the "creator" of this device stole the product from horl. A german company that has a patent. This is a clear patent breach, and that's why it's sold only in U.S.
How are you not more popular? I was looking for reviews on this thing and got exaclty was I was looking for. Very professional, honest review with insight into using it too. You definitely deserve more attention from this platform
The German company HORL that invented this system (and that has taken legal action) has a bunch of useful accessories and the ability to swap out the discs for finer and coarser grinding. It's more money, but it might be a better long term investment, particularly if these guys lose their legal battle and go tits up.
oof, I just looked up that HORL company's product and the Tumblr product looks like a direct copy. I will definitely be going with the original now. Thanks for the comment.
The fact that your comment isnt liked by the channel speaks plenty about this 'review', plenty of liked comments by the channel yet one mentioning shady stuff done by the TUMBLER isnt. Isnt doing sponsorships without disclosing it illegal?
I know this ain't some high population field of audience but this is a great review. I really appreciate how professional you made it versus others and how simple and clean your explanations are. While it may not be the most rewarding thing, I greatly appreciate your review.
Thank you very much. I appreciate that. I just present things I work with or topics I think would be interesting to the cooking and bbq community. Hope you enjoy my other past and upcoming videos. Appreciate you watching. J
@@UkuleleJayBBQ Please make sure to note the original inventor, horl. Man behind this knock-off breached the patent and is hiding behind U.S. paperology.
No doubt with your comments. He gave a GREAT review and hit the things I was thinking about. I also would like to see some different grits. Spot on review for what I was looking for. Thank you.
This is a cheap knock-off of the original german HORL sharpener. They have different models and grits to choose from and accessories to modify your sharpener. Don't get this fake one.
Thanks. Iam from Germany and wanted to import the tumbler. Now I know that I can buy a better one for the same price located in my freakin country lel 😂
@@haklbarry2 same thing here.. im from Slovenia tho. Im already waiting for my order to arrive :) its not as cheap but at least is legit and no need to import from overseas.
Thanks a million. I have many more videos coming and the next one will be this weekend on the HONE diamond disc rolling sharpener and the new accessories kit that was just provide to me this week to test.
I really appreciate this review. I don't really have a necessity for kitchen knives but I do have a plethora of pocket knives. And I like to switch it up but not all my blades are sharp so I'm really considering getting this system. I like to use different edc knives everyday. Again thanks!
I thought about it, but that magnetic guide is far too chonky for most pocket knives. Most people are too lazy to make their own angle guides at a smaller size
Work Sharp Precision Adjust would probably be a better system for pocket knives, and cheaper ($120usd) than this Horl, and comes with 7 different grits of diamond stones, and strop. This Horl system doesn 't seem like it would be as fun on shorter length and shorter width pocket knife blades. Makes sense for large kitchen knives though. The Worx is decent, I like it better than my Apex Edge which was much more expensive. But I have a Tormek T-4 I really enjoy using, especially putting the initial edge on a knife I've made.
@@hazepheno925 thanks for your input. Yes pocket knives are near impossible on this style. I have some pocket knifes and agree. I have a new Precision Elite and Ken Onion coming so I look forward to using those and showing how they work on pocket knives. Do you see custom knives or just make your own for yourself?
Thanks for the review, I think I'll buy it next paycheck. I love cooking, I need sharp knives. I used a whetstone before, but I don't care to learn. If the knife cuts a tomato, is good enough.
I’d use that money and get the Work Sharp MK2 power sharpener. More options for various grits. This one is only one grit. It definitely works but very limited for 100 bucks.
@@BloPsy__ I didn’t specify whose original idea. Are you sure Tumblr doesn’t have a licensing agreement with Horl or that Tumblr isn’t a Horl subsidiary?
@@BloPsy__ I see Horl has the identical item for sale, (at twice the price.) Thank you for the information. I wish I had known about it before I bought the Tumbler. I shall try to follow the legal action by Horl. Thank you for the information.
Just an FYI - I received the Tumbler and was quite disappointed because both sides of the magnet holder would not hold any knife even reasonably well so that it wouldn't move during sharpening. Even without using the sharping roller even the smallest of knives barely held on, no matter what was its steel composition from high carbon to stainless. I work with magnets daily and I took Gauss meter readings of the Tumbler magnet block and it was quite weak. I sent back the Tumbler for a refund. I was also surprised that Tumbler didn't even comment on the weak magnet issue, or offer a replacement.
Hi there, before and after on one my hand position may have been different on one but before and after watch the Hexclad is the same. There is no trickery here if that's what you are looking for. Watch my other videos, lots of them, held the same way. The BESS Tester is the real test (see my video on paper tests). That's not a "sharpness test" that's a apex feel test. The BESS tester shows you the real sharpness which I do on all my recent videos, this was a year ago. This should never be called a "sharpeness" test but has been adopted as such.
Thank you very much. A new company is coming to market with what looks like it will be much improved over this with multiple grits and will do very small knives with very ingenious sharpening holder device. Looks killer! Another rolling sharpener on the way!
Only 1 grit. 2000ish. The other side is a groove smooth steel they say is to hone but if’s really to remove a burr and is flat and smooth so I would not use that side for true honing. The HONE sharpener comes with a 400 and 1000 grit and will have numerous other grit discs which easily put on and taken off. Have you seen my HONE videos?
This is a very old video and I have done many updates. For curved blades I use the HONE (I have many videos on that) and if super curved I use the Work Sharp Precision Adjust Elite.
On smaller ones it is hard the magnets are not strong enough in my opinion to hold the blade edge up higher without it falling down and move if you apply pressure. Something with a fat blade like a Civivi Baby Banter maybe but I would definitely use my Work Sharp Precision Adjust Elite for my smaller pocket knives like 3 inch or smaller EDCs. While they may show that, you definitely won’t get the blade by the heel as the roller may hit the handle. Just depends but definitely designed more for kitchen knives a 3-4” pairing knife is probably the smallest. If it had stronger magnets as I have heard the HORL system has, then maybe.
Not sure of an exact one. I know a knifesmith and he uses powered wheels, powered belts and whetstones. Not sure what professional does or does not encompass.
There is a new company with a new rolling sharpener I am reviewing. It is far above and beyond this. It is out of Canada and maybe you’ll be able to order it. All the info will be posted in the review. Review should be posted by end of the week.
I would not use this on anything now that the HONE sharpener has made this obsolete. The HONE will also have a follow up product which allows you to adjust many angles using the same base so that will be really something. Check out The Tumbler Or Hone Rolling Sharpener - Which One Is Better? ua-cam.com/video/58-RSgMwf60/v-deo.html and BEST HIGH END ROLLING KNIFE SHARPENER REVIEW. IS THE HONE THE NEW KING ROLLING KNIFE SHARPENER? ua-cam.com/video/fOE8BW1g4LAp/v-deo.html
I just received mine this morning. There are several well thought out features however, after several hours of sharpening just two knives, one one them a high end Japanese single sided kitchen knife the diamond edge was worn to the point that it was only honing the edge….. not cutting it. Two, the single diamond end is not even close to coarse enough to effectively “ train/ cut” knives into the 15/20 angle. Trust me, it would take hours and hours to make the initial angle creations on just a few of your knives. Great idea, quite expensive for such a disappointing result. This company needs to offer 1-3 more aggressive gritted heads for all of us out here in the real world.
