Thanks for the shoutout, guys!! We appreciate all you do for the sport of pickleball! The handle...think tennis, since we all came from the world of tennis where handles are solid :)
Might be interesting to you guys - Pickleball Poker is doing a trade in program right now. Trade in any old paddle and get a Gen 1 carbon fiber paddle for $35. Great cause, great deal! I ordered mine a few days ago. Not expecting too much from the paddle but seemed like a no brainer for a backup paddle 🤷🏼♂️
I personally am so done with Selkirk. They used to be ahead of the curve and very innovative but now it’s catch up paddles and more of what they’re already doing with a new Selkirk paint job to sucker their loyal fans.
Another great pod. I really appreciate that you take time to discuss how you tune your paddles. I hope the paddle companies build in the ability to add weight to the butt cap area in the future.
Im really looking forward to a review on the spartus olympus. Looks like a really cool paddle and im interested to see if their new Ascension core is any good.
Selkirk is sponsoring too many pros and not putting their funds into R+D any longer, their latest paddles are about 8 months to a year behind their competitors. Between painted on grit that lasts 2-4 weeks to a paddle others have had out for quite sometime and sell for less….
Hey John. Love the podcast. Since you mentioned you love Kevlar. Here in Florida we love Kevlar paddles we have them all and we noticed that in the mornings with the humidity the paddles look and feel that the face of the paddle sweets and loses spin. I don’t know if you can check and test on that.
It’s great to see Body Helix X4 Gold getting some love! I’ve been playing with it a little over a month and everything they said is dead on. Great sweet spot, amazing feel and spin and it absolutely rips!
It is crazy how much electrical tape does affect the swing weight. i see it on my Brifiddi too. A few weeks ago i was shocked as well. Also im a single hand player and I tend to cut .50-.75 of the handle off. At first i did it to reduce static weight before i realized it was probably unnecessary, but now playing with an uncut version of the same paddle I do see the difference in either raising the B point or moving the sweetspot higher in the paddle face..
Hey John! Which edge tape were you using that gave you the +5 SW? I've experimented with using PBEffect edge tape around the top edge, as well as recently trying the Bodhi edge tape around the entire perimeter which to me hasn't felt like too crazy of an increase, but I don't have a briffidi and it might be a combination of using widebody paddles with relatively minimal tungsten and a hesacore.
Great job guys, as always. Really like your review of the Body Helix X-4, very interesting paddle definitely worth a second look when I start looking for a new paddle soon. Love that both of you have different opinions on stuff, best Pickleball Podcast hands down. Keep it up, see you on the next one.
My BIG Question: How fast is too fast for Pickleball? We know it’s a light weight plastic ball, but 99% of players are Amateurs and aren’t going to enjoy the game as much when relatively soft swings produce 50mph returns.
@@trumpisastump9382 perhaps I should revise my statement 😂 , 99% of us are amateur players, and after playing against a gen 3 paddle, how fast is too fast? At 8 feet away from an opponent, a strong smash is unreturnable for most.. if that speed is achieved in hand battles it becomes a different game.
This question probably relates more to a couple episodes ago, but with your updated website with regards to the metrics, what indicates a paddle’s control? Is there a score for that? For example, the Luxx has very high control, but seems to score “poorly” in all categories on the metrics presented
electric tape, while perhaps not as damage resistant, should be a nice alternative to those worried about the 5 point+ swingweight increase of taping their edge guard
Slyce is making an End cap for the Gearbox PPE. Because it's the same handle, I assume it can be used on the Gearbox Pro Ultimate. When you get that, can you show off your new paddle setup with the Gearbox Pro Ultimate
With the Slyce Cap + Hesacore is the balance point lowered even more so that adding the fixed lead tape at that point would tip it too much back to the head if you put it in the spot you did on your other video?
Great discussion on sw, tw, paddle specs, etc. not looking forward for the hush to start showing up in rec play. Too bad body helix grip size os 4 1/4 instead of smaller. I would have considered it.
Hi 👋. Can you please do a review on the newly released Hitman by Dymon ? So far it’s the only paddle that I know of that is ALL Kevlar - meaning surface is kevlar & the core also kevlar. I’ve been playing & enjoying so much their first released Mayhem paddle which is a Core only Kevlar. Please please do check out Dymon’s Hitman 🙏🏼. Great content as always! Best wishes to you & Eddie! 🙌🏼💕
@@johnkewpickleball was in the apparel business doing spf fishing shirts here in Florida. Some research into it as well as talking with the people at Columbia about their line. They conquered on that as well
3S is officially available for pre-sale. Can you break down who would be the market for these and what you can and cannot play in (events) with these? I can't even find a listing of upa-a approved paddles. Would be curious to see what else Joola has "approved". Also, the genesis of the upa-a, already feels a little dirty- It seems they would have done themselves a PR favor by not having Joola as their first and only customer. It looks to me like Joola has bankrolled a new agency under the biggest pickleball mothership. No conflicts here?
