you are the only one that showed us eclipse belt noobs how to connect the belt/buckle out of the box. Not even AXL had a instructional video for this, so THANK YOU
Indeed sir, started watching him 2 days ago. Nobody is remotely in his professional patient explanationion. The burgees was a muke drop. My kind of DUDE!!!!!!! LOVE THIS BELT FOR MY APPRICATIONS. HAPPY HUNTING LADIES AND GENTS
Got this belt and have been (literally) running with it for three weeks (2.8 miles on MWF) loaded with ESSTAC Kywi, LBBC ifak, Sara Finland holster. Works well.
From a weight to strength standpoint, it's a bit baffling in the difference. It's literally 2 to 3x as strong and half the weight. I suppose I gotta look at the ferro eventually...
@@ThinLineDefenseCo question will be, is it worth the additional cost? For the professional user I say definitely, but the average American doesn't even do fitness/exercises 2x a week or train at the range once a month...I've used my two Ronin belts regularly for 5+yrs, if they ever break I'll probably replace with a Tegris type belt
Yea I agree there. If you already have one, there isn't a huge advantage. But the new tegris stuff is actually cheaper too. I could do the eclipse setup for half the cost of the Ronin.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo surprisingly the Axl belt is very affordable, the other Tegris belts are 2-2.5x the cost. I got my Ronins used for $100-120 ea when nobody knew who he was lol Now prices of anything Ronin are double and tripled!
Bison and the GBRS belt are literally the same, in fact I would go as far to say GBRS pretty much took the bison belt and added their own take on it. The only difference is they have a legitimate weight bearing on it.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo my issue has been finding the right canted mag pouches that work for me. I have awesome G codes but there is WAY too much retention for mag pistols for my training. BUT the canted Esstac have been great! Thanks for finding those for me!
@@ThinLineDefenseCo 40ish degrees. I tried 2 on my Blue Alpha belt and they were great sooooo will try them on the AXL. If not I will mount some kydex pouches with the AXL APSIS mounts...
You need to Loc-Tite all those nuts and bolts. I recommend Loc-Tite 222 “Purple” due to the size of the threads. Last thing you want is a belt that has a critical failure to the bolts holding the buckle on.
A great way to attach gloves is using a small Nite Ize s-biner. On some belts, you can even thread it through the size tag. Remember, it is only supporting the weight of gloves - not for repelling.
Been checking a few times a week. They’re all out of everything. I’m in the market for a dedicated duty/battle belt and relied on this awesome review to help decide on one. Man I don’t want to have to settle for a safe life defense belt
I heard the back orders are only like two weeks out. I think you can only back order black though? I saw you could with g hooks and I found the exact same raptor Buckles on Amazon for 20 bucks. Hope that helps! -Walsh
@@corporateragnar5940 mehh they're pretty similar. I'm the same on both. The raptor I'd a bit lower profile and smaller so I do prefer it on this belt.
Badass, appreciate it man. If you know gear you want to see just let me know. I have a pile to do but I want to review what you all want to see! Thanks again. -Walsh
Saw they had them in stock a week ago.. ordered one simply because of you raving about it. If its as good as it seems, for the price, its a no brainer.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo absolutely love the belt… crazy cumfy and being able to change the buckle and adjust it more quickly is amazing. Only sad part for me is the gcode scorpions dont fit 😭. Molle clips dont work since jts rigid and the belt clips are too small for the belt height. Deff going to try to rig something up to fit the gcodes.
We actually saw those when the team was together recently and went to the 5.11 outlet. Does it actually work though? It seems with the locking tab going up.... taking anything off would be super annoying. We thought of these for our ear protection too but ultimately decided it probably wouldn't work well Interested to hear your thoughts -Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo I've never had an issue with it opening upward if you remember to pull whatever you have upward before you unhook. You'd be right in that it's not as ideal if you need to quickly detach something. The M3 version has a downward opening cell as well as the upward, but that cell is quite small if youre looking to hook multiple/bigger things to.
Saw the k19 on your channel and was fascinated so I did my own research and watched the company vid on it def didn’t regret the price it’s to die for .🤞🏾
Finally got my belt!!!!! Took forever but ACL made good by giving me a free cobra buckle. Thanks for this great review! I bought it because of this awesome channel. Again, best hear and how to videos for guns and gear
Thanks to this channel, I will be buying a belt that truly suits my needs. Thank you for being so in depth and detailed with your reviews. I will use the link provided. Thanks again!
Pfft... I've seen so many belts. Why WOULDN'T you buy this one. Well...if you get into helicopters it won't work well but that's about it. From the civilian side... perfect.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo thanks for your advice , i have no chance to get into heli so far and I watch all of your review for belts, that's why I think I probably buy this one.
Heads up Walsh, the True North Concepts MHA was installed wrong. The bars for the back of the plate are supposed to weave through the webbing of the belt. Gives maximum velcro attachment on the inside and keeps the MHA from moving at all.
the middle Axl slot isn't actually open, it's woven closed. Jason attaches his this way but I like the plates on the rear with the grommets holding it all down. On the Ronin, it really stretches that material to the MAX. good point for other folks though... just can't do that on the Axl. -Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo just thread it through the first molle web and then under the exposed tegris web lol. I did it that way with the GBRS belt (until recent events, screw them) and probably gonna do it that way with this one
Great vid!! On a slightly different but related topic, have you ever checked out the Boxer Outdoors Apogee belt?? It’s a ratchet belt but seriously unlike any other!! I’ve had mine for a few years now and it’s held up like no other product I have ever owned. And I really mean that! You should grab one and do some testing with it!! Probably the coolest buckle ever and the belt itself is made out of biothane and literally has not remotely curled at the 6 o’clock spot whatsoever! I know, I sound like I’m trying to sell the damn things but I have to say, it’s the coolest most functional crossover tactical sturdy including definitely conceal carry sturdy belt I’ve ever used ever!! Trust me! Just get one and you’ll see what I mean! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
It seems like you're trading off a lot just to get a ratcheting belt though. I would definitely want to try it but I would be worried about the molle gear all sliding around.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Totally true regarding the Molly. We can’t have a bunch of slidin around like that! I was thinking more tec-lok-ish possibly. Btw- Are you planning on spending like what, a $1,000.00 bucks? on the new Ronin Tactics Assaulter Light carrier and chest rig to review?? Uhh, asking for a friend..! 😬 👍🏼
I just found your channel tonight and subscribed. Great content. You totally changed what I was going to buy. I was comparing the Volund Gearworks to the GBRS belt and after seeing this I’m going to give it a try instead. Cheaper and lighter are two things that I can get behind. I live in Mi. and want to be able to wear this over winter gear when necessary, so, I have a question that I hope you can answer. Do you think the 38-40 belt would cinch down to a 36? Thank you for your time.