Thank you for the informative comment. I agree with you completely. There needs to be a process of desks not just one desk. I do fine for my knives that are sharp that have slowly gotten doll using the Tumblr does let me bring it back to a nice sharp edge, but for extremely dull knife, as you’ll see in one of my videos, it take me forever to get there and after a long time I wasn’t able to really get it super sharp. For all my main sharpening I use WorkSharp and will be releasing a series on those sharpeners which have numerous options and at lower prices. For the price of a Tumbler you can get the new Worksharp 2 belt sharpener with 6 different grits I believe of unlimited grit third party belts.
Please return it. It's a cheap copy with bloated price, and while man behind this "thinks" it's forever, it's not. It will wear out, and horl, the patent holder for these, is giving you replacements. Please don't support stealing.
Imo I really like this system been using it for little over a month and it's worked everytime. I also believe people who hate on this product also aren't using it properly, using it enough or they just like to talk non sense. Again this is my opinion so all you softies out there don't get too butt hurt by my opinion.
I heard they sold out which isn’t surprising. As far as “knock off” I can only say the Tumbler appears to be externally very similar. The honing side is completely different between the two based on external appearance. I have no idea how either looks internally.
Hello Shaverklan Thanks a million, appreciate you watching my videos and hope you are subscribed with that notification bell ;-) 20° is used on Hexclad.
As someone that had cooked his entire life but never really sharpened my kitchen knives much, would you recommend that I learn to use a whetstone or try this tumbler system? I have a Mayabi that will inevitably need sharpened soon as well as other cheaper knives. Any feedback is appreciated!!!
Hi Kyle. A whetstone takes quite a bit of practice. The Tumbler is one grit only so it’s limited. For the price I think there are better sharpeners with a lot more grit options. I have other reviews and will be posting many more with products from Work Sharp. Take a look at my recent review on the Angle Knife sharpener. I will be reviewing the Elite by Work Sharp as well as the Kitchen Pro and Ken Onion sharpeners. I have used the Kitchen Pro for years and it’s powered with excellent blade angle guides for 15 and 20 degree knife blades. I really like their products for price and the ability to use various grit belts (including a leather strop belt or for the Elite, a leather strop plate. I am a chef so I am always sharpening and realized it’s a big need.
@UkuleleJayBBQ Awesome!! Thank you so much for the replay and leading me in a better path. It is very much appreciated as I would rather not damage my prized chefs knives. There are so many options that I sort of got overwhelmed when researching. This helps alot!!
@@kylekincaid1668 I know what you mean! I should be posting three more reviews in the Work Sharp series of sharpeners and I think you may like those a lot. One manual and two electric. They are the top of their sharpening line with all the bells and whistles. The most expensive is only 140 buck and has TONS of options.
This device, same as the one it's copied from, claims to make sharpening knives easier, but in fact it doesn't. You need two hands to press the magnetic holder and the blade against each other att the same time you need to pay attention to apply even pressure and roll the sharpener along the full length of the edge. Not to mention that fixing the blade edge-up is pretty dangerous, and that the two-piece design takes up more storage space. A decent whetstone is much cheaper, way easier to handle and to store away.
All these device are quite safe actually. A weak magnet makes it less safe. A whetstones takes a lot of practice and many non-knife folks do not want that. These devices allow correct angle consistency without worry. It’s a great concept when executed correctly.
There was a bit of misinformation in this video. An actual steel.... STEEL will not sharpen or take metal away from a knife. They are called honing steels. A ceramic steel will in fact sharpen and take metal away. Not hating on the video just want to clear that up for peeps that don't know the difference.
I have a three-way comparison shoot coming out soon, which will answer your question. Make sure to subscribe and hit that notification bell so you don’t miss it.
Copyed German Design and the System is ok for basic sharpening, but man what about the tipp? Or curved knives coonvex or concave. Not the best System but simple for a quick use on normal day use knifes
Yes tips are definitely not a strong point but the target market appeara to be non knife sharpening folks who just need to retouch up a knife. Definitely not for all knives and only one grit which is very fine.
Hi there, based on the knife manufacture specifications. Used to be Western kitchen knives were 20 and Eastern (Asia) were 15. I am finding many now in the U.S. have been releasing 15°. I email the manufacture and they let you know.
@@UkuleleJayBBQ Hey there, here in Germany I guess we mostly have common knives. But all of the knives from my Granny are old dulled up so I was thinking about maybe saving some money to buy Tumblr :)
@@SasukeGER If you want to save money you might want to wait for my WorkSharp knife sharpener series that will be coming out soon with some really great sharpeners. For the same price as Tumbler you can get an awesome power belt sharpener with all the grits you would need and it will sharpen in 1/10 the time.
@@SasukeGER If you are from germany, great, support your country, and buy horl instead. This idea was patented in your country, and one presented here is illegal copy.
Disclaimer: I sharpen knives and other tools professionally using the Tormek T-8 system exclusively with a total cost of over $2,500 for the extra diamond stones and most of the jigs. While the OP has taken time to post this video, I feel as though it's a plug for this tumbler system. I would never pay that exhorbitant amount for a limited system that has so many user variables in producing a quality edge. Having said that, NEVER hone a bevel until both have been ground....this is so incorrect information. And, listening to the sound of the knife passing through the paper, I'm not impressed with the sharpness quality. The sound should be almost inaudible on a truly sharp knife. The correct sequence of sharpening for a quality edge is as follows: 1. Grind one bevel till a burr is felt on the opposite bevel. 2. Grind the opposite bevel until a smaller burr is felt on the first side you ground. 3. Hone the bevel with the smaller burr first till you feel a tinier bevel on the opposite side. 4. Hone the tiny bevel till no burr is felt on either side. 5. Steps 3 and 4 may need to be repeated. 6. Strop both bevels. 7. Scope both bevels (if you have one) for looks only...i.e. that "polished" look. Not really neccessarry, it's just a visual thing. 8. Repeat step six if you really need to for looks. You can thank me later😁
I use the Tormek T1 primarily for my quick honing and sharpening needs and for all kitchen knives, cleavers thst’s all you need for $375.00 U.S. gets razor blade sharpness with only the 600grit Diamond conical wheel and honing wheel.
@@arthurjosse5414 Make the wood block and put 2 magnets on it. That will hold the knife. Instead of a roller, use a block of wood. I would call it a slider. Use any size grit sand paper that you want. If it's not sliding that well, put down some talcum powder. Easy, and cheap.
@@davidfoxrn sandpaper doesn't create a burr at that angle, and wood isn't straight or hard enough to get a clean edge especially after you cut it. probably great to make butter knives tho.
I was not paid nor asked to do a review. The down side is it’s not good on pocket knives and is only 1 grit as of now. It definitely will not repair a damaged and chipped knife blade either and is only 15 or 20° so really made for just kitchen knives and cleavers. Otherwise it does work great on knives that are dull from just normal use in my opinion. For the price I think there are other good options and I’ll be comparing those in the coming weeks once my BESS tester arrives.
Ceramic is an abrasive. If it doesn't remove metal, why is it turning black? There's different grits of ceramic and that rod is indeed abrasive, just a fine one.
