thank you for continuing to push wizards to put arena codes in products. As a very limited budget player who does both paper and digital magic, those codes go a long way towards helping people like me to have more fun and better value at the game as a whole. I hope they start to listen soon, because while I do like planeswalker decks, I know they're not for everyone, and more product should come with codes.
Just pointing out the obvious, Arena has much higher profit margin than paper. Therefore there will not be codes since they would lose money on that trade. Big stores open hundreds of these decks for singles and would sell the codes separately undermining their Arena profits.
@@vekeuimonen11 Dude Pokemon TCG includes codes for nearly every products, including codes for promo cards and decks. They're not losing any money. There's an active trading community on the PTCGO where people who buy physical card packs are able to trade their digital packs for specific digital cards. It works out great.
@@bigz4349 Very different market and very different approach. Arena was designed to reach large audiences and to eliminate secondary market. Trading just doesnt fit into it. if you think about how much more money pokemon tcg online would make if they sold all those online products instead of gifting them away you surely see why they dont want to go the same way with mtga. Arena actually get players into magic where as I have never heard anyone getting into pokemon starting with online play (Although I know very few pokemon players anyway and play it completely for the nostalgia)
@@vekeuimonen11 And I'll argue that the PCTGO system is better because of that. Progression is limited to either building your collection through physical card purchases, buying codes from secondary markets or grinding entirely through online. All option that help to bolster a healthy community
@@bigz4349I cant argue against that from player perspective. But just think how little wotc gets from a paper booster and how much they get from digital one, the digital booster brings in more cash with less requirements. They are in it for the money, as long as people buy boosters on arena they arent going to give them away for free (same for other products).
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THANK YOU about the Arena code thing. When I saw RNA Planeswalker decks had arena codes I got excited just because I'd be able to pick one of this year's challengers online.
Just pointing out the obvious, Arena has much higher profit margin than paper. Therefore there will not be codes since they would lose money on that trade. Big stores open hundreds of these decks for singles and would sell the codes separately undermining their Arena profits.
No, it doesn't. There's a huge amount of MTG players that only buy their cards at Walmart and end up only playing kitchen table, or at small FNM's. Now, if you had said the most heard in the Magic community.....
The Professor's comments are always so useful and the suggestions to improve the product in its design, such as chucking in more rares and adding arena codes are both positive for the mtg community and wizards themselves. Prof needs to infiltrate their design team.
Picked up United Assault last night, awesome deck! Got it sleeved up in my deck box this morning, gonna be a good weekend 😊 Thanks for the exquisite review professor 👍
*Agree on the codes !* … as far as the lists go, i might have been in for the Golgari deck (sucker for G/B), but there seem to be some very weird inclusion and omissions in the list that make me not to interested (no Vraska's contempt ? no Carnage Tyrant (not even a bone dragon?), what are those Llanowar Elves doing in there? No Uncommon B/G split card of which the name alludes me atm.). Like i get that this is not the Sultai decklist due to lead-time in design/testing/production, but the list does miss some clear cards (even as one-off) for a competitive Golgari deck :( … (and even for an upgrade to Sultai, which basically just needs some Negates in the side (and a landbase to cast those), it seems far off, sure the Hydroid makes it the truly competitive Sultai version, but the deck was and is strong enough to just be competitive with some Negates to make sure you can get important plays through against control).
@@stickmanphil12345 ok weird, so I've played Golgari on Arena ever since the release (be it without the explore package), and i have tried Llanowar Elves in that deck a couple of times (with a ramp package), but found it mostly under performing, and it's a bad top deck. And sure, the one time you get it on turn 1 and the opp doesn't instantly removes it, it can get you a bit of ramp early game. But seeing how the deck basically has a longer game strategy, i found that early advantage negligible. Now this might be different once Hydriod is added to the equation, but even there, due to the explore you are bound to have tons of lands (and thus mana) and still have that longer game strategy, so i dunno, i would probably cut it for other cards tbh.
@@stickmanphil12345 Now obviously you will ask. what did you play, if not Explore Nor Ramp. 1x Artifact with Spinal art that lets you put stuff in GY and put some back for a sac of it. 4x Reassembling Skeleton 4x w.e. 3/1 elf that dunk stuff in GY. 1x Bone Dragon Also Several cards that need sacrificial costs to be paid. And the Skeleton was basically the engine for that. The strategy was basically to resolve a Bone Dragon, 6/6 Demon that needs a sac, or Tyrant… Or to get the split card board wipe on a creature that wouldn't die to the wipe. So, i ran a sac/gy package instead… The 'core' though, was and is still pretty much the same and yeah, those two cards we all mention are pretty integral to the deck. (and 1 copy would have been enough to include tbh. i just ran one of each and that seemed just fine).
@@stickmanphil12345 Addition to the sac/gy package; i have found that since the release of Allegiance the strategy has started to under perform against certain new decks, and also other decks have adjusted to Golgari as a whole. So still trying to find the right answers to adjust, without having to run what everybody else is running :P
Llanowar Elves are great in Golgari or Sultai Midrange. There's a reason they're included in most deck lists. They're incredible in the opening hand and explore allows you to graveyard them when the come around late game.
Hey Prof, thanks for the constant reminder to support LGS. I was going to buy a box of Keyforge for a fun game weekend at my place with friends and co-workers. Instead I drove down to my LGS and bought a partially full box, but one that had plenty enough decks for the event. Passionate people who love what they do and need our support. Not to mention, ah hell. I'll leave story time for another time. Thanks for always mentioning it. You're doing all of us a huge solid. Players and the LGS we play at.
Im new into MTG and a friend of mine told me to buy the united assault deck. He got Arcane Tempo and - i was just learning mtg - I smashed him three times in a row! This was awesome for my first MTG gaming experience and now im hyped for more. Also thanks for your helpful and informative content brian! Helps me out a lot!
I’m also new! My friend taught me the game then told me to go to Friday night magic with him. I picked up the United assault (cause the store owner said it was the easiest lol) and then my friend demolished me with his custom mono red deck! I cri
Story time!! So when the Challenger decks and this video were released, I was in Basic Combat Training at Ft. Sill. During one of our precious few phone times, I saw a notification from Google saying that they had been released. I quickly looked over the decks (not deck lists tho) and made the hasty decision to order United Assault. Fast forward to today where the Professor is saying that said mono white deck is the best of the four. This.... Does bring a smile to my face
Thanks for another great review. I'm getting back into standard after a bit of an absence, and was looking for an affordable path to return to FNM. These decks were on Massdrop last week and I ordered them; I'm even more excited for them to arrive after watching this video!
