t need the dispatcher to tell them when and how to do CPR! Infuriating 😡😡😡🤯
Probably she was working in a wing of the hospital thats not part of the acute setting. Unfortunately a lot of hospital policy makes this a protocol to still call 911.
The doctor said he wasn’t qualified to govern CPR. What kind of stupidity is that 😮
All scared of being sued, better to just ignore it
It’s crazy right but doctors don’t need to do cpr
Ridiculous. From day one as a brand new RN we were told we were expected to give cpr to anyone in need - patient, visitor or staff. Unless theres a palliative care only order. If theres no mask around we were told we are expected to do it without / mouth to mouth (so in our interests to have a mask !)
When i was 12 i did a kids first aid. We were told to have a go. We cant cause any more harm to a person not breathing /no heart rate. He told us we didnt have to be perfect but had to try. It’s not hard !
I dont understand these staff at all absolutely disgusting. You dont need to be qualified to run a code to jump in and to cpr. Kids do it !
I dont understand why call 911? Are they not in a hospital ? Maybe it doesnt have emergency or cardiac , so yes you can call ambulance to take elsewhere. But you stabilise the person first you dont stand there telling 911 shes not breathing. They havent even got her on a bed. Disgraceful just unbelievable. My own pre teen kids have done cpr on a neighbour who collapsd they would have done better. Just wow
He was lying. He should at the very least run the recovery team.
That was my reaction as well?
SUE the hospital for NEGLEGENCE!!!! How do their staff NOT KNOW CPR?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IN A HOSPITAL!????????????
THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING DUHHHHHHHH!
I delivered food trays in a hospital and was required to take CPR certifications ever year, this is crap what the hospital is saying
They are suing workman's comp.
Sue that hospital AND each nurse and Doctor that did Nothing, then go for their licenses to practice medicine and nursing.
Not only that, those doctors should have their medical licenses revoked. Every single healthcare worker (down to EMTs) work under an MD, because they are supposed to be the experts.
SUE the "City of Hope Hospital" for MALPRACTICE! This is absolutely SHAMEFUL!!!!!!
Security Officer here…..where’s Security? Even Security Officers are trained to do CPR!
I took CPR training as a teenager at a community center. I have administered it once with over the phone assistance from 911 to help keep the man breathing (I'm 45 now) and it was incredibly scary, but I saved someone's life. I also learned to use a defibrillator in carpentry school. These are actually easier than doing chest compressions. Unbelievable negligence.
not true, i worked at two hospitals as contract secuirty guard and i was not cpr certified
@@broadwayshack1664 it's possible because you were contract it wasn't required. But if you're staffed through the hospital you would likely be certified.
@@ICanCreateThat i see, it’s highly unlikely an allied universal security guard would give cpr to some random hospital patient anyways for such low pay lol.
@@broadwayshack1664 ouch. I mean, it's worth getting your certification because then you can ask for more money on security jobs. Plus...you know...the whole savings a life thing. There's nothing like it. It's a wild feeling.
If a patient goes into cardiac arrest at City of Hope would they get CPR? How could anyone trust them to provide care? This is a travesty.
Yes!! The doctors and nurses can't give CPR to a coworker ???? I wouldn't want to be a patient at City of Hope. Sounds hopeless to me.
Exactly.!!!
Then people wonder why they get sicker when they go to the hospital…
Im not a nurse and know cpr everyone should especially if you have children
The only one you can trust to provide your dumb a$$ any care would be god that is who these people are mad at they are not mad at a hospital they are mad at god and you cannot be mad at god no one can save you a god says it’s your time no one can save you when your lifestyle has led to the pointOf no return
As a nurse for 30 years, I feel every person standing there should lose their license. Were these caregivers credentialed in BLS?
Even if they weren't, they could have tried. Did first aid training a few years ago: "Call 911 and put them on speaker, they'll help you. If there's an automatic defibrillator nearby, send someone to get it, they're smart machines and they talk you through it. If you're worried about doing it wrong, you tell yourself anything is better than nothing. Once you start, you do. not. stop unless the machine tells you, or a doctor or paramedic does. And when it's all over, sit back, catch your breath, and take care of yourself too."
They planned this attempted murder.
Just TRY TO HELP HER!!!!!!!
No experience
I'm just a lowly CNA, but I know enough that I don't care if they were "trained" or not... you try to save a life and deal with the consequences later. As an in-home caregiver, most of our clients are DNR, but we have to be certified anyway. SMH!!!
The medical professional that did not react should be charged with gross negligence.
I was a patient in an urgent care, an older man collapsed due to cardiac arrest, the nurses and doctors didn’t know what to do, they were just standing there. I took a CPR class and directed the whole situation until paramedics arrived. It was bizarre.
I worked in an ER years ago and watched doctors Google how to run a code more than once!
So sad! Maybe they’re thinking about liability or who is in charge? No excuse. Almost like the bystander effect. Crazy 😮
What?! OMG!!
Called 911? To do what? They were in the hospital surrounded by doctors and nurses. Its crazy.
Exactly that’s all I was thinking 🤔
It sounds to me like they wanted her to die, but were just covering their own asses.
@@electricwizard3000 I was thinking the exact same thing.
