Leatherman Surge 5 Year Long Term Review
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- 0:00 Intro
0:39 Plier Head
1:55 Black Oxide stiffness
3:10 Gerber Suspension NXT and Roxon S801S Storm size comparison
3:57 Wire Cutters
5:00 Substitute for pocket knife
6:05 What I paid on eBay
7:11 Pocket Clip
7:33 Weight in ounces and grams
8:43 Plain edge knife blade
9:04 Scissors
9:41 Serrated knife blade
10:29 T-shank Adapter for Saw and File
12:12 Sharpen Surge with its own Diamond file
13:54 Asymmetrical handles on Leatherman tools
14:34 Hammering with Leatherman handles
15:04 Tough to deploy internal tools
15:35 Bit exchanger and bit driver
16:17 Can opener
17:34 Wire Stripper
18:32 Tool clumping
18:42 More internal tools
19:03 Awl and Reamer
21:22 How Leatherman might improve the Surge
21:50 Black oxide coating sheds
22:08 Why the Surge is the best Leatherman Multitool IMO
26:20 GOAT Tool spoiler
28:13 Outro
Joe finally gives his Leatherman Surge multi-tool the video it deserves. This super capable EDC tool is a sufficient substitute for knife-only carry and adds a huge amount of other functions. Wire cutters, pliers, metal file, scissors, a bit driver, and the sturdiest awl you’ve ever seen are just part of the tool set here. Made in the USA with a 25 year warranty… It’s a channel staple for so many reasons! Even a secondhand Surge will serve well. See the links below and check out the Multitool video playlist!
Note: Joe says several times that the GOAT (now officially the "Gear Of All Trades" tool) would be coming "this summer" which would have been summer 2021. Not sure where he got that idea, but the GOAT tools weren't shipped out until summer 2023. Please disregard this bit of stupidity, thank you.
@joeinkiron
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Thanks for your great review!
Just bought a Surge for my father's birthday, and more and more i think that I'll have to get one for me as well, this tool seems really useful and sturdy.
Really looks like a must have!
8 years Surge has been in my pocket. Just amazing. Saved me countless times, learned to sharpen it and all my knives with the diamond file to shaving sharp. In the beginning my wife was asking why I carry this thing with me all the time. Now she just asks for scissors or a knife or just fix my thing that broke. Love it!!! For 8 years I broke the scissors spring pin but it went through hell cutting things you would use a knife or sheers for. Replaced it and it is good as new. Service it my self as I am far far away from the US and shipping and possible transportation loss is not an option for me so when I needed the scissors replaced the local reseller changed it for a small fee. I think they scrap a bunch of tools to make parts from because it is so expensive to ship.
Hi Joe, I've had the stainless version for about 2 years now and I can confirm that this one is the smoother version after playing with both mine and a friend's black version. As for the wire crimper, I've used it to rewire my horns on the side of the highway and it worked well when I did use it. The sheer size of the tool made it easy for me to really get a good grip on it. Great video, keep up the good work!
A few other owners of the SS version have said the same. I think now we’ve got a general consensus that the Black Oxide makes the tools stiff overall 👍good to know the wire crimper is effective. I still haven’t used it 😅
Awesome sauce vid.
I just got a SURGE for Christmas 2023, yesterday.
I have been carrying as an EDC is my Wave Plus.
Thanks for the Rad video ❤
Very nice review, thanks
A lot of ppl on the Alone show use the Surge as their multitool, which is another testament to it's robust usefulness
I noticed that when I watched it too! A lot of Surge tools and SuperTool 300s on that show
Yep. What I find difficult is that Leatherman has the best all around multitools but SOG has pliers that are 2x-3x as good. With pliers that work that much better it's hard to go with another multitool. I like and agree with what he said here... "when I don't know what I'm going to need today, I go with the surge" (paraphrased). However I greatly dislike when he essentially apologized for Leatherman using the word "gentleman". Super gross.
I've been using the surge 5 years, no problems and have not yet replaced cutters. I have sharpened the awl and knives, and the scissors. I have also reshaped the screwdrivers but it also has the exchangeable bit, which I have acquired extras.
