Been using the mic o loop for 2 years now. The smallest improvements and techniques make a huge difference and success rate. Thanks for sharing. Highly recommended.
Recently learned a needle nail knot using the C&F tool for micro leader which I was supergluing and would fail periodically. Luckily I would test it before fishing, rather it fail while fishing. And Mr. Olsen has another great alternative knot to try for micro leaders. I will compare the two for personal preference and how they perform under different circumstances. Thank You!
Great content like always. I've gone from a 20 lb butt section to a 15 and now I'm on a 8! I was skeptical about the 8 lb butt section due to it being hard to cast but I learned how to overcome it and now my hook-up rate has drastically increased.
Thanks a lot Devin. Finally got around to doing it and it was straight forward. I went with 16/0 veevus but it worked well. On to tying my leader for my mono core and as for my extra dollars it seems you get most of it
Hi Olson , I am a big fan of your nymphing tehniques , matter of fact I have all your books and videos . Suggestion : Back home in France , the old school anglers used always Acetone to remove fly line coating easily .
I've repaired floating lines, but needed to repair my Euro line loop as I'm going to try using the two different leaders you and Lance talk about in the "Nymphing Elevated" vid, which I finally bought and watched last week. The nail knot holding my micro leader was getting cut off. Wasn't sure how well my thought to repair the loop may work on the Euro line, and then came across this earlier today. As usual, you put forth great info in a concise video. Thanks!
I wonder if you have ever tried this? I do it with my regular fly line because I fish a mono rig so I wonder if it will translate. I DO NOT strip the line to expose the core but use a needle to expand the end of the fly line I then cut a diagonal into my leader material with something sharp I put super glue on the leader and jam it into the line. This should give you increased surface area it works in a regular fly line. It is pretty much seamless
Great Video: One question: Can I also whip finish around the braid core only and not any of the plastic? I'm wondering if any slippage would happen if I continued the whip around the plastic. Thanks much, and keep the videos coming? Toney
Thank you for taking the time for the videos. Just great information, truly enjoy it. I have a question if you can. When trying flies for Euro nymphing should we just use tungsten beads or should we also use brass beads. Thank you for what you do.
I never use brass beads for euro nymphing. They have some use for lake flies or sight fishing in very shallow water but they are rarely heavy enough to use for any nymphing except in the shallowest circumstances.
Given the current trend towards eliminating the loop-to-loop connection, maybe more so in the euro nymphing community, do you believe commercial euro lines will ever address this by creating a welded micro loop from the start? Are there any FIPS regulations that would prohibit certain connection types in a competition setting?
Rio already has a welded loop on their euro lines. It sucks. It’s way too thick to slide through guides. I’ve talked to other manufacturers who say they can’t make one small enough without it falling apart. There’s no fips rule against loops on the end of a fly line.
no loop should be trusted for very long. Learn the nail knot loop and this 1. learn to play fish outside the tip top before bringing the loop in for a netjob.
There’s no way to use the whip finish tool without removing the loop from the hook. I can’t do that without the thread unraveling and the loop falling apart.
@@brooktroutangler5917 You'd need to hold extremely close to the thread to keep the line and loop stiff enough to whip finish. I can't see getting that whole process without getting glue on fingers or having the loop unravel before whip finishing. pulling the thread end through the loop of tippet or bobbin threader is just whip finishing via another method so that's what's easiest for me. If you can find another way that's easier for you that's great.
I’ve used it for them myself. You may wish to make the thread section a bit longer and make sure it’s had a decent dose of superglue. It’s plenty strong though if done right.
Devon, Ever consider using plain old Pliobond to seal the end of the fly line? It's a lot more flexible than CA glues but takes a bit longer to dry. What about the flexible UV adhesives (I think Loon Knot Sense may be flexible)? Thanks!
Pliobond might work. I’ve tried aquaseal and it works when used sparingly. Uv resins, including knot sense, aren’t very sticky actually. They work well on smooth bodied flies but crack off eventually when used for the micro loop in my experience.
@@tacticalflyfisher3817 Thanks Devon. I was wondering if CA or any of the other rigid adhesives night crack. I have been using Pliobond for years for needle/nail knot to attach leader but to end of fly line. Now to get up enough practice to go towards micro leaders.