She needs to sue everyone envolved.
.911 What is your emergency?
Ummm there's a Fire!!
.Where are you located?
We are at the firestation on 2nd and main.
.(insert silence)
A dr claiming not to be competent to give COR needs to have his license taken away ASAP.
I agree
Exactly! They can practice medicine but not cpr ?
Yeah "COR" !!!
Geez, anyone who takes a one session class at the Red Cross can be certified to give CPR. 🙄🤬
Apparently it is a “City of Hope”, not a City of Action, Compassion, or Loyalty. They have abandoned a wonderful, beautiful caregiver. Shame on anyone making those decisions to abandon this nurse.
A negligence suit against the supervisor seems very appropriate.
All medical doctors are required to be able to perform CPR. He should be decertified as a doctor.
This guy got his diploma with the affirmative action illegal program.
Most hospital employees are BLS certified. CNA, RN, secretary etc…
I'm not even in the medical field and I can do CPR. It's like an hour long course. An idiot could do it. That is a laughably bad excuse.
First of all they're all quacks.. Second of all this, should I 100% be a workman's comp claim Because I guarantee you.Her cardiac arrest is connected to you know what
@user-wg7sm3jz8i
This didn't look like a CPR situation? But do you think it looks like a situation to pick up a camera and start recording? And what is it with that teary eye laughing emoji. I hope you or anyone close to you never experience this family's pain that brings you so much joy and laughter.
Wait what? she is at a hospital and healthcare provider did nothing?
6 !! Health care workers did NOTHING.
Most likely outpatient scene.
And a Dr said that he wasn't qualified to perform CPR?
Yes. These outpatient clinics have nursing staff that have been away from acute bedside nursing for a while. So they can be “rusty”. I agree with RN Harris, everyone should be competent to give basic life support/CPR. And the facility has a responsibility to make sure their staff are competent. We have annual “mock codes” or Crisis Resource Management training in our hospital. But outpatient facilities do not generally do this and it is not required. It took awhile for us to have one but it is valuable in training staff what to do in these situations. My heart goes out to the family and to this poor nurse. This is unacceptable. 😢
City of hope isn't a hospital.
I was denied too after I tore my shoulder on the job. I’m suing my former employer and the insurance company right now. I’ll win
Good luck! Sorry you went through that!
@@TheSecularMinority thank you.
Did you file in a timely manner?
Have you obtained an attorney?
@@ElleBrOw I did file on time and I have an attorney now. It’s a process but it’ll be worth it in the end
@@JavierRodriguez-db2vh Usually settles less than 3 yrs. Stay encouraged💕
Theres a level of incompetence that is difficult to comprehend here. She was in the best place to receive immediate help, but did not.
It boggles the mind to understand how you van essentially die among medical 'professionals'.
Heartbreaking and sickening.😢
You are a medical doctor but you are not qualified to perform CPR?
🤯 first time hearing this BS. It’s mind boggling.
@Jay, My mouth hit the floor when I heard that, what the heck kind of doc doesnt know cpr, then hes not a doc hes a joke collecting money off peoples misery
Michael Jackson's personal physician was asking others if they knew CPR after finding him unconscious. I'll never forget hearing that and deciding he needed jail time.
@@paulettebarrow9791 This was a cancer hospital and the doctors/ nursers are not certified to provide CPR. Had they performed CPR, they would be liable for lawsuit which happens more often than not.
@@ani589google says otherwise... 🤷
As a teen lifeguard I was certified in CPR back in the 1970s
Now I got the newest certification for CPR a couple years ago and it was so dumb - they removed steps.
This modern world is a joke - a shame and people are evil
I’m a paramedic and this is disturbing. They are CPR certified. She has to live in her own hell thanks to these cowards. If they won’t do CPR for one of their own, I wonder how many patients they refused to help.
Many outpatient MDs will run the other way when a medical emergency happens. That's just the way it is - whether we like it or not.
@@MNP208 that is a far to generalized of a statement
@@Pj287. No, it's not. I work with them. I didn't say "all" MDs.
This is what people don’t realize, they DONT have to be trained, they DONT have to apply extra life saving techniques and THEY DONT HAVE TO help you. They also are not all SMART and are just there filling a job because it’s high paid and their parents told them to be ‘nurses’
I always knew it was good pay but didn’t feel i had the compassion to be a nurse…now at 40 I realize neither do most of them.
My husband was in ICU for 14 days. I saw first hand the unqualified, the sincere, the hardworking, the negligent. I saw monitors being ignored constantly, the woman in the next room fell out of the bed, there was death happening all around me, they forgot to give my husband dinner once and lunch another time, he was swelled from a bad iv that leaked into his back and shoulder. They just treat us like science experiments when we are in their care.
So yeah, not all nurses are saints and they def aren’t HEROS like those stupid signs during covid.
I’m very very sad for this lady and her family like why this has to be the saddest story i ever heard
As a pharmacy worker even I freaking knew what was going on....every person in that room failed her...
Everyone with a medical license should lose their licenses! This is disgusting...
She may have been working, but the minute she went into cardiac arrest, she became a patient at that facility and therefore, the lack of lifesaving assisstance given to her should be considered medical negligence.