Ohhh that I'm not sure. I'd ask Axl directly. And glad I could help. I have the gbrs and some others but the Axl is still my top. Let them know Walsh sent ya! -Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Thank you for the reply. How about an easier question, which inner belt would you run with the AXL outer? Your recommendation might save me a week of searching. Thank you again, Sir.
@@1AbominAble1 The whole team at TLD uses the WPS low profile inner EDC belt. We rarely agree on anything so it says something that we all use the same exact inner belt. Hope that helps! -Walsh
I have a 30” waist so real estate is in short supply for me. How much “unusable” space is there up front in the buckle area? Currently I’m running a SOE 2” duty belt. I’m not unhappy with it, but looking to possibly upgrade to something slimmer and lighter. Also the SOE lacks molle.
it takes up about 4 MOLLE sections. the tabs on either side actually thread throu the MOLLE... so there is one on each side burnt up and the two buckles are about one more. Hope that helps! I can measure for you also if you'd like. let me know! -Walsh
It seems that anything that has two horizontal Tek Lok compatible (0.75" spacing) holes will work with ELS and therefore the Aspis mounts, apparently including GCode RTI stuff. I intend to try it with GCode GSM pistol mag carriers that I've had kicking around unused for a while.
Great video The biggest problem I have with this Eclipse is the hook they used on it. It is absolute dog shit. Its about as strong as one wrap, which is basically only good enough to use for cable or loose strap tying.... Its a major let down on that end, but its a great belt overall.
Hmm the hook on mine is definitely comparable to all the other belts I have. I didn't see an issue there. ... I also removed all my malice clips and use one wrap haha so maybe I have brain damage. The bfg chlk belt had some horrible hook... I'll tell you that. -Walsh
umm... one big gripe of yours Walsh was you HATING the "soft and flimsy" inner belt of the GBRS V2. But watching some of your other videos I came across this and now you don't like the stiff inner belts and prefer the softer more malleable inner belts similar to the GBRS? Just really doing my research before I buy a belt. The GBRS was my favorite but now I am trying to decide between the Ronin and AXL. I just hate the "new generation" of the AXL and alike because you don't get all the velcro that you do on the Ronin.... also no D-Ring on these "new generation" belts... And I am not sure where you saw bad use on WTF Strips, but I have used those for years and never once had my pouches be "sad or floppy". Not sure where you saw that happen at...
They're both great. I love them both. If I was getting one right now though.... The Axl. It's just badass and stupid light. Let me know what you pick! -Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo That’s great to hear because I ordered it exactly 3 minutes ago. Possibly as you were typing this haha. Instant validation. Thanks ! Stoked
Been lookin for a new battle belt and seen quite a few of your videos and many others, and this is definitely persuading me to get it. One thing is though, when I looked it up they were sold out of both buckles and only had the clip.
I’m torn on belts man! Im really leaning to this one, however I was considering Ronin and BFG. This will be the first battle belt I buy. If you could have only 1 belt, which one would you take? Im a range shooter and enjoy a few pistol training classes a year. Additionally, if I were to go with the Axl, what inner belt is your favorite for this set up? In your comments you mention how you really like comfort of the syzygy inner but you then mentioned it’s a con and that you can match it with any inner belt. Anyway…. Looking forward to your reply! Thanks a ton, all your videos have been extremely helpful!
The Axl is definitely my number 1. I definitely recommend it wayyy over the CHLK and it's a close tie to the Ronin. I use the Axl 100% of the time now. For inner belts, the blue alpha gear low-profile inner belt just can't be beat. It's what the whole team uses. duty... screwing around... doesn't matter.... it's the one. Hope that helps! Axl and blue alpha gear is my current setup I use. The ronin is cool but the Axl is next level. -Walsh
@@59thApacheRangers I did get mine, sadly the size was a bit small (it fit-just wanted a bit more adjustment) they took it back via RMA no questions asked. Waiting on the new one to shown up.
A ubl mid ride would be fine... It'll be more uncomfortable and you'll need some zip ties or something to get it sized. Same way you'd do it on a ronin or any other belt though
@@ThinLineDefenseCo I think the UBL belt slot is about 2” tall with the belt being 1.9” do you think it will wiggle a lot? But true north does makes life easier for sure
@@raymondkuk5409 even the Ronin senshi has a small gap. You'd be fine but you'll want some small zip ties to hold it in place. Being loose will give you a really annoying inconsistent draw
I haven't used that belt but the bison uses the standard design of a MOLLE belt and adds Tegris on top. it's like the gap between the old and the new generation... like 1.5. The axl is fantastic but the wait and ship times can be absolutely stupid. Expect to wait 4 months.... Take a look at attack pak. Their belt is the new one that I think is going to take my top spot in belts! -Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Hah! I'm dumb. I had this video and another on the same belt open at the same time. The other video showed the belt with a traditional kydex belt loop holster mount attached.
