Mountain Climbing Shay Locomotive
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Large Shay Locomotive as it reaches Bald Knob (nearly the highest peak in WV). It's got a cool 14 wheel drive that allows it climb slopes 4 times steeper than modern engines... but it's slow. Max speed is 12 mph... steep climbs are 4 to 7 mph. As it passes, there is a close-up view of the extreme pistons and linkages needed to drive all the wheels.
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I love the way Shays sound like they're going a hundred miles an hour, thanks to all that rapid-fire chuffing, when they're really just plodding along at their typical stately (and powerful) pace.
My father trained as a forester, and told the story - long before I'd even heard of a geared locomotive - of how he and a coworker were timber cruising one summer on Vancouver Island. They had a long bushwhack to get back to camp at day's end and were delighted to stumble upon a railway track headed their way. They were happily striding down the right-of-way when suddenly the sound of a train whistle split the air, followed the hammer of rapid cylinders just ahead; they literally jumped into the bushes lest they be run over by the speeding train.
And waited.
And waited.
And finally, a Shay with a string of log cars came into view from around the bend, cylinders chuffing like an express mail on the flatlands as it made walking speed up the grade.
This is beautiful! Lol
In a three-legged race, a Shay would win...on a 15% grade.
But they didnt want to jump aboard because they were in a hurry...
Shays can climb up or down a 7% grade..........
The Cass Scenic Railway has about a 15 percent grade just after Spruce.
I saw a video of the "Georgetown Loop" in Colorado. They have a Shay locomotive. The engineer said that the only way to make it go faster was to shove it off a cliff. 😆
About 40 years ago, I had a trip on the Fulton Railroad in California. While we were in the woods having a short walk, there came the sound of a Shay working very hard, the first time I had heard such a magnificent beast. It sounded very like the 3-cylinder V1 and V3 2-6-2s that operated the Glasgow suburban service twenty years or so earlier. Happy days!
>sounds like it's going at the speed of light
>really going at a brisk walking pace
Yep, that's a Shay for you
It's been mentioned by others but the Shay, Heisler's and Climax's always sounded so busy! Being really geared down will do that. Same goes for the Avery traction engines..
What you have in this video is western Maryland number 6 the largest shay ever built. The WM bought her for switching heavy coal drags on branch lines and performing switching in yards with long heavy coal drags getting them lined up for road locomotive's to haul out and start the coal trains on their way to market.
That engine was set aside and was on display at the B & O Railroad museum in Baltimore, Maryland until it was leased to the old logging operation in West Virginia that is owned by the State but now run by a private corporation and very effectively.
The advantage of a shay is like a diesel locomotive it was one of three types of steam locomotives that were 100 percent of the locomotive's weight was on the drivers and being gear driven instead of using long rods like most steam locomotives do they were slow but had a lot of tractive effort and were able to climb grades as steep as 12 percent with empty cars being shoved up the grade and bringing down loads of timber for the lumber mills. Slow they are but very effective they were at moving lots of trees down off the mountains. There were three types of geared steam locomotives used for logging the shay, the he isles and the climax locative though the Shay was the most popular for ease of maintenance and power compared to the other two types.
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Kansas City Southern actually had one that was bigger but it was saturated steam as opposed to the big 6.
Actually, Cass once had an engine even larger than WM Shay 6. Shay #12 was a four truck shay that ran until like the 1940s. Unbelievably it was scrapped. Shay 6 does give some idea how huge that monster was though!
@@thunderbird1921 One of the amazing things about WM #6 and the #12 are that put side by side the engines are virtually identical (ignoring the stack). The difference is in the 2 truck tender.
As has been said Greenbrier, Cheat & Elk Railroad #12 was bigger in size.,
These two Shays are noteworthy because of their sheer size. The GC&E #12 was originally built as a 150-ton three-truck Shay in 1921. That was very large Shay then. In 1933 it was enlarged at the Cass, West Virginia shops of the GC&E into a four-truck Shay, probably becoming the heaviest Shay ever. The WM #6 was built in 1945 as a 162-ton three-truck Shay, also one of the largest ever built at the Lima Locomotive Works. The WM #6 only operated in service for eight years and then was placed in the B&O Railroad Museum in Baltimore for 30 years. The GC&E #12 was scrapped at the Cass shops in 1955 following a wreck in 1942. Ironically, the WM #6 is currently operational at the Cass Scenic Railroad.
