STUDYING Jayce & Victor's RELATIONSHIP after watching ARCANE || Necrit LORE REACTION

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  • @ArminaticsVoiceArtist
    @ArminaticsVoiceArtist Місяць тому +10

    In my opinion the new Viktor isnt Viktor. Its a new champ. He killed The maschine Herald

  • @OverworkedITGuy
    @OverworkedITGuy Місяць тому +9

    Keep in mind, this backstory was made originally before some of the tweaks were made when they tightened up the lore and were prepping for Arcane. Back when this was first written, it was just Hextech and Chemtech. Shimmer wasn't a thing until they again started writing for Arcane.
    The thing about Jayce. He's not so much a complete jerk. Something a lot of folks overlook is how young a lot of the main characters are in Arcane. Jayce was young even by the usual standards of Piltover. And because of that he had no patience for the usual politicking of the other apprentices and professors at the Academy. So it was a combination of his refusal to "play the politics and bureaucracy" game plus actual jealousy from the teachers and professors who weren't as smart or creative as he was while also being younger than they were.
    So you can see, there are a lot of small changes that were made to better interconnect the characters, expand the narrative and properly flesh out a real 3-dimensional backstory for both Jayce and Viktor that fit properly into the larger worldbuilding needed for Arcane, future animated projects and the MMO.

    • @Junweitrustnobody1403
      @Junweitrustnobody1403 Місяць тому +2

      yeah, Shimmer wasn't a thing in League. Most people in Zaun used Chemtech

  • @greenin5537
    @greenin5537 Місяць тому +2

    46:30 you didn't pay attention to that part of the story, you got distracted with Viktor model using his third arm lmao. Go read that part of the story again and you will realize he was saving those people from the slumps incident.

    • @astravisionstudios
      @astravisionstudios  Місяць тому

      @@greenin5537 ...But did you watch the whole video? We rewinded right after that lol

    • @greenin5537
      @greenin5537 Місяць тому

      @astravisionstudios yeah but even after the rewind it seemed you thought Viktor provoked that and also drugged them to kidnap them. Maybe reading it again on the page? They became enraged beasts from the chem spill in that incident that had nothing to do with Viktor. Viktor wanted to help them but because they were enraged he had to tranquilize them. The part about him opening their skull was because he was trying to drain them from the chemicals of that accident. But he was limited by the technology he had at the moment

    • @greenin5537
      @greenin5537 Місяць тому

      @@astravisionstudios yeah but even after the rewind it seemed that you still thought Viktor provoked the accident which was the cause of those people being enraged with chemicals and dying, and that Viktor drugged them to kidnap them.
      Viktor heard about the accident, went to help, the victims were enraged due to the chemicals, so he couldn't treat them without sedating them, then the part of him opening their skulls is to drain them from the toxins, but his technology was limited at the time. Maybe try reading the bio on the webpage more calmly without distractions? you will see that League viktor, unlike the arcane version, would never force the augments on others he only helped those who came to him, and unlike arcane, he just gave them techmaturgy augments, like enhanced limbs or breathers, he didn't possesed them in any way lmao. And he didn't even wanted that "cult" that was forming around him. He was helping the victims of the disaster, like he did along blitzcrank on that other disaster, and Jayce just came there smashed everything, let the victims die and returned to piltover as a hero lmao

    • @LucreciaC_SolarysCristal1621
      @LucreciaC_SolarysCristal1621 17 днів тому

      ​@@astravisionstudios And yet you did not understand anything.

    • @astravisionstudios
      @astravisionstudios  17 днів тому

      @@LucreciaC_SolarysCristal1621 Since your the second person to comment on this topic it must be important so i will go back to the wiki page and reread because maybe i missed something on my part. Im not opposed to hearing other view points 👌🏾

  • @SadSinStory
    @SadSinStory Місяць тому +17

    what you said about how sometimes when the media changes, the source material might need to adapt or change aswell. I wish more people would understand that part. People complained about the season being too rushed, but also wanted to see how Viktor invented Blitzcrank inviting a new storyline. While i like this story. Objectively the version in Arcane is more compelling and frankly straight up more interesting. While also concealing the bigger plots for those who were not familiar with Viktor's character.

    • @astravisionstudios
      @astravisionstudios  Місяць тому +4

      @@SadSinStory Yeah exactly! I mean, I would have loved to see Blitzcrank, would have loved to see Urgot, and would have loved to see Camille, but at the same time.
      We couldn't have gotten more without having less for other characters and damaging pacing or story more then people already claim it is. I think another part of it is that people are used to getting so much content that in reality, a lot of these things are still going to come and probably at a better time if people are just patient for the rest of their projects. But patience id hard and I understand it's hard in the moment when you're emotions are high. I mean i was definately initially worked up the final episode until i calmed down after an hour 😂 But thats good storytelling tho! Haha

    • @Junweitrustnobody1403
      @Junweitrustnobody1403 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@astravisionstudiosyeah i agree, they need to lay out progress of each characters and how they will do in events that has happen

  • @hisoyami
    @hisoyami Місяць тому +3

    Love your lore videos cant wait for more necrit and maybe voice line interactions

  • @TylPhumin
    @TylPhumin Місяць тому +2

    44:36 Poor Ezreal, gets left out just he is out romancing lux and doesn't get affected by Arcane x:
    (funfact, Ezreal is actually the male with the most skin, usually head an head with the top 2 females being Lux and Miss Fortune~, but he barley ever gets any spotlight xd)