Thank you for the review. I have been looking at getting a new multi tool since I have broken 2 Gerber Truss pliers in the last six months. I think you have me sold on the Surge.
You’re going to like the Surge a lot coming from the Truss. Both are heavy but the Surge justifies its weight 👍
Fantastic review of a fantastic multi tool after 5years the Leatherman surge a very good tool for hard use joe this was a great review thanks for sharing it with us im really looking forward to seeing the G.o.a.t multi tool 1st I've hard of it so I'll be looking out for it thanks joe👍
Well I’m glad I could finally tell you something new 😁 I’m very excited for a modular tool. You can even DIY tools for it! And I will absolutely be using the Surge as my reference for the toolset
Ive had my Surge since 2020, I have the plain stainless and it opens n close one handed buttery smooth easy. I uses a pocker clip that helps with the weight and use the sheath to hole extentions n bit n boche t shank blades. Good Review.
The thing I most used on my surge was the driver bit, it's great for that, and the extra bits you can get from leatherman just adds that much more versatility
A lot of people like the bit set, but I’ve mostly just used the basic Flat and Cross driver bit it comes with 😅 it’s the most common hardware I run into
I use one of those chunky $5 ceramic/steel carbide sharpeners, I've been using it for years on my SAK & Multitool collection and in only 20sec it's brilliant. It leaves a much cleaner, sharper finish than you showed on your blade.
A few UA-camrs have modified the wire stripper in their tool semi circular with a round file to make it more useful for coax & larger cables.
The worst part of the Leathermans that have the bit exchanger is the bits themselves. They're just too soft for any meaningful work.The Leatherman driver extension and the Weha 13-piece bit kit (which fit in a Tic-Tac box) solved that problem.
The serrated blade is also great on slippery plastic stuff like dog food bags, cable ties, poly rope, etc.
I’ve even used the diamond file to file the jagged point of a broken tooth before
4/5 Dentists prefer the Leatherman Surge multi-tool 😂 thanks for sharing
HAA ! That tool hardly looks used ! You should see mine . I am a Marine electrician, I used my surge 20-30 times a day 5 days a week . I carried the wave for about 10 years " broke 3, lost two in the water " I have carried my Surge 6 years now , and I am talking hard use, prying, cutting, driving fasteners , cleaning and scraping battery terminals , cutting wire and cable. I can actually cut #2 stranded battery cable with it . I carry a good sharpener in my tool bag because I need to sharpen both blades 2-3 times a week. Mine came black and most of the black is worn off. Strongest most versatile tool on the market. About 20 years ago the Electrician training me said " If you work with a leatherman on your belt for two weeks , you will never want to work without one " . He was right ! On days off when I go somewhere with my wife , I feel naked without it !
That’s some serious hard use! Thanks for sharing that. I’m now even more confident that my Surge can take on any and all situations. I’m surprised you wore off the black coating! You’re definitely the hardest user I’ve heard of so far 😆
I carry mine 24/7. Lol keep one in the bedside table… gotta trim a nail now & then. I’ve had easy jobs & rough ones. I have always found the need to use my leatherman wave! I’m planning to add the surge to my kit. Mainly for the variety I can have with the T saw adapter. The wood saw is good in the wave but the fine tooth doesn’t cut it .
i fell into love with these multi tools the wave plus is so good that i had to buy this one
Don’t have many tools , thought getting a surge would be a good start. Thanks for the long term review.
You’re welcome. After collecting about 20 multi tools I admit the Surge is still my favorite!
Good video - It's good to know that the Surge is a strong, solid tool...I believe the Vic equivalent to the Surge is the Swisstool...the Leatherman equivalent to the Swisstool Spirit is the Wave+...
I like videos such as yours that talk about where and how the tool has been used personally over a long period of time. It'd be great if you could try the Victorinox Swiss Tool X for a few months and then compare notes.
Swisstool is definitely on my wish list for reviews! I always preferred when reviewers had actually USED the tool so that’s what I aim for too
Hi mate, I've had my polished Surge for 5 years, it has been a fantastic investment.