My guess is that when you hone your knife using a ceramic rod you’re realigning the edge of a used dull knife. Dull knifes will be stained after being used for a while so that’s probably what gets left on the ceramic rod
If it wasn't a knock off, it would be nice... Edit: For people wondering, Tumbler is 1:1 copy of the German Horl sharpener, which is patented worldwide.
@@BloPsy__ So anyone who makes a new version of something is now a thief? Good luck explaining that to every artist,scientist or anyone else that thinks of an original idea. Closed minded thinking like that is why we will be led to monopolies that get passed through law…
If you are in Europe: you can think about getting the original Design Inventor HORL, they are more expensive, but I think after import fees probably even cheaper than the Tumbler (which is now facing legal trouble, as they infringe the HORL patents)
man they must have paid you a lot of money for this. Not a negative thing to say really, and your use of language was very biased toward being positive. Left the box in the background the whole time and everything.
Didn’t pay me a dime, and for what it is as a single grit roller it worked and was super easy to use. Funny how when someone is positive on something people like you think it’s all paid. I have news for you, some of us actually like things we try and use. SHOCKING!
@@neonsilver1936 thanks. Definitely better options for “sharpening” which I will showing in my upcoming Work Sharp sharpeners series. Also not paid 😎👊🏻
Hi There, no this was not sponsored. I did this on my own as I was really impressed. I did another one recently on sharpening a super dull Cutco knife as well. Thanks for watching, and appreciate the question.
The paper test is pretty bad. Even a semi decently sharpened knife will succeed on the paper test. I just tested these tumbler rollers myself and the grit they have is something akin to 300-350. Without going to a higher grid you really miss out on sharpening those knifes. Yes they will succeed on the paper and nail test, but the moment you cut something like a tomato you will feel that the edge is lacking. Over all these tumblers are far too expensive for the fact they are angled block with magnets and a rather small diamond stone and a stainless steel plate connected via wood or a stainless cylinder, obviously not forgetting the bearings. If you got like a second tumbler in the set that had higher grids on them it would be okay, but for a small diamond stone plate in only a 300-350 grid that only really forms the basic geometry of the edge they are too expensive. For the price you could get a stone set that you also use too sharpen tools like chisels. You could get a lansky sharpener that clamps you knife/blade and allows you a wide degree of angles and is also fast in sharpening.
Hey Paul wow long time!! No way! I still play and have 2 of Alan’s now along with the entire collection. Even play and post in some of my Instagram posts 🤘🏼😎
Ok so me and my best friend run a highly respected restaurant " he's the owner" . He bought this junk and we have followed the directions for weeks now and this is crap ..what sucks even more is he ran a knife booth selling knives at trade shows. Junk junk junk. Don't count on this unless you want to waste time when ya need a sharp prep knife. And we run a BBQ restaurant .....junk...junk....junk
I would never use this at a restaurant. Your friend needs the Tormek T2 or T1. I am posting sharpening a cleaver on the T1 tomorrow. This is for knives that need heavy honing but takes FOREVER on extremely dull blades. Tormek all the way for any commercial or pro kitchens.
You may not but I am a personal chef and do events. My last one I had to slice 16 tri-tips by hand and I needed to hone my knife so this with the 3000 Ceramic would be awesome. Had a ceramic honing rod but this provides the perfect honing angle. Doing a large event in Oct and I will have this with me for sure. I do not like honing steel rods.
It's a really good tool for sharpening knives but it cost 100$ you could buy a worksheet for 30 bucks cheaper and it does the same thing just as easy it's a great tool but four hundred bucks I wouldn't buy it but if you want to buy it go ahead I'm just talkin for me
Agree the HORL at $500 is a premium and at that price you could buy some of the best belt sharpeners. I think the no power option, this style wins over a lot of sharpeners when it comes to a “learning curve” such as. Whetstones or even the angular sliding sharpeners you have to assemble.
This is an ad those sharpeners arent rly good. I belive the first of this was "horl" or somthing like this and it is ok but japanesen waterstones are so much better and is u want smt fast ... get some Automatik sharpener
I will agree whetstones are fantastic but I don’t “believe” better is an accurate comparison. I believe if we had the selection of grits like a whetstone this would come very close. 2000 grit whetstone and 2000 grit of this style you will get a more consistent angle with this style it would appear but I am no knife sharpening expert. Just a fan of my kitchen knives.
This looks so shady, blade is wobly as hell, nothing keeps it in place when pressure is applied, and this system is not suitable at all when re-profiling a blade as no way it will keep the blade in place and maintain that angle. Otherwise fancy looking system.
Agree on most points. It does get some movement and I had hold to hold the handle down to prevent a little movement but it really does work, definitely no for re-profiling. Best system for me is the Work Sharp line.
@@kirkdurkadurkathat's awesome. If you start with a knife that isn't chipped, warped or damaged I have found it does extremely well. Most of all my knives are now razor sharp using it. Definitely works!! I need to do that butter knife video for sure ;)
@@kirkdurkadurka Well, realistically, you can sharpen *everything* into the sharpest edge possible for a bit. Get something sharp is all about the effort and technique you put into it. Whether the butter knife will retain that edge is more of the question and greatly depends on the grade of steal. So I can see how it got the butter knife to that sharpness, but wouldn't be surprised if it lost that edge quite quickly as well.
These are just sanders. Blocks and leather straps are better. Save yourself the money your blades will last longer and you went spend a ton on a gimmick
I was not aware HORL even existed until this review video. This is a review and I stand by my findings. It works very well. I am sure with the HORL 2 and the removable discs that would be the cat's meow but at $500.00 I like my belt sharpener which takes 180 to 8000 grit belts. Fastest and sharpest I have ever been able to get a knife and works with tiny pocket knives as well.
It is unpaid. NO ONE pays me for a review. I wish comments like yours were from educated viewers who don’t have to just say something for the sake of seeing yourself in writing and don’t know the facts at all.
It is pricey compared to other sharpeners with much more flexibility and features. Will be posting the entire line of Work Sharp sharpeners which I really love.
Gotta say, I’ve never heard anyone else use the fingernail test. I’ve been telling my cooks for years, run it over your thumbnail and if it makes the base of your nuts tingle, it’s sharp. Not sure what to elk the ladies🤣
Well, I have done it for years and for me it works! When I have nothing to test or paper or food, the good old fingernail grab will tell me at least I have a working blade ;-)
Just want you to know that the Hexclad knife is a complete rip off of the Smaragd knife from 140 year old Norwegian brand Øyo. The disrespect from Hexclad lol.
Scam. FWIW, this seems to be an unlicensed knockoff of the original HORL 2 sharpening system that was created by Otmar & Timo Horl: ua-cam.com/play/PLwnHRvfb07m8dq5hx-39Q7PI9RZay4x94.html The real one doesn't cost a lot more, and, if you upgrade to the HORL 2 Walnut or Pro models, you can swap the end discs for even better sharpening. (The Pro model has 3:1 internal gears to spin the discs three times faster than the body!)
