"They're Violent Thugs!" - MAGA Communist SCORCHES ANTIFA & Defends China

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  • @rattlesnaketv
    @rattlesnaketv  Місяць тому +25

    Find Haz Al-Din Below 👇
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  • @lysenkotheory3400
    @lysenkotheory3400 Місяць тому +57

    I'm fascinated. This is not the usual "left wing" like antifa. This is something much more authentic. I think conservatives can get behind it.

  • @Orvo2036
    @Orvo2036 Місяць тому +44

    Great convo. I look forward to watching the full podcast

  • @suiz1781
    @suiz1781 Місяць тому +51

    Interesting, I like this Haz guy

    • @hmt4173
      @hmt4173 Місяць тому +11

      Do you know where I can watch more of his stuff? He seems like a very refreshing, no non-sense thinker.

    • @heromat3400
      @heromat3400 Місяць тому +11

      @@hmt4173 Yt channels such as infrared and talonsight

    • @sirius6738
      @sirius6738 Місяць тому +3

      he also has a kick chanel where he streams often, you should check it out

  • @bordigalover4067
    @bordigalover4067 Місяць тому +33

    Thank you for hosting Haz in a fair and open-minded way. Speaks to your integrity as a content creator. Hope to see more discussions between you two in the future. We're on the same side!

  • @blackhorrorghost
    @blackhorrorghost Місяць тому +32

    Great discussion!

  • @dougspanky
    @dougspanky Місяць тому +24

    Wow can't wait for the full thing. This guy is really interesting!

  • @hey01e5
    @hey01e5 Місяць тому +47

    Very insightful discussion. Even though you and Haz may not agree on everything, we can at least have some common ground on the situation in America

  • @IronsideLJW
    @IronsideLJW Місяць тому +22

    Sounds like a super interesting discussion look forward to hearing the full conversation

  • @tiipoe
    @tiipoe Місяць тому +21

    Thanks for having Haz on your show! Looking forward to hearing the rest of the discussion

  • @nespith
    @nespith Місяць тому +20

    Very interesting looking forward to watching the full video.

  • @sebastiancespedes5842
    @sebastiancespedes5842 Місяць тому +27

    What Adam Smith meant by free markets was basically "markets free from rentiers". People take this to mean "free from taxes", but leave out other forms of rent like land rent and interest.
    This is because unlike the classical view of economics, neoclassical economics made the landlord and the banker up to be "service providers" who are productive. Since they perform land and money allocation services (what we now call the "FIRE sector"), land rent and interest are then considered not a deduction upon net national income but as the part of it (corresponding the output of the FIRE sector), as if they were the same as profits and wages.
    It's no wonder then, that while the majority of americans can't pay rent and are buried in debt, the economy is supposedly growing!
    Michael Hudson goes in great lenght about this

  • @hmt4173
    @hmt4173 Місяць тому +46

    Communism is as american as apple pie

  • @KiraleosAkis
    @KiraleosAkis Місяць тому +19

    based

  • @westcoastdgtluv
    @westcoastdgtluv Місяць тому +44

    Communism has nothing to do with utopias and ideals, it is understanding history scientifically and harnessing that knowledge to build the future

    • @hanklesacks
      @hanklesacks Місяць тому +2

      It's a religion, a faith. An ideology that is in no way shape or form rooted in any reality.

    • @SkeletorsSon
      @SkeletorsSon Місяць тому +3

      ​@@hanklesacksno it is not it is simply a way of living, communism works on small scales where everyone's interests are aligned, early man was communist they all contributed what they could to survive and better their tribe, the natives in the south american rainforests etc are still using it today, the problem is when you get too many ppl who contribute different levels of effort or lack of and ppl get annoyed and the system breaks down.

    • @hectornonayurbusiness2631
      @hectornonayurbusiness2631 Місяць тому

      Build the future of starving masses?