I will be picking up an arcane tempo deck from my LGS soon! great video! and you are so right about arena codes. The hardest part about really getting into arena is getting a good deck, and this helps jumpstart new players, and gives remaining players a new way to play on the game, and practice their deck for FNM
Arena brought me back to Magic after a long long time. Very thoughtful of you to point out the lack of codes, it would be a very cool feature. Now, about those decks, i picked the 4-set yesterday, i had it preordered in my LGS. They are awesome. I'm keeping 3 and gifting the golgari to a friend.
Hello Professor! I have just recently gotten back into paper as I played for fun with friends in MS/HS and briefly with a roommate in college. Been playing a lot of arena and went to the war of spark pre-release and DC MF. My LGS has a helluva deal where they offer 30% off challenger decks on Standard Thursdays so I might pick up the Red Aggro as I can add an experimental frenzy, legion war boss with other playable red cards and see where it goes! Thanks for being the MTG Mr Rogers/Stephen Colbert!
I grabbed a set last year, and already got my set this year. I leave them as is, and sleeve for casual games with friends, and it also allows me to play standard with my buddies who do play that format.
My playgroup at my lgs is a semi-competitive edh circle but today we each bought a challenger deck, I got both the white weenies and the golgari midrange decks and my friends and I played with the decks sleeved out of the box and had a blast. The golgari is definitely a little under powered, but it's still fun if it's your playstyle. We're gonna be upgrading them all and play again next week. I adore this product and hope it continues.
Thanks for the great review! I purchased the Lightning Aggro and attended my very first FNM Standard event last night. It's a fun deck to play with while I got the feel for my LGS meta and the Standard format. Amazing I came first and won myself an Augur of Bolas promo card! Which I'll be using in my Pauper U/B deck. Thanks again for all your MTG contents!
I completely agree with your rankings Professor! I recently taught my wife to play Magic and I got her the United Assault Challenger Deck and she is currently 10-2 with it in Friday Night Standard Magic Play Tournaments.
If there had been arena codes I might have picked one up. The omission is sad because there was one in the last planeswalker deck (Dovin) I purchased and I have gotten great value out of it on arena. None of these decks are in my wheelhouse but the sulfur falls would have gotten me to pounce on the izzet build. Alas, no code, no moolah.
I didn't find it too hard to grind into an ok Izzet Drake build, but yeah, woulda been nice to grab a mono red and have 2 decent Arena decks for not much
Just pointing out the obvious, Arena has much higher profit margin than paper. Therefore there will not be codes since they would lose money on that trade. Big stores open hundreds of these decks for singles and would sell the codes separately undermining their Arena profits.
If Pokémon can put codes in all their products for online why can’t MTG? Just like you said it will help bridge the gap between paper and digital players! Sounds like common sense to me 🧐
As someone who teaches the game to quite a few new people these decks are so much better than the usual starters with 60 cards where everything is a one of usually. What happens with those decks is the new player is just overwhelmed with so many different cards he's both playing himself and against and it really slows down the game when you have to keep 're reading everything multiple times. I hope these become a yearly product.
Dan Johnson I would rather support a local store, but if they are okay with doing that then I would just go to Walmart and pick up the one I wanted for msrp
My "local game store" is currently selling Arcane Tempo at the price of what equates to $ 47.03. I would say it is cheaper to buy it from Amazon US and bring it to my country at that price..
11 AM, the moment my store opened, I walked inside and got myself the Arcane Tempo deck. After buying a guttersnipe, a couple Ionize, some Skewer the Critics, and a 'Thousand Year Storm' I had a powerhouse deck that just kicked ass in Friday Night magic! Thanks Wizards!
If it had a code for the same deck in Arena, with how expensive the rarewildcards are, buying the psysical product would be way cheaper to get one of the challenger deks in Arena rather than buying digitally.
Hi! I started playing about a month of two and just looked at this video. I started buying a planeswalker deck of Ral, Stormcaller and liked the character and stuff and the idea behind the deck itself. The workers of the store where I play other TCGs told me about the challenger decks but I was doubting because I was just started playing so I did some research and the blue/red deck works pretty good with Ral! Thanks a lot professor!
Just bought the mono red and will play in FNM this coming Friday with it. So excited to get back into paper ;) Izzet drakes are next for me, and then I may transition into a mill deck. I can foirmly say Arena got me back into MTG, and I couldn't be more excited.
I saw this video about 15 minutes before I was leaving for FNM yesterday. I didn't realize they were releasing yesterday and had not seen any deck lists. As soon as I saw the cards in Arcane Tempo I knew I had to change what I was playing. I dug out my Steam Vents and that was all the upgrades I needed to take down FNM. Such a fun, powerful deck.
Holy Moley, I leave for 13 yeears and they print Dauntless Bodyguard! What would Isamaru and the Savanah Lion say to that! Thanks for these Videos! They are bringing me up to speed again! Good Lord the Powercreep on the Red one drop creatures! Its beautifull! But...well....
Might want to mention to our newfriends from Arena that sleeves are an IRL thing too. Saw a guy cracking open the mono W after pairings at FNM. He didn't get why you'd have to have sleeves for double faced cards. He eventually understood, and we made him some proxies, but he couldn't have been the only one.
Went to a local game store in a different town to buy some removal spells for a green black deck I was going to build and they told me I should come back tomorrow (Friday) and by the golgari deck so now I'm not going back to get the deck and I'll just find them online. Thanks Professor
Seriously Prof, thanks so much for the work you do -- knowing you built them all and tested them extensively before release is such great research to have! Keep up the awesome work!
I'm actually a fan of the red deck and the white deck because they are very similar to ones used by my two favorite players. Kinda adds some value to them for me personally. I mean they are super similar to everyone's deck for the Arena Mythic,but still lol. I don't have a PC to play Arena,so the codes don't sway me one way or another. I'm thinking of giving the ones from my WAR prerelease kit and Gideon deck to someone so they aren't completely wasted. I just recently started playing again after seeing War of the Spark everywhere. Before that the last time I was diehard was fourth edition. Long story short I've become a big fan of the channel in that small amount of time. Keep it up!
I was looking forward to these, but with no arena support I may not be getting all 4 as I was planning. As a casual player I do have most of the pieces in digital, but getting both physical and digital would have been worth it
Woah woah woah hold your horses! That ajanis pridemate was from war of the sparks! I know this probably doesn’t mean anything but it’s weird to see cards from a set that hasn’t even come out yet to be in circulation
The Golgari is a lot like my own deck. The thing is, in my deck I use Carnage Tyrants and Doom Whisperers. The deck doesnt need to be Sultai, but you're on point with the need to something to win the game with. I think it's counting too much with Eldest Reborn snatching something good (I get some victories like that from time to time, but you cant relly on it, right).
