One thing I always liked about this scene is that you rarely see Shockwave emote to any capacity. Even though mono-eye transformers don't have a face, they always have SOME way of expressing themselves like an eyelid or readjusting the lens to indicate a squint. But here, Shockwave realizes pretty quickly that his analytical mindset, no matter what contingencies he had to save his hide, was getting him killed. And so for the first time since he underwent Shadowplay, he looks genuinely terrified because he let his confidence override his sense of reason telling him that when the guy who can make your soul self-destruct calls you up for a chat, you really shouldn't pick up the phone.
So, to summarize: 1) Shockwave survived 2) All the slackers and untrustworthy Decepticons neatly disposed of themselves 3) Shockwave now has a better crew of Decepticons to replace the others. In hindsight, it all seems so obvious, and Scorponok was just shy of realizing something was wrong.
I think they're beyond *anyone's* understanding tbh. even Shockwave himself. everything the guy does seems to motivated only by curiosity and/or a "why not" attitude.
There's a good chance he could've killed the DJD assuming he was on a warship and not a escape pod to go with the other warship he he had that he would've have definitely attacked
It was meant to throw people off, thinking it was primes old war friend Roller, but it turned out to be a different cybertronian who could make things go haywire with his voice
And that’s the reason you don’t look so psychopath lead your troops. They tend to be very pragmatic and let their goals over take the primary directive. 😂
When you acknowledge who Shockwave and Tarn were in the past and their relations to each other before becoming Decepticons…you kind of feel bad for what they’ve become, even if they don’t Also, phenomenal work
Making Scorponok sound like his Energon counterpart is pretty appropriate. Especially since other options... wouldn't work. G1 is too nasally, BW is a idiotic brute and 07 is a beast.
Amazing voice work as always, and pretty insightful to see that after Shockwave left G9, he was almost taken down by the DJD. Pretty interesting story telling by James.
Young Peshi When he fought the Dinobots it was under Simon Furman. Which was based on the Marvel where Shockwave chooses he follow logic. It was years later with Roberts and Barber where he was had a lobotomy. So he couldn’t feel any emotion this was the major plot point in Dark Cybertron in trying to stop him. It was only because of the rather complicated time travel where they brought the old memories back. Even then when he came back as Onyx it was because of his brief awakening of his old selves, he’s no longer logical.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 If it was just him studdering I could believe it as just him realizing something was wrong, thus in character moment. The speech bubble used for when he "What are you doing?" is one typically used to show the person talking is scared, unless it's used as the standard way to show how unique the character speaking is suppose to sound like.
There's speculation that Tarn was one of Megatron's Phase-Sixers (re: Decepticon super-soldier/living engine of death, destruction, and pain), but that has not been confirmed. The three known Phase-Sixers were Sixshot, Overlord, and Black Shadow (who found himself on the DJD's infamous list).
The one thing I did notice is that tarn has one foot propped up, and the only other time I have seen someone sit like that was megatron in chaos theory.
@@SamaritanPrime In reality, Tarn's at the same power level of the Phase-Sixers - he's not a phase-sixer himself, but he sure can throw down with them if needed.
If they didn't pass away, good voices for Tarn: Alan Rickman David Warner Sir Christopher Lee Sir Sean Connery Christopher Plummer Voices still living: Sir Anthony Hopkins Pierce Brosnan, especially his older voice from after his Bond days, he's let more of his Irish accent come out in his older age Idris Elba Sir Patrick Stewart
@@BasedVegeta Unrelated, but here's a little customization tip I picked up from TFW2005: take TR Overboard, remove his head & legs, pop off TLK Barricade's buggy eyed noggin & then plop Overboard's smirking face onto his tiny neck ball joint. Instant Generations Barricade! Yeah. Got tired of waiting for the Siege version so I made my own CHUG Barri. Overboard's dark blue matches the TLK fig so the two definitely mesh well together. Feel free to try it out for yourself! :)
Do I detect some subtle Keith David influences in Tarn’s voice? Guess it’s only fitting, given that’s the voice one of the writer’s had in mind for him.
Tarn and the D.J.D are scary because they usually pick small fishes to fry, they couldn't fry Shockwave here, he's arranged every step of this interaction, and Primus help the D.J.D if they would ever fall into the hands of Satan i mean Shockwave
I know it would be very unlikely, but I wonder what would happen if tarn went against soundwave? I ask this cause I feel like this encounter would show some of tarns weakness’s if my assumption is correct on how his “deadly voice” and insta kill touch powers work and that’s its just very high energon frequency’s that vibrate so violently it paralyzes the target to astonishing levels. However, soundwave could potentially easily block that with his own waves of vibrations.