  • @mountfuji87
    @mountfuji87 Місяць тому +33

    Hes right

    • @HFFCANADA
      @HFFCANADA Місяць тому

      He's not tho. One can say insightful things and still ultimately be wrong... This dude is just the same type of the alphabet people. Identifying himself as a part or coming from "a group" is the most mindless sheep way to behave. *I'm* a person who can see the benefits of some parts of communism. He's a "communist" that only sees his way as beng beneficial.
      You have no integrity or core values if you say "I'm a part of X" instead of "its my opinion/belief that X is good/bad...
      He's not a group, hes a person.

    • @victorywillcome
      @victorywillcome Місяць тому +2

      @@HFFCANADA You are an absolute clown!
      You know nothing about him 🤷‍♂
      Point out where he's wrong, not your anti-communist babble?

    • @bordigalover4067
      @bordigalover4067 Місяць тому +11

      @@HFFCANADA You're behaving like a mindless sheep by kneejerk dismissing what he has to say because he calls himself a Communist. Marxism is what helped him develop his insights, it has value to him.

    • @hanklesacks
      @hanklesacks Місяць тому

      ⁠​⁠@@bordigalover4067A marxist calling someone a mindless sheep, that's rich. Whenever you types get in charge, opposing opinions simply aren't allowed, no one is allowed to stray from party orthodoxy. Same thing is happening in china even now.

  • @hqlife5128
    @hqlife5128 Місяць тому +10

    Free markets requires strong governments. That's the dialectic

  • @ElViejo1
    @ElViejo1 Місяць тому +8

    Nice! Looking forward to the full podcast

  • @tomsmith4169
    @tomsmith4169 Місяць тому +16

    Freedom means freedom from the Oligarchs!

  • @hassan-ali-
    @hassan-ali- Місяць тому +25

    Smart

  • @jameslarson4629
    @jameslarson4629 Місяць тому +8

    Great video!

  • @fromrjwithlove9819
    @fromrjwithlove9819 Місяць тому +5

    "A certain red-hat-wearing people" LMAO

  • @ambrosejoseph4843
    @ambrosejoseph4843 Місяць тому +28

    So true, I agree.

  • @YellowstoneCommie
    @YellowstoneCommie Місяць тому +10

    🦍☀️🦍☀️🦍☀️🦍☀️🦍☀️🦍☀️🦍

  • @fromrjwithlove9819
    @fromrjwithlove9819 Місяць тому +10

    Looking forward to the full podcast! This guy is really smart. I think this MAGA Communism thing could bridge the divide in America and unite the people!

  • @haroldsullivan2036
    @haroldsullivan2036 Місяць тому

    Great video great talk

  • @TheNomad2727
    @TheNomad2727 Місяць тому

    I've heard a few people from my high school days are Antifa associates and the funny thing is if I were to describe them, as they were back then, they were all pretty much nerdy misfits with a slightly aggressive streak. It's like they despised the social hierarchy that occurs naturally in any high school, however, I suspect they only despised it because they were not right up there at its peak. Because they were not atop the popularity stakes, they hated that fact, and therefore hated the more popular kids for no real reason other than their popularity..... but of course, would never say anything to them.
    I would not be at all surprised if the ranks of Antifa were filled with people just like this from high schools everywhere.

  • @cynthialou7055
    @cynthialou7055 Місяць тому

    Certainly not a Milei

  • @holbinsk
    @holbinsk Місяць тому

    Was hoping this collab would happen ever since your first MAGA Communism video Jake, glad to see it did!

  • @aaronpalmore1754
    @aaronpalmore1754 Місяць тому

    The MSGA movement is not Commie. We are the revolution that demands a return to our roots as the Founders Democratic Constitutional Republic we were supposed to be. Luv Bruv.

  • @Tinfoil_Mad_Hatter
    @Tinfoil_Mad_Hatter Місяць тому

    Jake,
    I think I know why your view counts are going down the last few days. According to Tim Pool, UA-cam made some changes on the back end that pretty much affected everybody's view counts considerably. What a load of crap. Seems SO unfair.