Although this video is two years old. I have owned the HRT belt the Arc belt, that did not work for me at all, the buckle mounting and attaching it to your belt it was well pretty annoying. The video did help a lot but as i am trying to go for that sleek clean look that part of the video, yeah i was completely lost and just how you need an extra 2-4 braincells to get that set up, that was a no. I have used the belt and what i have noticed is that one the back of the belt has a huge openeing, it was annoying at times cause you feel like the belt is sagging down, eventhough its secured with the inner belt. After this annoyance i was dealing with i simply stoped using it. Since that it was not for me but, will say the belt was comfortable when wearing it, just hate that the belt saggs down once you have eveything loaded up. I also forget to mention that there are gaps in the back of the belt too. The belt I'm currently rocking is the S&S precision belt, before anyone asks no i wasn't under the influnce of any paid reviewer or YT guy to tell me to go and buy it, (nothing against you Walsh cause you sir have me on the fence of getting the javlin concept carrier). I bought the belt simply i know its quality gear and contracted for the Military, more so tier 1 special operations unit. Have to say it is a good belt and the price i have paid is similar to the axl belt, their customer service on the other hand it was nice for a contracted gear company. Oh and the belt came put to be way cheaper than the HRT arc belt. I have nothing against HRT this is just my problem with their belt system. The axl belt seems like what i have been looking for i might pick one up with the g hooks. I use the belts for airsoft and not real world use im not sure how the axl pistol pouches will fit. The pistol that im currebtly rocking is the archon type b and the magazines seems to be shorter and slimer than a glock magazine. Not sure how well those mag well fit. If thats my main concern of the pistol mag pouches i might just go with g code or the itw ones About the HRT belt, i understand they make extra molle slots so you can add more stuff on the belt and even have a better lock up, i bought this belt way before that. I did buy this belt and watched honest reviews not some retarded instagram influncer to tell me to buy it. Heres a few channels ive watched so far Tactical considerations, im subbed to him, cool dude and love his honesty, he's prior 75th ranger regiment, and now is a local LEO officer in Arizona Huntfish and shoot, small channel, love how he input on the belt and compares it to what he usually wears on duty, yes hes LEO. Last channel i watched was focusedtripp Almost forgot another channel was everyday citizens tactical, so 4 channels
Sure can! They do well. I like the gcode a little better though as it can flex a bit and fit a wider variety without any concerns. Tyr Tactical also work as well as gcode but those a bit pricey
I have a 34 inch waist so I got the medium. It definitely has a lot of room. If I was swaying on which, I'd go too small as too large would give you an insane amount of overlap and it's a pain with the inner and outer belt. Hope that helps! -Walsh
It could connect but you may have to play with the different tabs to get the correct ones. I know they have that fixed length and even on my ronin I gotta kinda lock them in place with some ranger bands. If you try it out, let me know! -Walsh
@@andrewertl8170 For Gcode style, I'ld look at Tyr happy mag pouches. They're the only true hybrid of esstac and gcode. Otherwise Esstac is fantastic. I also showed the Axl node pouch which works extremely well on the eclipse too. Check that video out. -Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo so just 3/4" velcro or is it the velcro ties? I just ordered the WPS inner belt and the Eclipse with your link based off your great review. Total newb here so your help is much appreciated. Do you have a list of what you have found to work on this belt that you use? My intended use is range, training, bump in the night do it all civilian belt. Thanks and Excellent content!
Great reviews man. Belts are way to expensive just to jump into blindly. Have you tried being seated in a vehicle for long periods? I know it was fine for burpees but 10 hours in a patrol car might be different.
I can certainly try it but I think would be more a function of what all I had on it. If i put a bit ol back pouch on and a UBL mid ride, it will definitely hurt my back and dig into my hip. I gotta do some editing today, I'll keep the belt on all day and let you know lol And noted on all the belts. I could do one big one on all these damn belts lol
@@ThinLineDefenseCo thanks man. That would be great. Glad i found this channel. It's been a big help. Sharing your stuff with all my cop friends who need gear. What's your day job? If you don't mind
ehh I think both of those are just old school belts with tegris slapped on em. Like version 1.5. An upgrade...but barely. I'll do a GBRS belt video soon but the Bison is the definition of instagram gear. Hard pass. -Walsh
@@zacharyfett2491 I had just been using gear earlier that day and I was like "why is all this stuff falling off?? I guess the wtf strips had lost some tension over time and were all saggy. I don't know why I was just commited to using them. No more. Poop on those strips.
I just did a gbrs loadout video where I did a ton of belt options. All of those would work great on the Axl eclipse too. I highly recommend the node pouch video too. Take care! -Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo thanks for the info. What attachment did you use for the gcode softshells? I'll take a look at that video. Thanks a lot. I'll be sure to use your links!
@@JGoodman333 I think those are the R1 clips but it all depends on how you hook it all up or want it hooked up. The R1 uses MOLLE but there are also the belt ones. I also used ranger bands to add some extra security so they don't move up and down in the MOLLE slot. So that may be a vote for the belt tabs ... Are those r3s?? Not sure -Walsh
The main thing is to be careful how you store it as the Tegris will sort of get stuck in the position it's stored in. Joe kept it buckled on the floor and it got an awkward bow in it. He left it flat on the table and the kink worked out. He uses it when he goes out coyote hunting. - Jason
Ohhhh no no no...the tegris is absolutely awesome. I will tell you I love them both though but the axl is a generational jump. They're both fantastic choices. -Walsh
I'm literally I'm my back yard. I'm definitely not some level 100 wizard hah if you're looking for battle use, you're in the wrong place. Lol too funny.
@@joshw3585 regulations prevent me from answering that question. We come from a basic angle of the every day person that want wants to own gear or learn to use products. We're not try hards. If you want combat experience tips, this isn't the place.