I agree, God Bless that family🙏
She was at work
@@juliebowers550and when she went into cardiac arrest, she became a patient.....therefore medical malpractice. Either way....they did her wrong
@@juliebowers550 Yes, in a place that under normal circumstances should be the "ideal" location if you are going into cardiac arrest.
. If a person has epilepsy and has a seizure at work without injury, it isn't work comp. If she has a seizure and falls on desk and hurts her head with injury, then the head injury is wc.
Never heard of a medical worker not being qualified to do CPR
Very bizarre, how is that even possible
I am working in a psych hospital and I have to be certified
That is because big pharma has infiltrated and indoctrinated ALL of the med schools. the real doctors of yesterday are a dying breed
I used to be a simple medical transport driver, (drive people to doctors' appointments, etc.) and I had to get CPR and first aid trained!!!!!
I worked at a gym, and I had to recertify for CPR every year. It’s inexcusable for a medical professional to not.
This makes me sick. I’m sorry she went through this.
They should have been criminally charged. Every one of them should be serving time.
Picking up a cell phone instead of defibrillator says way too much about our society has become. She should be sitting in jail for life.
It looked similar to a seizure. It makes sense now.
@@joyaustin6581ER nurse here-this looked NOTHING like a seizure. Those were agonal breathing patterns, and the cyanosis in her extremities and around her mouth should’ve clued them in. Dammit, this makes me angry!
They all should be sitting in jail . They refused life saving actions that they were trained for .
It looks like they made a mistake due to ignorance - it's not that they did not care. They thought she was having a seizure. And, even after they couldn't get a BP and didn't feel a pulse, they thought there's no way shes in cardiac arrest because they were convinced she was still breathing. They probably don't even know what agonal breathing is. Plenty of medical professionals are very ignorant even about medicine and need to constantly google stuff on the fly. That's the reality of the healthcare industry
@@chrissyrose9318healthcare professionals are directly responsible for over 300,000 deaths per year in the USA alone. They have very good insurance - you very rarely see people in healthcare get fired for accidentally killing people or failing to provide basic life support, let alone going to jail
They thought she was having a seizure. They failed to give CPR because they didn't recognize agonal breathing and thought she was breathing . Its ignorance on their part
As an RN, this fills me with absolute RAGE. There is NO excuse for such incompetence and negligence. This is an absolute disgrace!
Exactly. I'm ICU nurse ACLS certified. The video they took shows she's in agony breathing. When you can't get a BP on someone you should check for pulse. They mistakenly thought she has seizures. I thought every RN working in healthcare environment should still has a BLS.
I'm not a nurse, and this is enraging.
ya there is its called capitalist healthcare if you aint rich YOU ARE FUCKED
@@leochen3020 Yes, as a bare minimum nurses are supposed to be BLS accredited. It’s supposed to be a core competency! I just can’t get past the number of nursing and medical staff who were present and did NOTHING to help her. The level of ineptitude they displayed is beyond disturbing. And I just can’t get over the fact that her boss actually thought that whipping out her phone to record the incident was an appropriate and professional response to what was clearly a medical emergency. I’ve honestly met more capable civilians who had better skills in a crisis! Every single one of the doctors and nurses who failed to act in this case should be FIRED.
But they called 911, nurses here are expert in chemo drugs and chemotherapy…. They are not ER or ICU nurses, they are not code blue nurses…. 911 operator failed in this situation…
This is insane. If I were to suffer sudden cardiac arrest, there's no other place I'd rather be than in a healthcare facility
Expect for that facility, City of (Better) Hope (You’re Not Here)😅
The ao called Doctor needs her License REVOKED! Immediately
Nurse who filmed, revoked.
Unbelievable. That whole hospital should be investigated!
I agree with you. City of Hope and its employees should be investigated and charged. The fact that they have the audacity to deny her workers' compensation is beyond belief! WTH!
The only investigating the hospital will do will be none. Administration will brush it under the rug.
When everything is for profit, this is what we get. NOT A THING ❤️☠️☠️☠️🇺🇸
It’s not a hospital. It’s a clinic
that’s an understatement
A DOCTOR who doesn't know CPR?
Did I read that correctly?
I have witnessed a DR. Provide CPR in public the wrong way. I tried to help and correct her but the crowd yelled at me. Not all Dr.s do CPR.
yes. not all doctors know the basics.
Funny I thought I heard that wrong. I couldn’t believe it. I assumed every medical professional knew CPR, but especially doctors and nurses. Even teachers and those who work with kids or adults I thought had CPR training. I had to perform it on my mom just over a year ago and I didn’t have training but I was given the instructions from 911 until police first. arrived, thankfully within a minute or two and they knew what to do. I didn’t even give it a thought that it was possible for them not to know what to do. Watching this video just broke my heart.
Yup, and we'll see more of that with laxed the standards now.
Yes, not all doctors know that. Some of them don't even know how to properly inject patients or put IV lines to them. 🙈
Unbelievable. No doubt the facility is threatening everyone who was there from speaking.
This is unforgivable!!! All nursing employees are certified BLS
The nurse committed her life to saving others,yet they refused to save her.
Bingo! Nursing is backwards
No CPR??? Why the hell NOT????