  • @mitchie2267
    @mitchie2267 Місяць тому

    Haz Al Diiiinnnnnn

  • @RoreyBefellows
    @RoreyBefellows Місяць тому

    What's the bigger number? Five or one?..

  • @Ockerby
    @Ockerby Місяць тому

    Say what you will about Peter Zeihan, but he's got some interesting things to say about China, as a whole, especially their demographics as it stands now...But he is just one guy, many other sources are required...

  • @bg8fairpoint610
    @bg8fairpoint610 Місяць тому +2

    A large group of people interested in the way politics gets done that is riled up does not mean it has anything to do with communism we are riled up about our Republic our rule of law and our economy the way it was not looking for a change to communism the this skimming over the top and seeing similarities is exactly what I would expect out of somebody who's read some of most of the books or half of all of the books

  • @danmercer8139
    @danmercer8139 Місяць тому +1

    There are no and never have been any Communist governments. Communism is a stateless economic model. Lenin recognized that and also that man was fundamentally incapable of Communism. He decided that Socialism would be the intermediary state until humans evolved into people capable of Communism, at which point the state would wither away. Mao attempted to jump directly to Communism, a mistake that cost at least 60,000,000 lives. Mao’s successors have decided on a different economic intermediary, Fascism. Xi is a Maoist at heart and his bumbling has ravaged the Chinese economy.

  • @aces553
    @aces553 Місяць тому +33

    Maga communist? 😂

    • @hmt4173
      @hmt4173 Місяць тому +19

      What's funny?

    • @victorywillcome
      @victorywillcome Місяць тому +16

      Stupid people laugh when they have nothing to say...

    • @bordigalover4067
      @bordigalover4067 Місяць тому +11

      We're on the same side. We're just starting to get to know each other, the beginning will be rough.

    • @RED_Theory038
      @RED_Theory038 Місяць тому +10

      Read the substack

    • @Greenapple30
      @Greenapple30 Місяць тому

      That was my first thought

  • @bg8fairpoint610
    @bg8fairpoint610 Місяць тому

    All the shop owners and craft men were the middle class

    • @victorywillcome
      @victorywillcome Місяць тому +2

      They still are... that's what MAGA people are!

    • @bg8fairpoint610
      @bg8fairpoint610 Місяць тому +1

      I agree I wasn't using the word were as if they didn't exist anymore I was just referring to the time that he was saying there wasn't a middle class at other revolutions

  • @skipd9164
    @skipd9164 Місяць тому

    At 1 point did he say maga and antif were the same. I watched many videos of maga rallies with thousands maybe 10s of thousands of people and no riots. J 6 is the day that has the most permits for protest and they all have different attitudes.

  • @seangallagher8233
    @seangallagher8233 Місяць тому +6

    This Haz Al-Din guy seems well based, except he needs to learn a lot more about what's actually going on, with corruption, enforcement, etc, in the country that he defends.

    • @frantz8824
      @frantz8824 Місяць тому +2

      Corruption occurs in China. And then the corrupt officials lose their jobs.

  • @tehmtbz
    @tehmtbz Місяць тому +5

    I've seen this guy before. He is one of only a handful of true believer Marxists I've ever come across. I don't know where the MAGA association comes from in the video title, but if he supports Trump, it's only insofar as it can be used to advance a Marxist agenda. He's very intelligent, don't underestimate his ability to conceal his true motivations.

    • @victorywillcome
      @victorywillcome Місяць тому +7

      You know nothing about him!

    • @lysenkotheory3400
      @lysenkotheory3400 Місяць тому +13

      He is very open about his beliefs

    • @RED_Theory038
      @RED_Theory038 Місяць тому +5

      What are his "true motivations"? Also he's very open about viewing trump as a symbol and not a serious policy maker.

    • @victorywillcome
      @victorywillcome Місяць тому +1

      And Trump is not the "real deal". He will compromise. In communism they get the wall.