That green Champ is gorgeous 😍
I’ve had a surge for several years now and overall really like it. I did customize mine with stuff I wanted namely, the eyeglass bit holder from the original, and a dedicated bottle opener(made from another can opener).
Funny enough, I think the surge unmodified pairs really well with a swisschamp. Some tool redundancy but you have a ton of options
Thank you for the review after use! It is 2024, Leatherman has many tools, but I went with (ordered after your review) the Surge for my go-bag. Hike, ride, office, survive, ...whatever - I look forward to reducing the number of other tools (many infrequently needed) I now carry. I will likely add the pocket clip for keeping in place in my bag. The blades will allow me to put my long serving Swiss army knife away with its corkscrew, tiny magnifying glass, fish scaler, being tools I never used. I prefer made in the USA and the tool set you presented - there are no other US options. I still went with the oxide finish, I do not mind the look of a little battle wear, I look like I have and its still stainless.
last week I bought one of these... on ebay... for $76. So they went up a dollar :) Seriously awesome tool, have built a tool set around it.
Hey Joe! Great video. I like your narrative style. I'll soon spring for a Surge, and turned to UA-cam for the real-world rundown. I have an (original?) Super Tool and an aging (Gen 1?) Wave that treat me well, but I need something more in the heavy-duty department. I'll also likely buy the Bit Kit to get the #2 Square/Robertson for RV use. Cheers!
Thank you! The Surge is a genuinely great tool. Also, the separate bit extender will allow you to use any 1/4in bit you want, if that’s your goal. Thanks for watching and good luck with your tool hunt
Man..
I have Surge and Knipex cobra as well. Hahaha.
Your content is great and hopefully your channel can grow fast!
I hope so! Thanks for watching
Mine is brand new. The alignment of the handles looks just like yours.
My only complaint is that it’s stiff, but I’m sure it will loosen with use.
Why Leatherman didn’t have the foresight to make fully customizable multi tools is quite baffling. Somebody was bound to do it. It’s to great an idea not to.
Less screws means more durable and less problems I assume.
I work at a metal fabrication shop and I find tons of uses for my Surge. I love the black one because it's easy to spot among the other chrome tools on the table. Had to pop off a pressed in bracket and the small flathead came through like a champ! I use the pliers to unscrew clamped way to tight Vise Grips and unfuck some shit that went on wrong pry off some shit with the plier head. I use my tools probably harder than most but not harder than a mechanic lol.
Thanks for sharing! I definitely understand the “I can see it in the tool pile” struggle lol. Hell yeah I use mine hard too and it’s awesome that the Surge keeps up
had a pop off a pressed in bracket?
Different worlds.
What do you think about the free series with magnets?
I've been using it for 6 years. I'm currently on my third one - not because it failed but I lost one and had another stolen from me. As far as I'm concerned its the best multitool in the world. I never concidered them too heavy but on a my duty belt weight keeps adding up. Since I run more often than I need a heavy duty multitool at work I have replaced it with a SOG power pint.
I’ve heard mixed reviews of the Power Pint, but it looks like a nice compact tool. Now that I have full sized tools from other manufacturers I think I’m even more convinced the Surge is the best on the market 😂
@@inkiron3907 I think the mixed reviews is due to people comparing apples and oranges. The Power Pint is in the same size cathegory as the leatherman Micra or the later Style PS tools. Its about as long as a victorinox swisschamp but only half as thick. Its really a feat of engineering how much they managed to squeeze into such a small tool and how much more capable it is compared to other tools its size. It really punches way above its weight. Time will tell how it holds up but I have had zero issues so far. It certainly one for the shopping list of any multitool entusiast :)
And yes, I bought a Gerber Centerdrive a while back. They really cant hold a candle to the Surge. The Centerdrive is a popular tool but the Surge makes it feel like a cheap toy.
Okay Joe, You did it. You ask what? Well I went to Indigeoo and bit the bullet. I pledged for the full Monty. $219 with the works. Can’t wait to see it. I still think the Surge may be the winner between the two, but I had to see what I could possibly get. Thanks
The Ultimate WEAKST point about the surge is the scissors construction. The way that the spring is held in place by 2 little metaldimbles , one visible one hidden, makes room for hard failure of the mechanism where one of the little dimbles break for seemingly no reason. This cannot be fixed by yourself unless you replace the entire mechanism.
