You sir are much more patient than I - so thumbs up for that alone. About half way through this video I was thinking it would have been time to switch to pallet forks for the remainder of the clean up. It may work fine for some, but I'll take a hydraulic grapple and a dedicated 3rd function. However, what stunned me is that when I just looked there currently doesn't seem to be much of a price difference between this and some hydraulic grapples (particularly if/when shipping costs are considered) .. and given a couple of properly sized hoses could be run to a rear remote in order to use a hydraulic grapple (or any other hydraulic implement on the loader)...... To each their own though......
Thanks for showing the BC in action. I agree with your comments about it. Haven’t shown it on my channel because I hate to bad-mouth a product from a small American Company. However, folks need to see that this is NOT a good compromise for a grapple.
@tractor time with tim I don't agree with this assessment. I've used mine for a year now and love it. The issue with the serrations on the upper teeth was easily solved by removing them. It completely lets go of the brush now. The video looks like a combination of inexperienced operation as well as bad set up. The self leveling loader is not ideal. Your fork stops were set way to high. Try them in the bottom holes. The damage you pointed out under your loader frame was not caused by the bc because the stops only hit in one spot. This grapple is great for the price and way better than paying for third function. The tractor you have is a little too powerful for a 4ft implement. You need an implement sized to your tractor. I have several videos on my channel Markelly Farm about the brush crusher working great.
@@TractorTimewithTim yes i do but they dont work on my tractor and i cant afford one or the cost of third function which is why this one is the best for me and im quite pleased with it. Check my video of a few weeks ago and you can see it in action. Ps im a loyal subscriber to ttwt.
See the video by Dakota Adney. The larger JD tractors (4 and 5 series) put so much pressure on the lynch pin and mounting plate when using this grapple it will break the mounting plate. I had the same experience as Adney. It may work fine on 2 and 3 series tractors, but if you have a 4 series JD do yourself a favor and get a hydraulic grapple. The design of a hydraulic grapple is so much better that it's worth the money.
Sorry to say , the more you work with this grapple the better it works !!!!! It seems the operator needed a lesson how to use the piece of equipment !!! It looks it works great for being a manual 👍👍👍👍👍
I run equipment for a living. I ran this for three days and I had had enough of it, there’s no comparison between it and a hydraulic grapple. I’m glad it works for you but it’s not for me. Thanks for watching
I have the brush crusher on my 4720. Been using it for over a year and have had little to no issues. I agree that it isn’t as good as a “real” grapple, but it has saved me more than not. I don’t like that you cannot lift as high when it is under pressure. That sucks but it still works moving the big logs and brush around my property. I placed pads on the loader arm to reduce the friction/wear.
Thanks for the video. I w considered one of these but after watching you, a real equipment operator with it I definitely don’t want one. Looks like a 3rd function is in the works for me. Keep up the great work!
@@DLHFarms I lost all interest when I saw how the “mechanical” function was for it to rub up and down on the loader itself. Thanks again for showing it working in the real world with someone who knows how to operate 👍
Something like that may be just the ticket for guys like me that rarely need a grapple Looks like you could bolt some 3/4" thick delrin pads onto the bottom of the loader arms to prevent the wear issue.Countersink the bolt heads so they are out of the way and the pads would be easy enough to replace once worn too thin.
3/28/22; Howdy from New Orleans area! Much enjoy this & other videos of yours, great to be out in fresh air doing all kinds of productive stuff. This video made in December, shows that mechanical grapple, probably made to grab logs not bulky branches. So hope you video putting that 3rd function hydraulic cylinder assembly, control arm & grapple bucket you selected. Have watched Everything Attachments videos. They have several units each with different features. One in particular focuses on the 90° open area at ground contact to vertical back (at quick attach area). This is an open 90° design so logs & other items can be easily fitted & held into unit by lid. Recently watched OWTM (Morgans) where Mike bought Vernig grapple to go with his Kubota SkidSteer. SkidSteer has not yet arrived. This unit is not 90° at bottom-to-back area but 1/2" curved steel bracing. Hope this info gives you some comparisons. Am sure other manufacturer's have high quality steel, bracing & 'scoop' design too. Hope to see you installing 3rd function & new grapple soon. Love yur fresh air videos!⛱👍👍👍🧑🔧
Unfortunately I did not film installing the 3rd function on the tractor I had Covid at the time and felt terrible, would work on it a few minutes at a time then I would have to go home and rest. As far as the grapple being made for logs, well they need to change the name from Brush Crusher to Log Crusher then haha.