    • @holbinsk
      @holbinsk Місяць тому

      Haz conceals nothing. It's literally all out in the open. We are communists. MAGA contains the most revolutionary elements of our population. It's that simple. "MAGA Communism" is a recognition of this fact, a re-orientation of western marxists away from 'leftist' nonsense, and towards a real politics of the working class against the corrupt oligarchical ruling class.

  • @robb6059
    @robb6059 Місяць тому +3

    "Both Communists and capitalists need to understand the nature of God. We have seen that denying God and acting independently have not brought peace."

    • @SanchoDomingo_
      @SanchoDomingo_ Місяць тому +1

      Communism is written into philosophy as anti-religion and anti-Christian, more specifically. There is no "God." Also, considering he's Jewish, he's being extremely ingenious

    • @lenranomalouseffects
      @lenranomalouseffects Місяць тому +3

      God wants us to live in total evil where no one takes power because they fear man instead of God? That doesn't make sense. God's word defies your satanism and preference for living in sin.

    • @holbinsk
      @holbinsk Місяць тому +1

      ​@@SanchoDomingo_ Haz isn't jewish, he's literally lebanese

  • @Makai77
    @Makai77 Місяць тому +10

    idk about this guy. Seems like a "if everyone would listen to me and do it this way" type of guy. Like "my kind of communism would work." Good, respectful discussion though.

    • @amiriothegreat
      @amiriothegreat Місяць тому +13

      No, if anything he's trying to demonstrate that "his" communism worked historically.

    • @victorywillcome
      @victorywillcome Місяць тому +9

      100% wrong!
      He is not spouting "his" Communism. The opposite!

    • @screwsinabell
      @screwsinabell Місяць тому +6

      This is a pretty lame criticism. "Seems like?" Weasely sniping

    • @bordigalover4067
      @bordigalover4067 Місяць тому +8

      It's good to be skeptical at first. Don't let your biases keep you from new ideas. For Haz, Communism is all about learning from the people. Thank you for hearing him out 🙏

    • @victorywillcome
      @victorywillcome Місяць тому

      ​@@bordigalover4067Great message!

  • @isturbo1984
    @isturbo1984 Місяць тому +2

    what a name. do i need to read the koron for lore? lol

    • @JOHNBURG1917
      @JOHNBURG1917 Місяць тому +7

      Not that hard to understand "MAGA would lead the revolution not tofu eating leftists" which rattlesnake mentions in the video.

    • @isturbo1984
      @isturbo1984 Місяць тому

      @@JOHNBURG1917 youre right,. it isnt hard. not talking about Jake's channel name though.

  • @user-cz9ee7nf6b
    @user-cz9ee7nf6b Місяць тому +2

    Blocked me again

  • @hamsterlife6509
    @hamsterlife6509 Місяць тому +1

    No middle class in Venezuela? He is ignoring the 20th century.

    • @victorywillcome
      @victorywillcome Місяць тому +2

      You would need some 50 IQ points more to understand...

    • @crthompson5930
      @crthompson5930 Місяць тому

      Homie my wife is Venezuelan she can school you on what socialism and communism truly is​@@victorywillcome

    • @IronsideLJW
      @IronsideLJW Місяць тому +1

      When he said no middle class he referred specifically to Russia and China pre revolution and he’s right

    • @victorywillcome
      @victorywillcome Місяць тому +1

      ​@crthompson5930 my father is Venezuelan so?

    • @crthompson5930
      @crthompson5930 Місяць тому

      @@victorywillcome so does he live there under Maduro right now? It sucked there pretty bad under Chavez and if you you're not full of B's you know how bad it was homie

  • @younggeezer8232
    @younggeezer8232 Місяць тому +23

    Maga communist?? WTF? Oxymoron

    • @matyascorvinus918
      @matyascorvinus918 Місяць тому +14

      ''Oxymoron''🤓👆

    • @guidemeChrist
      @guidemeChrist Місяць тому +1

      MAGA is a working class movement so not really

    • @redrockexecutive
      @redrockexecutive Місяць тому +16

      Contradictions exist to be reconciled

    • @theblackpack
      @theblackpack Місяць тому +9

      Is it? Why shouldn't we have sovereign control over our natural resources? Why shouldn't we make fixing infrastructure a priority? If you have a better idea on how to Make America Great Again that isn't communism please share it.