I completely agree with you on your stance of them having Arena codes included withe these products. Arena should sell these decks at a low fixed price; to keep people from trying to profit from the codes. I'm an EDH player. I just like the boxes because they hold a mini D6 set and tokens.
Great video! I would love to have a guide to budget upgrading these decks to be as balanced against each other as possible. I’d like to have these decks to play causally for fun but would want them to be as balanced against one another as possible.
hi great review! Question; how do these decks rank up against the Guild Kit decks in terms of enjoyment ? Im looking for casual fun pre-made decks to be played with friends (we are not beginners though!).
I really want to get into Magic by trying out a mono white deck because of Learning about a character like Gideon so I’m glad to hear United is that good. Thanks mate.
As a returning player I purchased the Arcane Tempo and Lightning Aggro. Loved them, I just wish I could find some Enigma Drakes and Rals for Arcane Tempo. As for the Mono Red, I just added some Light up the Stage... it work wondes. Thanks for the review Prof! (Now I'm tempted to purchase the White one... D: )
I personally run a BG Golgari w/ a wild growth package with loathed giant as a finisher with poison tip arrow and Izorni as a back up. Then use mulderhulk as my main pressure endlessly getting it with memorial... also picking up Chubas and other things along the way as I need them. If you want I can post the list here.
@@whatsupRay I would be interested in your list! I picked this up to play a few casual FNMs because I already had land upgrades but I do need a few finishers.
@@whatsupRay can you provide the list? also can i ask for some advice on BG golgari block decks since rotate is less than 6 months left methinks (Assassin's trophy as singles is officially off my list because of moneeeeeh)
@@hoshi314 1 Lotleth Giant (GRN) 74 9 Forest (RIX) 196 2 Kraul Foragers (GRN) 135 7 Swamp (RIX) 194 1 Hatchery Spider (GRN) 132 1 Izoni, Thousand-Eyed (GRN) 180 4 Molderhulk (GRN) 190 1 Vivien Reid (M19) 208 4 Ravenous Chupacabra (RIX) 82 2 Overgrown Tomb (GRN) 253 2 Woodland Cemetery (DAR) 248 2 Find // Finality (GRN) 225 4 Glowspore Shaman (GRN) 173 2 Poison-Tip Archer (M19) 220 1 Vraska, Regal Gorgon (GRN) 269 1 Underrealm Lich (GRN) 211 2 Golgari Guildgate (GRN) 248 4 Stitcher's Supplier (M19) 121 4 Merfolk Branchwalker (XLN) 197 3 Jadelight Ranger (RIX) 136 1 Thrashing Brontodon (RIX) 148 2 Memorial to Folly (DAR) 242 *i play best of ones so i dont have a side board.. I actually dont run wild growth walker, because fogger heals more reliably and i decided against assassins trophy to keep the deck more minion based (plus memorial to folly into chuba into mulderhulk pulling back out your memorial it pretty nuts). One last thing, i accidentally got the wrong vraska planeswalker, either go glogari queen or relic seeker for a alternate finisher..... other then that i have had alot of success with this deck.
@@Sad7Statue 1 Lotleth Giant (GRN) 74 9 Forest (RIX) 196 2 Kraul Foragers (GRN) 135 7 Swamp (RIX) 194 1 Hatchery Spider (GRN) 132 1 Izoni, Thousand-Eyed (GRN) 180 4 Molderhulk (GRN) 190 1 Vivien Reid (M19) 208 4 Ravenous Chupacabra (RIX) 82 2 Overgrown Tomb (GRN) 253 2 Woodland Cemetery (DAR) 248 2 Find // Finality (GRN) 225 4 Glowspore Shaman (GRN) 173 2 Poison-Tip Archer (M19) 220 1 Vraska, Regal Gorgon (GRN) 269 1 Underrealm Lich (GRN) 211 2 Golgari Guildgate (GRN) 248 4 Stitcher's Supplier (M19) 121 4 Merfolk Branchwalker (XLN) 197 3 Jadelight Ranger (RIX) 136 1 Thrashing Brontodon (RIX) 148 2 Memorial to Folly (DAR) 242 *i play best of ones so i dont have a side board.. I actually dont run wild growth walker, because fogger heals more reliably and i decided against assassins trophy to keep the deck more minion based (plus memorial to folly into chuba into mulderhulk pulling back out your memorial it pretty nuts). One last thing, i accidentally got the wrong vraska planeswalker, either go glogari queen or relic seeker for a alternate finisher..... other then that i have had alot of success with this deck.
I started last year, I feel I got in at the wrong time, a lot of stuff keeps being changed, the rules are more complicated than ever and for a teen it's quite expensive
It could be worse, I got back into Magic just a year before you, and I must say that finding a casual play group is helpful to learn things and experiment.
@@starguardlux2874 yeah but no one my age that lives near me plays, I'm fine with playing with older players but I would like someone my own age to play with
Joseph Phoenix I see your problem, and I can relate to you. I stopped playing about six years ago while I was in high school. I had the same problem, and only got back in while I was in college when a friend told me dinosaurs were coming to Magic.
I'm personally thinking of getting the mono white deck nit for standard but as a nice intro deck to lend to friends for casual play to learn and play magic. it's not super complicated but it's also not super weak and watered down like an old starter deck
I got the Arcane Tempo and absolutely love it! I have won quite a few times with it already, though I have also lost a few times from not drawing well. I tacked on a few more lands and will be upgrading the Izzet Guildgates, at the very least adding a Sulfur Falls for my fourth. I am also adding Enigma Drake, he fits really well. Essentially I could have a 23/4 Drake lol. In one game of four players, I survived to second place with nothing on my battlefield for half of the game and then a 2/2 Goblin Electromancer for the third quarter. In the end, I added two enchantments to my Electromancer giving him flying and +3/+3. The only reason I lost was because my opponent had a 13/13 flying creature.
I am old player from Ravanica and Time Spiral Block, looking for few fun decks to play with my brother (he played when i did) and a few new players. I was looking how to have a few simple decks for new players, but still fun for older players. And ofc it needed to be affordable. In my research a have reduced me to 3 choices. 1. Game Night by MTG wizard of the cost - It's 5 decks, balanced together, greate for beginners and very cheap. Down side, older players may be bored very soon. At my local mtg store it's about 40$ 2. Card Kingdom Battle decks - Fun and easy decks but shipping international is too expensive. If i want to buy one deck shipping is 45$ for a 9.99$ deck. That is just to much and i am so sad i can not afford that option. 3. Old Challenger decks - This are very fun deck for skilled players, they around 25$ - 55$ at my local MTG store. Down side, hard for new players and would have to have a lot of patients with them to learn them. Any one maybe have any other ides?
I'm likely to buy at least 2 of them if not all 4. Just to have a variety of options and the ability to play kitchen magic. It is a shame Golgari isn't competitive with the others but it is an option to use as a handicap.