Hi Keith, it’s not a scam. It works exactly as advertised. I would be happy to test out the HORL if they asked me but there is no scam going on. If you mean they copied a design or concept then it does look nearly identical but so do tons of things these days. This is does not appear to be close to the price. $89 v $189 for the basic without interchangeable discs is 100% more expensive from what I have seen. The HORL is more expensive but the removable discs and that gearing would be something I would love to get my hands on to test and definitely would be worth more for a 3 disc set but for the 3 interchangeable discs at nearly $500.00 for HORL it certainly opens the market to others doing it for much much less and that's just how the widget industry goes. Without and International Patent anyone can engineer and identical design in another country. It's done to U.S. Manufactures all the time. Not sure on the patent status and that's not the point of this video. It's merely a review. I have no ties or relationship to Tumbler but I do like it especially for , it works as it should and feels like a very quality product. That’s my opinion.
@@KeithOlson But just to be clear... The "Cruise" is only 20 degrees. In fact, that might be where Tumbler ends up getting away with it. On pure technicality. Compare one whetstone set to another. What makes the difference. If I were HORL I'd definitely take them to court if they have a case.
@@UkuleleJayBBQ this brand is a pure copy of the first version. They know it. Because they limit the marketing to only to USA, in Europe they risk criminal prosecution.
According to Tumbler it’s building a more affordable product which is done by companies all the time while not violating any legal IP rules. The mechanism inside is patent pending for Tumbler in the U.S. There is no product confusion in my video. The video is clearly about The Tumbler and does not mention any other products. No one is confused this is a Tumbler Product by the company tumbler but your point is well taken. I do not have any other product like this with hands on experience so I cannot factually make any comparison between another comparable product but I can say it is sold, and appears very well built and works well. I am not promoting anything. I am not paid for any videos. I just tell it like I see it. Good or bad.
Hey I am with you my family is from Freiburg so I gotta choose Horl over tumbler. Sadly marketing wins. At the end of the day Tumbler has better marketing.
This man deserves to be more popular
Thank you so much!
the "creator" of this device stole the product from horl. A german company that has a patent.
This is a clear patent breach, and that's why it's sold only in U.S.
Don't buy this.
It's a scam and won't deliver.
They take your money and rip you off.
How are you not more popular? I was looking for reviews on this thing and got exaclty was I was looking for. Very professional, honest review with insight into using it too. You definitely deserve more attention from this platform
Thank you so much. I have many more reviews coming. I really appreciate that. I am just a small fish in a big ocean. Appreciate every new follower!
The German company HORL that invented this system (and that has taken legal action) has a bunch of useful accessories and the ability to swap out the discs for finer and coarser grinding. It's more money, but it might be a better long term investment, particularly if these guys lose their legal battle and go tits up.
worst part is ive seen a plastic version of a rolling sharpener in a store.
I have the HORL2 and it works like a charm.
No need for the geared version. Use the money for additional discs.
oof, I just looked up that HORL company's product and the Tumblr product looks like a direct copy. I will definitely be going with the original now. Thanks for the comment.
The fact that your comment isnt liked by the channel speaks plenty about this 'review', plenty of liked comments by the channel yet one mentioning shady stuff done by the TUMBLER isnt. Isnt doing sponsorships without disclosing it illegal?
@@keldon1137 what
I very mutch like the calm process of this video compared to the fast paced reviews, keep it up.
Thank you so much! More on the way. Hope you subscribed and thanks for taking the time to watch 🙏🏼
Awesome video and review! Thank you!
@@HarryManback46and2 thank you, greatly appreciate that!
I know this ain't some high population field of audience but this is a great review. I really appreciate how professional you made it versus others and how simple and clean your explanations are. While it may not be the most rewarding thing, I greatly appreciate your review.
Thank you very much. I appreciate that. I just present things I work with or topics I think would be interesting to the cooking and bbq community. Hope you enjoy my other past and upcoming videos. Appreciate you watching. J
@@UkuleleJayBBQ Please make sure to note the original inventor, horl.
Man behind this knock-off breached the patent and is hiding behind U.S. paperology.
No doubt with your comments. He gave a GREAT review and hit the things I was thinking about. I also would like to see some different grits. Spot on review for what I was looking for. Thank you.
This is a cheap knock-off of the original german HORL sharpener. They have different models and grits to choose from and accessories to modify your sharpener. Don't get this fake one.
I like what they have but Damn they are expensive G
Thanks. Iam from Germany and wanted to import the tumbler. Now I know that I can buy a better one for the same price located in my freakin country lel 😂
@@haklbarry2 same thing here.. im from Slovenia tho. Im already waiting for my order to arrive :) its not as cheap but at least is legit and no need to import from overseas.
@@Parkii14 yea considering the import fees its not even more expensive. And if I need some else I don't have to import. Hf with yours
Exactly what I came here to say
Thanks for the simple yet effective review, and reaching out to the manufacturer for additional details.
Keep it up! Just subscribed!
Thanks a million. I have many more videos coming and the next one will be this weekend on the HONE diamond disc rolling sharpener and the new accessories kit that was just provide to me this week to test.
This channel deserves more subscribers and views. You are beyond professional in your review.
Thank you so much. I wish everyone would think that and follow!😎 Appreciate you!
Thank you Jay! Appreciate the quick to the point and short review
My pleasure John.
03:34 When you cut the paper, you can actually hear it's not sharp enough. It sounds coarse, where it should have a finer sound.
I really appreciate this review. I don't really have a necessity for kitchen knives but I do have a plethora of pocket knives. And I like to switch it up but not all my blades are sharp so I'm really considering getting this system. I like to use different edc knives everyday.
Again thanks!
My pleasure. I have not done my pocket knives yet, but they are next!
Get the original better quality HORL sharpener. This is a cheap knock-off
I thought about it, but that magnetic guide is far too chonky for most pocket knives. Most people are too lazy to make their own angle guides at a smaller size
Work Sharp Precision Adjust would probably be a better system for pocket knives, and cheaper ($120usd) than this Horl, and comes with 7 different grits of diamond stones, and strop. This Horl system doesn 't seem like it would be as fun on shorter length and shorter width pocket knife blades. Makes sense for large kitchen knives though.
The Worx is decent, I like it better than my Apex Edge which was much more expensive. But I have a Tormek T-4 I really enjoy using, especially putting the initial edge on a knife I've made.
@@hazepheno925 thanks for your input. Yes pocket knives are near impossible on this style. I have some pocket knifes and agree. I have a new Precision Elite and Ken Onion coming so I look forward to using those and showing how they work on pocket knives. Do you see custom knives or just make your own for yourself?
Proceeds to rip the paper... "Super clean cut!"
Solid video, great channel! Keep up the good work, my man!
Thank you so much Shawn! I really appreciate that!
Thanks for the review, I think I'll buy it next paycheck.
I love cooking, I need sharp knives. I used a whetstone before, but I don't care to learn. If the knife cuts a tomato, is good enough.
I’d use that money and get the Work Sharp MK2 power sharpener. More options for various grits. This one is only one grit. It definitely works but very limited for 100 bucks.
@@UkuleleJayBBQ thanks, I'll look into it
I own a Tumbler and I agree with Ukulele Bill's review. A truly original idea.
An "original" idea that was stolen from German company Horl that actually holds the patent for this product
@@BloPsy__ I didn’t specify whose original idea. Are you sure Tumblr doesn’t have a licensing agreement with Horl or that Tumblr isn’t a Horl subsidiary?