    • @victorywillcome
      @victorywillcome Місяць тому +1

      No! 100% compatible.
      MAGA is the working class... Communism is the working class!
      MAGA Communism is precisely communism applied to the US conditions.

  • @Mr_Giggles
    @Mr_Giggles Місяць тому

    All though I do believe they have a revolutionary spirit as that is at the core of America culture (the ocean loves the taste of tea). I don't believe they are even remotely close to communism if anything they will want to bring America back to what it really is and that is a constitutional republic.

    • @lenranomalouseffects
      @lenranomalouseffects Місяць тому +3

      The establishing of a republic is the first thing Communists have done. Read 1936 Soviet Union constitution. Rights to religion, guns, property, etc. Where are your rights now? Stalin's last speech from 1952 exposes what you're saying as false. You have no freedom in capitalism.

    • @dougspanky
      @dougspanky Місяць тому +7

      Communism always takes on the features of its host nation. American communism will be based around the constitution, free speech and guns.

    • @comment3711
      @comment3711 Місяць тому

      @@dougspanky Right. I’ve got some wooden nickels for sale if you’re interested…

  • @pwillis1589.
    @pwillis1589. Місяць тому +11

    That's hilarious. Taqiyya.

  • @authorcharlieboring
    @authorcharlieboring Місяць тому +6

    Not buying it. Free choice is the strongest factor in a free market. There is little free choice in China.

    • @frantz8824
      @frantz8824 Місяць тому +23

      Free choice between Walmart and Target 😂
      Let’s not forget the anti-trust violations during the GameStop crash

    • @hmt4173
      @hmt4173 Місяць тому +14

      What choice do you have in america?

    • @comment3711
      @comment3711 Місяць тому +1

      Agreed. Anyone championing China still has a lot to learn in life.

    • @bordigalover4067
      @bordigalover4067 Місяць тому +6

      @@comment3711 Have you been to China? The Chinese people love their patriotic government.

    • @comment3711
      @comment3711 Місяць тому

      @@bordigalover4067 Did you block my comment about what happened there in 2020 and 2021?

  • @comment3711
    @comment3711 Місяць тому +2

    The comments are giving a very cult like vibe. And while we may agree on some things a bunch of 20 somethings claiming to have all the answers (or that this young man has all the answers) is quite scary to me.

    • @bordigalover4067
      @bordigalover4067 Місяць тому +11

      We don't have all the answers. That's why we're reaching out to MAGA: to learn from the people. We think Communism can explain the key to defeating the elites. We have passion, but they also called MAGA a cult for having patriotic passion.

    • @comment3711
      @comment3711 Місяць тому +1

      @@bordigalover4067 You will replace the current elites with even worse elites. That is what always happens. That is a fact you can confirm for yourself just by listening to people who already lived through it.
      Besides that, what about the people who don’t want this, what happens to them?

    • @bordigalover4067
      @bordigalover4067 Місяць тому

      @@comment3711 But can we live under our current elites any longer? I'm not asking you to trust our political movement immediately, but eventually the Americans will have to take back our government and replace them.
      As Haz and Jake said, the people who oppose us are the leftist baristas who hate the working class. They are not our friends.

    • @lucasbonhommevazquez
      @lucasbonhommevazquez Місяць тому +9

      @@comment3711 Where do you get this from?

    • @duke01261
      @duke01261 Місяць тому

      @@comment3711 you have been lied to about communism all your life.

  • @algorithmicalychallenged.291
    @algorithmicalychallenged.291 Місяць тому +4

    That's so ridiculous.

  • @Faddidaddi
    @Faddidaddi Місяць тому +1

    FFS

  • @thebaneking4787
    @thebaneking4787 Місяць тому +1

    There’s no such thing as a MAGA Communist. I don’t like the description. MAGA people are Americans that want things to go back prepanda 🐻‍❄️.

