@@caske77 do you guys know how Oden lost his eye he sacrificed it I can’t exactly remember what he gave it to, but they gave him so much power even rivals all the infinity stones well in the comics at least they probably NERFED it like everything they do
I don’t think Thanos necessarily feared anything, not even Death💀. He was a master strategist and extremely patient. And when it came to completing his mission he was also cautious at times. He would have known of Odis’s power, most likely even respected it. As he did with Stark during the Battle of Titan. Thanos made his move almost immediately after Ragnarök because he knew Hela’s return meant Odin’s death. He also knew it meant Thor, Loki, and the Asgardian’s were vulnerable and the Space Stone was his for the taking. The perfect time to begin his conquest for the Stones.
@kevjd24 not to disagree with you....bit literally asgardians are the only thing thanos feared....and I think you underestimate odin....the 9 reams were under odin's protection,if thanos wasn't afraid he would have invaded them anyways just like he did to other planets....like odin is practically invincible....
@@x_xeavia9532 You are assuming fear is the reason he didn’t start his conquest sooner, but it was more likely strategy. He most likely knew of Odin’s great power (and Hela’s) and the control Odin had over the 9 realms. If he knew about Surtr and Ragnarok, which it seems like he did, then once the 9 realms plunged into chaos after Loki trapped Odin, then instead of battling a very powerful Asgardian army, led by either Odin or Hela, all he needs to do is wait until Asgard is destroyed, show up and steal the Space Stone. That’s strategy. Btw, I love Odin. “A wise king never seeks out war, but must always be ready for it.” -Odin the All-Father
@majzerofive not really. They already introduced Eternity. And they could easily explain the difference between Cosmic entity Death and Planet level God death. In this instance Hela.
@majzerofive yes they didn't explain. But remember Marvel has a lot of fans that have read the comics. And the comic readers are the core fans. And already for years complain that they did not keep Thanos true to his comic book version concerning Death. And remember I am not rallying for them to put death in there I'm just saying that is the difference.
Also, the mind stone manipulates its wielder and anyone else nearby to it's own purposes. Thanos couldn't risk having the mind stone anywhere near him until he has already won: it had to be the last stone.
You know surtur, the giant fire demon that destroys asgard? Yeah odin fought him when he was giant, seperated the eternal flame from him. Thanos would not have a chance.
I think Thanos also knew about the consciousness within the mindstone that would eventually become Ultron. I think Thanos had a plan A and a plan B. Loki succeeding was plan A, but I think he always expected Loki to fail and if he didn’t fail, that would just be a bonus win. But, I think plan B was for Loki to fail, then the mindstone would fall into the hands of the humans who’s ignorant curiosity would lead them to meddle with the intelligence they would discover within the mindstone, accidentally releasing it (Ultron) who would then destroy half or more of all life on the planet. I think Thanos was very familiar with who and what Ultron was, having probably put him in the mindstone directly. Despite What If…, I think Thanos had an easy way to defeat Ultron and planned on coming to Earth once Ultron finished wiping out life on the planet and then just easily taking out Ultron and recollecting the mindstone. It was only after Ultron failed that Thanos had to revert to a plan C which was him doing it all himself.
Thats why he says at the end of “Age of Ultron” in the post credits scene while grabbing the gauntlet “fine, I’ll do it myself” because that Ultron plan didn’t go the way he wanted it to.
This type of attention to detail across movies is why the Infinity saga will always be the best you’re going to see from the MCU. The continuity and random hints and details you find when rewatching is crazy.
This can be true yes. Because Bifrost was gone and there wasn't any other way but Odin use something to send Thor to Earth which is "Dark Magic". Other part is true too. Rocket and Thor saw that infinity gauntlet was been made. It could be different sizes until it fits Thanos hand perfectly.
The comic book version of the story is so much better than anything Disney conjured up. They even changed the reason why Thanos was taking half of the people from the universe. He was trying to please his lady Death and court her.
And that's a better movie? Killing half of all life to please the avatar of death? I would have loved it, but you can't act like it was an easy decision.