For sure, the optics are bad for UPA on this. I'll wait until I hit with them to judge who they're for, but as of right now, they're only UPA approved, so they can be played by pros at PPA and MLP, and by amateurs for rec play, or any tournament that's not associated with USAP (e.g., WPT)
@@johnkewpickleball This whole situation is just baffling... 1. Gen 3 delisted 2. Joola so miffed, they seemingly climb into bed (further?) with the company that is quickly owning all of pickleball. 3. UPA-A is born as a subsidiary of "mega-pickleball", but trust us, everything is altruistic because we incorporated as a "non-profit". 4. First and only listing is "new" Joola despite no public database or infrastructure to support their new venture. But they approve Joola. What happens when no other manufacturer agrees to pay the fees and participate in the USA-A? Pretty tough to be the governing body of paddles with 1 manufacturer...
Thanks guys - great pod as always - finally have my Shapeshifter on the way - John, back on your initial review of the Shapeshifter you modified it with the slyce and 5g total tape - you said you were hoping to experiment by doubling that to 10g total to see if it improved the performance or whether that amount of weight was too much of an increase in swing weight - did you ever try that out? My guess is that the Slyce feel will negate any negative impact of the extra weight and the result would be improved performance - just curious to know if you ever got around to it. THANKS - this game is more fun because of what you guys do! Paul
@@johnkewpickleball yeah but I think Chris said that the Mod played exactly like the Gen 3 too and it’s now approved. So you’re saying you think the 3s is less powerful? (ps I really don’t think power is the issue tho, I think it’s the trampoline effect)
@@bart1476 wow... So you're just a douche right out of the gate huh? I play outside multiple times a week. Can I handle it? Yeah... But does it suck balls...? Hell yeah it does. Should anyone not having to play in this kind of heat be glad that they don't? Also yes! Was there a need for your "If YoU CanT StAnD tHe hEaT yOu sHOulD WoRk On YouR FitNeSS" comment? No
If you're able to gather about 4-5 different paddles with different swing weights, from light to heavy, and play with them during the same session, you'll start to notice where your preferred swing weight is. You can find swing weights on my database
Thanks for the shoutout, guys!! We appreciate all you do for the sport of pickleball! The handle...think tennis, since we all came from the world of tennis where handles are solid :)
Really enjoying my X4! You're on to something there! Keep up the good work...
@@EddieK-PB You sold me on this paddle. I just purchased it. Do you know when the data for the X4 will be in John's published database?
Great work guys. Can you please update the data base for the Body Helix X4 Kevlar. Thanks
Might be interesting to you guys - Pickleball Poker is doing a trade in program right now. Trade in any old paddle and get a Gen 1 carbon fiber paddle for $35. Great cause, great deal! I ordered mine a few days ago. Not expecting too much from the paddle but seemed like a no brainer for a backup paddle 🤷🏼♂️
Definitely will look into this!
@@matthewmuse9477 I got mine yesterday! Gonna test it out tomorrow!
I personally am so done with Selkirk. They used to be ahead of the curve and very innovative but now it’s catch up paddles and more of what they’re already doing with a new Selkirk paint job to sucker their loyal fans.
Selkirk paddles are inferior IMO
I'm preferring pickleball apes line up right now
Your JOHNKEW promo code don’t work for the versix vector paddle
Another great pod. I really appreciate that you take time to discuss how you tune your paddles. I hope the paddle companies build in the ability to add weight to the butt cap area in the future.
Have you already played Gen 3-S and how are they different from Mod TA-15?
Im really looking forward to a review on the spartus olympus. Looks like a really cool paddle and im interested to see if their new Ascension core is any good.
If you are buying because it is cool that is odd.
@@bart1476 I meant that it seems like cool technology, not that it looks cool, although I do also like the look.
Would you add the Body Helix X-4 to your paddle database.
Selkirk is sponsoring too many pros and not putting their funds into R+D any longer, their latest paddles are about 8 months to a year behind their competitors. Between painted on grit that lasts 2-4 weeks to a paddle others have had out for quite sometime and sell for less….