    • @dougspanky
      @dougspanky Місяць тому +1

      It's an intentionally provocative term. MAGA communism isn't an ideology, it's an attention grabbing slogan.
      It's just pointing out that the best hope for communism in America is the populist working class MAGA base.

    • @lysenkotheory3400
      @lysenkotheory3400 Місяць тому +8

      Start being open minded.

    • @bordigalover4067
      @bordigalover4067 Місяць тому +1

      We're both against the 💉. Making America great again means we need to take back control over our economy

  • @rickmaldonado6786
    @rickmaldonado6786 Місяць тому +10

    No no it's not maga

    • @bordigalover4067
      @bordigalover4067 Місяць тому +8

      Both MAGA and Communists have something to teach other. Let's learn from each other, because we're on the same side against the elites

  • @P12ooF
    @P12ooF Місяць тому

    "They arent controlled by billionaire. Shit, the government will shoot you"
    This guys name must be oxymoron...

  • @johnl5316
    @johnl5316 Місяць тому +6

    "How society SHOULD be"? That was SO stupid.

  • @brettpearson9979
    @brettpearson9979 Місяць тому

    Shite house. Tuned out within 39 secs.

  • @kennethmeeker6369
    @kennethmeeker6369 Місяць тому +1

    Ridiculous

  • @TheCristianalvarez
    @TheCristianalvarez Місяць тому +3

    Weird worldview tbh. Atleast he's kinda funny

  • @Gary-kg4ok
    @Gary-kg4ok Місяць тому +5

    I’ll never be a communist

    • @lysenkotheory3400
      @lysenkotheory3400 Місяць тому +1

      Noone asked you to be.

    • @Nuruddunya
      @Nuruddunya Місяць тому +2

      all the cool kids are becoming communist

    • @duke01261
      @duke01261 Місяць тому +3

      You are, you just don't know yet.

  • @jaredtaylor326
    @jaredtaylor326 Місяць тому +3

    This dude is a total joke

  • @PuyochaGaming
    @PuyochaGaming Місяць тому +2

    This video earned my unsub.
    Living under China's Hong Kong, yea no. This guy knows nothing about China.

    • @heromat3400
      @heromat3400 Місяць тому +12

      hong kong is another political system

    • @dougspanky
      @dougspanky Місяць тому +1

      Bye bye anime profile!
      Just admit you love British Imperialism and you're a traitor to foreign colonial invaders.

    • @lysenkotheory3400
      @lysenkotheory3400 Місяць тому +1

      Truth is noone cares about you

    • @PuyochaGaming
      @PuyochaGaming Місяць тому

      @@heromat3400not anymore

    • @IronsideLJW
      @IronsideLJW Місяць тому +4

      What specifically about living under China’s Hong Kong was so bad? And are you comparing it to HK before ‘97 where you also lived under Britains Hong Kong?

  • @odious5317
    @odious5317 Місяць тому +2

    This guy is naive.

    • @amiriothegreat
      @amiriothegreat Місяць тому +17

      Actually, he's well read.

    • @odious5317
      @odious5317 Місяць тому +1

      @@amiriothegreat That doesn’t remove his naïveté. One can be well read, and still naïve.

    • @AndrewsMobs
      @AndrewsMobs Місяць тому

      @@odious5317 You should see his strategies, he isn't naive at all.

  • @captdread2013
    @captdread2013 Місяць тому +25

    No. MAGA and commies, chalk and cheese. Just NO!

    • @dougspanky
      @dougspanky Місяць тому +1

      Actually if you look at the communist parties across the world in China and Russia, they have way more in common with MAGA than they do liberal Democrats.

    • @lysenkotheory3400
      @lysenkotheory3400 Місяць тому +1

      If you actually looked into it and start being open minded you would realize these two go together. Maga is a working class movmement and the communists seek to put the working class to power.

    • @duke01261
      @duke01261 Місяць тому

      MAGA wants the means of production - land, energy, banks etc - to serve working people, not globalist bankers. This is communism.