Not only are the operational histories of these two Shays tied together, but they have mechanical ties as well. When Lima designed the WM #6, they drew heavily upon their experience with GC&E #12. Many of the drawings for Order Number 510 (WM #6) are revisions of earlier drawings for Order Number 329 (GC&E #12).
I have to admit, the way these trains are propelled fascinates me. The exposed connecting rods and crankshaft that drives the wheels is pure engineering magic. It looks like it wouldn't work, but that engine really pushes a load.
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And made 100 ago! That thing is fascinating and sure is putting steam to work!
That is the ultimate All-Wheel-Drive vehicle.
Is it just me, or do shays always have the best whistles?
I don't even know. I absolutely love the Durango and Silvertons #481 's whistle.
Whistles are interchangeable, it's the engineer that makes it sound pretty.
Tep looks just like the Dixieanna Shay at Roaring Camp. Those Lima Shay's will damn near climb anything you throw at them. Absolutely amazing Geared Steam Locomotives!
That whistle sounds so spooky and haunting
I love how Shays sound like they're going 50 mph when they're actually just going about 15 mph.
Top speed was 12 mph.
That's because they have 3 Cylinders on their drive line
My wife and I have rode this Bald Knob Run many time and have spent many nights in the caboose up there.
You are some lucky kids. A few years ago my former wife and I stayed at Cass inn. I loved the whistle echoing in the Valley at the depot. I can't wait to go back.
Seems so lightly loaded. I love Shays and other geared locos. the linkages for all wheel drive of these is so simple mostly just sliding joints that can take up a little motion in other directions. Large and clunky compared to how we'd make them today they are impressive. I once lived across the river from a tourist RR that runs mostly Shay and similar engines. We'd all bring them our used motor oil back in the day to burn. Now that oil is re-refined and either re-used as lube oil or burned in various steam engines.
Roaring camp I assume?
@@RedwoodCreekRailroad Yes indeed! All year I could set my watch by the noon whistle even when it was not tourist season they still had to do track work.
Note that there are three four-wheel trucks under this engine, therefore it's got 12-wheel drive, not 14-wheel.
Talk about all wheel drive!
I think the Shay is the coolest locomotive around.
Beautifull view of train passing 🚆❤️
Отлично в конце видео ,с дымком на вагоны ,подкаптить пассажиров классно на долго запах дыма будет вспоминать о поездке !!!
Piękna lokomotywa, wagony i trasa😊.
through Google Translate I find this is Polish and means:
Beautiful locomotive, wagons and route
Beautiful I have a full garden scale one at my house
Which isn't all that much smaller than the 1:1
Ingat jaman dulu, salam kenal salam kompak selalu dari Medan bang paket komplit sudah nempel ya bang
Imagine if modern diesels had that 14 wheel drive system
Imagine if the OP could actually count. It’s a 12 wheel drive setup. 2 axles per truck, 3 trucks total.
Да передача другая
How does it have a '14 wheel drive'? It has 3 bogies, each 4 wheels, that totals 12 wheels.
Cass Scenic RR, #6 last Shay built
My grandad drove Shay's in lumber camps and mining camps in Appalachia in the early 1900's
Is the reason for shunting the coaches up steep climbs to relieve strain on the coupling?
They do it for safety reasons. It was also how they pushed the log cars back in the logging days as well
At Cass and some others they do switch backs, push car part way then switch tracks and pull the cars and at times they do it my times in order to climb up steep grade.
You need to go to Cass, W.Va.
Nice, very nice !!!!
Why is no-one in the coach by the engine? That's exactly where i would be!
It is really loud. If you aren't the biggest railfan people are annoyed by it. I always sit in the front car myself LOL
@@danielday8828 Yeah, when my Dad and I visited Cass about 10 years ago, we sat in the car furthest from the engine partially because the whistle was so loud! Also, you don't get as a good a view from that car (the engine blocks one side and having all the cars ahead makes it hard to view around). You can get way better views on the train's front end (plus you get to see the shay's pistons and shaft running from there, which is really cool).
Rode on the Cass many times, always as close as I could get to the engine. Best ride was in an open flat car, in the rain, 4 feet from the nose of the Shay.
@@paulhare662 Sounds fantastic!
@@7822welshsteam It was. It was cool humid weather that day so the steam from the engine was very pronounced. The rain drops were hissing and sputtering on top of the Shay. The enclosed cars were jam packed, the only people on the flat car were me and my Daughter. We had on camo army ponchos. When the train returned to the station, we went to the gift shop for books. The staff had noticed us, alone in the rain and commented on how cool it was that we were out there. My Daughter's middle name is Shay.
