mal ganis truly was the peak of ascension! Mal ganis systems + the OG criminal intent system that made u an outlaw of your own faction forcing u to live in bootybay or the outside world would go insanely hard
Archetypes is the push I needed to try A52. I finally gave Elune a chance after your last video. 64 atm on Elune and don’t feel connected at all due to build being entirely RNG.
You got me mcdoubles! You tricked me into playing again!! Thankfully I only did 7 prestiges before my build was still shit I ran out of gold for auras and quit the re roll simulator. At least WORS alpha is sick
i tried getting into this server so many times over the years, but only after this update i could finally enjoy it 😄 i picked the Crimson Champion archetype and it slaps hard 🙏
The archetype system is by far one of the best additions they've added and I love the Mcdoubles cook on cycling out builds every season for the archetype. I would imagine it's also 1000% easier for the balance team to handle as well.
I'm really loving Ascension and I think I'm playing it more than I ever did. Area 52 for chilling and playing diff archetypes. Wildcard for the grind. Both very fun to play!
If I were to compare the situation between A52 & Elune too something similar it would be to compare Fortnite to Tarkov. Both are battle royals, but one is more chill and casual/new player friendly while the other is very "hardcore/tryhard." Looking back to Elune, the thing that holds people back is the need for godly luck and three things that take a lot of time: rerolls, cards (specifically legendary cards that synergize) & knowledge of build synergy (of what works together and what cards compound their power level upon each other to extreme thresholds.) To acquire the second two takes time that many people simply don't have the time for and the knowledge of the best way to going about farming for cards isn't exactly out in the open. I'm sure you can ask people but you'd probably get five different answers. Another point that come to mind is that if the best way, not sure if it is, to acquire rerolls is prestiging then that would generate the optic that obtaining a large number of rerolls is "P2W" due to the need to buy exp pots & aura's to even begin to complete the number of prestige's required **in a timely manner** to obtain a decent number of rerolls. Wither or not this is the truth of the matter or not doesn't really matter as much as what the perception is to the current system is like and if something is even remotely P2W that's a huge turnoff/hardline that many won't cross.
100%, haven't played ascension since they released tbc, but I always hated the seasonal realms because of the rng, I'm fine with having to farm, but it being rng based is what turned me off and made me play on area52 for basically all of my playtime. If they implemented unlimited cards, to where you could create your entire build from cards, i think it would be a lot healthier, people would still farm/prestige a lot, but there's a finality to it, you collect all the cards you need, you're constantly working towards that goal and even though the progress is slow, its linear
The thing about fire in build draft is that there is so many possible builds to work upon that you'll more times then not have something solid to work with by max lvl
The archtype system feel so cool. One of the biggest things making it hard for me to get into aschention is just how complex it is and how hard it is for me to figure out what to do and whats good.
this is something other MMO's need rift had something kinda like this and it was nice. with the continual expansion of enchants and what not in ascension its very much a good update. i just hope that they keep updating the archtypes or like change them out.
Archetypes have been in the game for a while now, they just didn't have the fancy UI and you had to manually select a build in the hero architect, nice to see the qol has been improved massively though!
If the Archetype system is so popular that it made the free-pick realm as populated, or more so than the seasonal realm. It makes me think Conquest of Azeroth is going to be huge.
Mcdoubles shows builds and are a phenomenal force of nature. He helped bring us all to ascension, but dont follow his guides. Never ever, ever, ever put in all your skill card slots.
It's just custom classes for classless, but I wish A52 had more population, I get people crave that seasonal RNG dopamine rushes but A52 deserves more players, especially newcomers so they can easily and freely learn ascensions systems
Elune has it's problems but what you mainly need in that realm for a build to work is time investment. Just by prestiging every day you will get more and more scrolls and thus getting the things you want. And I personally like that, most of the 50-100k build are from people who has 2-3k scrolls invested into a build. We can argue about the luck factor, but i feel like i always can make the build improve.
Hey Mcdoubles, you can't just card random things and play like previous season. You need really need to hone in some of your main abilities, looking for high modify % talents and synergies talents to boost your main. You also want to invest at least 500 rolls to test your build out before pretige again. I personally don't like how rng S9 is but it also open up some interesting possibilities.
Yeah mcdoubles, area 52 has a lot of content now, and people is supernice BUT the balance is different there so be aware, btw, is that mcdoubles0 your legit first original char? WOW
i would love to see you play master of shadows again i watched that playtrough like 3 times and i hope you will look into it again i even tried to make my own failed miserabley
My love of ascension came from Mcdoubles, strange not to see Arctis and Feugo build in the Character creation Archetype tho....can you play Arctis and Feugo in the new season?