@Dennis you saved myself some $$ I was looking at this grapple for my JD 4100. That said. If I had done the purchase. The welder and torch would be out modifying it.
I'm using a set of pallet forks for brush and a grapple like that to me would be beneficial since I don't move a whole lot of brush every year. Pallet forks are okay but it is difficult to move a lot at one time. I find that the brush falls off if not stack right or if it's dead and won't lay flat.
Well I would of given up on that grapple thing age's ago. We'll done to you for your perseverance with it. I think a muck bucket with hydraulic top grab would be better suited to that job than that grapple 😳😧🤐 good video sir loving that new jd and cab you have betting it wasn't a bad 15 hrs in there either 😉 stay safe 🏴
Brother will the 3rd function work on a JD 5101E tractor I got a 10 bale WR long grappler. Thinking of hooking it up to the back connections but if it works with third function system I'd rather do it on front. Let me know. Thanks.
Hello Denise I would not get one. Think to much time wasted trying to get a full load. I dont like it that the bottom moves poor design. Hope your feeling better have a good day.
What if it had hard links to the top and bottom grapple so that when you curled down it would close them together and when you curled up it would open them?
hey Dennis been watching your videos for years. im the Retired NCSHP, i have gone and got my CDL and am driving for a friend who started a hay and feed business in Bunn NC. I was wondering if you have any round bales for sale?
I’d much rather use pallet forks, push it all up in bigger piles, mash em down and do back and move them in a week when they stick together with the 150hp tractor. Grapples just aren’t worth the money. They actually slow down the operation because of their limitations.
You sir are much more patient than I - so thumbs up for that alone. About half way through this video I was thinking it would have been time to switch to pallet forks for the remainder of the clean up. It may work fine for some, but I'll take a hydraulic grapple and a dedicated 3rd function.
However, what stunned me is that when I just looked there currently doesn't seem to be much of a price difference between this and some hydraulic grapples (particularly if/when shipping costs are considered) .. and given a couple of properly sized hoses could be run to a rear remote in order to use a hydraulic grapple (or any other hydraulic implement on the loader)......
To each their own though......
Yep 👍
Thanks for showing the BC in action. I agree with your comments about it.
Haven’t shown it on my channel because I hate to bad-mouth a product from a small American Company. However, folks need to see that this is NOT a good compromise for a grapple.
Indeed...btw.. someone recognized my TTWT shirt today
@@2naturesownplace that is cool!
I put a link to this video in a post on our channel. Hopefully folks will watch it from there.
@tractor time with tim I don't agree with this assessment. I've used mine for a year now and love it. The issue with the serrations on the upper teeth was easily solved by removing them. It completely lets go of the brush now. The video looks like a combination of inexperienced operation as well as bad set up. The self leveling loader is not ideal. Your fork stops were set way to high. Try them in the bottom holes. The damage you pointed out under your loader frame was not caused by the bc because the stops only hit in one spot. This grapple is great for the price and way better than paying for third function. The tractor you have is a little too powerful for a 4ft implement. You need an implement sized to your tractor. I have several videos on my channel Markelly Farm about the brush crusher working great.
@@markellyfarm do you have any experience with a ‘real’ grapple?
@@TractorTimewithTim yes i do but they dont work on my tractor and i cant afford one or the cost of third function which is why this one is the best for me and im quite pleased with it. Check my video of a few weeks ago and you can see it in action. Ps im a loyal subscriber to ttwt.
See the video by Dakota Adney. The larger JD tractors (4 and 5 series) put so much pressure on the lynch pin and mounting plate when using this grapple it will break the mounting plate. I had the same experience as Adney. It may work fine on 2 and 3 series tractors, but if you have a 4 series JD do yourself a favor and get a hydraulic grapple. The design of a hydraulic grapple is so much better that it's worth the money.