Why no shock lands you ask? Value\Reprint equity. Adding them would have added $40 of value to the Izzet deck and $20 to the Golgari deck, meaning lots of places would have cracked them to sell as singles or charged way above MSRP (for as long as that lasts). Keeping out the shocks is an attempt to keep the product going to players rather than only to stores. And they can throw shocks into any product they want, any time, to sell just about anything. How much would people pay for Spellbook: Shocks? Especially if they drop the FTV foiling and had unique art!
The Golgari deck has a finisher though, the Wildgrowth Walker. once you get that out there and start Exploring, they get very big and difficult to deal with.
Aren't some of those sets about to cycle out in a few months? Like core 2019? What would someone be recommended to do then? I'm just curious. Wait for next year's decks or try to find reprints for certain cards from the upcoming sets to still be able to use the deck? It might be a stupid question,idk.
I’ve cobbled together something that resembles arcane tempo over the last few weeks on arena. Sad that there’s no code included as that would have been a super big draw to purchase!
im definitely buying the Izzet and Mono Red decks.. That Izzet deck is basically my favorite shell of that deck and you can add a few cards here or there to make it into one of the top tier decks right now... Same thing with Mono-Red.. It's essentially the top tier Mono-Red deck minus Skewer the Critics and Light up The Stage... Can't wait to get that Izzet deck... CANNOT WAITTTTTT
I got lucky at my local game store they did and eventually where you pay 40 bucks get one deck of your choice and a few booater packs and join a tournament, I got arcane tempo cause I love both blue and red decks and I wanna try a Izzet drakes style deck.
I wish WotC would give the SEA region Arena codes in pre-release packs at least. None were in the packs for RNA, and I have doubts they'll put any in WAR as well.
Because of the cost of the cards in Arcane Tempo, my local shop put those decks behind the counter to try and lessen the chance of someone walking in just to buy and flip. Which I have to say, is very fair. To get the deck for retail and support the local shop is the way to go.
I normally buy my magic products at my local LGS, just happened to be at Target on the 11th the day before the challenger deck were suppose to be out. I saw the arcane tempo and the red aggro deck out for 30$ each and thought "what a steal before they come out."
I personally run a BG Golgari w/ a wild growth package with loathed giant as a finisher with poison tip arrow and Izorni as a back up. Then use mulderhulk as my main pressure endlessly getting it with memorial... also picking up Chubas and other things along the way as I need them.
Just picked up arcane tempo. Red blue decks make me feel nostalgia. Izzet was my first color pairing so I got it out of sentimentality. Player wise I figure with what's coming in war of the spark I feel it would be fun to try. I'm thinking after seeing the deck add a couple guttersnipes and an extra arclight Phoenix taking out one niv mizzet.
Love your vids Prof!! A few new friends are just getting into mtg and I was thinking of directing them to the Challenger decks. Btw the low grade shows under the monowhite instead of the BG deck
I did play Lightning Aggro at fnm yesterday. Went 3-1. The best with these decks are the attendence at LGS increases. I havent played standard since Shadows and i wasent alone newcomer that friday. These decks are awesome for the LGS!
I might pick up the white one to use at fnm until WOS comes out but honestly I'm a little bit disappointed that they actually did two of these in mono colors with all the hype of going back to Ravnica😞
Honestly, if you want to get into paper magic, get two of these. Got the white wheenie and the mono red for 44€ total at my local game store, threw in a couple of sleeves and ended up paying 50€ total. That's roughly ≈14 Kebabs for comparison. Fair deal imo.
Obviously, grade at the end of the video got flipped. Golgari is the worst of the four and the only deck that is **NOT** an A-
Ok thx
My lgs is having a challenger deck fnm for the same price
I was passively watching... and I was like... what?!
As a commander player. That decks back bones were made for budget kitchen table play.
Whoops, oh well! We all make mistakes
11:47 professor??? I have a complaint about my grade...
-mono white Challenger deck
Fanny Delgadillo the Golgari deck is officially that high school bully that swapped names with the top achiever in the test.
Brian, you just saved me a conk of money. As a grad student desperately trying to hold on to my hobby, that means a lot.
My job is to save you money. I am so happy to have helped you!
If you are going to grab one, I recommend Arcane tempo since a good chunk of cards are rotation proof
Danny Knight My first buy, Definitely don’t regret it 👍🏽
that's cool that they included the war of the spark version of ajani's pridemate
Ikr? Kinda shocked me a little bit when I opened it.
What the fuck happened to ajit pai???
thank you for continuing to push wizards to put arena codes in products. As a very limited budget player who does both paper and digital magic, those codes go a long way towards helping people like me to have more fun and better value at the game as a whole. I hope they start to listen soon, because while I do like planeswalker decks, I know they're not for everyone, and more product should come with codes.
Just pointing out the obvious, Arena has much higher profit margin than paper. Therefore there will not be codes since they would lose money on that trade. Big stores open hundreds of these decks for singles and would sell the codes separately undermining their Arena profits.
@@vekeuimonen11 Dude Pokemon TCG includes codes for nearly every products, including codes for promo cards and decks. They're not losing any money. There's an active trading community on the PTCGO where people who buy physical card packs are able to trade their digital packs for specific digital cards. It works out great.
@@bigz4349 Very different market and very different approach. Arena was designed to reach large audiences and to eliminate secondary market. Trading just doesnt fit into it. if you think about how much more money pokemon tcg online would make if they sold all those online products instead of gifting them away you surely see why they dont want to go the same way with mtga. Arena actually get players into magic where as I have never heard anyone getting into pokemon starting with online play (Although I know very few pokemon players anyway and play it completely for the nostalgia)
@@vekeuimonen11 And I'll argue that the PCTGO system is better because of that. Progression is limited to either building your collection through physical card purchases, buying codes from secondary markets or grinding entirely through online.
All option that help to bolster a healthy community
@@bigz4349I cant argue against that from player perspective. But just think how little wotc gets from a paper booster and how much they get from digital one, the digital booster brings in more cash with less requirements. They are in it for the money, as long as people buy boosters on arena they arent going to give them away for free (same for other products).
Right on with those codes prof. It’s about time Wizards sees the value in that!!
Gotta leverage those synergies!
For sure, I would actually play arena if I could start with something at least kinda competitive.
Codes would get me to buy paper again
Does this deck bring a Code card or something for have the deck on mtg arena? Ty if u answer dude
@@ducal_a_3.50 None of these decks have codes, it's kind of a bummer.
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THANK YOU about the Arena code thing. When I saw RNA Planeswalker decks had arena codes I got excited just because I'd be able to pick one of this year's challengers online.