How come MCU Thanos doesn't use the Infinity Stones to create and provide enough resources for everybody in the universe?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Forgetting one thing in thor ragnarok Loki cast a spell on Odin was sitting on the throne which was another time the realms wasn’t being watched and Handal was busy saving asgardians to pay attention to the nine realms
This rarely happens in these theory videos, but that makes a shitload of sense. He couldn't make the gauntlet with the old man around, so working out a plan that weakens him into a coma would be the most logical thing. But that raises a question. How does Thanos know about this dark energy transport power and how does he know it would KO Odin? I know he's a genius but still
No, the mindstone sought a consort and avatar and found them on Earth in Wanda Maximoff and the Vision. She's the only human to touch it and live and she hexed Tony who created Ultron who created Vision who became the Mindstone's human incarnation. It/he and Wanda had supernatural children, Billy and Tommy. She became the most powerful human in the MCU. It manipulated Thanos and Loki. It was the Mindstone all along!
If his main goal was to collect all six Infinity Stones and he already had one in his possession to hand it over to someone not knowing if it could get lost hidden forever destroyed and prevent his plan. But the mind Stone actually gave him the mental awareness to know that giving it to Loki was the only way to ultimately collect all 6 it also gave him the mental awareness and intelligence to know the true power of all the Infinity Stones and to know that been together could actually achieve the goals he was trying to achieve. So had he not have had the mind Stone to start you may never have even gathered the rest of them or even been able to put together the plan that would be to use them all synchronously to eradicate half of all life yeah the intelligence and mental awareness to put this plant together because the mind Stone showed in that it was possible if he collected all the stones and would have shown him the path he would have needed to take in order to make that happen which was to start out by giving away the only Stone he had collected so far in order to get the rest of the stone and an to complete the entire set
Fair enough, but Heimdall should have seen it and at the very least been like this guys messing with the dwarves. Weak or not Odin's not just gonna let that slide.
That... doesn't explain why he gave Loki an infinity Stone just like that... The real reason is because by that point Marvel didn't decide the scepter was the Mind Stone...
Just so you know, Thanos was still scared of Odin, which at this point had been greatly weakened from his prime. A prime Odin can fight against multiple celestials at once and still repel them
Bruh, Odin said Thor was stronger than himself in Ragnarok and Thanos was shown to be stronger than Thor so I really don’t think he was scared of Odin.
There's a deleted scene from that movie where Thor gets the Odin Force after Odin dies. Thor is not more powerful than Odin, not without the Odin Force at least.
Fragile planet like earth? Thanos and his army get clapped if all superheroes of earth come together including mutants, fantastic four, ghost rider and etc.
But Earth IS one of the nine realms, it's Midgard... So it would have been equally difficult for Odin to reach either place and it would have made more sense for him to send Thor to save the dwarves and stop Thanos and sacrifice Earth so Thanos could never use the stones,
The timeline doesn’t line up. Thanos didn’t visit Nidavellir until after Ragnarok because it’s still under the protection of Asgard. If you’re saying Thanos attacked Nidavellir before the events of Thor: The Dark World, where Odin can be seen at nearly full power, then why didn’t Thor know about it? Why didn’t Odin remove Eitri’s shackles?
You're giving Marvel too much credit because when the first Avengers movie happened they didn't know they were telling the Infinity Saga yet. How do I know this? Well because Joss Whedon is on record saying he only put Thanos in he mid-credits as being the one behind Loki's invasion because he liked Thanos. Marvel wants us to think and indeed they have some people believing they knew what big story they were telling out of the gate but I think they started to figure it out just before or after Thor The Dark World.
Dude, in The Dark World, they said that the Dark Elf Malekieth or whatever his name was created the reality stone. We find out later that he did not create the stone, just the casing for it. They changed the story as they went forward with it.