@@ralphaverill2001 Horl is in a legal action against tumbler, so no.
@@BloPsy__ I see Horl has the identical item for sale, (at twice the price.) Thank you for the information. I wish I had known about it before I bought the Tumbler. I shall try to follow the legal action by Horl.
Thank you for the information.
@@ralphaverill2001 They have even cheaper models, but they like to promote the most expensive as first
Just an FYI - I received the Tumbler and was quite disappointed because both sides of the magnet holder would not hold any knife even reasonably well so that it wouldn't move during sharpening. Even without using the sharping roller even the smallest of knives barely held on, no matter what was its steel composition from high carbon to stainless. I work with magnets daily and I took Gauss meter readings of the Tumbler magnet block and it was quite weak. I sent back the Tumbler for a refund. I was also surprised that Tumbler didn't even comment on the weak magnet issue, or offer a replacement.
Yes, that is a huge issue. See my recent Shoot out video? ua-cam.com/video/lPp6SBuoA4Q/v-deo.htmlsi=saOeq6P5c8A0TQSO
This is basically a remake of the Germany made HORL sharpener. The HORL is more expensive, yes, but has superior magnet strength and sharpening discs.
Why did you hold the paper differently between the dull and sharpened knives? The way you held “after” makes a big difference
Hi there, before and after on one my hand position may have been different on one but before and after watch the Hexclad is the same. There is no trickery here if that's what you are looking for. Watch my other videos, lots of them, held the same way. The BESS Tester is the real test (see my video on paper tests). That's not a "sharpness test" that's a apex feel test. The BESS tester shows you the real sharpness which I do on all my recent videos, this was a year ago. This should never be called a "sharpeness" test but has been adopted as such.
Cool sharpening system.
Honest review! 👍
Yes, it's definitely cool and super simple.
They are good for wide knives but on narrow ones the magnet isn’t strong enough to keep the knife up
Correct check out the Hone or Work Sharp rolling sharpeners. Much better and interchangeable discs.
+@toshtoshboy yes and that’s where the HONE base excels over all other bases especially when it comes to small knives.
Thank you, just saw this knife and was curious the effectiveness. Great video sir
Thank you very much. A new company is coming to market with what looks like it will be much improved over this with multiple grits and will do very small knives with very ingenious sharpening holder device. Looks killer! Another rolling sharpener on the way!
@UkuleleJayBBQ Awesome, do you by chance know the name so I could look at it?
@@matthewengland6428 hi there. Can’t disclose it yet. It should be here July 7-11 and I will be using it and then doing the review for the unveiling.
@UkuleleJayBBQ awesome. I'm subbed and excited to watch
@@matthewengland6428 fantastic. It's going to be an extensive review with lots of testing and comparisons.
What is the grit on both sides of the tumbler?
Only 1 grit. 2000ish. The other side is a groove smooth steel they say is to hone but if’s really to remove a burr and is flat and smooth so I would not use that side for true honing. The HONE sharpener comes with a 400 and 1000 grit and will have numerous other grit discs which easily put on and taken off. Have you seen my HONE videos?
How does it on curved blades
This is a very old video and I have done many updates. For curved blades I use the HONE (I have many videos on that) and if super curved I use the Work Sharp Precision Adjust Elite.
hmmm, i would love to see a 25 and 30 degree guide too, got some hard use outdoor knives
I was thinking one could make their own blocks with a mitre saw and embed a powerful magnet.
Would it work with pocket knives?
On smaller ones it is hard the magnets are not strong enough in my opinion to hold the blade edge up higher without it falling down and move if you apply pressure. Something with a fat blade like a Civivi Baby Banter maybe but I would definitely use my Work Sharp Precision Adjust Elite for my smaller pocket knives like 3 inch or smaller EDCs. While they may show that, you definitely won’t get the blade by the heel as the roller may hit the handle. Just depends but definitely designed more for kitchen knives a 3-4” pairing knife is probably the smallest. If it had stronger magnets as I have heard the HORL system has, then maybe.
What’s consider a professional sharpener? Thanks for the video. I just ordered this. Let’s see how I go with my knives
Not sure of an exact one. I know a knifesmith and he uses powered wheels, powered belts and whetstones. Not sure what professional does or does not encompass.
Can you sharpen a small pocket knife please
For small pocket knives I suggest this: ua-cam.com/video/ZkgXyNMCG9A/v-deo.html
What a fantastic review dude
Thanks, I really appreciate that!
I cant order this in Australia
There is a new company with a new rolling sharpener I am reviewing. It is far above and beyond this. It is out of Canada and maybe you’ll be able to order it. All the info will be posted in the review. Review should be posted by end of the week.
Can I use this on hunting knives too or would it fuck them up?
I would not use this on anything now that the HONE sharpener has made this obsolete. The HONE will also have a follow up product which allows you to adjust many angles using the same base so that will be really something.
Check out The Tumbler Or Hone Rolling Sharpener - Which One Is Better?
ua-cam.com/video/58-RSgMwf60/v-deo.html
and
BEST HIGH END ROLLING KNIFE SHARPENER REVIEW. IS THE HONE THE NEW KING ROLLING KNIFE SHARPENER?
ua-cam.com/video/fOE8BW1g4LAp/v-deo.html
I just received mine this morning. There are several well thought out features however, after several hours of sharpening just two knives, one one them a high end Japanese single sided kitchen knife the diamond edge was worn to the point that it was only honing the edge….. not cutting it.
Two, the single diamond end is not even close to coarse enough to effectively “ train/ cut” knives into the 15/20 angle. Trust me, it would take hours and hours to make the initial angle creations on just a few of your knives.
Great idea, quite expensive for such a disappointing result.
This company needs to offer 1-3 more aggressive gritted heads for all of us out here in the real world.
Thank you for the informative comment. I agree with you completely. There needs to be a process of desks not just one desk. I do fine for my knives that are sharp that have slowly gotten doll using the Tumblr does let me bring it back to a nice sharp edge, but for extremely dull knife, as you’ll see in one of my videos, it take me forever to get there and after a long time I wasn’t able to really get it super sharp. For all my main sharpening I use WorkSharp and will be releasing a series on those sharpeners which have numerous options and at lower prices. For the price of a Tumbler you can get the new Worksharp 2 belt sharpener with 6 different grits I believe of unlimited grit third party belts.
Please return it.
It's a cheap copy with bloated price, and while man behind this "thinks" it's forever, it's not.
It will wear out, and horl, the patent holder for these, is giving you replacements.
Please don't support stealing.
Would this work for a thin 8” fillet knife? Looks like the magnetic holder would be taller then the fillet knife.
Probably too small if below the magnets
Horl is better ! stronger magnet ...for exemple
Great review, I have been eyeing that one
Thank you very much, appreciate that!
Imo I really like this system been using it for little over a month and it's worked everytime. I also believe people who hate on this product also aren't using it properly, using it enough or they just like to talk non sense. Again this is my opinion so all you softies out there don't get too butt hurt by my opinion.
So, is it a HORL 2 knockoff?? Tumbler site only taking pre orders and not shipping until mid april
I heard they sold out which isn’t surprising. As far as “knock off” I can only say the Tumbler appears to be externally very similar. The honing side is completely different between the two based on external appearance. I have no idea how either looks internally.