I believe it's the essential craftsman on you tube that has a video of hooking your plyers in a vice and the other part of the handle to a reciprocating saw and running it for a couple minutes to loosen up the plyers. Worked great for me, just add a drop of oil before you get started.
27:39 you can't pry open things with the bit driver also for plugs where you can't get to with the bit driver the small driver is very good at that so i think it's great as it is use it 6days a week with bit kits and rachet driver love my surge thanks for sharing this video with us 👍
I love mine had it for 2 years.. im thinking about buy the us replacement 5 bit set just for the true number 1 and 2 Phillips and keeping the number 1 and 2 combo that comes with the surge in the case.. im a mechanic alot of the fastners I deal with someone else has already messed with so alot of semi stripped phillips
Nice! That a good idea. You could also consider the Bit Driver Extender accessory that converts the 2D driver into a 1/4 hex bit driver and adds 3in of reach, if you need even more capability
I've heard the black oxide version is stiffer, but also helps resist rust. Which I've also heard can happen to the normal edition. Mind you that's likely caused by user neglect but still something to consider.
I definitely neglected mine for the first 4 years and it had surprisingly little rust. It was always in my pocket getting dusted with chemicals like caustic soda
I've been a SOG fan for ever now. I'M going to try a Surge this week to see what all the noise is about. I wish there was a Leatherman model bigger then the Surge. My powerassist is 4.6 inches closed 7 open. That's what I like about it. I am writing to leatherman this week to advise them hopefully I can get through. I dont see the link? You were talking about.
I have the gen 1 surge, it's held up to young me being an idiot to it. It still functions perfectly
There's bunch of amazing multi tools. Especially from Leatherman. But somehow im ended in 2 Surges gen 2. I dont have another type of LM. Just a stainless version n stainless n black oxydized version n some accessories (ratchet adaptor, bitkits, spare blade n those vast replaceable jigsaws 😎😁
I'm at 5 years with mine also still great shape I did buy both coated and uncoated at same time I use my coated everyday for 5 years the plain ones the big flathead snapped on that one unfortunately
That’s the second broken driver I’ve heard of on a Surge. I’m surprised!
I think the wide flat driver is meant to be more of a pry bar, so it's not really "another screwdriver". Thanks for the review!
Also, have you tried loosening the inner tools just a touch? You can get the safety bits and take it apart, gets some good tool lube, coat the axel, and then locktite the “pivot” and put it back together just a touch less tight. They’re probably be pretty easy to open after that
I have taken it apart actually, but even stropping the tools and lubricating them only barely improved the action. Loosening the pivot from its current adjustment gave the tools some play… eh, I just live with it 😏
Just got my SS version yesterday. Bit kit, extension, and other goodies enroute.
LOVE that mat on your workbench. Do you have a link for it you'd be willing to post? GREAT video on the Surge, btw!!!
Great review 👍 I carry the Surge also at my job as an aircraft mechanic and the bit kit, ratchet and driver extension and also pair it with the Crunch and there's not much I run into that I can't handle and it's saved so many trips to the tool box. I have a pretty good collection of multitools like Leatherman, Gerber's and a few Sog and from time to time I would buy something new and try it but I'd always end up going back to the Surge. Haven't found anything that compares 100% some come close but...
Disengage the can opener with the multitool closed, then put the wire you need to strip in the can opener cutter slot, that will strip the wire with ez. Utube it if I didnt explain it good enough.
They need a titanium version of the surge.
Minor correction: You noted the can opener leaves a continuous pattern of waves. In this case my understanding is that it's actually a continuous pattern of surges. ;p It's quite appropriate, however, that you use the awl "awl the time". Thanks for the detailed review! (I am guessing this is the same Surge you recently dunked in an industrial solvent?)
Good observations 😂 yeah it’s the same Surge
Funny I made the exact same transition from the suspension to the surge!
Nice!
Lol me too so funny!!