The only problem in this theory is that Earth or Midgard is also in the nine realms protected by Odin along with Nidalvilir...He wouldnt see Earth as fragile if he knew Odin and Asgard was protecting it.
this is a big thing to ignore. It makes more sense that thanos used loki as a cutout or proxy that would only minorly annoy odin instead of put odin on war footing.
which was another reason why capt marvel was odd...that one guy just tried to nuke the whole state of arizona in 1994...where was odin then, huh?🙄@@achikavengergarohills3048
I like how they actually made the space and time stones as separate stones and they just happened to be the two stones that were located on Earth... But the fact that's really funny about the making them two separate Stones is that each stone is essentially the same thing... So in my opinion there's only five stones with one duplicate because space is time and time is space they are both one in the same and you can't have one without the other so making a two separate litteealy makes no sense
No, loki made thanos give him the space stone because it's the safest stone for him that can't affect too much of the timeline. How? He's the God of Time today so obviously he has access to timelines.
When in the actual hell did he use the soul stone or better yet when did Thanos give it to him he was obsessed with the space stone he gave his life for it
It's a good theory but the events don't line up...seeing as Odin slipped into the coma in Thor and woke at the end of Thor & before the first Avengers movie.
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I bet even MARVEL didn't know this😂
They hint at it through Loki's mouth
Nah this is very possible 😂😂
Well Thanos is gonna watch this video to make this 6d chess move.
@@caske77 do you guys know how Oden lost his eye he sacrificed it I can’t exactly remember what he gave it to, but they gave him so much power even rivals all the infinity stones well in the comics at least they probably NERFED it like everything they do
Sacrificing his eye gave him wisdom, not necessarily power
He was afraid of odin...very same reason why he waited until odin was dead to invade earth and killed half of the population
Yeah also a good reason but he needed to make the gauntlet first
Don't forget hela
I don’t think Thanos necessarily feared anything, not even Death💀. He was a master strategist and extremely patient. And when it came to completing his mission he was also cautious at times. He would have known of Odis’s power, most likely even respected it. As he did with Stark during the Battle of Titan. Thanos made his move almost immediately after Ragnarök because he knew Hela’s return meant Odin’s death. He also knew it meant Thor, Loki, and the Asgardian’s were vulnerable and the Space Stone was his for the taking. The perfect time to begin his conquest for the Stones.
@kevjd24 not to disagree with you....bit literally asgardians are the only thing thanos feared....and I think you underestimate odin....the 9 reams were under odin's protection,if thanos wasn't afraid he would have invaded them anyways just like he did to other planets....like odin is practically invincible....
@@x_xeavia9532 You are assuming fear is the reason he didn’t start his conquest sooner, but it was more likely strategy. He most likely knew of Odin’s great power (and Hela’s) and the control Odin had over the 9 realms. If he knew about Surtr and Ragnarok, which it seems like he did, then once the 9 realms plunged into chaos after Loki trapped Odin, then instead of battling a very powerful Asgardian army, led by either Odin or Hela, all he needs to do is wait until Asgard is destroyed, show up and steal the Space Stone. That’s strategy. Btw, I love Odin.
“A wise king never seeks out war, but must always be ready for it.”
-Odin the All-Father
Maybe that's why Thanos began his quest for balance. He had the mind stone the whole time, and it probably showed him.
i still dont get how he would give his only stone to loki
Yeah right
Disney made him require balance. In the comics he's simply wanted to sacrifice half the universe's population to win lady death's heart
@majzerofive not really. They already introduced Eternity. And they could easily explain the difference between Cosmic entity Death and Planet level God death. In this instance Hela.
@majzerofive yes they didn't explain. But remember Marvel has a lot of fans that have read the comics. And the comic readers are the core fans. And already for years complain that they did not keep Thanos true to his comic book version concerning Death.
And remember I am not rallying for them to put death in there I'm just saying that is the difference.
That's actually a really good explanation
Smart as* Thanos
Also, the mind stone manipulates its wielder and anyone else nearby to it's own purposes. Thanos couldn't risk having the mind stone anywhere near him until he has already won: it had to be the last stone.
I wanted to see what if Thanos invaded earth when Odin was alive ??
You know surtur, the giant fire demon that destroys asgard? Yeah odin fought him when he was giant, seperated the eternal flame from him. Thanos would not have a chance.