I would be sure to include that feedback in the next Wotc survey
@@firekram What's that?
@@timvandoren2432 how exciting and enticing it is to have the codes, so theyll add them to more
@@timvandoren2432 after every set or so they put out a little survey to gage customer satisfaction. There is room for comments.
Just pointing out the obvious, Arena has much higher profit margin than paper. Therefore there will not be codes since they would lose money on that trade. Big stores open hundreds of these decks for singles and would sell the codes separately undermining their Arena profits.
Just bought the Izzet deck and played my first FNM standard event ever! Had a total blast! Thanks Professor for encouraging me to give it a go!
“I built all four of them in Magic Arena and paper leading up to the release” sums up magic community in a nutshell :)
Never have I heard such a true statement
For it to really sum it up he would have built them magic online to.
No, it doesn't. There's a huge amount of MTG players that only buy their cards at Walmart and end up only playing kitchen table, or at small FNM's. Now, if you had said the most heard in the Magic community.....
I am confused by this statement. Do many Magic players copy precon decklists?
@@cdadamly they playtest them
Honestly can't imagine not having you as a content creator Professor - your contributions to the community are always appreciated
The Professor's comments are always so useful and the suggestions to improve the product in its design, such as chucking in more rares and adding arena codes are both positive for the mtg community and wizards themselves. Prof needs to infiltrate their design team.
Hey prof at 11:40 you messed up the grading. You gave the mono white deck the d+/c-
oops
I smell Rudy tactics
Thank you for these reviews. As a brand new mtg player I would usually just buy random products and hope for the best.
Picked up United Assault last night, awesome deck! Got it sleeved up in my deck box this morning, gonna be a good weekend 😊 Thanks for the exquisite review professor 👍
*Agree on the codes !* … as far as the lists go, i might have been in for the Golgari deck (sucker for G/B), but there seem to be some very weird inclusion and omissions in the list that make me not to interested (no Vraska's contempt ? no Carnage Tyrant (not even a bone dragon?), what are those Llanowar Elves doing in there? No Uncommon B/G split card of which the name alludes me atm.). Like i get that this is not the Sultai decklist due to lead-time in design/testing/production, but the list does miss some clear cards (even as one-off) for a competitive Golgari deck :( …
(and even for an upgrade to Sultai, which basically just needs some Negates in the side (and a landbase to cast those), it seems far off, sure the Hydroid makes it the truly competitive Sultai version, but the deck was and is strong enough to just be competitive with some Negates to make sure you can get important plays through against control).
Llanowar elves has always been a staple in any golgari deck, but it was definitely a blunder to not have Carnage tyrant or Vraska's Contempt
@@stickmanphil12345 ok weird, so I've played Golgari on Arena ever since the release (be it without the explore package), and i have tried Llanowar Elves in that deck a couple of times (with a ramp package), but found it mostly under performing, and it's a bad top deck.
And sure, the one time you get it on turn 1 and the opp doesn't instantly removes it, it can get you a bit of ramp early game. But seeing how the deck basically has a longer game strategy, i found that early advantage negligible.
Now this might be different once Hydriod is added to the equation, but even there, due to the explore you are bound to have tons of lands (and thus mana) and still have that longer game strategy, so i dunno, i would probably cut it for other cards tbh.
@@stickmanphil12345 Now obviously you will ask. what did you play, if not Explore Nor Ramp.
1x Artifact with Spinal art that lets you put stuff in GY and put some back for a sac of it.
4x Reassembling Skeleton
4x w.e. 3/1 elf that dunk stuff in GY.
1x Bone Dragon
Also Several cards that need sacrificial costs to be paid. And the Skeleton was basically the engine for that. The strategy was basically to resolve a Bone Dragon, 6/6 Demon that needs a sac, or Tyrant… Or to get the split card board wipe on a creature that wouldn't die to the wipe.
So, i ran a sac/gy package instead… The 'core' though, was and is still pretty much the same and yeah, those two cards we all mention are pretty integral to the deck. (and 1 copy would have been enough to include tbh. i just ran one of each and that seemed just fine).
@@stickmanphil12345 Addition to the sac/gy package; i have found that since the release of Allegiance the strategy has started to under perform against certain new decks, and also other decks have adjusted to Golgari as a whole.
So still trying to find the right answers to adjust, without having to run what everybody else is running :P
Llanowar Elves are great in Golgari or Sultai Midrange. There's a reason they're included in most deck lists. They're incredible in the opening hand and explore allows you to graveyard them when the come around late game.
Hey Prof, thanks for the constant reminder to support LGS. I was going to buy a box of Keyforge for a fun game weekend at my place with friends and co-workers. Instead I drove down to my LGS and bought a partially full box, but one that had plenty enough decks for the event. Passionate people who love what they do and need our support. Not to mention, ah hell. I'll leave story time for another time. Thanks for always mentioning it. You're doing all of us a huge solid. Players and the LGS we play at.
This is perfect timing,
I'm new to Magic and i saw these in the store but wasn't sure what they were. Now i know, thank you
Im new into MTG and a friend of mine told me to buy the united assault deck. He got Arcane Tempo and - i was just learning mtg - I smashed him three times in a row! This was awesome for my first MTG gaming experience and now im hyped for more. Also thanks for your helpful and informative content brian! Helps me out a lot!
I’m also new! My friend taught me the game then told me to go to Friday night magic with him. I picked up the United assault (cause the store owner said it was the easiest lol) and then my friend demolished me with his custom mono red deck!
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Story time!! So when the Challenger decks and this video were released, I was in Basic Combat Training at Ft. Sill. During one of our precious few phone times, I saw a notification from Google saying that they had been released. I quickly looked over the decks (not deck lists tho) and made the hasty decision to order United Assault. Fast forward to today where the Professor is saying that said mono white deck is the best of the four. This.... Does bring a smile to my face
Thanks for another great review. I'm getting back into standard after a bit of an absence, and was looking for an affordable path to return to FNM. These decks were on Massdrop last week and I ordered them; I'm even more excited for them to arrive after watching this video!
Thanks for putting so much effort into test play, prof.
I will be picking up an arcane tempo deck from my LGS soon! great video! and you are so right about arena codes. The hardest part about really getting into arena is getting a good deck, and this helps jumpstart new players, and gives remaining players a new way to play on the game, and practice their deck for FNM
Arena brought me back to Magic after a long long time. Very thoughtful of you to point out the lack of codes, it would be a very cool feature. Now, about those decks, i picked the 4-set yesterday, i had it preordered in my LGS. They are awesome. I'm keeping 3 and gifting the golgari to a friend.