Show, que locomotiva diferente, nunca tinha visto com essa maneira de tracionar. 👍👍🚂👍
Back piston is forward of the of the cab. Does this not make it a Willamette, rather than a Shay, all but one of the Willamette Locos were oil burners?
A Willamette has the cylinders turned 90⁰ with the valves facing outward
14 wheel drive? Wonder what shay model that is.
C class Shay. Three cylinders, three trucks. And 12 wheels instead of 14 (probably a typo).
Beautiful.....
❤Beautiful
WM #6 IS the 2nd LARGEST SHAY ever built
sehr schöne Lok !!!!
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Toda una hermosura 😍
14 drive wheels????? What does it have, an extra axle set in case of a flat?
shayengineer10 Based on your username, you probably know better. How many drive wheels are on this engine?
Duh....12.
@@shayengineer10 *face palm*
Shay don't need no racks OR pinions.
Slow n’ steady
If I hear that loud horn in the middle of a night, I'd be run away as quick as possible..
Whistle*
@Cheese i corrected it already
Steam engine train??
Yes. And a very slow one :-)
That’s a class c shay locomotive
Wonderfully low geared. Lot's of low speed pulling power.
Sounds like it should be moving 80 miles per hour, yet here she's moving barely at a human jog!
The Shays are the slowest geared locomotives
Yeah, but they're extremely powerful. They were built for heavy loads on very steep grades. I live near Cass Scenic Railroad in WV and they pull an astonishing 11 1/2 % grade!!! Most steam locomotives can't even pull 2% grades.
even modern diesel locomotives can’t do what a Shay can
@@steakthedoggaming5333 then forget about expenses and make some
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@@theextremeanimator4721 we would have to figure out how to make the steel to do that. We lost a lot of metallurgical processes and knowledge. It's parsley part of the reason why Battleship steel is so valuable.
@@jamesbuckner4791 ...what the actual fuck did I just say back then?
Nice, but I only see 12 wheels.
EPA certified
2:26 - a girl waving
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Aqui no Brasil acabaram com todas
4 cabin locomotive and way structure eguipment supply me farm veng go
Shays rule
Long train
WOW WHAT'S ALL THAT AIR POLLUTION
WERE SHAYS CONVERTED TO
OIL
Wouldn't be surprised if a couple were, but it was mostly Heisler and Climax locomotives that were converted into deisel and gas power systems.
All the Cass locomotives are all coal burners
Coal smoke is better for the environment than what all y’all consider safe for the environment. Why do you think it’s pollution? The ashes fertilize the ground. Why do you think the area around volcanos look so beautiful? The volcanic ash fertilizes the ground
☝😕🏃wlecze się w tempie ślimaka a kopci i dymi w środowisku okropnie !!!
and origaly these shays worked on lumber railways
Really???? What a fuckin dumb shit you are. How about getting your info together before saying they were originally for lumber railways! They were for ANY steep graded railway that needed maximum traction and pulling power.
shayengineer10 he's still technically correct, asswipe.
True in most cases, but WM Shay 6 (the one in this video) was actually built to move coal on a really steep branchline. So they could have more than one usage.
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Como Não Amar Isso ??
49 ÷ 7 = 7
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That thing is REALLY polluting the air
Two line new electric make line engan
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Lay of that whistle mate
A lot of time spent on very little content.
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It sounds like it's coming at record pace. Stupid geared engines and their misleading RPMs.
As for 12mph, just ride a bicycle.
That stupid geared Shay pulls a grade of nearly 12%. Try that in your average automobile. Those Shays are slow (max abt 35 to 40 mph) but are extremely powerful. Most locomotives can't pull 2%. This section of track is at the summit of Bald Knob and is pulling an 7 to 8% grade!
Patsy Ware Bruh the max speed is 15-20mph lmao
Alex Paulsen Why don't you have your rod engine pull a 11.5% grade
Try pulling literal toms of logs uphill on your bike
Lol. All that tractive effort for 5 lousy "passenger coaches?" Thank goodness for modern GE AC power.
Esa locomotora es una basura.
디게 느리네. 걍 걸어가고 말지.
This shit should be banned and is nothing to be proud of.
You have a rocket pfp. Rockets are the literal pinnacle of stupid engineering
All that power , yet so slow. Looks like a very inefficient engine.