If Thanos invaded Earth while Odin was alive then
Thanos=💀 (Blud is dead)
@@GodsDumbLamb😂🎉
Because Thanos learns from his mistake
rise my child
And what was the mistake ?
Yes bro
Because I'm Batman 🕷
"That's how thanos gave loki the mind stone"
😂😂
@@caske77 CLEAN and SIMPLE
Gosh!!!
The best theory ever!!;
I think Thanos also knew about the consciousness within the mindstone that would eventually become Ultron. I think Thanos had a plan A and a plan B. Loki succeeding was plan A, but I think he always expected Loki to fail and if he didn’t fail, that would just be a bonus win. But, I think plan B was for Loki to fail, then the mindstone would fall into the hands of the humans who’s ignorant curiosity would lead them to meddle with the intelligence they would discover within the mindstone, accidentally releasing it (Ultron) who would then destroy half or more of all life on the planet. I think Thanos was very familiar with who and what Ultron was, having probably put him in the mindstone directly. Despite What If…, I think Thanos had an easy way to defeat Ultron and planned on coming to Earth once Ultron finished wiping out life on the planet and then just easily taking out Ultron and recollecting the mindstone. It was only after Ultron failed that Thanos had to revert to a plan C which was him doing it all himself.
You can see in What If episode what would happen If Ultron defeated avengers… He started conquering every universe
I guess he didn't know about Infinity Ultron😂
Nice theory bro
😮
Thats why he says at the end of “Age of Ultron” in the post credits scene while grabbing the gauntlet “fine, I’ll do it myself” because that Ultron plan didn’t go the way he wanted it to.
Marvel writers : “uhhhh yeah that’s what we meant to do”
Mobius: That make sense.
Would be cool if Secret Wars somehow showed us Odin versus Thanos
This type of attention to detail across movies is why the Infinity saga will always be the best you’re going to see from the MCU. The continuity and random hints and details you find when rewatching is crazy.
That and countless plot holes or errors
And that is why my fav potential duo is 🔥Thanos and Loki✨
Because he used the Mind Stone to fuel Loki’s rage and sent him to Earth.
get this man as marvel scriptwriter the storyline would be insane
This can be true yes. Because Bifrost was gone and there wasn't any other way but Odin use something to send Thor to Earth which is "Dark Magic". Other part is true too. Rocket and Thor saw that infinity gauntlet was been made. It could be different sizes until it fits Thanos hand perfectly.
See this is why i love these vids
The writers: Oh yeah never thought of that
That actually is very sound, but one issue it was after Loki banished Odin in dark world . After which thanos was able to go to nidaveliar
No, I think Thanos went to Nidavellir during Dark World and Ragnarok time gap.
Because Thanos is a master strategist
And really God Loki made it all happen
The MCU really didn’t tell the story of Odin well enough. That man was too powerful to not have his own franchise
I've always wanted to visit Neda Vallyeer. It looks really fun.
Loki>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thanos😊
The comic book version of the story is so much better than anything Disney conjured up. They even changed the reason why Thanos was taking half of the people from the universe. He was trying to please his lady Death and court her.
And that's a better movie? Killing half of all life to please the avatar of death? I would have loved it, but you can't act like it was an easy decision.
The one time these videos actually make sense
Thanos is smart asf the movies does him no justice compared to the comics
He also used the mind stone to influence and corrupt Loki, so that he basically becomes his pawn
I thought it was to test and see if Captain Marvel would arrive and destroy everything.. given she did that in the 90s against the cree ships.
Because I'm batman 🕷
Smart villan
You're stretching more than Mr Fantastic..
How come MCU Thanos doesn't use the Infinity Stones to create and provide enough resources for everybody in the universe?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Earth being a fragile planet… has had 3 infinity stones on it at one point.
That’s 3 out of 5… the two were SOMEWHERE ELSE.
Oooh Man You're AWESOME!