Ted, Airflo's Euro line does have a braid core I believe but it is likely their power core that they use in their other lines. That core tends to fray when you expose it so it would likely be difficult to use in a micro loop.
Pretty close. You can find the details in our film Adaptive Fly Fishing. vimeo.com/ondemand/adaptiveflyfishing www.tacticalflyfisher.com/adaptive-fly-fishing-strategies-for-diverse-water-types-dvd/
I love the channel and site. I purchased 2 of your videos in the past and I've learned a ton from you guys. Ever use a double uni knot to attach braided core fly line to thin leader butt? I'm on the coast here in NJ and use it to attach mono backing to braided line on the spinning reels I use for surfcasting. It's a strong, slim knot and similar in look to a blood knot. I bet the braided core would knot well to the thin mono leader butt. Super curious what you think. Thanks heaps!
Joe, If you're tying a uni knot (half of the double uni) in your fly line, I can't see how that wouldn't leave a lump that would catch in the guides. Maybe I'm not visualizing how you're using the knot correctly. This micro loop has worked very well for me after trying several other methods though so I don't have a reason to change at this point.
@@tacticalflyfisher3817 Hey, if it ain't broke don't fix it! I should have made this clearer. I meant using the double uni only after stripping the fly line coating off like you showed. So you'd be doing the double uni with braid core and the mono leader butt. Similar to how I do it on my surfcasting set ups. I'd think that'd leave a slim and strong connection. Just like how you can strip the coating off a mono core European nymphing line and blood knot the mono core straight to the mono leader butt. What do you think? Thanks for the quick reply!
@@JoeMairo You can certainly give it a try. You would have to strip the coating off each time to redo it though if you need to replace the leader or if the connection breaks.
Hi Devin the biggest hook I have is a size 8 streamer hook. Is that too small and would this work on a mono core line? I assume this loop is more steamlined than putting on a tippet ring. Is it ok to tie a clinch knot to this with micro leader?
On the monocore I peel off a piece of tp and tie a micro ring, you could also try to turn the tail over yourself and make a buttonhole melted with a hair dryer for stripping but I think it would remain a loop too large to use the nymph techniques
@@tacticalflyfisher3817 what kind of euro line can the micro loop be done with? I bought the Rio Technical Euro Nymph line but it seems extremely small. Can it still be done with that or is there a specific fly line to do that with?
If the line is never really on the water when euro nymphimg then you must not be getting into the fly line so why should it matter how easy it flows through the guides?
I guess all I can say is try a bumpy connection and you'll see. If your leader is around twice the length of your rod, that connection will be going through some of your guides on every cast.
I have a Euro nymph line with a mono core. Every knot Ive tried for attaching the leader tears the coating from the core, even an Albright knot. Will a micro loop work with this line? Any other idea would be hugely appreciated.
I haven't tried a micro loop with a mono core line but it should work especially if you apply some superglue to the thread while you wrap it and make the buried section of the core under the thread a bit longer. You could also try this method that I did a video on a few years ago. ua-cam.com/video/uwUMxNA5f7I/v-deo.html
Hey Devin, I am curious if you have ever had the loop break on this set up? I tried it for the first time last week and it worked great until I had to switch to a new leader. I tied it on with a clinch knot and when I gave it a gentle tug to test the knot the braid core snapped. Any thoughts? Thanks for all the amazing content, keep it up!
I had the thread unravel on a loop once but that is the only time I've had one break. I've never had the braid break myself. I would expect that to be an isolated incident in your cast but maybe your line's core has an issue. Which line are you using?
Hopefully it was just a freak accident. I just tied a loop knot in it and fished the rest of the day and the next with no issues. Just re-did the micro loop today. Haven't fished it yet but I'm not too worried :)
Neither. I use the Airflo Euro nymph line or Cortland Euro Nymph braid core level taper. You can find both at this link www.tacticalflyfisher.com/fly-fishing/fly-lines/euro-nymphing-lines/
The micro loop is only for euro nymphing lines that are to be held off the water. It will let water in your line so I would not use it for standard lines and leaders
@@tacticalflyfisher3817 thank you for replying. im just ordered cortland 0.22 nymphing level line like yours (braided) will be ok to do micro loop .im like to use for nymphing but line will come in contact with water anyway. Keep doing great video im learn lots. Thanx again
I use the same method as you but for safety with a sewing needle I join the braided with 2/3 passes before tying, lately I no longer use glue but a drop of Gulff Flexman
This is only for competition fishers I guess, since Euro Nymph Fly lines are inferior to dedicated super long leaders ( Hends 9m Camou French leader for instance ). I have my Camou directly connected to the backing. The knot never comes in the rings.