Thanks for sharing Dennis. You got more patience than i got.
Sorry to say , the more you work with this grapple the better it works !!!!! It seems the operator needed a lesson how to use the piece of equipment !!! It looks it works great for being a manual 👍👍👍👍👍
I run equipment for a living. I ran this for three days and I had had enough of it, there’s no comparison between it and a hydraulic grapple. I’m glad it works for you but it’s not for me. Thanks for watching
Good morning Dennis! The new field is looking good, thanks for the ride-a-long.
Thanks!
I have the brush crusher on my 4720. Been using it for over a year and have had little to no issues. I agree that it isn’t as good as a “real” grapple, but it has saved me more than not.
I don’t like that you cannot lift as high when it is under pressure. That sucks but it still works moving the big logs and brush around my property.
I placed pads on the loader arm to reduce the friction/wear.
It works and if you rarely need a grapple it’s probably just fine.
Thanks for the video. I w considered one of these but after watching you, a real equipment operator with it I definitely don’t want one. Looks like a 3rd function is in the works for me. Keep up the great work!
You’re going to be way ahead to just get the 3rd function unless your just tinkering around. It’s hard on the loader also.
@@DLHFarms I lost all interest when I saw how the “mechanical” function was for it to rub up and down on the loader itself. Thanks again for showing it working in the real world with someone who knows how to operate 👍
Thanks and you’re welcome!
Something like that may be just the ticket for guys like me that rarely need a grapple Looks like you could bolt some 3/4" thick delrin pads onto the bottom of the loader arms to prevent the wear issue.Countersink the bolt heads so they are out of the way and the pads would be easy enough to replace once worn too thin.
I’ve thought about the same thing.
3/28/22; Howdy from New Orleans area! Much enjoy this & other videos of yours, great to be out in fresh air doing all kinds of productive stuff.
This video made in December, shows that mechanical grapple, probably made to grab logs not bulky branches. So hope you video putting that 3rd function hydraulic cylinder assembly, control arm & grapple bucket you selected. Have watched Everything Attachments videos. They have several units each with different features. One in particular focuses on the 90° open area at ground contact to vertical back (at quick attach area). This is an open 90° design so logs & other items can be easily fitted & held into unit by lid. Recently watched OWTM (Morgans) where Mike bought Vernig grapple to go with his Kubota SkidSteer. SkidSteer has not yet arrived. This unit is not 90° at bottom-to-back area but 1/2" curved steel bracing. Hope this info gives you some comparisons. Am sure other manufacturer's have high quality steel, bracing & 'scoop' design too.
Hope to see you installing 3rd function & new grapple soon. Love yur fresh air videos!⛱👍👍👍🧑🔧
Unfortunately I did not film installing the 3rd function on the tractor I had Covid at the time and felt terrible, would work on it a few minutes at a time then I would have to go home and rest. As far as the grapple being made for logs, well they need to change the name from Brush Crusher to Log Crusher then haha.
I considered getting one of those before I got my Massey Ferguson but I'm glad I didn't, especially after seeing this video. Thx.
You made the right choice!
Thanks for sharing Dennis.
ETA: Good job on the assessment, too much time wasted with it trying load and drop. Looks like a real struggle.
Thanks
Same problems. Going to get a real one too.
@Dennis you saved myself some $$ I was looking at this grapple for my JD 4100. That said. If I had done the purchase. The welder and torch would be out modifying it.
At least you now know some of the flaws before you bought it.
Hope you all are ok...love your hay building
Doing good! Thanks
I'm using a set of pallet forks for brush and a grapple like that to me would be beneficial since I don't move a whole lot of brush every year. Pallet forks are okay but it is difficult to move a lot at one time. I find that the brush falls off if not stack right or if it's dead and won't lay flat.
May work fine for you. It will rip off your paint though.
@@DLHFarms I may try and fab up some rubber stops onto the crusher some how or some type of wear pad for the loader arms.
I’m liking your new tractor hope you did fine with your quarantine I know this was filmed in december
I made it out alive thankfully.