What if Odin faked his death 🥶
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Must be in the families loki did it multiple times
Wow this is a REALLY good theory
Forgetting one thing in thor ragnarok Loki cast a spell on Odin was sitting on the throne which was another time the realms wasn’t being watched and Handal was busy saving asgardians to pay attention to the nine realms
I've been thinking about this for a long time
This rarely happens in these theory videos, but that makes a shitload of sense. He couldn't make the gauntlet with the old man around, so working out a plan that weakens him into a coma would be the most logical thing. But that raises a question. How does Thanos know about this dark energy transport power and how does he know it would KO Odin? I know he's a genius but still
Nice explanation
No, the mindstone sought a consort and avatar and found them on Earth in Wanda Maximoff and the Vision. She's the only human to touch it and live and she hexed Tony who created Ultron who created Vision who became the Mindstone's human incarnation. It/he and Wanda had supernatural children, Billy and Tommy. She became the most powerful human in the MCU. It manipulated Thanos and Loki. It was the Mindstone all along!
That went perfect
Interesting 🤔
OH WOW🤘😝🤘 THAT MAKES SENSE.
Because Earth is also under Asgards protection, nice.
Its kinda funny... The first stone Thanos had was also the last one he collected. Sounds sort of Biblical.
Ahh, some good insights!
Marvel: “write that down”
If his main goal was to collect all six Infinity Stones and he already had one in his possession to hand it over to someone not knowing if it could get lost hidden forever destroyed and prevent his plan. But the mind Stone actually gave him the mental awareness to know that giving it to Loki was the only way to ultimately collect all 6 it also gave him the mental awareness and intelligence to know the true power of all the Infinity Stones and to know that been together could actually achieve the goals he was trying to achieve. So had he not have had the mind Stone to start you may never have even gathered the rest of them or even been able to put together the plan that would be to use them all synchronously to eradicate half of all life yeah the intelligence and mental awareness to put this plant together because the mind Stone showed in that it was possible if he collected all the stones and would have shown him the path he would have needed to take in order to make that happen which was to start out by giving away the only Stone he had collected so far in order to get the rest of the stone and an to complete the entire set
Wow that's something that I didn't know that.
no no he was also afraid of Ancient One
Ancient One with Hela, Odin, Ego and also Dormamu(i think) were bugfest threds for thanis
@@Dr.DoomSlayerwere you saying "biggest threat to Thanos "
Yeah that was later part
@@Dr.DoomSlayerDude atleast check out your spellings mistakes once before commenting
Fair enough, but Heimdall should have seen it and at the very least been like this guys messing with the dwarves. Weak or not Odin's not just gonna let that slide.
This is so deep; sure, not even Thanks thought about this lol
Thanos is soo smart 🤓🤓
This guy iq is on next level
The simpler explanation is that the plot needs the stone and Marvel wants to introduce the mind stone in the MCU
If this was the real reason, it's 200 IQ
Thanos was PETRIFIED of Odin.
That... doesn't explain why he gave Loki an infinity Stone just like that...
The real reason is because by that point Marvel didn't decide the scepter was the Mind Stone...
This probs the first time one of those AI movie channels has taught me anything lmao
Then why did thanos from the past attack earth in endgame? He didnt know if odin was dead
he know because asgard had the tesseract and the reality stone that time
Nebula more than likely had that information stored
Just so you know, Thanos was still scared of Odin, which at this point had been greatly weakened from his prime. A prime Odin can fight against multiple celestials at once and still repel them
odin is always at his prime and every day/year he lifes he gets more Powerful
yup pretty much sums it up!
Yes that's true
Bruh, Odin said Thor was stronger than himself in Ragnarok and Thanos was shown to be stronger than Thor so I really don’t think he was scared of Odin.
There's a deleted scene from that movie where Thor gets the Odin Force after Odin dies. Thor is not more powerful than Odin, not without the Odin Force at least.
Fragile planet like earth? Thanos and his army get clapped if all superheroes of earth come together including mutants, fantastic four, ghost rider and etc.
But Earth IS one of the nine realms, it's Midgard... So it would have been equally difficult for Odin to reach either place and it would have made more sense for him to send Thor to save the dwarves and stop Thanos and sacrifice Earth so Thanos could never use the stones,
That would require Odin to know Thanos' plan, which he didn't. Odin didn't know Thanos was going to go and force the dwarves to make a Gauntlet.