Love the voice work. Shockwave's voice was very close to the original. But I don't picture Scorponok's voice to sound like that, I picture it sounding a little bit more sinister/scheming-ish.
Shadowplay has nothing to do with empurata. Shockwave received his empurata after his shadowplay purely out of spite (thanks, Proteus. You created a monster.)
Answer me this.... There were about 23 Decpeticon's shown or mentioned in this five minute story, yet only 3 (Shockwave, Scorponok and Flywheels) have updated figures of them that are out or pending in a Generations line. So why not the other 20?? I'm not sure but 1 or 2 might be Terrocon's but what about The DJD (five), Bludgeon, Howlback and Flame? I know that WFC Kingdom will be split between a BW and G1 characters (G1's portion being more OP's and Megatrons). It's just sad that there's so many other G1 bots that HasTak fails to give notice to. Hell, more than a 3rd of Earthrise and those Netflix exclusives are the same characters from last year with slight modifications to have Earth alt-modes.
it'd be an awesome fight, but Bludgeon is superstitious, and if Tarn's ability to weaponize conversation can be brought to bear, or if it reminds him of something, its an immediate Tarn win. Them using Nuke instead of just nucleon would probably give Tarn the win regardless. Bludgeon'd love to learn that secret though
I don't see Megatron signing off on Shockwave's death. He didn't even let the DJD kill Starscream of all people. Definitely isn't going let them kill one of two Decepticons he actually trusts, Soundwave being the other.
Kinda bullshit how Shockwave got out of that. Like, why wouldn't Tarn paralyse his canon arm or something? It's not like Shockwave did anything particularly clever or anything here. Obviously he wouldn't die at this point in the timeline but it still seems dumb.
Great voice work, as usual. I can't stand this scene though. Shockwave shouldn't be jobbing to Kylo Tarn. If anything, this should have been a moment where Shockwave reveals that Tarn's power DOESN'T work on him. He did train the guy and should know exactly what he's capable of.
@@VernorsDoctor Doesn't mean a thing in regards to what I was saying. Shockwave TAUGHT Tarn how to use that outlier ability and fully knew what he was capable of. Shockwave willingly went rogue knowing that Megatron could send Tarn's gang after him. You cannot tell me that Shockwave, the Master Planner, didn't have a countermeasure prepared for that. Or wasn't already immune to Tarn's ability. Tarn is a poser (which was the entire point of his character arc.) Shockwave's the real deal (Which is ironic, considering he spent 14 million years posing as someone else...)
Hi-Priest Shockwave definitely had his way in this scene though. If he was truly affected by Tarn’s power and got paralyzed, he wouldn’t be able to destroy the phone. And then of course, Shockwave already had prepared backup in the end.
THAT'S NOT SHOCKWAVES VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This was ridiculous, Showckwave would've been well aware of Tarns Word Salad, and would have built something to block his talk to death tactic/ fake the whole thing that he can't move ect...Then go primial on Tarn...I see why Hasbro kicked IDW to the curb
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Scary how Tarn can kill you... Without EVER entering the room himself, just through voice.
Shockwave: "...Oh right. Lethal voicebox."
One thing I always liked about this scene is that you rarely see Shockwave emote to any capacity. Even though mono-eye transformers don't have a face, they always have SOME way of expressing themselves like an eyelid or readjusting the lens to indicate a squint.
But here, Shockwave realizes pretty quickly that his analytical mindset, no matter what contingencies he had to save his hide, was getting him killed. And so for the first time since he underwent Shadowplay, he looks genuinely terrified because he let his confidence override his sense of reason telling him that when the guy who can make your soul self-destruct calls you up for a chat, you really shouldn't pick up the phone.
That's what i thought when i saw that panel
So, to summarize:
1) Shockwave survived
2) All the slackers and untrustworthy Decepticons neatly disposed of themselves
3) Shockwave now has a better crew of Decepticons to replace the others.
In hindsight, it all seems so obvious, and Scorponok was just shy of realizing something was wrong.
So that crafty camera face purposefully sent away his good crew to use the lousy ones as cannon fodder because he knew the D.J.D. were coming. Genius.
Shockwave is so logical tarn vs shockwave with orb is so easy for shockwave
tbh, if he knew how it was, he knew the chances of Shockwave surviving should have been high.
Shockwave: *my goals are beyond your understanding*
Yes
Litteraly
I think shockwave's goals were beyond his own understanding
I think they're beyond *anyone's* understanding tbh. even Shockwave himself. everything the guy does seems to motivated only by curiosity and/or a "why not" attitude.
@@something_wrong5014 that is logical for his character
I definitely enjoyed how Shockwave orchestrated almost every detail of this encounter.