@@DLHFarms I’m glad your alright it put me down for couple weeks
Me too had a fever for two weeks.
Looks like it did a pretty good job
Also can you imagine what the loader arm would look like in a few years. No that's not for me.
Bingo
That grapple was painful to watch. I’d have gone and got a tractor with 3rd function and the hydraulic grapple and put that green one up for sale lol
That tractor now has a 3rd function and proper grapple
I like the concept of that grapple, but it definitely looks like there is room for improvement with the design.
Definitely
Yep, you need a different Grapple
Hope your feeling better 👍🏻
I’m using the big one I’ve had forever on it. Works great
That last time the arm got stuck I believe that was Gavin hiding in the brush pile and he was holding on trying to stay undiscovered.
Haha
I have one , the teeth are incorrect angled and need a reground meaning change
from shark tooth to serrated tooth.......
Jenkins iron and steel best grapple I’ve had it’s a beast and not insane money
👍
With the Grapple opening being down (the way it's made) you end up losing part of the load every time. Hydraulic is definately the way to go.
I agree
I really like my clamp on debris forks for the price
I see what you mean don't look like anything I would buy I will put on the 3rd function 👌
It’s hard to get around a 3rd function without some sacrifices.
Great video, thanks!
👍
Get well...
Thanks
Lol I think you like having a a Cab? Cold in a open cab?? Not to function able that grapple? Third function and a different grapple would work easier.
Well I would of given up on that grapple thing age's ago. We'll done to you for your perseverance with it. I think a muck bucket with hydraulic top grab would be better suited to that job than that grapple 😳😧🤐 good video sir loving that new jd and cab you have betting it wasn't a bad 15 hrs in there either 😉 stay safe 🏴
Haha your probably right. I had fun in the new tractor I just felt like crap.
Brother will the 3rd function work on a JD 5101E tractor I got a 10 bale WR long grappler. Thinking of hooking it up to the back connections but if it works with third function system I'd rather do it on front. Let me know. Thanks.
Yes you can get a 3rd function on a 5E and they work great for hay grapples.
Hello Denise I would not get one. Think to much time wasted trying to get a full load. I dont like it that the bottom moves poor design. Hope your feeling better have a good day.
I’m good now
What if it had hard links to the top and bottom grapple so that when you curled down it would close them together and when you curled up it would open them?
That would be great but they didn’t do that.
@@DLHFarms you could rebuild it and make it better, stronger, faster. Rename it the... Bionic grappler!
hey Dennis been watching your videos for years. im the Retired NCSHP, i have gone and got my CDL and am driving for a friend who started a hay and feed business in Bunn NC. I was wondering if you have any round bales for sale?
I’m sorry I sold those the day I baled them.
@@DLHFarms if you ever need to sale some please let me know. We are in need in Bunn NC. Thanks.
@@stevemitchell6821 👍
It's better than a pitchfork!!!
That’s very true! But not by much! Haha!
Good video.
Thanks!
I was thinking of getting one of those rock bucket grapples, any opinion on them?
Never used a rock bucket with a grapple
I’d much rather use pallet forks, push it all up in bigger piles, mash em down and do back and move them in a week when they stick together with the 150hp tractor. Grapples just aren’t worth the money. They actually slow down the operation because of their limitations.
I use pallet forks never had a problem
Quarantine? Dennis, u okay?
Yes this was back in December
Want a 3rd function get a 25ft hose made and run it from the back.
No i did it right
with all the messing around and how much it drops when it holds barely anything to begin with. Sure looks like it would be faster to do it by hand
Haha
Sory Mr. Westendorf but I Will NOT be placing an order for one of these.
Probably a good choice
R1 tires are a little bit taller
The new Holland has R4 also
@@DLHFarms i didn't notice that hard to say then
The paint is so expensive on the deer they can’t afford to put bigger tires on
Bahaha
Do you have cows?
No I’m a hay producer
It must be hard for you to use something that doesn’t work like it should. You are used to profession grade construction equipment.
Well it doesn’t work the way I think it should.
Um, it would have been more helpful if you filmed from more angles! Just one view didn't show the whole picture. Hugs from Chicago