Times change. Because theres too many abilities/talents/skills for the RNG aspect to not just burn people out on, I know there are lots that like the "gambling" aspect of Ascension but like most things, as the player base gets older and responsibilities happen people dont have hours/days to prestige 10+ times to get a half way decent build. I have been playing Area 52 the last couple of months and having way more fun, than I can remember in a while, that I did on Elune. Love the vids and insight
@@cbugyra97 Idk exactly how to answer that I guess it would depend on what you are looking for. Its definitely not as populated as Elune is, but thats cause a new season just dropped. I would consider it to be low-medium I guess.
I feel like the 'changes' they made to how abilities roll based on your previous selections just broke the game even more. I started a full-on melee build, no magic whatsoever, and chose nothing but physical dmg talents and rage / energy builders. I'm at 50 now and, apart from my card choices, everything I have is either magic-based or a druid ability for a transformation I don't have. Feels bad.
The WIldcard actually NEEDS the player to be ok with having little to no control, it require you to be commited to the bit and take it as it comes It can be fun, it can be good and it can be bad and annoying, but it is an experience Personaly my builds has come 80% right as i wanted them, LOTS of rerolls of course but hey. But for people not wanting the randomness, then Area 52 is perfectly viable. The real difference is that as of right now, Elune (the wildcard server) has like 1500 extra skills & talents that are not present on Area 52 or in another form. So there's that, but as the season will end and Elune characters will be converted into Area52 characters, NORMALY, those new skills/talents should be added to Area52. So give it a try no matter wich server you go for.
ATM I came back to and only saw OWTL been the dps build I saw in dungeons in the last 3 weeks not mixed builds ATM due to OWTL hitting 15k my arcane gunslinger hits for 6k I don't feel like I'm gone have any pugs for raids this go around.
I still can't be in good terms with random talents.... I know they added systems to mitigate the randomness but that's just adding a system to fix the previous bad system instead of getting rid of it completely. Ill wait until next seasons.
All the changes look good but as long as theres random abilities AND talents the seasonal realm might as well not exist to me. With all the changes theyve made to rerolling they know its a problem and anti fun so instead of getting rid of it they just implement more systems to alleviate the badness of the previous system.
20k is doable with basic gear, rn theres not much gear for some builds others have access to some slightly better gear and it enables strong builds to get 70-100k shit is gonna need a nerf i leveled to 70 soloing dungeons, twice, and it was far too easy, i don't think going from a fresh mythic raid geared level 60 and without real effort soloing instances all the way to 70 was intended, it feels like mana storm balance has made it so the only thing that is an issue to solo instances is the damage you take and many builds are a bit tanky especially due to manastorm promoting self reliant builds. average dps i see in rdf is still low, but its always gonna have a huge number of new/poorly built players. 9k dps renders the rest of the group spectators.
I've been loving the archetype system on Area 52, would love to have the same on Elune so I could play with my friend AND not have to worry about making the build. I don't really like the RNG aspect of it
Don't be do same mistake mcdoubles did, you guys are supose to leave Ms at 69 that way it does not transform the entire raid into end game mode screwing your team mates into a wipe 😅
Do not and I repeat DO NOT LVL 70 IN A MS LVLING. Its basically formalities/politeness to LEAVE @69. You ruin it for every1 else bc your greed ass could do 1-3 SOLO ms to get from 69-70. It scales it to END-GAME content making it much harder usually guaranteeing full wipe. Also if theres anyway you can tell the team to add BLACK hair for female Blood Elfs, that would be great man.
mal ganis truly was the peak of ascension! Mal ganis systems + the OG criminal intent system that made u an outlaw of your own faction forcing u to live in bootybay or the outside world would go insanely hard
Archetypes is the push I needed to try A52. I finally gave Elune a chance after your last video. 64 atm on Elune and don’t feel connected at all due to build being entirely RNG.
mcdoubles back to ascensions feels so good
You bet man, sad to see him switch a lot tho, but happy for him getting involved in other projects aswell
21:53 "This guy outdps-ed my frost build" while going through healers 😭
Nice to see another vid, hope your work is going good, McDoubles)
im so happy to see how well you and your channel have been doing :D I can't wait to see it continue to grow
You got me mcdoubles! You tricked me into playing again!! Thankfully I only did 7 prestiges before my build was still shit I ran out of gold for auras and quit the re roll simulator. At least WORS alpha is sick
A52 is big right now cause Sunwell and Manastorm just came out for it.
i tried getting into this server so many times over the years, but only after this update i could finally enjoy it 😄 i picked the Crimson Champion archetype and it slaps hard 🙏
Pretty cool. Would love to have seen how much dps the build(s) actually does at max so I can pick a viable one.