A FULL medical staff & a doctor who DOESN'T know CPR?!!! WTF 😡
I'm no Dr, or nurse. I'm just a parts manager for Harley Davidson and I KNOW CPR & CHILD/BABY CPR! WTF!? MIND BOGGLING!
I do housekeeping and I know and can perform CPR!!!
Most doctors can't read from what I can tell. You write on your papers what you are allergic to and they prescribe them anyway!
I worked at a hospital, in an area where we were all CPR certified. What most people don’t know is that the vast majority of doctors do not know CPR (are not certified). They would have to be trained by someone, typically in a class, which would be “too humiliating” for them (my words). They prefer to leave it to the little people to do. I can’t explain the nurses’ reluctance.
Me too I am a home health assistant I'm a CNA and I can do CPR and I'm qualified
As a retired ER PA….WHAT THE ACTUAL FK??
I was an MA for years and ALWAYS had to have CPR training all the time!!!
Worker’s comp is out to protect the employer and NOT the employee. They need to be investigated because there is no way this should be denied. Awful!
Incredible. That they would even debate this matter is ludicrous.
Why should this be a wc claim? Does state law say that if an employee has a medical emergency at work, it’s a commendable wc claim? I’m just curious because the states I’m familiar with has to be injury by accident. I’m sorry this happened to her, but perhaps they should look into a different type of claim. I personally do not think this would be a wc claim.
@@zilnettah7339in California this is 100 percent a compensable injury. I hope she goes after the nurses and doctors who stood by and did nothing! She deserves all of what she is asking for.
@@prettymeela29 oh ok. Thank you for that information. I know nothing about California’s worker’s compensation laws.
@prettymeela29 no it isn’t. you said it yourself, it has to be an “injury” - simply being at work when whatever part of your body goes kaput is not a reason for work comp to pay.
Those coworkers should have lost their licenses including the doctors. There is NO excuse for their lack of care. I hope the family sues for malpractice!
Ikr😢
She wasn't a patient - she was an employee. Sadly, it falls into a Good Samaritan situation - and health professionals aren't LEGALLY REQUIRED to provide care. She would have had a better chance at receiving CPR on a city bus.
I was hoping to find this comment down here because I totally agree! Their career choice, responsibility, basic human decency & moral obligation was to save her life! Highly educated & trained professionals in saving lives couldn’t be bothered! These morons took the care out of Healthcare! Shameful, disgusting, immoral & inhumane. Insult to injury that she’s denied Worker’s Comp when this is a direct result of their actions that day! 🤬
@@CraftHarlothow does that even work? So I, as some who is certified, can be held accountable for not helping but, trained professionals with medical degrees cannot??!! What kind of studiptry are we living in!!??
@@CraftHarlotAre you joking? Do you not know the laws? I hope all the nurses you go to just leave you in the emergency room. You dont deserve medical care
Wow!! This is madness. How can you be a medical professional and not give CPR? just insane! Why would anyone feel safe in there?
Unfuckinbelivable!!!! All these so-called medical professionals in a medical facility standing around instead of taking action?!!! They need to be sued big-time!!!!
They call 911 in a medical emergency when they are a hospital! That’s like a cop calling the police!
Exactly!!! They all need their licenses taken away. I have never heard of such stupidity in a medical facility.
It looks like an out pt center so the call to 911. But still nurses and doctors around? What kind of doctor is not qualified to do cpr?!
911 operator: She is not breathing?
Nurse Serna: No
No cpr but continues to record on her phone. And these people are medical professionals? What in the world.
They were essentially watching her die and were moved to do nothing. They need to be banned from healthcare.
Why would medical professionals video tape an emergency situation instead of acting. A room full of medical professionals standing around watching is disgusting .
Ummmm internet clout doesn’t just happen, guy. Someone dies or has their lifestyle completely changed for the worse, but you get internet fame. I think we know which way secular America would go.
I’m glad now they video taped it so that this poor lady can sue them into oblivion. But they should have tried to save her first and foremost
It’s to have a record of the incident and avoid liability on their part
Million dollar question 🙋🏻♀️: was she Covid vx and if so how many j @bs. This is so sad and neglectful by coworkers, the family should sue.
@@lesliea.7174 Hundred dollar question: Are your parents cousins or are they siblings?
Licensed doctors and nurses standing around, filming, claiming not to be qualified to administer basic life-saving measures? City of Hope lawyer intimidating a witness? Dear Jesus! I am praying for Andrea.
Oh my goodness, so disheartening how an event like this happened at your medical workplace and no one provided the necessary first aid cpr when all medical professionals are around you. Workman's comp will not save anyone it will always be a pain to work with them I hope you that your lawyers will fight for her case and get justice and compensation for the damages it caused her life. This medical facility should be held accountable
This makes my blood boil! As a nurse myself, I CAN NOT comprehend this. None of the nurses at the scene knew CPR?!?! Nor the Dr? WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL!!! Complete negligence 😢
Legal liability is why no one wanted to touch her. If they doc. did not, everyone else backed off.
Yeah, that's bad. At my job I reported two nurses don't even have credentials. Why the DON hired them is beyond me. You know Healthcare workplaces are run by psychopaths.