Hello Professor! I have just recently gotten back into paper as I played for fun with friends in MS/HS and briefly with a roommate in college. Been playing a lot of arena and went to the war of spark pre-release and DC MF. My LGS has a helluva deal where they offer 30% off challenger decks on Standard Thursdays so I might pick up the Red Aggro as I can add an experimental frenzy, legion war boss with other playable red cards and see where it goes! Thanks for being the MTG Mr Rogers/Stephen Colbert!
I grabbed a set last year, and already got my set this year. I leave them as is, and sleeve for casual games with friends, and it also allows me to play standard with my buddies who do play that format.
My playgroup at my lgs is a semi-competitive edh circle but today we each bought a challenger deck, I got both the white weenies and the golgari midrange decks and my friends and I played with the decks sleeved out of the box and had a blast. The golgari is definitely a little under powered, but it's still fun if it's your playstyle. We're gonna be upgrading them all and play again next week. I adore this product and hope it continues.
Ya the lack of arena codes is a big miss step. That is such an easy way to increase the value and demand for these products.
True but i fear many 2nd hand sellers would crack it for the singels AND sell the code. Im sure WotC had their worries about it themselfs.
@@jannikwinkelmann2050 ya but people are already going to be doing that.
Thanks for the great review! I purchased the Lightning Aggro and attended my very first FNM Standard event last night. It's a fun deck to play with while I got the feel for my LGS meta and the Standard format. Amazing I came first and won myself an Augur of Bolas promo card! Which I'll be using in my Pauper U/B deck. Thanks again for all your MTG contents!
Picked up Arcane Tempo today from the LGS for msrp too thankfully. Looking forward to playing it tonight!
A thorough & fantastic delve into these decks.you took the time to review playability and value. Exactly the review we need. Keep on keeping on, prof.
I completely agree with your rankings Professor! I recently taught my wife to play Magic and I got her the United Assault Challenger Deck and she is currently 10-2 with it in Friday Night Standard Magic Play Tournaments.
If there had been arena codes I might have picked one up. The omission is sad because there was one in the last planeswalker deck (Dovin) I purchased and I have gotten great value out of it on arena. None of these decks are in my wheelhouse but the sulfur falls would have gotten me to pounce on the izzet build. Alas, no code, no moolah.
I didn't find it too hard to grind into an ok Izzet Drake build, but yeah, woulda been nice to grab a mono red and have 2 decent Arena decks for not much
I probably would have bought 2 of them lol. But yeah , no code no thanks.
Just pointing out the obvious, Arena has much higher profit margin than paper. Therefore there will not be codes since they would lose money on that trade. Big stores open hundreds of these decks for singles and would sell the codes separately undermining their Arena profits.
If Pokémon can put codes in all their products for online why can’t MTG? Just like you said it will help bridge the gap between paper and digital players! Sounds like common sense to me 🧐
Prof, where is the Challenger Deck 2020? analisys?! cmon, I'm counting on you!
As someone who teaches the game to quite a few new people these decks are so much better than the usual starters with 60 cards where everything is a one of usually. What happens with those decks is the new player is just overwhelmed with so many different cards he's both playing himself and against and it really slows down the game when you have to keep 're reading everything multiple times. I hope these become a yearly product.
Not picking up any looked at 3 stores red/blue and red are going for $60 F THAT gouging at its finest
Picked red up today for 32
Got a debit card and valid postal? Innernet is yo fren. Vote with your dollars
My store has them for $29.99. Picked the white one up today at standard showdown.
Plenty of ebay sellers letting them go for 80 for all four decks.
Dan Johnson I would rather support a local store, but if they are okay with doing that then I would just go to Walmart and pick up the one I wanted for msrp
My "local game store" is currently selling Arcane Tempo at the price of what equates to $ 47.03.
I would say it is cheaper to buy it from Amazon US and bring it to my country at that price..
I just got it in Germany for 20 euro plus postage, might be an option if its worth the postage.
I walked into Walmart for 34 dollars...also noticed price is dropping online so LGS might go down in price as well.
11 AM, the moment my store opened, I walked inside and got myself the Arcane Tempo deck. After buying a guttersnipe, a couple Ionize, some Skewer the Critics, and a 'Thousand Year Storm' I had a powerhouse deck that just kicked ass in Friday Night magic! Thanks Wizards!
If it had a code for the same deck in Arena, with how expensive the rarewildcards are, buying the psysical product would be way cheaper to get one of the challenger deks in Arena rather than buying digitally.
Hi! I started playing about a month of two and just looked at this video.
I started buying a planeswalker deck of Ral, Stormcaller and liked the character and stuff and the idea behind the deck itself.
The workers of the store where I play other TCGs told me about the challenger decks but I was doubting because I was just started playing so I did some research and the blue/red deck works pretty good with Ral!
Thanks a lot professor!
Just bought the mono red and will play in FNM this coming Friday with it. So excited to get back into paper ;) Izzet drakes are next for me, and then I may transition into a mill deck. I can foirmly say Arena got me back into MTG, and I couldn't be more excited.
I saw this video about 15 minutes before I was leaving for FNM yesterday. I didn't realize they were releasing yesterday and had not seen any deck lists. As soon as I saw the cards in Arcane Tempo I knew I had to change what I was playing. I dug out my Steam Vents and that was all the upgrades I needed to take down FNM. Such a fun, powerful deck.
Holy Moley, I leave for 13 yeears and they print Dauntless Bodyguard! What would Isamaru and the Savanah Lion say to that! Thanks for these Videos! They are bringing me up to speed again!
Good Lord the Powercreep on the Red one drop creatures! Its beautifull! But...well....
I got the dark and Green deck cuz i play with those colours
Was thst a good idea?
Might want to mention to our newfriends from Arena that sleeves are an IRL thing too. Saw a guy cracking open the mono W after pairings at FNM. He didn't get why you'd have to have sleeves for double faced cards. He eventually understood, and we made him some proxies, but he couldn't have been the only one.
Thanks for all the hard work testing these decks!
Many Magic The Gathering Players ask the question: *How Does One Get So Early To A Great Video?*
Arena codes would also benefit paper only players, by letting them trade them to others
Went to a local game store in a different town to buy some removal spells for a green black deck I was going to build and they told me I should come back tomorrow (Friday) and by the golgari deck so now I'm not going back to get the deck and I'll just find them online.
Thanks Professor
Picked up 2 arcane tempos at my LGS for $57 with tax and almost started crying. This is why we support our game stores.
Seriously Prof, thanks so much for the work you do -- knowing you built them all and tested them extensively before release is such great research to have! Keep up the awesome work!
I'm actually a fan of the red deck and the white deck because they are very similar to ones used by my two favorite players. Kinda adds some value to them for me personally. I mean they are super similar to everyone's deck for the Arena Mythic,but still lol. I don't have a PC to play Arena,so the codes don't sway me one way or another. I'm thinking of giving the ones from my WAR prerelease kit and Gideon deck to someone so they aren't completely wasted. I just recently started playing again after seeing War of the Spark everywhere. Before that the last time I was diehard was fourth edition. Long story short I've become a big fan of the channel in that small amount of time. Keep it up!