Cool idea... however, why can't you dip your exposed core loop in a wax or waterproofing solution... even dip it in crazy glue and let it soak into the fibers or UV glue to form a hard loop... or even put a tippet ring in it and then seal it up leaving the tippet ring open... even a simpler solution would be to dip it in WD40 which is a water repellent, or even just something like a cooking oil... there are so many options... and if you think about it... water getting into the braid should effect it anyway... even if you tie a knot in the end of your line, that knot is not going to be so tight as to cinch down on the braid to prevent water from wicking up it anyway... if anyone thinks I'm wrong, let me know...
The micro loop never touches the water since this is only for euro nymphing and the use of micro leaders. I don’t need it to be water repellent. I’ve tried the tippet ring and it’s not as smooth. If I’m connecting other leaders I use the superglue splice 2.0 that I previously did a video on.
@@tacticalflyfisher3817 the only reason I mentioned it is because you commented on not wanting to get water on the core... and not having gotten into euro nymphing yet, isn't it possible you "slip" and dunk your line into the water by accident or even a large fish runs with your line?...
@@williamghost1516 it doesn’t matter if your line gets a little water in it. You’re not using it to float anything as it is rarely even outside your guides. Most euro lines don’t even have much buoyancy in them so it’s not an issue. I don’t remember mentioning not wanting water in the line in the video. If I did I I meant to say it’s not an issue if you get water in it. If it was I wouldn’t choose this method.
Once the micro loop is made, the core is exposed and water can seep into the tip of the fly line easily. This will cause it to sink and make other methods where you want your fly line to float less effective. When Euro nymphing, your fly line won't be touching the water so it's not an issue.
I can replace the micro leader on the water easier this way. When using a micro leader, the end of the fly line can fray with a needle nail knot since the needle widens the line more than the diameter of the micro leader. The fray catches in the guides more than the micro loop.
Try using regular tying thread. I used these loops and caught numerous 10-18 pound steelhead with them in Alaska last month without having one break. In fact I’ve never had one break as long as the thread hasn’t unraveled.
Think the smooth Kevlar was the issue..too slick,, the uni thread has some bite to it and seems to be better..I guess if it fails over 12 lb my tippet will go first
It is unbelievable how much stuff you have hanging off your body. I will venture miles into the woods with enough gear to fish a variety of systems along with food. A single pack. And, from the looks of it, 1/4 to 1/3 of the gear. Seems very overkill. If it were on a different channel I would think this was a video to poke fun at fly fishers.
To each their own. I carry a lot of boxes with me plus camera gear so. I also have an old shoulder injury which makes it impossible to put weight on my left shoulder. So I split the weight between two packs. It works for me but obviously wouldn't for everyone.
Great tutorial.
I was one of the controllers in 2019, and I learnt a lot of great tips from watching and talking to the competitors
Thanks. And yep, there’s a lot that can be learned by watching good anglers.
Been using the mic o loop for 2 years now. The smallest improvements and techniques make a huge difference and success rate. Thanks for sharing. Highly recommended.
You’re welcome. Definitely lots of marginal gains to be had out there.
That whip finish was sick
I tied a micro loop on cortland mono core euro line. It works quite well. Been using it for the past months with no issues.
Glad to hear it works on the mono core as well.
Recently learned a needle nail knot using the C&F tool for micro leader which I was supergluing and would fail periodically. Luckily I would test it before fishing, rather it fail while fishing. And Mr. Olsen has another great alternative knot to try for micro leaders. I will compare the two for personal preference and how they perform under different circumstances. Thank You!
Give it a go Jeremy. I think you’ll like it.
Great content like always. I've gone from a 20 lb butt section to a 15 and now I'm on a 8! I was skeptical about the 8 lb butt section due to it being hard to cast but I learned how to overcome it and now my hook-up rate has drastically increased.