They knew CPR. They didn't implement it.
@@danielrn133
Yeah I think they knew. I’m wondering if this was a personal (not personnel) issue.
Even if I didn’t know cpr I couldn’t just stand there & watch someone go through that.
Yes as nurses you are protected with the good samaritan law. Doing something is better than nothing. That's basic to at least give oxygen. SMH wrong on many levels. God bless her and the family 🙏.
I’m a hospital RN x28 yrs. That video and the resulting condition of that poor nurse is so disturbing. For them to not recognize her agonal breathing… My God the incompetence.
@lisa, this place should be shut down
I am also a nurse and that was clearly agonal breathing. That is ineffective breathing. She also had no BP. She was left sitting up in a chair rather then being placed flat to help her BP and CPR started.
I’m a nursing assistant and recognized it. Holy cow!
I am also a nurse. We are actually required to do everything that we are medically capable and knowledgeable to do for anyone. It isn't the argument of if she was a patient they would have done more, but she was a part of the TEAM!!! Absolutely sickening!!! What have they done 😢
I saw it immediately. Never in someone so young. They abandoned her to die.
This is absolutely horrible
To me, this is more evil and unfathomable than murder. Sickened.
"City of Hope" how ironic, more like City of Hopelessness. The hospital should be ashamed.
wtf you expect from capitalists quality healthcare
City of Hopelessness is right!
I am a lowly carpet cleaner but I know CPR and used it to save my drowning niece
And this doctor? What a joke
Yes, he is held at a higher standard but he is guilty as well as the nurses.
You are not a lowly carpet cleaner. You are a hard-working, blue-collar individual. An added bonus is you know CPR. Don’t ever forget us blue-collar people are the backbone of this country.
@@overit4648 You took the words out of my mouth. Nothing lowly about working hard everyday.
Don't sell yourself short, stranger 😊.
Hey, I work in facilities too. ❤ We're important too!
I’m a hospitalist…I can’t believe what I’m hearing!! wtf is wrong ppl!!! Everyone should be held accountable!!! Disgusting!!!
Thank you for your service and Happy Mothers Day!💕🌺 I hope that people continue to cover your story.
It is sickening that your employer isnt supportive of you KNOWING what nurses go through in effort to care for patients. I hope and pray they do right by you.
As a healthcare employee, we all receive BLS training. I have seen nurses run to the aide of patients. I have listened to their cries, especially while on covid units, as they did everything they could to save a patient, and it wasnt enough. You cant unhear that level of pain and grief. Nurses, in the truest form, give nothing short of their all in those critical moments.
What I have never seen a nurse or doctor do is record a medical emergency. Never.
She will have to live with her decision on that day.
Keep fighting, Love. Keep sharing your story. Your fighting spirit is nothing but inspirational!❤
Calling 911 while she’s already at a hospital is wild
This
City of Hope is not your regular type of hospital. They need to transport her to any open receiving Emergency Room.
@@Mr0erick0
MD’s and RN’s stands for what here? Might Do and Really Nutty?
I’m sure you’re not implying it was ok for them to just stand around like idiots? Sitting in a chair wasn’t helping her breathing.
I’ve worked in several non medical jobs where everyone got trained in CPR. This is such a basic, simple thing to know.
This hospital should be looked at by accreditation agencies.
This is the last place I’d want to go for anything.
Absolutely appalling.
@@rowanhard Don’t think you read my comment correctly.
@@Mr0erick0
I read it correctly. Do you really think someone with a medical degree can’t do CPR? What if someone getting chemo has a heart attack? They all just stand around and watch while they wait for the squad? I just don’t buy that. And they couldn’t find a BP cuff? Seriously?
Despicable. No excuse. The so-called "medical professionals" who stood around watching & filming a colleague suffer a life-threatening attack, should be banned from ever being employed in healthcare.
Seriously, I wouldn’t want them taking credit for of me or a loved one 🤔
....and they will have the nerve to feel a way when you don't want to have anything to do with them. As they'll think that everyone buys and trusts their professional performance.
What an absolute disgraceful monstrous company
Total BS. They need to help this woman for the rest of her life.
As a nurse myself watching this made me so angry. A Dr not certified to do CPR?? I’m throwing the BS card. In the state of Kentucky all physicians have to be certified in ACLS (advanced cardiac life support). The entire staff at this facility, including housekeeping and cafeteria, should be trained BCLS (basic cardiac life support otherwise known as just CPR). This is BEYOND WRONG!!
I feel every single person who was there being Dr, nurse or medical technician should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Every single one of them should PERMANENTLY LOSE THEIR LICENSE!! I swore an oath when I became a nurse. It is almost EXACTLY THE SAME as what a Dr has to. The biggest part of it is “FIRST DO NO HARM!!” It was extremely harmful to basically watch an active woman who I would guess was in her 40’s DYING IN FRONT OF THEM. Even if it wasn’t cardiac arrest and was a seizure they did not put her in a safe place where she could not hurt herself. Slipping and sliding in a chair is NOT A SAFE PLACE!! I hope every one of them has the book thrown at them!!!