4:20 should've taken the fire corruption. :3
The archetype system is by far one of the best additions they've added and I love the Mcdoubles cook on cycling out builds every season for the archetype. I would imagine it's also 1000% easier for the balance team to handle as well.
I'm really loving Ascension and I think I'm playing it more than I ever did. Area 52 for chilling and playing diff archetypes. Wildcard for the grind. Both very fun to play!
If I were to compare the situation between A52 & Elune too something similar it would be to compare Fortnite to Tarkov. Both are battle royals, but one is more chill and casual/new player friendly while the other is very "hardcore/tryhard." Looking back to Elune, the thing that holds people back is the need for godly luck and three things that take a lot of time: rerolls, cards (specifically legendary cards that synergize) & knowledge of build synergy (of what works together and what cards compound their power level upon each other to extreme thresholds.) To acquire the second two takes time that many people simply don't have the time for and the knowledge of the best way to going about farming for cards isn't exactly out in the open. I'm sure you can ask people but you'd probably get five different answers.
Another point that come to mind is that if the best way, not sure if it is, to acquire rerolls is prestiging then that would generate the optic that obtaining a large number of rerolls is "P2W" due to the need to buy exp pots & aura's to even begin to complete the number of prestige's required **in a timely manner** to obtain a decent number of rerolls. Wither or not this is the truth of the matter or not doesn't really matter as much as what the perception is to the current system is like and if something is even remotely P2W that's a huge turnoff/hardline that many won't cross.
100%, haven't played ascension since they released tbc, but I always hated the seasonal realms because of the rng, I'm fine with having to farm, but it being rng based is what turned me off and made me play on area52 for basically all of my playtime. If they implemented unlimited cards, to where you could create your entire build from cards, i think it would be a lot healthier, people would still farm/prestige a lot, but there's a finality to it, you collect all the cards you need, you're constantly working towards that goal and even though the progress is slow, its linear
The thing about fire in build draft is that there is so many possible builds to work upon that you'll more times then not have something solid to work with by max lvl
The archtype system feel so cool. One of the biggest things making it hard for me to get into aschention is just how complex it is and how hard it is for me to figure out what to do and whats good.
this is something other MMO's need rift had something kinda like this and it was nice. with the continual expansion of enchants and what not in ascension its very much a good update. i just hope that they keep updating the archtypes or like change them out.
Archetypes have been in the game for a while now, they just didn't have the fancy UI and you had to manually select a build in the hero architect, nice to see the qol has been improved massively though!
Man I’m excited as hell! Haven’t been to the website in a long time! What happened to the message boards? 😮 not there anymore
If the Archetype system is so popular that it made the free-pick realm as populated, or more so than the seasonal realm. It makes me think Conquest of Azeroth is going to be huge.
Mcdoubles shows builds and are a phenomenal force of nature. He helped bring us all to ascension, but dont follow his guides. Never ever, ever, ever put in all your skill card slots.
It's just custom classes for classless, but I wish A52 had more population, I get people crave that seasonal RNG dopamine rushes but A52 deserves more players, especially newcomers so they can easily and freely learn ascensions systems
Elune has it's problems but what you mainly need in that realm for a build to work is time investment. Just by prestiging every day you will get more and more scrolls and thus getting the things you want. And I personally like that, most of the 50-100k build are from people who has 2-3k scrolls invested into a build. We can argue about the luck factor, but i feel like i always can make the build improve.
The server switch in the middle was sad but not surprising. I tried playing Elune yesterday and it was too much.
Hey Mcdoubles, you can't just card random things and play like previous season. You need really need to hone in some of your main abilities, looking for high modify % talents and synergies talents to boost your main. You also want to invest at least 500 rolls to test your build out before pretige again. I personally don't like how rng S9 is but it also open up some interesting possibilities.
I just got back in to it and started a mad shadow build
id like to see you try the fire cat tbh, never seen it in action but it seems cool in concept
It's crazy how the not 100% RNG based server is fun 😅
A52 will always be my favorite
Yeah mcdoubles, area 52 has a lot of content now, and people is supernice BUT the balance is different there so be aware, btw, is that mcdoubles0 your legit first original char? WOW
i would love to see you play master of shadows again i watched that playtrough like 3 times and i hope you will look into it again i even tried to make my own failed miserabley
Been playing in the exact same way with archetypes
I really wish you could get the mog at level 70 as a reward for playing the archetype all the way to 70.