Going smaller is definitely a challenge at first but the smaller you can get the more benefits you'll see. Keep it up.
This is awesome! Thank you Devin! Especially the bit at the end 😂 I screw up in front on the camera more than I get it right lol.
Solid content, as always. I watched Crosston’s vid for using a similar loop to replace the tippet ring ... toward lighter, thinner. Thanks!
Pretty good little trick. I think I'm going to test that out and run my 2x sighter on the micro loop.
Great video Devin. My favorite part was the end...by far!
Gotta have a little fun.....
Thanks a lot Devin. Finally got around to doing it and it was straight forward. I went with 16/0 veevus but it worked well. On to tying my leader for my mono core and as for my extra dollars it seems you get most of it
We certainly appreciate Corey!
Hi Olson , I am a big fan of your nymphing tehniques , matter of fact I have all your books and videos .
Suggestion : Back home in France , the old school anglers used always Acetone to remove fly line coating easily .
Thanks for the support Tarik. I know about the acetone trick. The tippet is less smelly though and I have plenty of it around so I choose it instead.
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Found this really helpful Devin!
Cool Rhys. Thanks for watching.
Thanks Devin!
Very nice idea, thank you!
Glad you like it! Hope it helps.
I've repaired floating lines, but needed to repair my Euro line loop as I'm going to try using the two different leaders you and Lance talk about in the "Nymphing Elevated" vid, which I finally bought and watched last week. The nail knot holding my micro leader was getting cut off. Wasn't sure how well my thought to repair the loop may work on the Euro line, and then came across this earlier today. As usual, you put forth great info in a concise video. Thanks!
Glad it helped. Happy fishing.
This will help greatly..
Good video helped me a lot.
Glad it helped
Awesome. Thanks for this Devin.
You’re welcome
Awesome content. Thank you.
Thanks for watching
Super nice!!!
Thanks
looks like you're trying out some new packs in the last few videos. might be worthwhile to share your thoughts, pros/cons, that sort of thing
I’ll get there. I have a stack of tutorials and vlogs to edit first.
I wonder if you have ever tried this? I do it with my regular fly line because I fish a mono rig so I wonder if it will translate. I DO NOT strip the line to expose the core but use a needle to expand the end of the fly line I then cut a diagonal into my leader material with something sharp I put super glue on the leader and jam it into the line. This should give you increased surface area it works in a regular fly line. It is pretty much seamless
I've done several super glue splice tutorials previously
ua-cam.com/video/LLQbaYOQ2nA/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/16LbOCF_PqU/v-deo.html
Thanks Devin. When attaching a leader to a micro loop, is there a knot that you find works well, as far as not getting hung up in the guides? Thanks.
I use a double Davy or 16/20 knot. If you’re using thicker material then a regular unimproved clinch knot is fine.
NICE!
Great Video: One question: Can I also whip finish around the braid core only and not any of the plastic? I'm wondering if any slippage would happen if I continued the whip around the plastic. Thanks much, and keep the videos coming? Toney
You need to overlap with some of the plastic. If you only do the core, it will bend more easily and eventually it is more likely to unravel.
Thank you for taking the time for the videos. Just great information, truly enjoy it.
I have a question if you can. When trying flies for Euro nymphing should we just use tungsten beads or should we also use brass beads.
Thank you for what you do.
I never use brass beads for euro nymphing. They have some use for lake flies or sight fishing in very shallow water but they are rarely heavy enough to use for any nymphing except in the shallowest circumstances.
Given the current trend towards eliminating the loop-to-loop connection, maybe more so in the euro nymphing community, do you believe commercial euro lines will ever address this by creating a welded micro loop from the start? Are there any FIPS regulations that would prohibit certain connection types in a competition setting?
Rio already has a welded loop on their euro lines. It sucks. It’s way too thick to slide through guides. I’ve talked to other manufacturers who say they can’t make one small enough without it falling apart.
There’s no fips rule against loops on the end of a fly line.
no loop should be trusted for very long. Learn the nail knot loop and this 1. learn to play fish outside the tip top before bringing the loop in for a netjob.