An extremely furious nurse in Kentucky
I couldn't agree more with every single point you made here- this is mind boggling... thank you for your service as a nurse ❤
when I watched the clip of her, I recognized she was exhibiting agonal breathing. And only because I recently watched a youtube video explaining this. This should be included in the teaching of CPR/BCLS, to enforce that agonal breathing is a sign that the patient is actively dying. I am a nurse, but I work in a home care setting, and I associate agonal breathing with hospice patients at "end of life", and I may have thought that "well, she's breathing, so...." I can forgive shock, panic, disbelief, but FILMING? What was the purpose of that? I hope she wins her lawsuit, and I hope these medical professionals all lose their licenses.
He was lying and a coward
@@geriroush8004 right! Its the death cry, and medical professionals should know that!
💯💯💯
A doctor saying “that he was not qualified to give CPR”? How is this even possible?
Maybe they didnt renew their CPR certificate for a while....
Hi, I was a Medical Assistant and C.D.C.W. and I was not even allowed to hold those positions without being *certified* in CPR and First Aid.
@@wowerz82 That's not legal. Your employer is to keep track of when you're going to expire and set you up or you'll be off work until you renew.
Horrible 😢 a doctor who needs to give up his or her license 😢
The 911 operator could've walked him through CPR. Her job was negligent.
Although her boss was wrong to record, this recording may end up helping her case.
Should be called " City of Disgrace "
Any nurse or physician that doesn’t know how to give CPR or manually know how to get blood pressure, should have their license revoked. Don’t work at hospital if you don’t even know the basic.
This should be one of those $100 million judgements for this kind of horrible negligence.
She’s gonna need more $500m
I really hope they sue City of Hope and get a massive settlement.
Those doctors and nurses should lose their licenses. They should be ashamed of themselves.
They are doing as instructed and you will do as instructed also by staying at home keeping your mascon and getting your VAX shots and shutting up
@@user-lp1jw9bo5y so according to your statement you should commit negligence under a boss order ??? I DONT THINK SO that is a CRIME is call negligence they should lose their license to practice …..
Yes, to record a person in distress instead of helping them...criminal charges, period.
AGREED!!!!!!!
@@miapdx503 I bet she recorded her for evidence thinking it was a drug overdose not a cardiac event. What a manager! Cold and uncaring!
This breaks my heart.💔 I'm so sorry this happened to this nurse. It's unfortunate that nurses could not help a fellow nurse; instead they record the emergency. RN here.
She wanted to help people but people didn’t help her 😢
This is pretty incredible. These people should be charged.
Worse than charged imo.
I agree with you. City of Hope and its employees should be charged. It's absolutely outrageous that the workers stood by without taking action, and the supervisor recording her without consent is in violation of HIPAA and her medical privacy rights. The fact that they have the audacity to deny her workers' compensation is beyond belief! WTH! 🤬
If they did not charge Dr. Fauci they will never ever charge any other stupid doctor you nincompoop
You grabbed your cellphone instead of a defibrillator or an oxygen mask when someone was dying…
I’ve been CPR certified for thirty years and I’m not an EMT or even in the healthcare field. My parents convinced me it was a life skill worth having.
me too more than 30 really, they wouldn't certify me at 7 (even though I could do it, they did at 12) I am well into my 50's and work in an IT related field so not necessary, just a good practice
I'm a nanny, and I HAVE to be CPR certified for my insurance. I don't understand how any of this could happened, except from pure stupidity.
That creepy who could you trust? These are not well train people
Agree 100%
I applaud your parents for instilling that insight ! It is a very impt life skill
That's disgusting and I'm deeply saddened for her and her family. They must have something against her. This is off.
😮😮😮😮😮 As a medical professional I don't even have words for this story. I'm appalled on so many levels...
People on the STREET may not be certified, but they'll TRY to do CPR!! Anyone should TRY!
If you know that’s what is needed?
@@johnsradios484 if there's no pulse.
Yeah what coastal said. No pulse, not breathing, start CPR.
Your at work and in a major medical center. And nobody helped. And then say goodbye no workers Comp. This is a crime
@standfortheinnocentstandfo6057 that isnt true
It wasn't a "major medical center" just a cancer center, but the rest is true and they all should know how to help as healthcare workers.
Cancer center. Where patients are sacrificed? Nurses too?
Labor law should come in and take over
The nurses that stood around should all be in PRISON
Medical professional here. Once you've confirmed that the patient is not breathing, you have to begin CPR immediately!
She was in a HOSPITAL?? And they called 911?
Fake licenses...Fake licenses everywhere.
Yeah wth...it's like...she is EXACTLY where she needs to be to get medical attention, and they call 911???
Happens often. Worked for Dallas Fire Rescue. Parkland Hospital is a level 1 trauma center, the ER triage nurse called 911 for a person hit by a car outside the ambulance bay. Children’s Hospital, was connected to the old Parkland Hospital 2 sets of doors and a 10ft breezeway separated Children’s ER and Parkland ER. Children’s ER would call 911 when an adult went to them rather then Parkland. UTSW Medical center called 911 to take someone from one of their step down units to the ER. Medical City Hospital rented office space in their hospital to Drs. They would call 911 frequently to take people down a couple hallways to the ER. Doctors and nurses are so afraid of being held liable for using common sense that they pass people off to a couple of paramedics with a fraction of the training they have just so they can wash their hands of liability. Then as a paramedic you try to call them out in their bullsh_t, they complain to our superiors about their professional judgment being questioned by a lowly paramedic. It’s disgusting that some of these people are allowed to practice medicine.