Truth! I didn't dig this one because I wasn't sure if it was me or just my combination that took so long. I was also hoping they fixed the 2 month wait...but agreed.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo but how can I style on everyone at the big state training event in two weeks if it takes more than that? 😭 Seriously where's that info at? On the website it just says backorder.
you are the only one that showed us eclipse belt noobs how to connect the belt/buckle out of the box. Not even AXL had a instructional video for this, so THANK YOU
Indeed sir, started watching him 2 days ago. Nobody is remotely in his professional patient explanationion. The burgees was a muke drop. My kind of DUDE!!!!!!! LOVE THIS BELT FOR MY APPRICATIONS.
HAPPY HUNTING LADIES AND GENTS
Got this belt and have been (literally) running with it for three weeks (2.8 miles on MWF) loaded with ESSTAC Kywi, LBBC ifak, Sara Finland holster. Works well.
Dad!! Thanks for watching. Dinner is at 6. Bring your belt, we'll go larp in the yard!
-Walsh
Sara Finland holsters are dope AF. So are the belts..Wife is pissed.lol btw: connectors look like mlok for a belt.
@@bluntsmoke1872 I'm not familiar with those holsters. Google doesn't show any results either
@@ThinLineDefenseCo 😂 😂 Dude it was a joke… Safariland.
@@bluntsmoke1872 ooofff..you dad joked me lol
How is this channel not bigger all these reviews are great
haha I appreciate it! Thanks for watching. Maybe other people don't like an old man testing gear in his yard lol
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo give it time I’m sure you’ll get a good following!
Axl Eclipse, Ferro concepts bison and now the new GBRS belt made by LBT, all using Tegris...looks like the future of battle belts!
From a weight to strength standpoint, it's a bit baffling in the difference. It's literally 2 to 3x as strong and half the weight.
I suppose I gotta look at the ferro eventually...
@@ThinLineDefenseCo question will be, is it worth the additional cost? For the professional user I say definitely, but the average American doesn't even do fitness/exercises 2x a week or train at the range once a month...I've used my two Ronin belts regularly for 5+yrs, if they ever break I'll probably replace with a Tegris type belt
Yea I agree there. If you already have one, there isn't a huge advantage. But the new tegris stuff is actually cheaper too. I could do the eclipse setup for half the cost of the Ronin.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo surprisingly the Axl belt is very affordable, the other Tegris belts are 2-2.5x the cost. I got my Ronins used for $100-120 ea when nobody knew who he was lol Now prices of anything Ronin are double and tripled!
Bison and the GBRS belt are literally the same, in fact I would go as far to say GBRS pretty much took the bison belt and added their own take on it. The only difference is they have a legitimate weight bearing on it.
The AXL is now my fav! I have 2 of them and though hard to get - absolutely worth the time and effort trying to get one!
Wow, 2? That's awesome. So many folks just battling for one. It's certainly the winner of all the belts I've done lately.
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo my issue has been finding the right canted mag pouches that work for me. I have awesome G codes but there is WAY too much retention for mag pistols for my training. BUT the canted Esstac have been great! Thanks for finding those for me!
@@yipeeiaye haha I was about to say... I love the canted Esstacs. you're already on it.
Did you do the 45 or 70ish degree ones?
@@ThinLineDefenseCo 40ish degrees. I tried 2 on my Blue Alpha belt and they were great sooooo will try them on the AXL. If not I will mount some kydex pouches with the AXL APSIS mounts...
@@yipeeiaye woukd you recommend the BAG belt or this one?
Best review on this belt. Showing all attachments is helpful
You need to Loc-Tite all those nuts and bolts. I recommend Loc-Tite 222 “Purple” due to the size of the threads. Last thing you want is a belt that has a critical failure to the bolts holding the buckle on.
blue loc-tite is included with the product. I swap it between belts too much though lol
A great way to attach gloves is using a small Nite Ize s-biner. On some belts, you can even thread it through the size tag. Remember, it is only supporting the weight of gloves - not for repelling.
ooooOoooOoo good call. Think they'd hold my ear pro too?
@@ThinLineDefenseCo As long as there is a small loop on the ear pro to run through the s-biner, I don't see why not.
@@iamnothere454 yessir. We actually had grim hunter make us some covers just like that.
Appreciate the tip! I'll go grab one.
-Walsh
Been checking a few times a week. They’re all out of everything. I’m in the market for a dedicated duty/battle belt and relied on this awesome review to help decide on one. Man I don’t want to have to settle for a safe life defense belt
I heard the back orders are only like two weeks out. I think you can only back order black though? I saw you could with g hooks and I found the exact same raptor Buckles on Amazon for 20 bucks.
Hope that helps!
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo you’re amazing. Wow. Gonna go ahead and do
Just that
@@corporateragnar5940 badass! Let me know if you get one and how you like it.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo just ordered via the link you provided. Thanks for the idea about getting the buckle on Amazon. You prefer raptor over the cobra?
@@corporateragnar5940 mehh they're pretty similar. I'm the same on both. The raptor I'd a bit lower profile and smaller so I do prefer it on this belt.
This is a gem of a channel ...subbed...keep it up
Badass, appreciate it man. If you know gear you want to see just let me know. I have a pile to do but I want to review what you all want to see!
Thanks again.
-Walsh
Saw they had them in stock a week ago.. ordered one simply because of you raving about it. If its as good as it seems, for the price, its a no brainer.
It is... I have so many belts. The Axl is stupid good.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo absolutely love the belt… crazy cumfy and being able to change the buckle and adjust it more quickly is amazing. Only sad part for me is the gcode scorpions dont fit 😭. Molle clips dont work since jts rigid and the belt clips are too small for the belt height. Deff going to try to rig something up to fit the gcodes.
@@bartholomewst.juniorstein8814 how long did it take for your to get it in after ordering?
5.11 makes a great carabiner for molle slots. Its called the "Hardpoint" and they have different sizes. Great for gloves and other dangly things.
We actually saw those when the team was together recently and went to the 5.11 outlet.
Does it actually work though? It seems with the locking tab going up.... taking anything off would be super annoying.