Brilliant. Thanks for sharing! Question: what are you doing in the field if that connection fails?
I’ve never had one fail but I have a nail knot tool with me if it came to that.
Thanks.
great video thank you. Why not use a whip finish tool?
There’s no way to use the whip finish tool without removing the loop from the hook. I can’t do that without the thread unraveling and the loop falling apart.
@@tacticalflyfisher3817 dab of super glue pull tight then whip no?
@@brooktroutangler5917 You'd need to hold extremely close to the thread to keep the line and loop stiff enough to whip finish. I can't see getting that whole process without getting glue on fingers or having the loop unravel before whip finishing. pulling the thread end through the loop of tippet or bobbin threader is just whip finishing via another method so that's what's easiest for me. If you can find another way that's easier for you that's great.
What knot do you use to connect the leader to the micro loop?
A double davy or 16/20 knot
@@tacticalflyfisher3817 Thank you!
Will this loop hold a steelhead?
I’ve used it for them myself. You may wish to make the thread section a bit longer and make sure it’s had a decent dose of superglue. It’s plenty strong though if done right.
@@tacticalflyfisher3817 thx Devin!
Devon,
Ever consider using plain old Pliobond to seal the end of the fly line? It's a lot more flexible than CA glues but takes a bit longer to dry. What about the flexible UV adhesives (I think Loon Knot Sense may be flexible)?
Thanks!
Pliobond might work. I’ve tried aquaseal and it works when used sparingly. Uv resins, including knot sense, aren’t very sticky actually. They work well on smooth bodied flies but crack off eventually when used for the micro loop in my experience.
@@tacticalflyfisher3817
Thanks Devon. I was wondering if CA or any of the other rigid adhesives night crack. I have been using Pliobond for years for needle/nail knot to attach leader but to end of fly line.
Now to get up enough practice to go towards micro leaders.
Does Airflo's Euro line have a braided core? I would like to try this but will wait for an answer before cutting off the loop.
Ted,
Airflo's Euro line does have a braid core I believe but it is likely their power core that they use in their other lines. That core tends to fray when you expose it so it would likely be difficult to use in a micro loop.
Nice tip Devin, thanks. Question: What is that lanyard/flybox setup that you have in the video?
It’s a custom lanyard from golden trout lanyards.
Devin, what’s your micro leader setup you would configure nowadays? 4x monocore to the sighter to a tippet ring?
Pretty close. You can find the details in our film Adaptive Fly Fishing.
vimeo.com/ondemand/adaptiveflyfishing
www.tacticalflyfisher.com/adaptive-fly-fishing-strategies-for-diverse-water-types-dvd/
I love the channel and site. I purchased 2 of your videos in the past and I've learned a ton from you guys.
Ever use a double uni knot to attach braided core fly line to thin leader butt?
I'm on the coast here in NJ and use it to attach mono backing to braided line on the spinning reels I use for surfcasting.
It's a strong, slim knot and similar in look to a blood knot. I bet the braided core would knot well to the thin mono leader butt.
Super curious what you think. Thanks heaps!
Joe,
If you're tying a uni knot (half of the double uni) in your fly line, I can't see how that wouldn't leave a lump that would catch in the guides. Maybe I'm not visualizing how you're using the knot correctly. This micro loop has worked very well for me after trying several other methods though so I don't have a reason to change at this point.
@@tacticalflyfisher3817 Hey, if it ain't broke don't fix it!
I should have made this clearer.
I meant using the double uni only after stripping the fly line coating off like you showed.
So you'd be doing the double uni with braid core and the mono leader butt. Similar to how I do it on my surfcasting set ups. I'd think that'd leave a slim and strong connection.
Just like how you can strip the coating off a mono core European nymphing line and blood knot the mono core straight to the mono leader butt. What do you think? Thanks for the quick reply!
@@JoeMairo You can certainly give it a try. You would have to strip the coating off each time to redo it though if you need to replace the leader or if the connection breaks.
@@tacticalflyfisher3817 Awesome, thank you for your thoughts! Looking forward to whatever you and your crew put out next.
Going to give the miro loop try. Do you only recommend a clinch knot for the leader attach knot or will a improved clinch also work?
I recommend neither. I use a 16/20 or double Davy knot.