I'm kinda big. 6ft1 212. I don't even know I have the Surge in my pocket with the clip.
If the surge had a clip and 2 T-tool mounts it would be perfect so you could have both a competent saw and a file on there all the time.
Hi Joe, thank you for the vid(s). I'm just out of a few hours of binge viewing and made a decision on the surge. Thank you. Do you have a amazon link to where I could make the purchase and you get a kickback?
I appreciate the support but I have no kickback available to me right now. Go ahead and buy a Surge from your preferred retailer 👍 and thanks for watching
My top multitools are as follows:
1) Leatherman wave: has everything you need and perfect size
2) victorinox Swiss tool spirit x love the extras like the package opener and the butcher knife
3) Leatherman surge. Love the scissors don’t like you have to interchange the saw and file
Nice picks! I do wish the Surge wasn’t a literal brick, but it’s worth the weight IMO. I always wanted to try the Swisstool Spirit X. Ha well I’m lucky that I never need a saw 😆
@@inkiron3907 yes! Swisstool spirit x is amazing. Always owned Leatherman and gerber. And this blew me away! Only thing it’s lacking is pocket clip
If you’re looking for The most professionnal one (easy and secure use, heavy duty, all acces with gloves, better weight, longer saw and screw driver, bit accesories and last but not least, better price…)
Buy the Super Tool 300!
I just got my Surge today. evrything is rock solid, strong and tight fit. But just one thing the back lock lever for the can opener and driver bit holder is loose and got a bit of moving when it is closed. that making some kind of clicking sound. only one side does this. is it normal?
I use the replaceable saws all the time, and the other tools. Even if you hurt most of it it is replaceable anyway.
I think the best multitool is the swisstool spirit X but the surge is good too
I broke small flathead screwdriver the third time I used it. And the screw wasn't even seized. Luckily, I live in eastern Europe and I bought my surge (new) on some local market, so the 25 years warranty will surely do the trick to solve it... :)
That’s odd! Sounds like possible manufacturing defect. I hope Leatherman takes care of you if your pursue the Warranty route
@@inkiron3907 Hopefully, if I ever stop by in Portland, guys from HQ will fix that for me :)
I did buy a new product (new in box and all that comes within), but not from an official dealer, so I don't have a proof of purchase. I too am convinced that it's a manufacturing defect, as I really didn't put out much force on it at all.
On the other hand, it's an ideal excuse for some mods, just to see which one would make sense... :)
@@garfieldfurball1195 There’s no dam way brio I’ve used the screwdriver to pry open a bedroom window when it got painted shut and it was freezing outside so I had no choice to get the window open or freeze and I put all my weight into it almost hanging off of it and finally popped the window open so there’s no way it broke doing a screw bro stop that BS or put a pic of it on here
@@75thteaster54 yeap, there is damn way. (You'll get the picture in a week or so)
The corner just chipped of, with little to no force used. Seems that 420hc isn't that durable. On the other hand, fyi, large/medium flathead screwdriver on the charge also doesn't shine. That one just twisted along its longitudinal axis when I tried to unwind a stick screw in some old couch. If you need a tool, don't use a multitool :)
@@75thteaster54 how do you want me to send you a broken screwdriver photo?
So I have to say that this video, was probably the catalyst for me subbing to your channel. I have always "respected" the Surge, but felt it was too heavy. Well, I have stopped being a prima donna about the Surge's weight, and now I can say I am a believer. I have owned my Surge for about a month. I definitely like it more clipped to my pocket, than at the bottom of my pocket, although I will say that Leatherman should refine the clip a little better for the Surge. I am amazed at this tool set, it quite literally hits every tool that I like to carry, and the scissors...well they are unrelenting. Move over Victorinox, these are your scissors killer! As for the rest of the tools love the simplicity, and yet I'm thinking of modding the smaller flat bladed screwdriver into more of a chisel, than a screwdriver. I have been very snobbish about only carrying a Victorinox brand. One reason was because of the scale tools. I have recently found that the scale tools I carried in the Handyman are easily stowable. I have a small ferro rod under the saw, and the tweezers under the serrated blade. Well, I can say that I am very satisfied with the Surge thus far, have to give credit to your channel for highlighting the tool from a user perspective, and not from someone pushing to sell gear, who has only handled it for a week.