We thought of these for our ear protection too but ultimately decided it probably wouldn't work well
Interested to hear your thoughts
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo I've never had an issue with it opening upward if you remember to pull whatever you have upward before you unhook. You'd be right in that it's not as ideal if you need to quickly detach something. The M3 version has a downward opening cell as well as the upward, but that cell is quite small if youre looking to hook multiple/bigger things to.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Ergodyne glove holders, made for the trades but they might work.
Saw the k19 on your channel and was fascinated so I did my own research and watched the company vid on it def didn’t regret the price it’s to die for .🤞🏾
Awesome! Glad you like it
Finally got my belt!!!!! Took forever but ACL made good by giving me a free cobra buckle. Thanks for this great review! I bought it because of this awesome channel. Again, best hear and how to videos for guns and gear
Hell yea!!! Now you gotta tell me if you like it
You can add a piece of one wrap on your blue alpha inner belt if you want the 2 point attachment point
Thanks to this channel, I will be buying a belt that truly suits my needs. Thank you for being so in depth and detailed with your reviews. I will use the link provided. Thanks again!
Badass, glad I could help! The axl is definitely a favorite.
Late to the video here, but Blue Alpha makes a nice lanyard that should work as an alternative to the HSP Anything Hook.
great review, i think your review convince me to buy this for my next range belt.
Pfft... I've seen so many belts. Why WOULDN'T you buy this one. Well...if you get into helicopters it won't work well but that's about it.
From the civilian side... perfect.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo thanks for your advice , i have no chance to get into heli so far and I watch all of your review for belts, that's why I think I probably buy this one.
Great review! Have one on backorder - can't wait.
Badass. You'll love it. I had to wait quite a while on mine too
Very nice! I can see why this is your favorite now!!
Haha it's a badass belt. And cheaper than the other industry leaders too!
LOVE THAT SHARK WALLET!!!
Hang an HK-style sling hook on that Velcro one-wrap bit that ties-down the adjustment slack.
oOoOO! You are smart. I'll do that!
Appreciate it
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo It's less that I'm smart, more that I spend more time than I should gear-gazing.
Maxpedition makes a great glove attachment
ohh I'll have to look. A previous commenter gave me a good option to try out too. appreciate it!
-Walsh
FYI Travis Haily is about to drop a new Hailey Strategic battle belt. He just dropped a med pouch and pistol and rifle mag pouches this past week.
oOoOO!! nice. I may need to check it out. I still get a ton of requests for the GBRS belt too
Great belt setup I like the True North holster adapter
Same! I swapped to the 9toes adapter for the leg strap. It's fantastic
Fantastic review. Thank you.
Heads up Walsh, the True North Concepts MHA was installed wrong. The bars for the back of the plate are supposed to weave through the webbing of the belt. Gives maximum velcro attachment on the inside and keeps the MHA from moving at all.
the middle Axl slot isn't actually open, it's woven closed. Jason attaches his this way but I like the plates on the rear with the grommets holding it all down. On the Ronin, it really stretches that material to the MAX.
good point for other folks though... just can't do that on the Axl.
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo just thread it through the first molle web and then under the exposed tegris web lol. I did it that way with the GBRS belt (until recent events, screw them) and probably gonna do it that way with this one
@@HighMarshalSigismund you certainly could! It may warp the tegris over time though. I just don't thread it *shrug* it doesn't move at all.
Great view as always Walsh! If they make one in MCB I'm going to order one. I can't believe the price also, high quality and high value!
We ....may....have someone joining the live chat. I count on you to tell em ;)
@@ThinLineDefenseCo TLD for the win, see you Thursday!
@@mikeheadless I'm still working it but I'm hopeful!
Want one now
Hah I didn't think I would love this belt... but it's ridiculous
Great product, everything on your channel, I want, keep up the great content
Thanks for watching and for the kind words!
Just saw the price of this, that is insane, I was expecting it to be around the $200 mark!
Great vid!!
On a slightly different but related topic, have you ever checked out the Boxer Outdoors Apogee belt??
It’s a ratchet belt but seriously unlike any other!! I’ve had mine for a few years now and it’s held up like no other product I have ever owned. And I really mean that!
You should grab one and do some testing with it!! Probably the coolest buckle ever and the belt itself is made out of biothane and literally has not remotely curled at the 6 o’clock spot whatsoever!
I know, I sound like I’m trying to sell the damn things but I have to say, it’s the coolest most functional crossover tactical sturdy including definitely conceal carry sturdy belt I’ve ever used ever!! Trust me! Just get one and you’ll see what I mean!
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
It seems like you're trading off a lot just to get a ratcheting belt though. I would definitely want to try it but I would be worried about the molle gear all sliding around.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Totally true regarding the Molly. We can’t have a bunch of slidin around like that! I was thinking more tec-lok-ish possibly.
Btw- Are you planning on spending like what, a $1,000.00 bucks? on the new Ronin Tactics Assaulter Light carrier and chest rig to review??
Uhh, asking for a friend..! 😬 👍🏼
@@MylesDavid haha I've looked at it and thought about it... It seems excessively expensive lol
I just found your channel tonight and subscribed. Great content.
You totally changed what I was going to buy. I was comparing the Volund Gearworks to the GBRS belt and after seeing this I’m going to give it a try instead. Cheaper and lighter are two things that I can get behind.
I live in Mi. and want to be able to wear this over winter gear when necessary, so, I have a question that I hope you can answer. Do you think the 38-40 belt would cinch down to a 36?
Thank you for your time.
Ohhh that I'm not sure. I'd ask Axl directly.
And glad I could help. I have the gbrs and some others but the Axl is still my top.
Let them know Walsh sent ya!
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Thank you for the reply. How about an easier question, which inner belt would you run with the AXL outer? Your recommendation might save me a week of searching.
Thank you again, Sir.
@@1AbominAble1 The whole team at TLD uses the WPS low profile inner EDC belt. We rarely agree on anything so it says something that we all use the same exact inner belt.
Hope that helps!
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo
Thank you very much! Have a great weekend.