Whoop Mc DubZz back in the saddle XD
My love of ascension came from Mcdoubles, strange not to see Arctis and Feugo build in the Character creation Archetype tho....can you play Arctis and Feugo in the new season?
That beam of hatred skill is disgusting in pvp/bgs. You should check it out
Times change. Because theres too many abilities/talents/skills for the RNG aspect to not just burn people out on, I know there are lots that like the "gambling" aspect of Ascension but like most things, as the player base gets older and responsibilities happen people dont have hours/days to prestige 10+ times to get a half way decent build. I have been playing Area 52 the last couple of months and having way more fun, than I can remember in a while, that I did on Elune.
Love the vids and insight
How does the A52 population feel?
@@cbugyra97 Idk exactly how to answer that I guess it would depend on what you are looking for. Its definitely not as populated as Elune is, but thats cause a new season just dropped. I would consider it to be low-medium I guess.
Made me want to bring back my friends to area 52 😭
I feel like the 'changes' they made to how abilities roll based on your previous selections just broke the game even more. I started a full-on melee build, no magic whatsoever, and chose nothing but physical dmg talents and rage / energy builders.
I'm at 50 now and, apart from my card choices, everything I have is either magic-based or a druid ability for a transformation I don't have.
Feels bad.
The WIldcard actually NEEDS the player to be ok with having little to no control, it require you to be commited to the bit and take it as it comes
It can be fun, it can be good and it can be bad and annoying, but it is an experience
Personaly my builds has come 80% right as i wanted them, LOTS of rerolls of course but hey.
But for people not wanting the randomness, then Area 52 is perfectly viable.
The real difference is that as of right now, Elune (the wildcard server) has like 1500 extra skills & talents that are not present on Area 52 or in another form.
So there's that, but as the season will end and Elune characters will be converted into Area52 characters, NORMALY, those new skills/talents should be added to Area52.
So give it a try no matter wich server you go for.
you forgot the fact that we simply cant get seasonal rewards on area 52... thats just dumb
I just downloaded ascension wow and when i go to create a character i don’t see those subclasses at the bottom. Can someone tell me where to go?
sometimes I miss the old times on Ascension...
ATM I came back to and only saw OWTL been the dps build I saw in dungeons in the last 3 weeks not mixed builds ATM due to OWTL hitting 15k my arcane gunslinger hits for 6k I don't feel like I'm gone have any pugs for raids this go around.
does anyone know if it's possible to switch archtypes after you prestige? I'd love to try different builds out!
I still can't be in good terms with random talents.... I know they added systems to mitigate the randomness but that's just adding a system to fix the previous bad system instead of getting rid of it completely. Ill wait until next seasons.
it does seem more optimal to leave cards out till the end
you get a free soulbound potion of exp, for reaching max lvl, now?
All the changes look good but as long as theres random abilities AND talents the seasonal realm might as well not exist to me. With all the changes theyve made to rerolling they know its a problem and anti fun so instead of getting rid of it they just implement more systems to alleviate the badness of the previous system.
Meanwhile, I'm trying to get my OWTL working ...
20k is doable with basic gear, rn theres not much gear for some builds others have access to some slightly better gear and it enables strong builds to get 70-100k shit is gonna need a nerf i leveled to 70 soloing dungeons, twice, and it was far too easy, i don't think going from a fresh mythic raid geared level 60 and without real effort soloing instances all the way to 70 was intended, it feels like mana storm balance has made it so the only thing that is an issue to solo instances is the damage you take and many builds are a bit tanky especially due to manastorm promoting self reliant builds. average dps i see in rdf is still low, but its always gonna have a huge number of new/poorly built players. 9k dps renders the rest of the group spectators.
I've been loving the archetype system on Area 52, would love to have the same on Elune so I could play with my friend AND not have to worry about making the build. I don't really like the RNG aspect of it
Good videoman
Too much choices but too little end game viability.
Don't be do same mistake mcdoubles did, you guys are supose to leave Ms at 69 that way it does not transform the entire raid into end game mode screwing your team mates into a wipe 😅
Do not and I repeat DO NOT LVL 70 IN A MS LVLING. Its basically formalities/politeness to LEAVE @69. You ruin it for every1 else bc your greed ass could do 1-3 SOLO ms to get from 69-70. It scales it to END-GAME content making it much harder usually guaranteeing full wipe.
Also if theres anyway you can tell the team to add BLACK hair for female Blood Elfs, that would be great man.
What’s the point , ascension is the randomness. If it’s not that why not just stick to classic
Your videos are different since you are paid by them. Not going to say shill but yeah.
Pls don't make videos more than 20 minutes