Exactly. What is 911 going to do, take her to the …hospital???? Freaking ridiculous. 😢
@@Chris-qo2jx i used to work in ER and we have a parameter outside the hospital that we can respond. Coz it happens a lot that we had to respond outside the hospital. 1 nurse and 1 doctor with stretcher and a 1 large red bag with c-collar, torniquets, bag-valve mask, intubation kits and epi except AED. If we need a extra hand like pushing the stretcher, the hospital guard can help.
So if it's outside the ambulance bay, i wonder why they can't respond. Or it's a hospital policy?
City of Hope is a joke.
The irony is utterly stunning.
I completely agree. The City of Hope and its employees should be thoroughly investigated and charged. It's outrageous that the workers did nothing, and then she was denied workers' compensation. Moreover, the supervisor recording her is a clear violation of HIPAA regulations.
City of Doom!
Nope! I’m a DNR…period! Yes I’m an RN…when you know you know!
So is Israel and I don’t see you posting about that genocide
I was a secretary at a school and had to know cpr and how to use an aed. How the heck is a doctor not qualified to do cpr. Thats the biggest pile of horse manure to ever be pooped.
They thought she had C-19 so they did not want to touch her - how cowardly and cruel.
That’s what it sounds like after hearing the story. That’s so sad
C-19?
Covid 19
That's no excuse. They weren't just random people on the street. They were presumably trained medical professionals who's job is to keep people alive
Like even if you are scared to get sick you can do chest compression only as it is still more effective than nothing. And it sounds like they had oxygen. It can't be a real hospital or it would have full equipment including ambu bags and a crash cart. They should have had n aed somewhere...
Whats wrong with those people? They need to have their licenses revoked.....permanently!
What a horrible profession that refuses to save their own! Where is the humility, integrity and compassion and empathy for those who put their lives at risk! Something is not right!! This is absolutely insane!!! I’m so confused and disgusted by these medical professionals!! I hope they get sued to the fullest
How in the hell is a doctor not certified to do CPR?
Everyone failed her and City of Hope should pay for health care for the rest of her life. Listening to her talk breaks my heart.
The city of hope should be investigated. This hospital was not up to date with training of their personnel it seems. Inspection was obviously not being done.
Wow complete negligence, incompetent nurses.
I agree with you. It's all about making money at these medical facilities. They don't even care about their employees. The denial of her workers' compensation is outrageous! Additionally, there should be a thorough investigation into City of Hope and its employees. Their failure to provide CPR and the supervisor's recording clearly violate HIPAA regulations.
And doctors
@trinity5283 yes. While the nurses are fully negligent and as a nurse I have never been so boiling angry. The doctors are trained and take responsibility to give a higher level of care. They are in fact bigger failures since they are the ones who are technically supposed to run the code.
I don't know what state that was but in my state every licensed practicing health professional is supposed to take CPR every two years.
None of those people even tried!
I believe Upland is in CA.
And employers
This is why you shouldn't befriend your co-workers at times...
Sue the Hospital & co workers
A doctor can’t perform CPR? That’s terrifying
The doctor can 100% do cpr. He or she is in fact lying.
He can't perform CPR! He refused to perform CPR! Big difference!
The idea of a nurse calling 911 for a medical emergency IN THE HOSPITAL is genuinely terrifying. Not even mentioning the fact that they apparently aren't qualified to do CPR.
This is American bureaucracy and are messed up capitalized healthcare system in a nutshell!!! Everyone is so terrified of getting sued, they do this crazed BS 🙄🙄🙄 I rather risk getting sued and use common sense, to save a life of disability for this woman, than care about getting sued. Using common sense is frowned on in our country.
There are papers that MUST be signed before any hospital can care for you... either YOU or your FAMILY must sign it...
IF they would have not called 911 the facility could have been sued.. IF the facility took her into their care WITH OUT HER OR HER FAMILIES PERMISSION THEY COULD BE SUED... a signiture is required....
How old are you? why do you know this? get out your feelings and think like an adult.
@@ColinoDeani thats not how emergency situations work. They can absolutely provide emergency care to someone incapacitated while searching for next of kin. A signature is not required.
@@msguineapigsrus FALSE... you dont know the law.. ONLY LICENSED Paramedics can perform ANY medical procedures on an unconcious person Without their permission... THAT is emergency privaledge and its given ONLY TO EMERGENCY SERVICE PERSONNEL... a doctor in the area volunteering to work on an unconcious person can be SUED by that person for touching them etc with out permission....
THis is LITERALLY the work of w-men and feminism... sueing people after they saved them or helped them while unconscious.. it lead to LAWS being passed and the DOH changing Standards...
YOU CANNOT PERSOM ANY MEDICAL PROCEDURE ON ANYONE WITHOUT THIER PERMMISSION OR FAMILY... Literally.. look it up & go thank your local feminist for the Restraint Doctors and Nurses have to have to NOT help due to risk of being SUED... this staff did everything they were required to do.. anything more would have been violating her. GO GOOGLE THE LAW.. and thank feminism.