Possible to thread a safariland dropflex system on there without to much headache?
I have a 30” waist so real estate is in short supply for me. How much “unusable” space is there up front in the buckle area? Currently I’m running a SOE 2” duty belt. I’m not unhappy with it, but looking to possibly upgrade to something slimmer and lighter. Also the SOE lacks molle.
it takes up about 4 MOLLE sections. the tabs on either side actually thread throu the MOLLE... so there is one on each side burnt up and the two buckles are about one more.
Hope that helps! I can measure for you also if you'd like.
let me know!
-Walsh
I like that belt it’s got a sci fi vibe but still modern looking
It seems that anything that has two horizontal Tek Lok compatible (0.75" spacing) holes will work with ELS and therefore the Aspis mounts, apparently including GCode RTI stuff. I intend to try it with GCode GSM pistol mag carriers that I've had kicking around unused for a while.
oOoOO!! I have a few of those. I'll definitely try those.
-Walsh
Earned my sub!
Also great review as always!
Thanks man. I hope you get your belt soon!
Great video
The biggest problem I have with this Eclipse is the hook they used on it. It is absolute dog shit. Its about as strong as one wrap, which is basically only good enough to use for cable or loose strap tying.... Its a major let down on that end, but its a great belt overall.
Hmm the hook on mine is definitely comparable to all the other belts I have. I didn't see an issue there.
... I also removed all my malice clips and use one wrap haha so maybe I have brain damage.
The bfg chlk belt had some horrible hook... I'll tell you that.
-Walsh
I was thinking of getting this but I don’t know if button snap Molly ( the thing that most USGI pouches use) works Does anyone have any input?
umm... one big gripe of yours Walsh was you HATING the "soft and flimsy" inner belt of the GBRS V2. But watching some of your other videos I came across this and now you don't like the stiff inner belts and prefer the softer more malleable inner belts similar to the GBRS?
Just really doing my research before I buy a belt. The GBRS was my favorite but now I am trying to decide between the Ronin and AXL. I just hate the "new generation" of the AXL and alike because you don't get all the velcro that you do on the Ronin.... also no D-Ring on these "new generation" belts...
And I am not sure where you saw bad use on WTF Strips, but I have used those for years and never once had my pouches be "sad or floppy". Not sure where you saw that happen at...
How well would this work for a Law Enforcement duty belt?
Do you jump when you do your burpees, or just stand up? 😂 (great reviews!)
Dad haha I'm jumping. It's at like 300x fast forward. Plus I'm old and lazy lol it's like...a hop
@@ThinLineDefenseCo I hear ya Walsh! I’m in the same boat! You’re doing a great job, my friend. Keep it up!
@@dad2022 hah appreciate it and thanks for watching and for the comments. It's a lot more fun to do these when people enjoy them!
Loons like a great belt! I was considering the Ronin? But I think I want this one instead.
They're both great. I love them both. If I was getting one right now though.... The Axl. It's just badass and stupid light.
Let me know what you pick!
-Walsh
By any chance do you know if your gcode scorpion mag carriers fit on the axl eclipse belt?
What did you recommand the buckle size??
I did the 1 inch raptor buckle on mine but the buckle is easily changed so you can do whatever.
If I may ask , what knife is that you are running on the Axl?
I'm pretty sure it was Gerber strongarm but I've changed it to an esse. Both were Fantasti knifes, the esse was just a tad nicer
-Walsh
Still love it almost a year later? Between this or blue alpha or esstac for first belt
Esstac is awesome because of the cost but the Axl is still my #1 so far.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo That’s great to hear because I ordered it exactly 3 minutes ago. Possibly as you were typing this haha. Instant validation. Thanks ! Stoked
Do you have plans to check out the GBRS group belt
I think I have to. I had a ton of requests for it. I reached out to them but got nothing back. I'll try again
-W
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Awesome looking forward to it!
@@bodega87 full disclosure, they won't even return an email. Take that for what it is.
@@bodega87 concur... I'll gladly review it. Looks like I gotta buy one to say I don't like it. You can sort out why I haven't yet lol
Good lord that belt seems like a lot of work. Back in stock btw but I’ll stick with Ronin.
Been lookin for a new battle belt and seen quite a few of your videos and many others, and this is definitely persuading me to get it. One thing is though, when I looked it up they were sold out of both buckles and only had the clip.
Not an issue. The buckles are prime on Amazon... And you gotta install em anyway if you buy the version with the buckles.
I’m torn on belts man! Im really leaning to this one, however I was considering Ronin and BFG. This will be the first battle belt I buy. If you could have only 1 belt, which one would you take? Im a range shooter and enjoy a few pistol training classes a year.
Additionally, if I were to go with the Axl, what inner belt is your favorite for this set up? In your comments you mention how you really like comfort of the syzygy inner but you then mentioned it’s a con and that you can match it with any inner belt.
Anyway…. Looking forward to your reply! Thanks a ton, all your videos have been extremely helpful!
The Axl is definitely my number 1. I definitely recommend it wayyy over the CHLK and it's a close tie to the Ronin.
I use the Axl 100% of the time now. For inner belts, the blue alpha gear low-profile inner belt just can't be beat. It's what the whole team uses. duty... screwing around... doesn't matter.... it's the one.
Hope that helps! Axl and blue alpha gear is my current setup I use. The ronin is cool but the Axl is next level.
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo ordered… got a link for the proper raptor buckle?
@@bobby_cee this is the one that comes with the raptor buckle version:
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@@bobby_cee have you received yours yet? I just ordered, was hoping I would get it within two weeks..
@@59thApacheRangers I did get mine, sadly the size was a bit small (it fit-just wanted a bit more adjustment) they took it back via RMA no questions asked. Waiting on the new one to shown up.
The belt makes velcro noises when i holster my glock and move around its just in the holster area though is that normal?
What other holster adapter will fit great with this type of belt?