Hey John. Love the podcast. Since you mentioned you love Kevlar. Here in Florida we love Kevlar paddles we have them all and we noticed that in the mornings with the humidity the paddles look and feel that the face of the paddle sweets and loses spin. I don’t know if you can check and test on that.
I Love the Jellybean for $90.
It’s great to see Body Helix X4 Gold getting some love! I’ve been playing with it a little over a month and everything they said is dead on. Great sweet spot, amazing feel and spin and it absolutely rips!
Right on! Did you add any weight to yours?
How is the control? Does it have any plushness or pocketing feel, or is the face really stiff?
It is crazy how much electrical tape does affect the swing weight. i see it on my Brifiddi too. A few weeks ago i was shocked as well. Also im a single hand player and I tend to cut .50-.75 of the handle off. At first i did it to reduce static weight before i realized it was probably unnecessary, but now playing with an uncut version of the same paddle I do see the difference in either raising the B point or moving the sweetspot higher in the paddle face..
Hey John! Which edge tape were you using that gave you the +5 SW? I've experimented with using PBEffect edge tape around the top edge, as well as recently trying the Bodhi edge tape around the entire perimeter which to me hasn't felt like too crazy of an increase, but I don't have a briffidi and it might be a combination of using widebody paddles with relatively minimal tungsten and a hesacore.
Great job guys, as always. Really like your review of the Body Helix X-4, very interesting paddle definitely worth a second look when I start looking for a new paddle soon. Love that both of you have different opinions on stuff, best Pickleball Podcast hands down. Keep it up, see you on the next one.
My BIG Question: How fast is too fast for Pickleball? We know it’s a light weight plastic ball, but 99% of players are Amateurs and aren’t going to enjoy the game as much when relatively soft swings produce 50mph returns.
Was not aware that you were authorized to speak for 99% of pickleball players.
@@trumpisastump9382 perhaps I should revise my statement 😂 , 99% of us are amateur players, and after playing against a gen 3 paddle, how fast is too fast? At 8 feet away from an opponent, a strong smash is unreturnable for most.. if that speed is achieved in hand battles it becomes a different game.
8 feet? GTFO the kitchen 😂
This question probably relates more to a couple episodes ago, but with your updated website with regards to the metrics, what indicates a paddle’s control? Is there a score for that? For example, the Luxx has very high control, but seems to score “poorly” in all categories on the metrics presented
electric tape, while perhaps not as damage resistant, should be a nice alternative to those worried about the 5 point+ swingweight increase of taping their edge guard
Slyce is making an End cap for the Gearbox PPE. Because it's the same handle, I assume it can be used on the Gearbox Pro Ultimate. When you get that, can you show off your new paddle setup with the Gearbox Pro Ultimate
I'd love to see a review on the new neonic flare. Standard shape with very low SW and a 5.75" usable handle.
So just to be clear, is the Mod Ta-15 100% legal in rec play, tournaments, everything?
Correct, legal across the board
Is there any way a player could describe their game, their strengths and weaknesses and you make recommendations on what to demo?
Got promo email from Joola to preorder the 3S today - same player shapes as Gen 3 in both 14 and 16mm
With the Slyce Cap + Hesacore is the balance point lowered even more so that adding the fixed lead tape at that point would tip it too much back to the head if you put it in the spot you did on your other video?
Great discussion on sw, tw, paddle specs, etc. not looking forward for the hush to start showing up in rec play. Too bad body helix grip size os 4 1/4 instead of smaller. I would have considered it.
Hope you review the new Gruvn Cruz paddles and the new Halo elongated paddle.
Which weight vector did you guys test?
Anyone know what brand of cap Eddie is wearing?
Any word on when the next CRBN paddle is coming out?
Hi 👋. Can you please do a review on the newly released Hitman by Dymon ? So far it’s the only paddle that I know of that is ALL Kevlar - meaning surface is kevlar & the core also kevlar. I’ve been playing & enjoying so much their first released Mayhem paddle which is a Core only Kevlar. Please please do check out Dymon’s Hitman 🙏🏼.
Great content as always! Best wishes to you & Eddie! 🙌🏼💕
3s seems like it would be a much better paddle to release to the public
FYI about spf clothing. Do not use fabric softener. Also, most spf clothing are good for about 60 washes before the spf breaks down
Interesting - I didn't know this. Are you in the industry, or you just researched it?