Odin should have known since he has Heimdall who can see everything in the nine realms@@BlitzinMackGaming
WE NEED AN ODIN MOVIE
The timeline doesn’t line up. Thanos didn’t visit Nidavellir until after Ragnarok because it’s still under the protection of Asgard. If you’re saying Thanos attacked Nidavellir before the events of Thor: The Dark World, where Odin can be seen at nearly full power, then why didn’t Thor know about it? Why didn’t Odin remove Eitri’s shackles?
Whats the movie name
You know that odin sons have a weapon 😮😮
You'd think they could properly train these AI to pronounce names correctly.
Deep 😮
Nah since the bifrost is broken he just needs to invade the dwarf home world and asgard has no way to send a huge army.
You're giving Marvel too much credit because when the first Avengers movie happened they didn't know they were telling the Infinity Saga yet. How do I know this? Well because Joss Whedon is on record saying he only put Thanos in he mid-credits as being the one behind Loki's invasion because he liked Thanos. Marvel wants us to think and indeed they have some people believing they knew what big story they were telling out of the gate but I think they started to figure it out just before or after Thor The Dark World.
totally, the "going to earth using dark energy = tired odin" is just a stupid magic throwaway plot point from a bad movie
@@dfsdude Bad movie? I now know to never trust your judgment.
Dude, in The Dark World, they said that the Dark Elf Malekieth or whatever his name was created the reality stone. We find out later that he did not create the stone, just the casing for it. They changed the story as they went forward with it.
@@scorpiusbalthazar4327 fwiw, avengers good, thor 2 bad. right?
@@dfsdude I liked Thor 2, but it is one of the weaker ones.
This makes Thanos Russia not france 😮
The son has to lose the father to become the father.
That's correct (I'm Thanos)
The only problem in this theory is that Earth or Midgard is also in the nine realms protected by Odin along with Nidalvilir...He wouldnt see Earth as fragile if he knew Odin and Asgard was protecting it.
this is a big thing to ignore. It makes more sense that thanos used loki as a cutout or proxy that would only minorly annoy odin instead of put odin on war footing.
Yup Midgard or earth is one of the realms under Odin content creator made a mistake
which was another reason why capt marvel was odd...that one guy just tried to nuke the whole state of arizona in 1994...where was odin then, huh?🙄@@achikavengergarohills3048
I like how they actually made the space and time stones as separate stones and they just happened to be the two stones that were located on Earth... But the fact that's really funny about the making them two separate Stones is that each stone is essentially the same thing... So in my opinion there's only five stones with one duplicate because space is time and time is space they are both one in the same and you can't have one without the other so making a two separate litteealy makes no sense
Most of this explanation is good, but it doesn't explain why he gave the Mind Stone to Loki.
Wait, I thought Odin was sick in the first Thor movie? Loki didn't go to invade Earth until Avengers which came after 'Thor'
Earth isn’t exactly fragile- it’s just a thing big bad guys say to sound intimidating
Anyone forget odin was the one who hid all the stones in the first place? Ofc thanos was afraid of odin.
I swear, if he mispronounces one more word, I'm going to scream
YES! Bro takes the time to come up with these theories and can't even pronouce Thanos.
Smart
Not even true lol ur saying it took them a couple of years for Thor to be oblivious about how the dwarf giants got invaded and their star is dying?
No, loki made thanos give him the space stone because it's the safest stone for him that can't affect too much of the timeline. How? He's the God of Time today so obviously he has access to timelines.
Earth is also one of the nine realms…..
When in the actual hell did he use the soul stone or better yet when did Thanos give it to him he was obsessed with the space stone he gave his life for it
It's a good theory but the events don't line up...seeing as Odin slipped into the coma in Thor and woke at the end of Thor & before the first Avengers movie.
dark magic didn't make the user weak, heimdall proved it
Niva-da-Leah
If Thanos would have sent member of black order instead of Loki then he would have defeated Avengers and taken the space stone
Nah u all capping
Thanos needed sometime to stand
His back was hurting by sitting for years
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