  • @greenin5537
    @greenin5537 Місяць тому +3

    the lore got a little messed up, because at the finale we see the third eyed swain which indicates he already has Raum and the first invasion has finished, but Singed is supposed to participate in that war, so now the timeline got twisted a bit

    • @Haxx07th
      @Haxx07th Місяць тому

      That could just be Raum before the invasion, doesn't necessarily mean it's Swain

  • @Jaemy_art
    @Jaemy_art Місяць тому +2

    Always throws me off when necrit says "suit" on his older lore videos XD

  • @jaimeruiz7837
    @jaimeruiz7837 Місяць тому +12

    Jayce did nothing wrong

    • @ghostface490
      @ghostface490 Місяць тому +8

      Technically, Jayce's only wrong doing was making Hex Tech to begin with. Arcane is basically a Grandfather-Paradox if you think about it long enough.

    • @Junweitrustnobody1403
      @Junweitrustnobody1403 Місяць тому

      ​@@ghostface490 yeah and tbh Piltover is a city for investors, engineer and etc so the thought of able to use magic itself is something that most people would want to find out

    • @Junweitrustnobody1403
      @Junweitrustnobody1403 Місяць тому

      ​@@ghostface490 (my comment got removed the fifith time this week, i didn't type anything against the guideline) well Plitover is a city of progress and people are curious into what they can do with their tech

    • @WinkooVision
      @WinkooVision Місяць тому

      Debatable, he could have tried to Viktor first and shown him him the vision that alternate timeline Viktor gave him instead of shooting him immediately and triggering the events he tried to prevent in Arcane, but I don't agree with the people who blame him for everything.

    • @Junweitrustnobody1403
      @Junweitrustnobody1403 Місяць тому

      @@jaimeruiz7837 how did my comment get deleted for the third time when it's not even against the guideline. Jesus christ man

  • @BurnDem101
    @BurnDem101 Місяць тому +3

    With these lore videos, also keep in mind that you may be spoiling stuff for yourself in future shows. Granted, as a LoL fan myself, I enjoyed Arcane about as much as a person can.

    • @astravisionstudios
      @astravisionstudios  Місяць тому +1

      @@BurnDem101 Yeah we highly considered that a few months ago when we started the journey of watching cinematics and reading the lore. Weve been really careful with pacing, only watching specific world lore vids and then when Arcane was releasing we only did piltover & zaun champions. But now that the show's over , we will probably slow down on champions and get back to music videos, champion cinematics etc. We have a long list of requested vids to catch up on 😅

  • @greenin5537
    @greenin5537 Місяць тому +1

    Stanwick Padidly is the statue we see in season 1 episode 4 opening scene with heimer and jayce.

  • @Junweitrustnobody1403
    @Junweitrustnobody1403 Місяць тому +2

    so what are your thoughts about League Jayce and Viktor compared to their Arcane counterpart?

    • @astravisionstudios
      @astravisionstudios  Місяць тому +2

      I honestly enjoyed both and would like to see this lore version in another one of the timelines lol

    • @Junweitrustnobody1403
      @Junweitrustnobody1403 Місяць тому +1

      @astravisionstudios yeah, i actually didn't know League Jayce and Viktor's stories other than i know that Viktor is a cyborg and Jayce thinks he smarter than other people

  • @theconqueror230
    @theconqueror230 Місяць тому +2

    Guys make sure to react to champion's voice lines and wiki

  • @Jaemy_art
    @Jaemy_art Місяць тому +1

    Damn why is jayce more cool in this than arcane lol

  • @syaqilfitri8883
    @syaqilfitri8883 Місяць тому +1

    Can you react to tbskyen "what come after arcane"

    • @astravisionstudios
      @astravisionstudios  Місяць тому

      I saw that but haven't watched it yet, so we might do that! Could spark some great conversation 🤔

  • @frankbinamira4527
    @frankbinamira4527 Місяць тому +1

    Um wait after arcane? Where's the reaction for 8-9😅

    • @DBT1007
      @DBT1007 Місяць тому

      Obviously both did watch the arcane. That's why they can able to upload this video
      But maybe gonna release it like once a week.. 😒

    • @astravisionstudios
      @astravisionstudios  Місяць тому

      @@frankbinamira4527 We actually recorded this last Thursday before seeing the final episodes but we just knew it wasn't going to come out until sunday because our packed schedule releasing every day.
      Arcane Ep 8 & 9 are being edited still but both releasing in the next 24 hours

    • @TheJerbol
      @TheJerbol Місяць тому

      @@astravisionstudios poor planning my guy, releasing a video that is instantly out of date

    • @astravisionstudios
      @astravisionstudios  Місяць тому +4

      @@TheJerbol How is that? Lol
      I'm not sure how you're looking at it, but when planning it and filming it, if we released 2 days before Act 3 and then people watched this and compared the lore version of them to the show or if people watch this after Act 3 and compare the lore version to the show, because that's the whole purpose of this video.
      All of our lore videos are made with longevity in mind. Arcane is over, but the cinemtaic world of league is still young so a lot of people are going to get introduced through the cinematic world and want to go and find more history on the characters in general the same way alot of us have..
      Atleast that my personal objective with these video 🙂

    • @TheJerbol
      @TheJerbol Місяць тому

      @@astravisionstudios an hour long video on the jayce viktor relationship before act 3, but releases after. It's crazy my guy