@@tacticalflyfisher3817 will definitely check these knots out and give them a go.
are you tying a loop knot on your micro leader for a loop to loop connection or a cinch knot onto the loop?
A double Davy or 16/20 knot
whats wrong with using a small nail knot? is the micro loop just a little bit less bulky?
The micro loop goes through the guides better. I’ve also had nail knots break more frequently with micro leader material.
would you still use this method for mono core?
No. There is an earlier video I did a few years back on a mono core connection. Basically I strip the coating and tie a blood knot.
Hi Devin the biggest hook I have is a size 8 streamer hook. Is that too small and would this work on a mono core line? I assume this loop is more steamlined than putting on a tippet ring. Is it ok to tie a clinch knot to this with micro leader?
I mostly use 8-12 streamers. I haven't tried the loop with a mono core line. You can tie a clinch knot. I prefer a 16/20 or double davy.
Devin great video. You did not mention the braided core fly line dimention ( Cortland 0.22 in or 0.17), and will Monocore work as well?
Bruce Duke
Cortland only makes a .022” braid core. The 0.017” is a mono core. I haven’t tried it with a mono core but it’s worth a shot.
On the monocore I peel off a piece of tp and tie a micro ring, you could also try to turn the tail over yourself and make a buttonhole melted with a hair dryer for stripping but I think it would remain a loop too large to use the nymph techniques
So can you just tie a regular clinch knot to the micro loop to connect your leader to it?
Yes. I normally use a double Davy or 16/20 knot but a clinch would work fine if that’s what you’re used to.
@@tacticalflyfisher3817 awesome. Thanks
@@tacticalflyfisher3817 what kind of euro line can the micro loop be done with? I bought the Rio Technical Euro Nymph line but it seems extremely small. Can it still be done with that or is there a specific fly line to do that with?
If the line is never really on the water when euro nymphimg then you must not be getting into the fly line so why should it matter how easy it flows through the guides?
I guess all I can say is try a bumpy connection and you'll see. If your leader is around twice the length of your rod, that connection will be going through some of your guides on every cast.
I have a Euro nymph line with a mono core. Every knot Ive tried for attaching the leader tears the coating from the core, even an Albright knot. Will a micro loop work with this line? Any other idea would be hugely appreciated.
I haven't tried a micro loop with a mono core line but it should work especially if you apply some superglue to the thread while you wrap it and make the buried section of the core under the thread a bit longer. You could also try this method that I did a video on a few years ago. ua-cam.com/video/uwUMxNA5f7I/v-deo.html
@@tacticalflyfisher3817 Thanks so much for the feedback!
@@tacticalflyfisher3817 And oh, duh! I guess I could just do that! I'm so stupid sometimes. Thanks, man!
Hi
Thank you for your awesome videos, how would you recommend a micro loop if a mono core
I’ve had customers do a micro loop with a mono core and they say it has worked from them but I haven’t tried it myself.
Great video!! Will this work on a mono-core line as well?
Haven’t tried it but it should.
Hey Devin, I am curious if you have ever had the loop break on this set up? I tried it for the first time last week and it worked great until I had to switch to a new leader. I tied it on with a clinch knot and when I gave it a gentle tug to test the knot the braid core snapped. Any thoughts? Thanks for all the amazing content, keep it up!
I had the thread unravel on a loop once but that is the only time I've had one break. I've never had the braid break myself. I would expect that to be an isolated incident in your cast but maybe your line's core has an issue. Which line are you using?
@@tacticalflyfisher3817 I am using a Scientific Anglers .025 shorty
@@22evansm so it’s the mono core and not a braid core correct?
@@tacticalflyfisher3817 no, its braid core. Their Mastery Series nymph line is mono core but this is braided
Hopefully it was just a freak accident. I just tied a loop knot in it and fished the rest of the day and the next with no issues. Just re-did the micro loop today. Haven't fished it yet but I'm not too worried :)
What kind of euro nymph line do you use rio or scientific angler
Neither. I use the Airflo Euro nymph line or Cortland Euro Nymph braid core level taper. You can find both at this link www.tacticalflyfisher.com/fly-fishing/fly-lines/euro-nymphing-lines/
Hi my fly line has got damaged after cople weeks am belive is absorb water. Any advice? Thanx miroslav
The micro loop is only for euro nymphing lines that are to be held off the water. It will let water in your line so I would not use it for standard lines and leaders
@@tacticalflyfisher3817 thank you for replying. im just ordered cortland 0.22 nymphing level line like yours (braided) will be ok to do micro loop .im like to use for nymphing but line will come in contact with water anyway. Keep doing great video im learn lots. Thanx again
I use the same method as you but for safety with a sewing needle I join the braided with 2/3 passes before tying, lately I no longer use glue but a drop of Gulff Flexman
Devin is there any special way that you connect the leader to fly line ?