Thanks for appreciating my real experience. I might have to try that tweezers under the serrated blade trick! I think you’ll enjoy the Surge for a good long time
I ordered a $125 Multi-tool from an upstart company using Indego 2 years ago and never got the tool, wasn't the one you listed but I'll never do that again. If they're a good tool, I'll wait til they're mass produced before trusting Indego again.
Ah that sucks! I am still waiting for the GOAT so I hope it doesn’t disappear. Startup companies are always a dice roll 🙄
What was neeeded to be done to keep the black oxide from getting all over things and how did you get it looking so nice? Thanks.
Check the “Surge Cleaning” link in the video description and you can see the whole process 👍
The only thing I would like in the surge is to have spring-loaded pliers so that they spring back open
That’s a decent idea. The handles are quite large relative to other tools so it would probably increase dexterity
Is the Gerber NXT as nasty to grip as it looks ? I've got a Dime and it's a really cheap handy little keyring tool, but the ergo is horrendous !
I've had a S/H Wave for 12yrs.
But now I'm waiting on a crazy cheap Surge I got on Cyber Monday for US$101. They're usually US$160 in Australia. (in stainless, no bit kit) So I'm really, really, happy with that, as very few shops here sell Leatherman.
NXT has hot spots if it's closed and you're using the outside tools, but opened the frame is folded over so it fairly comfortable, although the grip is a bit wide. It's actually a really nice multi for the price, decent tools and everything locks, really not bad for $25.
“That’s kind of steep”
Followed by
“I can’t imagine how much effort it would take to break this”
Lmao. I mean you literally just provided the reason it’s so expensive
Oh the price is now justified IMO but before I bought it I was skeptical!
i used leatherman for many years but that black oxide didn't last for me, when i used it to hit the nail it broke that black oxide is brittle than the stainless steel, for me much durable the stainless leatherman than black oxide
I checked out the GOAT Multitool... I like the idea, however, it doesn't look very sturdy and it's also very "boxy".... but so did the first Leatherman PST... They don't mention anything about a warranty on the GOAT, that might be a deal breaker for me
Good point, I have no idea what the warranty situation is at this time…
First time i used wave, second time used change tti, after i used surga, now surge my edc, because surga no like toy.
The Goat multitool looks like it has potential, but seeing as they are still in the prototype stage with shipping est to be 9 months away and still limited available mods for the tool I think it still remains to be seen if they can make it successful.
They have surpassed their original funding goal by 10x, they have some nice features, but there's not yet many available mods for it. I'd rather just buy a surge and have it next week than pay as much as a surge for a still inferior tool that may or may not arrive in 9 months.
No one is making you buy it, do whatever you want as long as you come back and check out mine when I get it. I'm into it because I want to make my own tools and mods. It's no more ludicrous than the people spending double what they paid on a Free P4 just to mod it to a condition where it's actually a useful tool.
@@inkiron3907 i'll definitely come check it out :P
Lmao, "Your dick and balls don't need to be part of everything." You seem like a cool dude👍
The review was great. It makes me more inclined to buy a Surge knowing you beat the shit out of it for 5 years and it's still going(I'm still undecided between it and a Swisstool X).
Thanks for the support. I’m getting like equal parts agreement and spite from the comments 😂
That’s a fantastic two choices to work with. The SwissTool is definitely the better fit and finish, but the Surge is more robust. I wouldn’t use the SwissTool as a hammer, for instance. But you pay the price of the huge weight of the Surge every day and not all it’s tools are accessible from the outside…
This is making me feel like I need to shoot a comparison video for those tools. After the Showdowns are done I’ll have a wealth of info to compare! Thanks
@@inkiron3907 No problem! Oddly it takes balls to have an opinion like that on a channel about something like tools (I imagine the people on a gun channel would hate that opinion too lol).
