Based on y’alls opinions being nearly identical to mine on this game PLEASE give Betrayal Legacy a try. I have no doubt y’all will LOVE the game! Some of my favorite moments from gaming come from the legacy game (on par with my moments in BSG which is my favorite game ever).
Betrayal is special to me because it was my gateway game; it was the first to show me how far board games have come from the likes of Monopoly and Risk. There are definitely plenty of problems with it, but it's still one of my favorites.
"But phones during board games are a huge pet peeve of mine... Play Mansions of Madness." How are you playing Mansions of Madness 2E without an app? :) I'm just messing around. This is a great review.
Just got 3rd Edition in hands, about to open it up. Put YT on in background and this popped up, enjoyed the intro last time so figured have it play in back ground as opening box. Love most the intros, so much so even when I have not time to watch a full video, will still watch intro at least, then return to video later when have time. Thanks for all the effort. Edit: Ed3 is much the same as Ed2 with brighter tiles, altered rules, but the scenarios (tried 2 For Sale haunts) with faster haunt starts it gets to good bits sooner (much like Legacy), much of game borrows from Legacy, but the scenarios add much more then it first seems. Dice feel better. Minis, hit and miss, Mansions of Madness has better character minis, and the lack of paint makes them feel like unneeded cost/change. We liked it so far, and if fan of Ed2, Ed3 is just buy sequel, if never played Ed2 it still better start cheaper and some haunts are sequels to Ed2. But Legacy is best Betrayal but being a legacy game can put off some.
I DO like this game for the most part EXCEPT the haunt. I've played 2 full playthroughs now, and both times people have come up with no rules for certain mechanics.
I love early and late haunts. They can change the game. An early haunt can be hilarious as it's super easy for the traitor to win and it almost feels like a slasher movie. A late haunt can feel like Horror action as the players run around all the weapons and items and walk all over the traitor. I think it's parts of Betrayal's designing trying to err on the side of randomness to create unique stories.
Hi. I just found your channel and now I'm watching trough few videos of yours I'm interested in. I have the same opinion on this game as you (7 / 10 is realy fair). Do you know that there exists a legendary-Version of of Betrayal? I think it's just a bit better than this version (so 8 / 10). The best part about the legendary-Version is that you can play it after you finished the campaign. Sorry for my bad english. Keep up the great work! Greetings from germany
hey! All I have heard of is the Betrayal Legacy version that lots of people want us to play :) We'll have to try that one out after virus situation settles!
I think 6/10 is about right. It's pretty fun/interesting, but the rulebook is poor, and last time we played we couldn't figure out how the haunt worked. Finding items is also very random (and not in a good way). I think less scenarios, with much clearer write ups, would be better if they ever do another edition.
I would personally love a 2nd edition of Betrayal... but I suppose that has been filled pu by betrayal at baldur's gate. Just have some bias here because of the theme and I own the expansion. The haunt can just be such a mess with casual players, also with all the hidden information! I've had so many games go really wackily with the item distribution ahah. Cheers! -Ashton
I think they had some quality control issues there. Our copy doesn't have those clips sliding around, but a friend's copy in the past had the sliding. Paperclips help!
Your reviews are so on point. I always worry when I take this out for new players, or people new to board games, and HOPE they dont become the traitor b/c I know they will struggle with their new rulebook all alone
Mman, I just haven't even thought of bringing out betrayal lately for this very reason. It's almost like I would take the extra time for DM'ing some type of horror one shot instead. But when Betrayal DOES work, its excellent! Cheers man! -Ashton
How awesome-a new friend is getting exposed to games. This title came up as one she’s interested in and you guys reviewed it! 😁 guaranteed to be an awesome review!
@@Shelfside I’ve seen 3rd edition at Target-it’s just an art change and maybe some component upgrades? I like the 2nd edition art more and already suped up my copy. 🙂
Based on y’alls opinions being nearly identical to mine on this game PLEASE give Betrayal Legacy a try. I have no doubt y’all will LOVE the game! Some of my favorite moments from gaming come from the legacy game (on par with my moments in BSG which is my favorite game ever).
Like earned for being a BSG fan.
Betrayal legacy was awful
Betrayal is special to me because it was my gateway game; it was the first to show me how far board games have come from the likes of Monopoly and Risk. There are definitely plenty of problems with it, but it's still one of my favorites.