And orchestrated almost everything in the IDWverse even to the point of it being ridiculous
That’s Shockwave for you
There's a good chance he could've killed the DJD assuming he was on a warship and not a escape pod to go with the other warship he he had that he would've have definitely attacked
_Nearly_ everything. Had Tarn paralyzed his gun arm he'd have died for sure.
So THAT's what Tarn's face looks like.
looks like senator shockwave before empurata
It was meant to throw people off, thinking it was primes old war friend Roller, but it turned out to be a different cybertronian who could make things go haywire with his voice
Ruben Assassin Rose at the time it was touch the voice ability didn’t manifest till much later
OMG HES CUTE!!!!!!😄😄😄😄😄
@@tarn6800 true, it wasn't until he joined the decepticons that it went from touch to voice
Tarn playing with his food wound up leading to Cybertron being destroyed.
Sounds about right.
And that’s the reason you don’t look so psychopath lead your troops. They tend to be very pragmatic and let their goals over take the primary directive. 😂
When you acknowledge who Shockwave and Tarn were in the past and their relations to each other before becoming Decepticons…you kind of feel bad for what they’ve become, even if they don’t
Also, phenomenal work
It really does. Master and student, in a way.
Damn that was poetic.
@@skrilllfury2120 hi dude how are you
@@lilpotatozrcool1142 hi dude how are you
2:52 Shockwave's more offended at the inefficiency than at the fact that the DJD wants to kill him
He is a master to logic above all, so of course being illogical would tick him off
Shock wave:*spins in chair* I have been expecting you
Making Scorponok sound like his Energon counterpart is pretty appropriate.
Especially since other options... wouldn't work.
G1 is too nasally, BW is a idiotic brute and 07 is a beast.
I would just consider BW Scorponok to be a different character from other interpretations with the same name.
@@concept5631 Well he IS a different character with the same name. :P
@@fishpop Got me there
@@concept5631 :P
07 Scorponox is like Ravage when it comes to speaking
Amazing voice work as always, and pretty insightful to see that after Shockwave left G9, he was almost taken down by the DJD. Pretty interesting story telling by James.
Pokey Pokster It loses points in my book given how Shockwave was shown to be scared. Something he shouldn’t given he was lobotomized in IDW.
So? He admitted to anger while fighting the Dinobots and other standouts which prove some lingering emotion.
Young Peshi When he fought the Dinobots it was under Simon Furman. Which was based on the Marvel where Shockwave chooses he follow logic. It was years later with Roberts and Barber where he was had a lobotomy.
So he couldn’t feel any emotion this was the major plot point in Dark Cybertron in trying to stop him. It was only because of the rather complicated time travel where they brought the old memories back. Even then when he came back as Onyx it was because of his brief awakening of his old selves, he’s no longer logical.
Oracledk shockwave was studdering, but you could blame that on tarn slowly affecting his spark I think
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 If it was just him studdering I could believe it as just him realizing something was wrong, thus in character moment. The speech bubble used for when he "What are you doing?" is one typically used to show the person talking is scared, unless it's used as the standard way to show how unique the character speaking is suppose to sound like.
Tarn’s mask-less mannerisms reminded me so much of Overlord’s in a sense, especially those closeups on his face/lips
Utterly fantastic job btw
There's speculation that Tarn was one of Megatron's Phase-Sixers (re: Decepticon super-soldier/living engine of death, destruction, and pain), but that has not been confirmed. The three known Phase-Sixers were Sixshot, Overlord, and Black Shadow (who found himself on the DJD's infamous list).
The one thing I did notice is that tarn has one foot propped up, and the only other time I have seen someone sit like that was megatron in chaos theory.
@@SamaritanPrime I feel like he’d be Phase Sixer material.
@@SamaritanPrime In reality, Tarn's at the same power level of the Phase-Sixers - he's not a phase-sixer himself, but he sure can throw down with them if needed.
@@chriswu772 I believe Megatron Will make Tarn as Powerfull as one if some of them Rebel to him, like Overlord did
My voice can kill remember:
*the people with headphones are already dead*
I love how you nailed Shockwaves voice! Nothing makes me happier!
I love Tarn's power to kill with his voice, once he even straight up exploded some guy.
Finally! I've got a voice for Flywheels!
You do Shockwave's voice really great! It's like the G1 cartoon but better.
I also love Tarn's voice in this.
If they didn't pass away, good voices for Tarn:
Alan Rickman
David Warner
Sir Christopher Lee
Sir Sean Connery
Christopher Plummer
Voices still living:
Sir Anthony Hopkins
Pierce Brosnan,
especially his older voice from after his Bond days, he's let more of his Irish accent come out in his older age
Idris Elba
Sir Patrick Stewart
This would have been terrifying if it wasnt for the upbeat happy music.