A ubl mid ride would be fine... It'll be more uncomfortable and you'll need some zip ties or something to get it sized. Same way you'd do it on a ronin or any other belt though
@@ThinLineDefenseCo I think the UBL belt slot is about 2” tall with the belt being 1.9” do you think it will wiggle a lot? But true north does makes life easier for sure
@@raymondkuk5409 even the Ronin senshi has a small gap. You'd be fine but you'll want some small zip ties to hold it in place.
Being loose will give you a really annoying inconsistent draw
Would you recommend this over the ferro concepts bison?
I haven't used that belt but the bison uses the standard design of a MOLLE belt and adds Tegris on top. it's like the gap between the old and the new generation... like 1.5.
The axl is fantastic but the wait and ship times can be absolutely stupid. Expect to wait 4 months....
Take a look at attack pak. Their belt is the new one that I think is going to take my top spot in belts!
-Walsh
Does it come with inner belt?
What mag pouches are those an where u get them from??
Those are Tyr Tactical happy mag pouches. They are definitely a hidden gem.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo oh nice!! Got to see if I can find them
@@Dusty96 they're a military supplier so they have stock. It's just a tad pricey for berry complaint gear.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo oh pricey huh? O.o
@@Dusty96 a little more than normal but not insane.
I just hang my earpro over the grip of my gun. If im shooting, the earpro goes on, and if im not shooting, the gun is in my holster anyways.
Good point. I just wanted to store it with my belt and not in another bag. It's a first world problem for sure haha
How the hell did you get the holster mount to fit over the ends of the belt?
The MHA from true north? I just sandwich it. I'm pretty sure I show it in that video
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Hah! I'm dumb. I had this video and another on the same belt open at the same time. The other video showed the belt with a traditional kydex belt loop holster mount attached.
Although this video is two years old.
I have owned the HRT belt the Arc belt, that did not work for me at all, the buckle mounting and attaching it to your belt it was well pretty annoying. The video did help a lot but as i am trying to go for that sleek clean look that part of the video, yeah i was completely lost and just how you need an extra 2-4 braincells to get that set up, that was a no. I have used the belt and what i have noticed is that one the back of the belt has a huge openeing, it was annoying at times cause you feel like the belt is sagging down, eventhough its secured with the inner belt. After this annoyance i was dealing with i simply stoped using it. Since that it was not for me but, will say the belt was comfortable when wearing it, just hate that the belt saggs down once you have eveything loaded up. I also forget to mention that there are gaps in the back of the belt too. The belt I'm currently rocking is the S&S precision belt, before anyone asks no i wasn't under the influnce of any paid reviewer or YT guy to tell me to go and buy it, (nothing against you Walsh cause you sir have me on the fence of getting the javlin concept carrier). I bought the belt simply i know its quality gear and contracted for the Military, more so tier 1 special operations unit. Have to say it is a good belt and the price i have paid is similar to the axl belt, their customer service on the other hand it was nice for a contracted gear company. Oh and the belt came put to be way cheaper than the HRT arc belt. I have nothing against HRT this is just my problem with their belt system.
The axl belt seems like what i have been looking for i might pick one up with the g hooks. I use the belts for airsoft and not real world use im not sure how the axl pistol pouches will fit. The pistol that im currebtly rocking is the archon type b and the magazines seems to be shorter and slimer than a glock magazine. Not sure how well those mag well fit. If thats my main concern of the pistol mag pouches i might just go with g code or the itw ones
About the HRT belt, i understand they make extra molle slots so you can add more stuff on the belt and even have a better lock up, i bought this belt way before that. I did buy this belt and watched honest reviews not some retarded instagram influncer to tell me to buy it. Heres a few channels ive watched so far
Tactical considerations, im subbed to him, cool dude and love his honesty, he's prior 75th ranger regiment, and now is a local LEO officer in Arizona
Huntfish and shoot, small channel, love how he input on the belt and compares it to what he usually wears on duty, yes hes LEO.
Last channel i watched was focusedtripp
Almost forgot another channel was everyday citizens tactical, so 4 channels
Does the Gcode scorpion mags work with this belt??
Apologies, not sure. I think it would depend on which clips your're using. The p1 and r1...maybe?
-Walsh
Can airsoft magazine fit esstac kywi pistol pouch
Sure can! They do well. I like the gcode a little better though as it can flex a bit and fit a wider variety without any concerns.
Tyr Tactical also work as well as gcode but those a bit pricey
@@ThinLineDefenseCo thx alot
@@acess6439 absolutely! Let me know how your setup works for you. I love some Airsoft training!
That sucks that i can not afford a belt like that. If you want to give it away I'm here send it to me I'll definitely put it to good use.
the axl eclipse is half the price of all the others, and twice as good!
What size did you get?
I have a 34 inch waist so I got the medium. It definitely has a lot of room. If I was swaying on which, I'd go too small as too large would give you an insane amount of overlap and it's a pain with the inner and outer belt.
Hope that helps!
-Walsh
I hope they come out with a taller version so it has a height of 3 molle rows. Especially since it the outer belt
Would g code scorpion rifle and pistol pouches attach to this belt?
It could connect but you may have to play with the different tabs to get the correct ones. I know they have that fixed length and even on my ronin I gotta kinda lock them in place with some ranger bands.
If you try it out, let me know!
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Thank you! I will be trying it out. Are there any pouches similar to the g code that would fit this belt easier?
@@andrewertl8170 For Gcode style, I'ld look at Tyr happy mag pouches. They're the only true hybrid of esstac and gcode. Otherwise Esstac is fantastic.
I also showed the Axl node pouch which works extremely well on the eclipse too. Check that video out.
-Walsh
Ordered mine the day it came out and still haven’t received it.
Same. I got mine last week. Did you do the raptor buckle too? I had success with reaching out to them via email.
Yes I also had the raptor as well. Just send an email now, just don’t wanna be that guy bugging any one I know how things are.
I love my WTF straps. Hella easier than the malice clips and mine don't flop AT ALL. Maybe I just got lucky
The problem is time. They slowly stretch out the more you use them.