Scam made by a guy that already scammed a lot of people on Kickstarter (his backpack etc). I hope HORL company will nail his ass.
Really? What backpack. I don’t use kickstarter but know what it is. Details? Tnx
Which angle did you do the Hexclad at? 15°?
Hello Shaverklan Thanks a million, appreciate you watching my videos and hope you are subscribed with that notification bell ;-) 20° is used on Hexclad.
Are these in Amazon? can't find them
I have not seem them there only on the Tumbler website.
As someone that had cooked his entire life but never really sharpened my kitchen knives much, would you recommend that I learn to use a whetstone or try this tumbler system? I have a Mayabi that will inevitably need sharpened soon as well as other cheaper knives. Any feedback is appreciated!!!
Hi Kyle. A whetstone takes quite a bit of practice. The Tumbler is one grit only so it’s limited. For the price I think there are better sharpeners with a lot more grit options. I have other reviews and will be posting many more with products from Work Sharp. Take a look at my recent review on the Angle Knife sharpener. I will be reviewing the Elite by Work Sharp as well as the Kitchen Pro and Ken Onion sharpeners. I have used the Kitchen Pro for years and it’s powered with excellent blade angle guides for 15 and 20 degree knife blades. I really like their products for price and the ability to use various grit belts (including a leather strop belt or for the Elite, a leather strop plate. I am a chef so I am always sharpening and realized it’s a big need.
@UkuleleJayBBQ Awesome!! Thank you so much for the replay and leading me in a better path. It is very much appreciated as I would rather not damage my prized chefs knives. There are so many options that I sort of got overwhelmed when researching. This helps alot!!
@@kylekincaid1668 I know what you mean! I should be posting three more reviews in the Work Sharp series of sharpeners and I think you may like those a lot. One manual and two electric. They are the top of their sharpening line with all the bells and whistles. The most expensive is only 140 buck and has TONS of options.
@@kylekincaid1668 that is my next review I am working on. It is an amazing sharpening system.
check out horl instead. I personally don't like products from producent that lies and steals.
This device, same as the one it's copied from, claims to make sharpening knives easier, but in fact it doesn't. You need two hands to press the magnetic holder and the blade against each other att the same time you need to pay attention to apply even pressure and roll the sharpener along the full length of the edge. Not to mention that fixing the blade edge-up is pretty dangerous, and that the two-piece design takes up more storage space. A decent whetstone is much cheaper, way easier to handle and to store away.
All these device are quite safe actually. A weak magnet makes it less safe. A whetstones takes a lot of practice and many non-knife folks do not want that. These devices allow correct angle consistency without worry. It’s a great concept when executed correctly.
There was a bit of misinformation in this video. An actual steel.... STEEL will not sharpen or take metal away from a knife. They are called honing steels. A ceramic steel will in fact sharpen and take metal away. Not hating on the video just want to clear that up for peeps that don't know the difference.
Thank you for the clarification! Much appreciated.
In my opinion, despite the detailed review, it is missing a simple conclusion: buy or not? Buy if xyz or / and not buy if bla.
I have a three-way comparison shoot coming out soon, which will answer your question. Make sure to subscribe and hit that notification bell so you don’t miss it.
linen shirt?
Wow eagle eye but seer sucker 😂👍🏼
be mindful of where the metal you're grinding off goes when next to food prep areas.
Thanks. I always thoroughly clean the entire area when done. Definitely agree, good point.
Does it really work? I have victorinox knife and I need your honest opinion about the product thank you😄
Yes it absolutely works. Definitely get the leather strop as that does a good job at the end.
Copyed German Design and the System is ok for basic sharpening, but man what about the tipp? Or curved knives coonvex or concave. Not the best System but simple for a quick use on normal day use knifes
Yes tips are definitely not a strong point but the target market appeara to be non knife sharpening folks who just need to retouch up a knife. Definitely not for all knives and only one grit which is very fine.
"Strop," not "strope."
When do you use 15° and when do you use the 20° Side ?
Hi there, based on the knife manufacture specifications. Used to be Western kitchen knives were 20 and Eastern (Asia) were 15. I am finding many now in the U.S. have been releasing 15°. I email the manufacture and they let you know.
@@UkuleleJayBBQ Hey there, here in Germany I guess we mostly have common knives. But all of the knives from my Granny are old dulled up so I was thinking about maybe saving some money to buy Tumblr :)
@@SasukeGER If you want to save money you might want to wait for my WorkSharp knife sharpener series that will be coming out soon with some really great sharpeners. For the same price as Tumbler you can get an awesome power belt sharpener with all the grits you would need and it will sharpen in 1/10 the time.
@@SasukeGER If you are from germany, great, support your country, and buy horl instead.
This idea was patented in your country, and one presented here is illegal copy.
Disclaimer: I sharpen knives and other tools professionally using the Tormek T-8 system exclusively with a total cost of over $2,500 for the extra diamond stones and most of the jigs.
While the OP has taken time to post this video, I feel as though it's a plug for this tumbler system. I would never pay that exhorbitant amount for a limited system that has so many user variables in producing a quality edge.
Having said that, NEVER hone a bevel until both have been ground....this is so incorrect information.
And, listening to the sound of the knife passing through the paper, I'm not impressed with the sharpness quality. The sound should be almost inaudible on a truly sharp knife.
The correct sequence of sharpening for a quality edge is as follows:
1. Grind one bevel till a burr is felt on the opposite bevel.
2. Grind the opposite bevel until a smaller burr is felt on the first side you ground.
3. Hone the bevel with the smaller burr first till you feel a tinier bevel on the opposite side.
4. Hone the tiny bevel till no burr is felt on either side.
5. Steps 3 and 4 may need to be repeated.
6. Strop both bevels.
7. Scope both bevels (if you have one) for looks only...i.e. that "polished" look. Not really neccessarry, it's just a visual thing.
8. Repeat step six if you really need to for looks.
You can thank me later😁
I use the Tormek T1 primarily for my quick honing and sharpening needs and for all kitchen knives, cleavers thst’s all you need for $375.00 U.S. gets razor blade sharpness with only the 600grit Diamond conical wheel and honing wheel.
So, you only sharpen on 1 side?
No both sides
The funny thing is that you can make your own for $5. And it can use any grit size or angle you want.
Please explain i’m interested
@@arthurjosse5414 Make the wood block and put 2 magnets on it. That will hold the knife. Instead of a roller, use a block of wood. I would call it a slider. Use any size grit sand paper that you want. If it's not sliding that well, put down some talcum powder. Easy, and cheap.
@@davidfoxrn sandpaper doesn't create a burr at that angle, and wood isn't straight or hard enough to get a clean edge especially after you cut it. probably great to make butter knives tho.
@@Max-ju6in sandpaper definitely can put a burr on steel and wood can be flat and straight enough 😂
@@Max-ju6in you could clamp stones on that "slider" as well. Point he was trying to make, while it is a great design, the roller is a100 bucks
Slight problem. You're only sharpening on one side. You're going to turn all of your knives into single bevel.
Both sides are sharpened. The knife is flipped around on the same side so you are in fact sharpening both sides.