Excellent Corey Burton impression. :)
@@BasedVegeta Unrelated, but here's a little customization tip I picked up from TFW2005: take TR Overboard, remove his head & legs, pop off TLK Barricade's buggy eyed noggin & then plop Overboard's smirking face onto his tiny neck ball joint. Instant Generations Barricade! Yeah. Got tired of waiting for the Siege version so I made my own CHUG Barri. Overboard's dark blue matches the TLK fig so the two definitely mesh well together. Feel free to try it out for yourself! :)
I imagined Kaons voice to be a bit higher than Tarns, not deeper. Still, awesome voices!
Shockwave: *GETS UNCOMFORTABLE FROM TARN’S WORDS*
still a better face reveal than Dream
Lmao
Why are the djd so goddamned charismatic and lovable?!
Do I detect some subtle Keith David influences in Tarn’s voice? Guess it’s only fitting, given that’s the voice one of the writer’s had in mind for him.
Tarn and the D.J.D are scary because they usually pick small fishes to fry, they couldn't fry Shockwave here, he's arranged every step of this interaction, and Primus help the D.J.D if they would ever fall into the hands of Satan i mean Shockwave
RIP flywheels
Wow, that was very well voiced.
Well I am flattered ,flattered indeed.
I know it would be very unlikely, but I wonder what would happen if tarn went against soundwave? I ask this cause I feel like this encounter would show some of tarns weakness’s if my assumption is correct on how his “deadly voice” and insta kill touch powers work and that’s its just very high energon frequency’s that vibrate so violently it paralyzes the target to astonishing levels. However, soundwave could potentially easily block that with his own waves of vibrations.
Your voice is awesome as all the Autobots and Decepticons thank you for the video but your voice is awesome as The D.J.D leader.
Love the voice work. Shockwave's voice was very close to the original. But I don't picture Scorponok's voice to sound like that, I picture it sounding a little bit more sinister/scheming-ish.
He knew he picked the underwhelming ones....he intended that conversation from the get go..
By far, the best and most fitting shockwave voice I've heard.
PLEASE MAKE MORE!! whenever you can (:
This was awesome :D Your voice-acting is at the top!
Tarns voice sends an uncomfortable shiver cuz he's terrifying enough.
Loved this scene
Always thought it was weird that Tarn got a new face post-empurata and Shockwave didn't.
Well Tarn wasn't shadowplayed like shockwave
@@lancebot8224 in fact on one in transformers idw has ever been shadowplayed only shockwave have
Many Transformers were shadowplayed. Shockwave was just one of the most extreme examples.
Shadowplay has nothing to do with empurata. Shockwave received his empurata after his shadowplay purely out of spite (thanks, Proteus. You created a monster.)
@@satinsguard yeah I have to agree
Thank you for the great dub.
Kaon's voice!!! I love this video so much
I know. it's _awesome_
Tarn: I CLAIM MYSELF AS THE NEW LEADER OF THE DECEPTICONS NOW *blows up the other decepticons and only needs his crew the d.j.d*
the jew leader .?
@@crashoutt-mahone lol dam autocorrect, I just fixed it
@@dankoptimusprime173 😂😂😂
Tarn lookin kinda cute tho ngl
Notice how Shockwave’s eye gets smaller and fainter as his conversation with Tarn goes on. *What does that tell you?*
You always have the best voices
Damn,Tarn threat calmly to Shockwave
Which issue was this?
The Lost Light, Issue 14. Hope that helped.
Everyone talking about Tarn and Shockwave, how about Bludgeon scaring off the DJD just by showing up?
Answer me this.... There were about 23 Decpeticon's shown or mentioned in this five minute story, yet only 3 (Shockwave, Scorponok and Flywheels) have updated figures of them that are out or pending in a Generations line. So why not the other 20?? I'm not sure but 1 or 2 might be Terrocon's but what about The DJD (five), Bludgeon, Howlback and Flame? I know that WFC Kingdom will be split between a BW and G1 characters (G1's portion being more OP's and Megatrons). It's just sad that there's so many other G1 bots that HasTak fails to give notice to. Hell, more than a 3rd of Earthrise and those Netflix exclusives are the same characters from last year with slight modifications to have Earth alt-modes.