I was looking forward to these, but with no arena support I may not be getting all 4 as I was planning. As a casual player I do have most of the pieces in digital, but getting both physical and digital would have been worth it
Woah woah woah hold your horses! That ajanis pridemate was from war of the sparks! I know this probably doesn’t mean anything but it’s weird to see cards from a set that hasn’t even come out yet to be in circulation
The Golgari is a lot like my own deck. The thing is, in my deck I use Carnage Tyrants and Doom Whisperers.
The deck doesnt need to be Sultai, but you're on point with the need to something to win the game with. I think it's counting too much with Eldest Reborn snatching something good (I get some victories like that from time to time, but you cant relly on it, right).
Listened to this on the way to the card shop! Bought white for myself and Izzett for kiddo! Thanks!
I completely agree with you on your stance of them having Arena codes included withe these products. Arena should sell these decks at a low fixed price; to keep people from trying to profit from the codes.
I'm an EDH player. I just like the boxes because they hold a mini D6 set and tokens.
11:51 the grades for the first and 3rd decks got mixed up, good thing you have peer review !
I couldn't find a single store online or IRL selling the Arcane Tempo for MSRP =/ all are $45+
Esteban [DeadG] i found them at meijer for 33$
Collectors Cache on Walmart.com for 40$ and free shipping
My local Walmart had it for 31$
I was shocked that all my local gamestores were either sold out or not in stock yet and my local Walmart had many boxes in stash for 31$ each
Professor what do you think is the best guild?
By the way it says that Golgari is an A and the united assault deck says it is d/-c
The monowhite one :P
Yeah I’m curious to see what everyone’s favorite guild is here....it’s hard to choose just one.
I think you had the grades at the end out of order. I think the D+/C- was supposed to be given to the golgari deck, not united assault
Yeah it still feels like there's some disconnect between paper/digital teams. Super weird to not have ARENA codes in this kind of product :/
Ayyy pretty early this time! Been waiting for this one, thanks for the review Prof!
I got the Izzet deck because i plan on going Izzet in War of the Spark, so it helped me fill out my list of staples to get me started practicing now.
Great video! I would love to have a guide to budget upgrading these decks to be as balanced against each other as possible. I’d like to have these decks to play causally for fun but would want them to be as balanced against one another as possible.
hi great review! Question; how do these decks rank up against the Guild Kit decks in terms of enjoyment ? Im looking for casual fun pre-made decks to be played with friends (we are not beginners though!).
Did you intend to put this out exactly one year to the day after last years challenger deck video?
I really want to get into Magic by trying out a mono white deck because of Learning about a character like Gideon so I’m glad to hear United is that good. Thanks mate.
As a returning player I purchased the Arcane Tempo and Lightning Aggro. Loved them, I just wish I could find some Enigma Drakes and Rals for Arcane Tempo. As for the Mono Red, I just added some Light up the Stage... it work wondes. Thanks for the review Prof! (Now I'm tempted to purchase the White one... D: )
Broffesor I am going to start Magic because of you thank you so much
All but the golgari is a solid A
Rip Golgari Dreams😭😭😭😭
“I just wanted to be like Izzet tempo!”
-Golgari
I personally run a BG Golgari w/ a wild growth package with loathed giant as a finisher with poison tip arrow and Izorni as a back up. Then use mulderhulk as my main pressure endlessly getting it with memorial... also picking up Chubas and other things along the way as I need them.
If you want I can post the list here.
@@whatsupRay I would be interested in your list! I picked this up to play a few casual FNMs because I already had land upgrades but I do need a few finishers.
@@whatsupRay can you provide the list? also can i ask for some advice on BG golgari block decks since rotate is less than 6 months left methinks (Assassin's trophy as singles is officially off my list because of moneeeeeh)
@@hoshi314
1 Lotleth Giant (GRN) 74
9 Forest (RIX) 196
2 Kraul Foragers (GRN) 135
7 Swamp (RIX) 194
1 Hatchery Spider (GRN) 132
1 Izoni, Thousand-Eyed (GRN) 180
4 Molderhulk (GRN) 190
1 Vivien Reid (M19) 208
4 Ravenous Chupacabra (RIX) 82
2 Overgrown Tomb (GRN) 253
2 Woodland Cemetery (DAR) 248
2 Find // Finality (GRN) 225
4 Glowspore Shaman (GRN) 173
2 Poison-Tip Archer (M19) 220
1 Vraska, Regal Gorgon (GRN) 269
1 Underrealm Lich (GRN) 211
2 Golgari Guildgate (GRN) 248
4 Stitcher's Supplier (M19) 121
4 Merfolk Branchwalker (XLN) 197
3 Jadelight Ranger (RIX) 136
1 Thrashing Brontodon (RIX) 148
2 Memorial to Folly (DAR) 242
*i play best of ones so i dont have a side board..
I actually dont run wild growth walker, because fogger heals more reliably and i decided against assassins trophy to keep the deck more minion based (plus memorial to folly into chuba into mulderhulk pulling back out your memorial it pretty nuts).
One last thing, i accidentally got the wrong vraska planeswalker, either go glogari queen or relic seeker for a alternate finisher..... other then that i have had alot of success with this deck.
@@Sad7Statue
1 Lotleth Giant (GRN) 74
9 Forest (RIX) 196
2 Kraul Foragers (GRN) 135
7 Swamp (RIX) 194
1 Hatchery Spider (GRN) 132
1 Izoni, Thousand-Eyed (GRN) 180
4 Molderhulk (GRN) 190
1 Vivien Reid (M19) 208
4 Ravenous Chupacabra (RIX) 82
2 Overgrown Tomb (GRN) 253
2 Woodland Cemetery (DAR) 248
2 Find // Finality (GRN) 225
4 Glowspore Shaman (GRN) 173
2 Poison-Tip Archer (M19) 220
1 Vraska, Regal Gorgon (GRN) 269
1 Underrealm Lich (GRN) 211
2 Golgari Guildgate (GRN) 248
4 Stitcher's Supplier (M19) 121
4 Merfolk Branchwalker (XLN) 197
3 Jadelight Ranger (RIX) 136
1 Thrashing Brontodon (RIX) 148
2 Memorial to Folly (DAR) 242
*i play best of ones so i dont have a side board..
I actually dont run wild growth walker, because fogger heals more reliably and i decided against assassins trophy to keep the deck more minion based (plus memorial to folly into chuba into mulderhulk pulling back out your memorial it pretty nuts).