So I found out Leatherman has a student discount of 40% and was like holy shit. So I used it and got a Surge, ratchet driver, and Rebar all for what just the Surge would have costed without the discount. So I'm excited to get all that hopefully in less than a week.
You should! A comparison of the two would be great! I think they're honestly two of the best workhorses, so a video like that would help a lot of people.
The crotch of the tool 😂. You killed me
So the wave plus or the surge?
Can someone let me know the leathermans with the drive extender bit swap adapters? Doesn't have to be all of them maybe just the latest and M style tools
Light duty Skeletool standard/ medium duty size is wave/charge heavy duty surge and super tool 300m . but the models with the truss style long phillps i.e rebar for medium duty or super tool 300 for heavy duty leatherman has a sleeve that goes over that allows you to use the bits. It's actually makes the reach longer than the exchanger with the extension only downside is you have to have the sleeve with you .. but most people keep the standard bit that comes with the tool in the exchanger the number 1 and 2 combo Phillips with a 3/16 flat on the other end ..both the rebar and supertool 300 have that in the tool set ..so unless you need a odd size on hand your not losing any capabilities other than needing the sleeve with you
@@Davidg368 Super David thank's. Just ain't got the time to be lookin in depth online & I just hope that with the super 300m I went for is blast proof in case I accidentally leave it laying in a blast area like I did with my wave :( lol again I need that reach as well as being able to see what I'm doing which is perfect and all I really needed as well as the bits.
Why didn't they put the awl or saw bit in the wave + ?
I don’t know
Hello guys please can someone help me ..... just bought a new surge but when it's fully closed the handles do not line up exactly... is this OK 👍🏻 and normal please guys ? ? ?
If it still functions well then I would think it’s fine. My handles don’t line up from hard use and drops. Still works like it should. If you’re bothered by it, use that Leatherman 25 year warranty to replace it
@@inkiron3907 Hi, mine is almost new, it is normal that the handles don' t line up perfectly. Don' t know why, but it is as it is.
stacked like a brick shithouse at 145, damn those were the days!
😂 I don’t know if I’m stacked but I do feel strong, so that’s nice
Thanks! Great review. Very useful for us prospective buyers.
One piece of advice: For the love of god leave out the ridiculous tools gender BS overreaction. We have enough of that dogmatic BS in society already.
Thanks for watching. I will say whatever I want and you can deal with it 👍
Wave plus or the surge? For a mountain biker/hiker?
It would really help me alot :)
Since you’re hiking and being active the Wave Plus will probably be better for you. Saves 1/4lb of weight and is more compact with very similar tools and capabilities. Also has the 25 year warranty so it’s good to go!
@@inkiron3907 Sorry i forgot to mention weight is not a problem thats my bad :)
For your mountain bike you'll want to add the bit kit and a driver extender whether you buy the Surge or the Wave. You can sort out which hex and torx drivers you'll need for your bike before you go out so that you're not carrying superfluous items if you want to save a bit of space and weight.
Go big! Surge
That’s a cable or hard wire cutter in the “crotch” as you say. It’s demonstrated on the official leatherman video on the surge.
Ah I thought maybe it was a cable crimper or something. Thanks!
its actually both. the one right in the croch is the hard wire cutter and the one next to it is a crimper
@@inkiron3907 I believe Leatherman calls the inside tool a "stranded wire cutter"....it is followed by the wire crimper...
Is it stiff?
Is It can cut small padlock??
Maybe? I have never attempted it
mine was 170€ with the bit set
Damn that’s pricey. I hope you like it!
Thanks for the review. Just checked out the GOAT, pass. They are a month past their eta date and haven’t even begun production. 12 left (@ time of this posting) @ $99… the tool may be modular, but doesn’t look durable. I would never trust a blade that sacrifices strength like they did.
Just bought a Surge on eBay, can’t wait to replace my Gerber Suspension OG (needed a cheap replacement when someone stole my M600, I miss the flip out)
Production for the GOAT got really screwed up by the pandemic. I hope it’s good after waiting so long. I don’t need a “strong” knife, just a sharp one. I never pry with a blade
A Surge will be good. You get larger tools without the OTF function on the pliers. Not as quick, but very capable
@@inkiron3907 every tool has a purpose. Hope it holds a sharp edge for you very well.