I moved away from both honestly. 3/4 one wrap is the secret sauce
@@ThinLineDefenseCo so just 3/4" velcro or is it the velcro ties? I just ordered the WPS inner belt and the Eclipse with your link based off your great review. Total newb here so your help is much appreciated. Do you have a list of what you have found to work on this belt that you use? My intended use is range, training, bump in the night do it all civilian belt. Thanks and Excellent content!
Great reviews man. Belts are way to expensive just to jump into blindly. Have you tried being seated in a vehicle for long periods? I know it was fine for burpees but 10 hours in a patrol car might be different.
I wouldn't mind seeing a general belt overview or comparison video. General pros and cons of different models or styles.
I can certainly try it but I think would be more a function of what all I had on it. If i put a bit ol back pouch on and a UBL mid ride, it will definitely hurt my back and dig into my hip.
I gotta do some editing today, I'll keep the belt on all day and let you know lol
And noted on all the belts. I could do one big one on all these damn belts lol
@@ThinLineDefenseCo thanks man. That would be great. Glad i found this channel. It's been a big help. Sharing your stuff with all my cop friends who need gear. What's your day job? If you don't mind
@@adamdyment9732 The team is retired and active military along with police and federal agents. You gotta figure out who is who though lol
-Walsh
ZYZYZYZYZGYYZZZLIGY LMAO !!! not for us, we stay with BISON and a GBRS bud great fun video !
cheers
Slow n smooth smooth is fast
ehh I think both of those are just old school belts with tegris slapped on em.
Like version 1.5.
An upgrade...but barely.
I'll do a GBRS belt video soon but the Bison is the definition of instagram gear. Hard pass.
-Walsh
Nobody wants sad and droopy.........
Poop. Now I gotta break the news to my bank account.
I know you're not running wtf strips lol
@@ThinLineDefenseCo 😂
@@zacharyfett2491 I had just been using gear earlier that day and I was like "why is all this stuff falling off?? I guess the wtf strips had lost some tension over time and were all saggy. I don't know why I was just commited to using them.
No more. Poop on those strips.
Wtf straps are best straps
@@aubrey5569 well....we can only settle this like grown ups. Time for thumb wrestling!
“...When things get a little stabby” 😂🤣😂🤣
Haha I had my wife do a once over before I uploaded...that was like my main question "did you laugh at the stabby part?" Lol
Anyone know which gcode softshell attachments would work best?
I just did a gbrs loadout video where I did a ton of belt options. All of those would work great on the Axl eclipse too.
I highly recommend the node pouch video too. Take care!
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo thanks for the info. What attachment did you use for the gcode softshells? I'll take a look at that video. Thanks a lot. I'll be sure to use your links!
@@JGoodman333 I think those are the R1 clips but it all depends on how you hook it all up or want it hooked up. The R1 uses MOLLE but there are also the belt ones.
I also used ranger bands to add some extra security so they don't move up and down in the MOLLE slot.
So that may be a vote for the belt tabs ... Are those r3s?? Not sure
-Walsh
sizz - eh - gee
Wwww - allllllll - EEEEEE
I’m still going to choose the war poet belt
Always a great choice. It's a bit more of the legacy design but nothing wrong with it. It is certainly a top 3.
-Walsh
I was going to get a belt from ronin however I only have use of 1 arm so I made my choice based off of the edc belt that can fasten with one hand
concur, their EDC belt is what I use.... the whole team does!
@@ThinLineDefenseCo nice
Syzygy- pronounced sizzzigeee. An alignment of the planets
slapshuggy... got it!
@@ThinLineDefenseCo 🤣
This thing looks finnicky as hell.
The main thing is to be careful how you store it as the Tegris will sort of get stuck in the position it's stored in. Joe kept it buckled on the floor and it got an awkward bow in it. He left it flat on the table and the kink worked out. He uses it when he goes out coyote hunting.
- Jason
Why do you keep putting an “N” in the name of the inner belt? 😂😂😂 had me dying laughing … now you can sell me your ronin … sizz-IG-gee ?
Sizzzurrrrrannnguannnggyyy??
I DON'T SEE THAT BEING BETTER THAN A RONIN BELT. LOOKS CHEAP
Ohhhh no no no...the tegris is absolutely awesome. I will tell you I love them both though but the axl is a generational jump. They're both fantastic choices.
-Walsh
Has this guy ever served at all? I mean shooting on flat range is cool........but
I'm literally I'm my back yard. I'm definitely not some level 100 wizard hah if you're looking for battle use, you're in the wrong place.
Lol too funny.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo I should have said have you served or have any combat experience
@@joshw3585 regulations prevent me from answering that question.
We come from a basic angle of the every day person that want wants to own gear or learn to use products. We're not try hards.
If you want combat experience tips, this isn't the place.
You need to have a degree in Nuke physics.
That's a NOPE from me!
to... use a belt? maybe I'm not following
@@ThinLineDefenseCo
Just seems too complex, in comparison from many of the other tactical belts on the market. . . .
@@Anth1963 haha which part?
T rex arms Mars carrier
7:00 wow really? All that work just to tie up lose ends 😒 . Go Kore or go home!
Still sold out! 🤦♂️
I'll do my best to track any release dates
Con.
Lead time.
Truth! I didn't dig this one because I wasn't sure if it was me or just my combination that took so long. I was also hoping they fixed the 2 month wait...but agreed.
Come on you can jump higher on those burpees lol
no lol I'm old.
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo lol
Salty they are not in stock
Back orders are only a few weeks out and the raptor Buckles can be found on Amazon with prime.
I think only black can be back ordered though.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo but how can I style on everyone at the big state training event in two weeks if it takes more than that? 😭
Seriously where's that info at? On the website it just says backorder.
@@gp9616 haha I hear you. The ones that say backorder are two weeks out but I think the "sold out" ones can't even be gotten yet.