I'm very skeptical of this cause all the reviews I've seen look like there paid to say it works great. Like there is zero down side for this product.
I was not paid nor asked to do a review. The down side is it’s not good on pocket knives and is only 1 grit as of now. It definitely will not repair a damaged and chipped knife blade either and is only 15 or 20° so really made for just kitchen knives and cleavers. Otherwise it does work great on knives that are dull from just normal use in my opinion. For the price I think there are other good options and I’ll be comparing those in the coming weeks once my BESS tester arrives.
I've bought the HORL-2 and am very impressed.
@@robertjeantet6444 did you get the removable discs?
@@UkuleleJayBBQ no, just the Horl-2 kit. Seems quite sufficient for me, I'm not a knife enthusiast. I just like my knives to cut well in the kitchen.
@@robertjeantet6444 got it, tnx! I am sure it works well.
Ceramic is an abrasive. If it doesn't remove metal, why is it turning black? There's different grits of ceramic and that rod is indeed abrasive, just a fine one.
My guess is that when you hone your knife using a ceramic rod you’re realigning the edge of a used dull knife. Dull knifes will be stained after being used for a while so that’s probably what gets left on the ceramic rod
If it wasn't a knock off, it would be nice...
Edit: For people wondering, Tumbler is 1:1 copy of the German Horl sharpener, which is patented worldwide.
What is it a knock off of?
@@fruitcop9488 The German Horl sharpener. Horl is actually in legal action against Tumbler.
This nice knockoff works beautifully.
@@billythomas5616 Sure, but I will rather spend money on the original product. I do not like thieves.
@@BloPsy__
So anyone who makes a new version of something is now a thief? Good luck explaining that to every artist,scientist or anyone else that thinks of an original idea.
Closed minded thinking like that is why we will be led to monopolies that get passed through law…
Whare I can find it?
I think they have it on their website for $98.00 US last I looked..
@@UkuleleJayBBQ thank you for the information.
@@Mohammad_Bassam my pleasure.
Too bad they don't sell overseas. I ordered a similar one but it only has a 15° holder which is ok since i wanted to have that kind of bevel anyway.
If you are in Europe: you can think about getting the original Design Inventor HORL, they are more expensive, but I think after import fees probably even cheaper than the Tumbler (which is now facing legal trouble, as they infringe the HORL patents)
@@hg-sf7yx and horl is made in germany not china
man they must have paid you a lot of money for this. Not a negative thing to say really, and your use of language was very biased toward being positive. Left the box in the background the whole time and everything.
Didn’t pay me a dime, and for what it is as a single grit roller it worked and was super easy to use. Funny how when someone is positive on something people like you think it’s all paid. I have news for you, some of us actually like things we try and use. SHOCKING!
@Ukulele Jay BBQ glad to hear it wasn't an ad, and I'm glad the product works for you
@@neonsilver1936 thanks. Definitely better options for “sharpening” which I will showing in my upcoming Work Sharp sharpeners series. Also not paid 😎👊🏻
Afternoon, is this a sponsored review?
Hi There, no this was not sponsored. I did this on my own as I was really impressed. I did another one recently on sharpening a super dull Cutco knife as well. Thanks for watching, and appreciate the question.
Ver6 nice review, i subscribed
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that.
The paper test is pretty bad.
Even a semi decently sharpened knife will succeed on the paper test.
I just tested these tumbler rollers myself and the grit they have is something akin to 300-350.
Without going to a higher grid you really miss out on sharpening those knifes.
Yes they will succeed on the paper and nail test, but the moment you cut something like a tomato you will feel that the edge is lacking.
Over all these tumblers are far too expensive for the fact they are angled block with magnets and a rather small diamond stone and a stainless steel plate connected via wood or a stainless cylinder, obviously not forgetting the bearings.
If you got like a second tumbler in the set that had higher grids on them it would be okay, but for a small diamond stone plate in only a 300-350 grid that only really forms the basic geometry of the edge they are too expensive.
For the price you could get a stone set that you also use too sharpen tools like chisels.
You could get a lansky sharpener that clamps you knife/blade and allows you a wide degree of angles and is also fast in sharpening.
Tumbler has been surpassed by HONE (honesharp.com) by leaps and bounds. See my reviews and tests using a BESS digital tester.
Jay - longtime no chat! Did you give up on the uke? I got a great uke from Alan in Australia because of you. Thanks again! Paul in seattle
Hey Paul wow long time!! No way! I still play and have 2 of Alan’s now along with the entire collection. Even play and post in some of my Instagram posts 🤘🏼😎
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I'll stick with my KME....
Good choice
Ok so me and my best friend run a highly respected restaurant " he's the owner" . He bought this junk and we have followed the directions for weeks now and this is crap ..what sucks even more is he ran a knife booth selling knives at trade shows. Junk junk junk. Don't count on this unless you want to waste time when ya need a sharp prep knife. And we run a BBQ restaurant .....junk...junk....junk
I would never use this at a restaurant. Your friend needs the Tormek T2 or T1. I am posting sharpening a cleaver on the T1 tomorrow. This is for knives that need heavy honing but takes FOREVER on extremely dull blades. Tormek all the way for any commercial or pro kitchens.
Wondering why would I have to travel with a knife sharpener
You may not but I am a personal chef and do events. My last one I had to slice 16 tri-tips by hand and I needed to hone my knife so this with the 3000 Ceramic would be awesome. Had a ceramic honing rod but this provides the perfect honing angle. Doing a large event in Oct and I will have this with me for sure. I do not like honing steel rods.
@@UkuleleJayBBQ I see got it!
@@keerthikumar2023 no problem! Was a very good question.
It's a really good tool for sharpening knives but it cost 100$ you could buy a worksheet for 30 bucks cheaper and it does the same thing just as easy it's a great tool but four hundred bucks I wouldn't buy it but if you want to buy it go ahead I'm just talkin for me
Agree the HORL at $500 is a premium and at that price you could buy some of the best belt sharpeners. I think the no power option, this style wins over a lot of sharpeners when it comes to a “learning curve” such as. Whetstones or even the angular sliding sharpeners you have to assemble.
Work Sharp is more value for the money.
Love Work Sharp and use several of their products. Apples to Oranges sharpening system though!
Sorry, you tested the knives before and after sharpening in a different way....
I do not understand. What do you mean? Thanks.
Strop. Not a strope. Silly seppo
Like I said I'm not a professional knife guy or sharpener. Tomaaato ToeMayToe ;-)
Strope that knife dad
Why didn't you sharpen your chefs knife ?😅 PT Barnum would be proud.
This is an ad those sharpeners arent rly good. I belive the first of this was "horl" or somthing like this and it is ok but japanesen waterstones are so much better and is u want smt fast ... get some Automatik sharpener
yeah pretty suspicious just looking at how it works and knowing how to actually sharpen using whetstones
I will agree whetstones are fantastic but I don’t “believe” better is an accurate comparison. I believe if we had the selection of grits like a whetstone this would come very close. 2000 grit whetstone and 2000 grit of this style you will get a more consistent angle with this style it would appear but I am no knife sharpening expert. Just a fan of my kitchen knives.
People buy this because it’s easy to use and most people have like zero dexterity skill, so... :) I prefer the wetstone too.