I just wanted an EDC that would also serve as a long term survival piece if shtf. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast 😂
there is a multitool that can compete with the surge, made since 1997 the swisstool x (the big one, not the spirit). Both have their pros and cons and i can only compare it to my old wave here and it is just a lot better quality. The pliers are very beefy (sadly no replacable cutters) and the tools overall very good. No onehand opening (thats even a plus here in germany). Think of it as the spirit on steroids.
Will the scissors cut hair?
Yeah, under normal conditions. Maybe not if the hair is twisted up like a genuine rope
I paid 8 . But it was rusted frozen every part.
Nice video. Very informative. Use less ads please.
Thanks for watching. I’ll use whatever ads I want because it’s my channel
I have a gen 1 surge black still going strong after 15 yrs, Really, I wonder if your car would be stiff if you hadn't oiled it or adjusted anything for 5 yrs, 😐
Had I cared for it better it might be smoother 🤷🏽♂️
@@inkiron3907 You know it's not to late to give it a little TLC & Squirt, Surge looks after you, I have a wingman, charge & numerous victorinox all are great in their application, some have been stolen but their can only be One, Surge lives in my truck 👍😊
na bro i have a silver one and its stiff too dont worry lol
**laughs in swisstool**
Oh knock off the virtue signalling. "Gentleman of all trades" is an established meaning, as is "gentleman's knife". Get over it. And then later you start crowing at how you call things what you want to, and sod everyone else. LOL.
Your opinion is as meaningless as my own 👍
Isn’t it ‘Jack of all trades?’ I’m English so maybe a U.S. / uk thing.
If I ever caught an employee using a multi tool on a job he gets his walking papers, use the proper tool for a task and not some cheap knock of multi tool crap on a job. keep your multi tool in a tacklebox where it belongs
Depends on the job. Landscapers, HVAC installers, and electricians seem to find a lot of use in a Multitool. But I’ve worked in a lab where high-pressure vessels had brass hardware and I stuck to a Knipex pliers wrench or proper fixed wrench for that hardware and adjustment. As soon as hardware damage is unacceptable, the multitool becomes a secondary tool
There is no surge killer. Click bait!
Click bait? Damn straight! I’m trying to make that ad money 😂
Give that tool to a private just out of basic that tool it will be broken in under 5 min.,
145 ? Go eat.
I’m buying and testing it so others don’t have to 👍
Hello maybe Leatherman surge is not to compare with European victorinox Swisschamp, but with VICTORINOX SWISSTOOL plier based multitool.
I have 7 leatherman and 3 victorinox but the swisstool model.
I'd like that leatherman reach the victorinox quality standards!!
Leatherman have a fantastic and super serious customer service!
Good materials and designs, but built quality is inferior to Swiss victorinox multitools. Shame.
The SwissChamp and Surge are hard to compare, as they are meant for different uses. A better comparison is probably the SwissTool which I like as much as my Surge and is more compact and nice looking
26:24 Oof, your closing comments about the GOAT name earned your video a thumbs down from me.
Oof too bad I don’t care about your opinion because I’m the one putting myself out there while you comment. Thanks for the view!
@@inkiron3907 thanks anyhow for your videos, they're good to watch and informative.
Ok. Let's call everything gender non specific. What a .....
Pliers on multi tools are ALL GARBAGE! nothing but a worthless gimmick.... give me the
BIG IDEA DESIGN Ti EDC Wrench BIG IDEA DESIGN Ti EDC Wrench, something worthwhile
Good video but didn't like the feminist comment at the end.
Thanks for compartmentalizing your comment. Thanks for watching. I get to say whatever the fuck I want because it’s my channel 👍
You'll say what UA-cam allows you to say. 😏 LOL
oh boy give him a break. you don’t like what he says than don’t watch the video. Worlds gone way too soft these days. Nitpicking every word someone says
Here we go again with the feminist cry baby
Don’t let people bring you down this is an amazing informative video
G.o.A.T. name is fine, no need to rant about it....
I felt a need. Deal with it