@@ColinoDeani You are totally incorrect you do not have to sign papers before a hospital helps you!! Implied consent, look it up! This was also an outpatient center and not a hospital by the sounds of it!
Former Paramedic, BLS Instructor, ACLS Instructor and ACLS Regional Faculty here to say this are the most negligent actions I have ever heard. Everyone should be sued for malpractice and at a minimum have their license suspended if not outright revoked. The fact that the employer denied workman's comp is insane beyond comprehension.
Imagine helping people for decades and not being helped in your own desperate times
This happened at work. Why wouldn't she get Workers Comp? Everyone who was present should be fired starting with the Supervisor. Happened at a medical facility. Makes you wonder how patients are treated there. Should be ashamed of this place and yourself.
let worker comp for workers cancer too
Because it must arise out of employment and occur during the course of employment. My guess is she didn't make a showing the cardiac event was linked to a work factor. Just because something happens at work doesn't mean its compensable.
@@Spazilton1You’re wrong. Any injury that happens at work is compensated, even if it is a negligent accident / at fault accident.
Under California law a worker who has suffered an on-the-job injury can settle their claim with the employers insurance company. That is done by either agreeing to let the insurance company pay for all future medical care related to the injury, or taking a lump-sum payment equal to the cash value of any anticipated treatment.
“California Workers' Comp Law on Heart Attacks - Cardiac Arrest
In California, when a heart attack occurs following a stressful situation or any interaction at work, it can qualify as a work-related injury. In fact, the workers' compensation claim form actually lists heart attacks as one of its “body parts code” numbers.”
“First Aid Treatment
First aid treatment is included as medical care that all employers must provide for their injured employees. In conjunction with the DWC, the California Department of Insurance (CDI) wants to remind all employers, physicians, insurance companies and self-insurers of the need to comply with Section 6409(a) of the California Labor Code.
Section 6409(a) requires a physician who treats an injured employee to file a "Doctor's First Report of Occupational Injury or illness" (DFR) with the claims administrator for every work illness or injury, including first aid cases where there is no lost time from work. Although the Labor Code contains "first aid" exceptions for the Employer's Report (Form 5020) and the Employee Claim Form (DWC-1), there is no such exception for the DFR. The insurance company (or the employer if the employer is self-insured) must forward DFRs to the DIR.”
They violated multiple laws in place.
@@Maggie028Yes, and that's a different issue altogether.
@@Maggie028 You are absolutely correct. That would be negligence. I would argue gross negligence and depraved indifference. Doesn't mean the injury is compensable under workers compensation laws.
I’m a nurse, and this is absolutely unacceptable. Her coworkers should be fired.
All three of those people in the room should go to jail and lose their license.
And now you get to sue the hospital.
Morally what they did was irreprehensible, without justification and borderline evil.
Legally... they did nothing wrong. It's why there is no lawsuit.
this is the problem with the American Justice System, they removed moral standings from it.
@raymondmoreno7961 -
Lose their jobs and go to jail for what reason. The Hippocratic Oath states, "Physician pledges to prescribe only beneficial treatments, according to his abilities and judgment; to refrain from causing harm or hurt". The facility is a cancer treatment center, not an emergency medical facility. Even an urgent care center is not going to start CPR, but instead will call EMS, then wait. Checking the blood pressure of a person does not give an indication of if a person is suffering from a heart attack, and if she didn't complain of any of the classic signs of a heart attack, and just stated not feeling well, then passes out, you're now in limbo on what to do besides quickly call 9-1-1, and once they arrive and do an assessment, they can determine whether CPR needs to be initiated, to include they have an AED, oxygen, and medication needed to sustain a heart attack victim long enough to rush the victim to the hospital.
There is nothing that says a nurse, physician, or medical personnel are mandated to treat a suspected individual; but what is mandated is they don't cause undue harm. And conducting CPR chest compressions does cause damage to the upper ribcage area when done manually, which is why many city and county EMS now carry LUCAS Chest Compression Systems, and any litigation is brought against the EMS technician and or the LUCAS manufacture.
Everyone in that room with her should be charged with attempted manslaughter, among the list of things they need to be jailed for ..
I gave CPR at work for 20 minutes one time while two registered nurses stood by refusing to help, so I'm not surprised to hear this at all. The guy died by the way.
This is horrible and to deny worker’s compensation is despicable!!!
They need that money for illegal immigrants.
This is very standard denial. Medical events like this happen all the time, sometimes coincidentally while the person is working. Doesn’t make it eligible for work comp. That’s what regular health insurance is for
As someone who works in insurance ( not claims) I can tell you it’s probably because they want to go for negligence for the nurse/ doctor malpractice insurance.
@@stephernoodle Someone that gets it. In Workers' Comp law you have to make a showing how the work factors contributed to the cardiac condition. For instance, if she was running to a code, and that physical exertion contributed to the cardiac event, it generally would be compensable. States vary on rules apportionment. There is no apportionment for Federal Workman's comp.
All that aside, in a hospital, she was owed a duty of care and has a negligence suit against the hospital.
I agree.