This looks so shady, blade is wobly as hell, nothing keeps it in place when pressure is applied, and this system is not suitable at all when re-profiling a blade as no way it will keep the blade in place and maintain that angle.
Otherwise fancy looking system.
Agree on most points. It does get some movement and I had hold to hold the handle down to prevent a little movement but it really does work, definitely no for re-profiling. Best system for me is the Work Sharp line.
Make no mistake. This is kinda USELESS using it on a knife with a rounded edge.
Junk and a waste of time...and I was all for this when we bought it
Iv seen these things are capable of turning a butter knife into the sharpest thing possible
I have not tried a butter knife but that sounds fun to try. Thanks for a great video idea!
@@UkuleleJayBBQ I was impressed with the results and the thing ends up sharper than a razor blade! .,. A butter knife ! Haha
@@kirkdurkadurkathat's awesome. If you start with a knife that isn't chipped, warped or damaged I have found it does extremely well. Most of all my knives are now razor sharp using it. Definitely works!! I need to do that butter knife video for sure ;)
@@kirkdurkadurka Well, realistically, you can sharpen *everything* into the sharpest edge possible for a bit. Get something sharp is all about the effort and technique you put into it. Whether the butter knife will retain that edge is more of the question and greatly depends on the grade of steal. So I can see how it got the butter knife to that sharpness, but wouldn't be surprised if it lost that edge quite quickly as well.
These are just sanders. Blocks and leather straps are better. Save yourself the money your blades will last longer and you went spend a ton on a gimmick
This is completely useless for small knives, steak , pocket, pairing knives do not fit the the magnetic. Only fits larger knives. 100$ wasted.
Check out my recent videos on the HONE rolling knife sharpener. It loves small knives in a special way.
SCAAAAM!!!!! stolen patent, from a small German company HORL!!!!!
Knock off… don’t show that stuff.
I was not aware HORL even existed until this review video. This is a review and I stand by my findings. It works very well. I am sure with the HORL 2 and the removable discs that would be the cat's meow but at $500.00 I like my belt sharpener which takes 180 to 8000 grit belts. Fastest and sharpest I have ever been able to get a knife and works with tiny pocket knives as well.
You can get a work sharp cheaper.
WorkSharp kitchen pro is my regular belt sharpener.
He sold knives at trade shows and I carved leather in my past life.....lol JUNK
Hmm yes, 440c steel on a meme sharpener
Don't get it but ok.
I bought one it is junk
It has definitely fallen from it’s start. I hope people see my 3 way shoot out and other rolling sharpener videos.
Its a knock off of a product that is overpriced and isnt working that good anyway
Check out the new Hone!
Money doesn't buy truth.
I am disappointed. I was hoping for an unpaid review
It is unpaid. NO ONE pays me for a review. I wish comments like yours were from educated viewers who don’t have to just say something for the sake of seeing yourself in writing and don’t know the facts at all.
Extremely overpriced
It is pricey compared to other sharpeners with much more flexibility and features. Will be posting the entire line of Work Sharp sharpeners which I really love.
Its legit a ripoff of the Horl orignal product xD GUY EVEN FAKES THE TESTS TO SHOW ITS SHARPNESS DONT BUY THIS CRAP
See my video on those tests I just posted this last week.
Gotta say, I’ve never heard anyone else use the fingernail test. I’ve been telling my cooks for years, run it over your thumbnail and if it makes the base of your nuts tingle, it’s sharp. Not sure what to elk the ladies🤣
Well, I have done it for years and for me it works! When I have nothing to test or paper or food, the good old fingernail grab will tell me at least I have a working blade ;-)
For the ladies, if your lip quivers then it's sharp!
+Tom Rummel hilarious! Well I never had my nuts tingle doing that but I did have my butt pucker a few times when I was learning! 😂🙌🏼👊🏼
Just want you to know that the Hexclad knife is a complete rip off of the Smaragd knife from 140 year old Norwegian brand Øyo.
The disrespect from Hexclad lol.
Too expensive
Yep!
Scam. FWIW, this seems to be an unlicensed knockoff of the original HORL 2 sharpening system that was created by Otmar & Timo Horl: ua-cam.com/play/PLwnHRvfb07m8dq5hx-39Q7PI9RZay4x94.html
The real one doesn't cost a lot more, and, if you upgrade to the HORL 2 Walnut or Pro models, you can swap the end discs for even better sharpening. (The Pro model has 3:1 internal gears to spin the discs three times faster than the body!)
Hi Keith, it’s not a scam. It works exactly as advertised. I would be happy to test out the HORL if they asked me but there is no scam going on. If you mean they copied a design or concept then it does look nearly identical but so do tons of things these days. This is does not appear to be close to the price. $89 v $189 for the basic without interchangeable discs is 100% more expensive from what I have seen. The HORL is more expensive but the removable discs and that gearing would be something I would love to get my hands on to test and definitely would be worth more for a 3 disc set but for the 3 interchangeable discs at nearly $500.00 for HORL it certainly opens the market to others doing it for much much less and that's just how the widget industry goes. Without and International Patent anyone can engineer and identical design in another country. It's done to U.S. Manufactures all the time. Not sure on the patent status and that's not the point of this video. It's merely a review. I have no ties or relationship to Tumbler but I do like it especially for , it works as it should and feels like a very quality product. That’s my opinion.
Sorry Jay, but that is a really weak answer. Promoting knock-offs is not okay and you know that.
@@KaguyaTrials everyone has their opinion. I don’t agree with yours.
@@KeithOlson But just to be clear... The "Cruise" is only 20 degrees. In fact, that might be where Tumbler ends up getting away with it. On pure technicality. Compare one whetstone set to another. What makes the difference. If I were HORL I'd definitely take them to court if they have a case.
@@UkuleleJayBBQ this brand is a pure copy of the first version. They know it. Because they limit the marketing to only to USA, in Europe they risk criminal prosecution.
This is a blatant copy of the Original Horl Rollschleifer. I would not promote a cheap knockoff as to not mislead viewers.
According to Tumbler it’s building a more affordable product which is done by companies all the time while not violating any legal IP rules. The mechanism inside is patent pending for Tumbler in the U.S.
There is no product confusion in my video. The video is clearly about The Tumbler and does not mention any other products. No one is confused this is a Tumbler Product by the company tumbler but your point is well taken. I do not have any other product like this with hands on experience so I cannot factually make any comparison between another comparable product but I can say it is sold, and appears very well built and works well. I am not promoting anything. I am not paid for any videos. I just tell it like I see it. Good or bad.
It‘s product piracy, plain and simple.
Relax they all come from the same Chinese manufacturer ……. The only thing is “ ohh I did it first “
They don‘t. Horl is Made in Germany while Tumbler is made somewhere else.
Hey I am with you my family is from Freiburg so I gotta choose Horl over tumbler. Sadly marketing wins. At the end of the day Tumbler has better marketing.
Just a knock-off horl from Germany
Dude loves his knives but doesn't have a sharp one in the house. Take a break from the snacks and sharpen a knive, call it cardio
Hillarious! I have a few dull ones left for some vids. I did cardio this weekend!👊
Your demo with paper after the sharpening was weak. The knives didn't cut through the paper easily and thoroughly.