Monopoly is terrible but Risk is awesome. The key to playing Risk is trying the variant rules.
"But phones during board games are a huge pet peeve of mine... Play Mansions of Madness." How are you playing Mansions of Madness 2E without an app? :) I'm just messing around. This is a great review.
I agree with anyone here who says try Betrayal Legacy: It is by far the best version of Betrayal to date!
Just got 3rd Edition in hands, about to open it up. Put YT on in background and this popped up, enjoyed the intro last time so figured have it play in back ground as opening box. Love most the intros, so much so even when I have not time to watch a full video, will still watch intro at least, then return to video later when have time. Thanks for all the effort.
Edit: Ed3 is much the same as Ed2 with brighter tiles, altered rules, but the scenarios (tried 2 For Sale haunts) with faster haunt starts it gets to good bits sooner (much like Legacy), much of game borrows from Legacy, but the scenarios add much more then it first seems. Dice feel better. Minis, hit and miss, Mansions of Madness has better character minis, and the lack of paint makes them feel like unneeded cost/change. We liked it so far, and if fan of Ed2, Ed3 is just buy sequel, if never played Ed2 it still better start cheaper and some haunts are sequels to Ed2. But Legacy is best Betrayal but being a legacy game can put off some.
Hey thanks for this! Forgot about 3rd ed too, need to get a review for it going! Cheers! -Ashton
I love this game
I DO like this game for the most part EXCEPT the haunt. I've played 2 full playthroughs now, and both times people have come up with no rules for certain mechanics.
yeah that has been a big bummer. We just got 3rd ed in our hands which hopefully will solve a lot of those wonky rules! Review coming soon -Ashton
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I love early and late haunts. They can change the game. An early haunt can be hilarious as it's super easy for the traitor to win and it almost feels like a slasher movie. A late haunt can feel like Horror action as the players run around all the weapons and items and walk all over the traitor. I think it's parts of Betrayal's designing trying to err on the side of randomness to create unique stories.
Hi.
I just found your channel and now I'm watching trough few videos of yours I'm interested in.
I have the same opinion on this game as you (7 / 10 is realy fair).
Do you know that there exists a legendary-Version of of Betrayal?
I think it's just a bit better than this version (so 8 / 10).
The best part about the legendary-Version is that you can play it after you finished the campaign.
Sorry for my bad english.
Keep up the great work!
Greetings from germany
hey! All I have heard of is the Betrayal Legacy version that lots of people want us to play :)
We'll have to try that one out after virus situation settles!
Want to balance out when the haunt happens? Use the “Haunt Roll” rules from Betrayal At Baldur’s Gate. The haunt absolutely can not happen too early.
I think 6/10 is about right. It's pretty fun/interesting, but the rulebook is poor, and last time we played we couldn't figure out how the haunt worked. Finding items is also very random (and not in a good way). I think less scenarios, with much clearer write ups, would be better if they ever do another edition.
I would personally love a 2nd edition of Betrayal... but I suppose that has been filled pu by betrayal at baldur's gate. Just have some bias here because of the theme and I own the expansion.
The haunt can just be such a mess with casual players, also with all the hidden information! I've had so many games go really wackily with the item distribution ahah. Cheers! -Ashton
how do you keep your character card clips from sliding all over the place ?? I can barely look at it without all the stat clips shifting.
I think they had some quality control issues there. Our copy doesn't have those clips sliding around, but a friend's copy in the past had the sliding. Paperclips help!
Your reviews are so on point. I always worry when I take this out for new players, or people new to board games, and HOPE they dont become the traitor b/c I know they will struggle with their new rulebook all alone
Mman, I just haven't even thought of bringing out betrayal lately for this very reason. It's almost like I would take the extra time for DM'ing some type of horror one shot instead. But when Betrayal DOES work, its excellent! Cheers man! -Ashton
How awesome-a new friend is getting exposed to games. This title came up as one she’s interested in and you guys reviewed it! 😁 guaranteed to be an awesome review!
sweet! We can't wait for the new edition too, as long as you can take care of the jank this is still fun! -Ashton
@@Shelfside I’ve seen 3rd edition at Target-it’s just an art change and maybe some component upgrades? I like the 2nd edition art more and already suped up my copy. 🙂
@@justacynic From what I've read, it fixes a lot of the haunt jank that we had some issues with, can't wait to review it :) -ashton