One last thing, i accidentally got the wrong vraska planeswalker, either go glogari queen or relic seeker for a alternate finisher..... other then that i have had alot of success with this deck.
I started last year, I feel I got in at the wrong time, a lot of stuff keeps being changed, the rules are more complicated than ever and for a teen it's quite expensive
It could be worse, I got back into Magic just a year before you, and I must say that finding a casual play group is helpful to learn things and experiment.
@@starguardlux2874 yeah but no one my age that lives near me plays, I'm fine with playing with older players but I would like someone my own age to play with
Joseph Phoenix I see your problem, and I can relate to you. I stopped playing about six years ago while I was in high school. I had the same problem, and only got back in while I was in college when a friend told me dinosaurs were coming to Magic.
I'm personally thinking of getting the mono white deck nit for standard but as a nice intro deck to lend to friends for casual play to learn and play magic. it's not super complicated but it's also not super weak and watered down like an old starter deck
I got the Arcane Tempo and absolutely love it! I have won quite a few times with it already, though I have also lost a few times from not drawing well. I tacked on a few more lands and will be upgrading the Izzet Guildgates, at the very least adding a Sulfur Falls for my fourth. I am also adding Enigma Drake, he fits really well. Essentially I could have a 23/4 Drake lol.
In one game of four players, I survived to second place with nothing on my battlefield for half of the game and then a 2/2 Goblin Electromancer for the third quarter. In the end, I added two enchantments to my Electromancer giving him flying and +3/+3. The only reason I lost was because my opponent had a 13/13 flying creature.
I am old player from Ravanica and Time Spiral Block, looking for few fun decks to play with my brother (he played when i did) and a few new players.
I was looking how to have a few simple decks for new players, but still fun for older players. And ofc it needed to be affordable.
In my research a have reduced me to 3 choices.
1. Game Night by MTG wizard of the cost - It's 5 decks, balanced together, greate for beginners and very cheap. Down side, older players may be bored very soon. At my local mtg store it's about 40$
2. Card Kingdom Battle decks - Fun and easy decks but shipping international is too expensive. If i want to buy one deck shipping is 45$ for a 9.99$ deck. That is just to much and i am so sad i can not afford that option.
3. Old Challenger decks - This are very fun deck for skilled players, they around 25$ - 55$ at my local MTG store. Down side, hard for new players and would have to have a lot of patients with them to learn them.
Any one maybe have any other ides?
I'm likely to buy at least 2 of them if not all 4. Just to have a variety of options and the ability to play kitchen magic. It is a shame Golgari isn't competitive with the others but it is an option to use as a handicap.
Why no shock lands you ask? Value\Reprint equity. Adding them would have added $40 of value to the Izzet deck and $20 to the Golgari deck, meaning lots of places would have cracked them to sell as singles or charged way above MSRP (for as long as that lasts). Keeping out the shocks is an attempt to keep the product going to players rather than only to stores. And they can throw shocks into any product they want, any time, to sell just about anything. How much would people pay for Spellbook: Shocks? Especially if they drop the FTV foiling and had unique art!
The Golgari deck has a finisher though, the Wildgrowth Walker. once you get that out there and start Exploring, they get very big and difficult to deal with.
I really thought the mono red deck based on the list would be the most competitive of the 4.
Aren't some of those sets about to cycle out in a few months? Like core 2019? What would someone be recommended to do then? I'm just curious. Wait for next year's decks or try to find reprints for certain cards from the upcoming sets to still be able to use the deck? It might be a stupid question,idk.
I got vehicle rush last year and absoulty loved it! Will definitely be picking up at least one of these!
This has legit always been the best mtg channel imo.
I’ve cobbled together something that resembles arcane tempo over the last few weeks on arena. Sad that there’s no code included as that would have been a super big draw to purchase!
im definitely buying the Izzet and Mono Red decks.. That Izzet deck is basically my favorite shell of that deck and you can add a few cards here or there to make it into one of the top tier decks right now... Same thing with Mono-Red.. It's essentially the top tier Mono-Red deck minus Skewer the Critics and Light up The Stage... Can't wait to get that Izzet deck... CANNOT WAITTTTTT
I got lucky at my local game store they did and eventually where you pay 40 bucks get one deck of your choice and a few booater packs and join a tournament, I got arcane tempo cause I love both blue and red decks and I wanna try a Izzet drakes style deck.
I wish WotC would give the SEA region Arena codes in pre-release packs at least. None were in the packs for RNA, and I have doubts they'll put any in WAR as well.
I was waiting for this video. Thanks, Professor. Informative as always
Because of the cost of the cards in Arcane Tempo, my local shop put those decks behind the counter to try and lessen the chance of someone walking in just to buy and flip. Which I have to say, is very fair. To get the deck for retail and support the local shop is the way to go.
I normally buy my magic products at my local LGS, just happened to be at Target on the 11th the day before the challenger deck were suppose to be out. I saw the arcane tempo and the red aggro deck out for 30$ each and thought "what a steal before they come out."
I personally run a BG Golgari w/ a wild growth package with loathed giant as a finisher with poison tip arrow and Izorni as a back up. Then use mulderhulk as my main pressure endlessly getting it with memorial... also picking up Chubas and other things along the way as I need them.
Just picked up arcane tempo. Red blue decks make me feel nostalgia. Izzet was my first color pairing so I got it out of sentimentality. Player wise I figure with what's coming in war of the spark I feel it would be fun to try. I'm thinking after seeing the deck add a couple guttersnipes and an extra arclight Phoenix taking out one niv mizzet.
Love your vids Prof!! A few new friends are just getting into mtg and I was thinking of directing them to the Challenger decks.
Btw the low grade shows under the monowhite instead of the BG deck
On your old vid in 2014, can you do a revised version of the mono blue Tron deck? Or should I just buy the deck that you made in 2014? (:
going to grab the mono white deck and the izzet for my self and the aggro for a friend
My local game store sell arcane tempo for 40 dollars but sells Deadly for 30
I did play Lightning Aggro at fnm yesterday. Went 3-1.
The best with these decks are the attendence at LGS increases.
I havent played standard since Shadows and i wasent alone newcomer that friday.
These decks are awesome for the LGS!
I might pick up the white one to use at fnm until WOS comes out but honestly I'm a little bit disappointed that they actually did two of these in mono colors with all the hype of going back to Ravnica😞
I'd assume they'd be saving those for when the Ravnican sets are due to rotate out, as these are primarily for mopping up the rotating cards?
Honestly, if you want to get into paper magic, get two of these. Got the white wheenie and the mono red for 44€ total at my local game store, threw in a couple of sleeves and ended up paying 50€ total. That's roughly ≈14 Kebabs for comparison. Fair deal imo.