@@johnkewpickleball was in the apparel business doing spf fishing shirts here in Florida. Some research into it as well as talking with the people at Columbia about their line. They conquered on that as well
@@robertharless3304And we should only hang dry upf50 clothing right?
What is weight of paddle?
John, do you know the length/width of the Versix Vector?? I don’t see it listed on their website. Very interested!
If it's not listed forget it.
It's elongated - 16.5 x 17.5 inches
3S is officially available for pre-sale. Can you break down who would be the market for these and what you can and cannot play in (events) with these? I can't even find a listing of upa-a approved paddles. Would be curious to see what else Joola has "approved". Also, the genesis of the upa-a, already feels a little dirty- It seems they would have done themselves a PR favor by not having Joola as their first and only customer. It looks to me like Joola has bankrolled a new agency under the biggest pickleball mothership. No conflicts here?
For sure, the optics are bad for UPA on this. I'll wait until I hit with them to judge who they're for, but as of right now, they're only UPA approved, so they can be played by pros at PPA and MLP, and by amateurs for rec play, or any tournament that's not associated with USAP (e.g., WPT)
@@johnkewpickleball This whole situation is just baffling...
1. Gen 3 delisted
2. Joola so miffed, they seemingly climb into bed (further?) with the company that is quickly owning all of pickleball.
3. UPA-A is born as a subsidiary of "mega-pickleball", but trust us, everything is altruistic because we incorporated as a "non-profit".
4. First and only listing is "new" Joola despite no public database or infrastructure to support their new venture. But they approve Joola.
What happens when no other manufacturer agrees to pay the fees and participate in the USA-A? Pretty tough to be the governing body of paddles with 1 manufacturer...
They are still advertising the 3s as having the propulsion core.
So power should still be really good.
The rules have changed
enhance pickleball has 3g tungsten precut strips
Sure enough - thanks for the heads up
Too bad body helix grip size os 4 1/4 instead of smaller. I would have considered it.
What’s the code for the 20% off Centerline clothes?
JOHNKEW
But there’s enough Monarch reviews on YT and zero HP PIKKL review 😭
They'll both get a review
@@johnkewpickleball🎉🙏🏽 thank you
Please look at the Neonic Flare 16 mm paddle
I just received it
I like short hanles
Thanks guys - great pod as always - finally have my Shapeshifter on the way - John, back on your initial review of the Shapeshifter you modified it with the slyce and 5g total tape - you said you were hoping to experiment by doubling that to 10g total to see if it improved the performance or whether that amount of weight was too much of an increase in swing weight - did you ever try that out? My guess is that the Slyce feel will negate any negative impact of the extra weight and the result would be improved performance - just curious to know if you ever got around to it. THANKS - this game is more fun because of what you guys do! Paul
Someone cut a Mod TA in half and showed it’s the same as the Gen 3 inside.
That was me. And Chris Olson. But don't confuse the MOD TA-15 with the 3S. Different paddles, presumably, but so far, nobody knows what's in the 3S
@@johnkewpickleball yeah but I think Chris said that the Mod played exactly like the Gen 3 too and it’s now approved. So you’re saying you think the 3s is less powerful? (ps I really don’t think power is the issue tho, I think it’s the trampoline effect)
Thank you for discussing the Body Helix X-4. Just used your code to purchase. I hope it has the control I'm looking for. Great deal so worth a try!!
‘Designed and Quality Controlled in the USA’ 😂
👍
Dude just be glad you arent playing outside in AZ
I play outside in Arizona all the time. If you can't stand the heat you might want to work on your fitness.
@@bart1476 wow... So you're just a douche right out of the gate huh? I play outside multiple times a week. Can I handle it? Yeah... But does it suck balls...? Hell yeah it does. Should anyone not having to play in this kind of heat be glad that they don't? Also yes! Was there a need for your "If YoU CanT StAnD tHe hEaT yOu sHOulD WoRk On YouR FitNeSS" comment? No
How can I know what the right swing weight is for me?
If you're able to gather about 4-5 different paddles with different swing weights, from light to heavy, and play with them during the same session, you'll start to notice where your preferred swing weight is. You can find swing weights on my database
CarbonPickle Pro please. I think it’s the same exact thing as the Selkirk Luxx S2
Wondered that as well.
Dryer on low
yea Melins are great it is both the ugliest and the most expensive hat I have ever purchased so i wear it a lot
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First view! The original first view has been disqualified for bragging about dumb stuff.
First view
oh that's a real job. lol jk