Even Tarn knows not to fuck with bludgeon
it'd be an awesome fight, but Bludgeon is superstitious, and if Tarn's ability to weaponize conversation can be brought to bear, or if it reminds him of something, its an immediate Tarn win. Them using Nuke instead of just nucleon would probably give Tarn the win regardless. Bludgeon'd love to learn that secret though
Tarn is very handsome, even with that huge scar on his face ;)
I really love Tarn's voice 0v0
(What is the name of the background song?)
Tarn's voice here is sooooo goood!!
Okay, show of hands .. who would like to stay with Overlord versus going with Shockwave? XD
That was .... EXCELLENT !
I thought scorpinoks would be allot bigger
Love ur voices except Kaon's. Imagined john mcdaggio's joker
I imagined Heath Ledger’s 😂
Which comic is this
The Lost Light, Issue 14. Hope that helped.
It’s not like shockwave to betray is own associates unless we’re talking about marvel comics.
Outstanding work. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
*HIT LIST*
What's the name of the transformer at 4:23?
The One in the Middle is Bludgeon.
@MrWaSpY-Trn nice! I just looked up some vids on him. He's pretty badass. It's too bad he never made it on the TV screen.
Well done!
I don't see Megatron signing off on Shockwave's death. He didn't even let the DJD kill Starscream of all people. Definitely isn't going let them kill one of two Decepticons he actually trusts, Soundwave being the other.
Cool movie video
Phone get destroyed mid call i saw this somewhere before but i don't remember
Which comic was this from?
Transformers lost light
@@dvdWATER6308 Issue 14
What do you call a Transformer that turns into a stroller?
Optimus Pram.
That outcome is logical
You should do a dub on Transformers Spotlight Orion Pax.
Can we get more???
Kinda bullshit how Shockwave got out of that. Like, why wouldn't Tarn paralyse his canon arm or something? It's not like Shockwave did anything particularly clever or anything here. Obviously he wouldn't die at this point in the timeline but it still seems dumb.
marah bodoh dewa transformers
@@mahdimahdi5303 ?
Can he control which limbs get paralyzed - *over the phone?*
Which comic did this come from?
How did they survive
What did Shockwave do to get on the DJD's hit list?
Is there more to this comic?
Why is Tarn soo sexy? ❤️😍 And his voice is totally amazing good job😍😍
Great voice for him, but his face is all damaged.
music?
Great voice work, as usual. I can't stand this scene though. Shockwave shouldn't be jobbing to Kylo Tarn. If anything, this should have been a moment where Shockwave reveals that Tarn's power DOESN'T work on him. He did train the guy and should know exactly what he's capable of.
Not even fully jobbing, he may have feigned paralysis (I haven't read the full thing so...) And used that blast to signal his reinforcements.
Tarn is a phase sixer. Shockwave isn't.
@@VernorsDoctor Doesn't mean a thing in regards to what I was saying. Shockwave TAUGHT Tarn how to use that outlier ability and fully knew what he was capable of. Shockwave willingly went rogue knowing that Megatron could send Tarn's gang after him. You cannot tell me that Shockwave, the Master Planner, didn't have a countermeasure prepared for that. Or wasn't already immune to Tarn's ability.
Tarn is a poser (which was the entire point of his character arc.) Shockwave's the real deal (Which is ironic, considering he spent 14 million years posing as someone else...)
Hi-Priest Shockwave definitely had his way in this scene though. If he was truly affected by Tarn’s power and got paralyzed, he wouldn’t be able to destroy the phone. And then of course, Shockwave already had prepared backup in the end.
Let me define shockwave
There is satan then there is shockwave
was this before or after his identity was revealed ?
TheXDatabase Chronologically, it takes place before, but this was shown after.
Loved most of Robert's work but the DJD was a little ridiculous at times. Stupidly overpowered like Captain Marvel in the MCU . . .
Captain Marvel wasn't even that powerful and if anything Shockwave was more OP in IDW
イケボ❗️
This was from the previous IDW universe, right? Didn’t Flywheels get killed by Tesarus early on in MTMTE?
This was before that this takes place right after shockwave leaves Garrus 9 in last stand of the wreckers
Why do I think tarn is just suuuch a bada$$
Interesting how they can take concepts as cool as The Transformers and the D.J.D and make it this dull
THAT'S NOT SHOCKWAVES VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So many exclamation points. Illogical - Shockwave, possibly.
Kaon voice sucks, and he was my favorite 😞
Shockwave would’ve beat them all
🤣
I know very little of the DJD.
Why does Tarn want Shockwave dead?
I don't think it was specified probably because of his regenesis experiments
This was ridiculous, Showckwave would've been well aware of Tarns Word Salad, and would have built something to block his talk to death tactic/ fake the whole thing that he can't move ect...Then go primial on Tarn...I see why Hasbro kicked IDW to the curb
Do you have discord?
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