See the rest of the comments Fred. I use a 16/20 or double Davy knot
This is only for competition fishers I guess, since Euro Nymph Fly lines are inferior to dedicated super long leaders ( Hends 9m Camou French leader for instance ). I have my Camou directly connected to the backing. The knot never comes in the rings.
Depending on the state, if you are fishing in "fly fishing only" waters, fishing without any fly line on your reel can be illegal.
Oh and what net is that you carry?
www.tacticalflyfisher.com/soldarini-competition-expert-net-rubber-mesh/
How’s about a micro nail knot
I’ve had them break a lot with micro leaders.
Cool idea... however, why can't you dip your exposed core loop in a wax or waterproofing solution... even dip it in crazy glue and let it soak into the fibers or UV glue to form a hard loop... or even put a tippet ring in it and then seal it up leaving the tippet ring open... even a simpler solution would be to dip it in WD40 which is a water repellent, or even just something like a cooking oil... there are so many options... and if you think about it... water getting into the braid should effect it anyway... even if you tie a knot in the end of your line, that knot is not going to be so tight as to cinch down on the braid to prevent water from wicking up it anyway... if anyone thinks I'm wrong, let me know...
The micro loop never touches the water since this is only for euro nymphing and the use of micro leaders. I don’t need it to be water repellent. I’ve tried the tippet ring and it’s not as smooth. If I’m connecting other leaders I use the superglue splice 2.0 that I previously did a video on.
@@tacticalflyfisher3817 the only reason I mentioned it is because you commented on not wanting to get water on the core... and not having gotten into euro nymphing yet, isn't it possible you "slip" and dunk your line into the water by accident or even a large fish runs with your line?...
@@williamghost1516 it doesn’t matter if your line gets a little water in it. You’re not using it to float anything as it is rarely even outside your guides. Most euro lines don’t even have much buoyancy in them so it’s not an issue. I don’t remember mentioning not wanting water in the line in the video. If I did I I meant to say it’s not an issue if you get water in it. If it was I wouldn’t choose this method.
Why don’t you recommend this for non European methods?
Once the micro loop is made, the core is exposed and water can seep into the tip of the fly line easily. This will cause it to sink and make other methods where you want your fly line to float less effective. When Euro nymphing, your fly line won't be touching the water so it's not an issue.
Why not just do a needle nail knot?
I can replace the micro leader on the water easier this way. When using a micro leader, the end of the fly line can fray with a needle nail knot since the needle widens the line more than the diameter of the micro leader. The fray catches in the guides more than the micro loop.
Damn things not that strong I tied 10 and I can pull them right apart with Kevlar thread and super glueambi expecting to much strength from it
Try using regular tying thread. I used these loops and caught numerous 10-18 pound steelhead with them in Alaska last month without having one break. In fact I’ve never had one break as long as the thread hasn’t unraveled.
Think the smooth Kevlar was the issue..too slick,, the uni thread has some bite to it and seems to be better..I guess if it fails over 12 lb my tippet will go first
It would be nice to actually see what you’re doing with the knot. That closeup was pointless
Your zoom is too close we miss half the video
It is unbelievable how much stuff you have hanging off your body. I will venture miles into the woods with enough gear to fish a variety of systems along with food. A single pack. And, from the looks of it, 1/4 to 1/3 of the gear. Seems very overkill. If it were on a different channel I would think this was a video to poke fun at fly fishers.
To each their own. I carry a lot of boxes with me plus camera gear so. I also have an old shoulder injury which makes it impossible to put weight on my left shoulder. So I split the weight between two packs. It works for me but obviously wouldn't for everyone.