Chasing NKP 765 In Northeast Ohio Part 3: Trouble On The Connection (A Greasy Situation)
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Filmed July 2015
Nickel Plate Road no. 765 is a 2-8-4 "Berkshire" type steam locomotive built for the Nickel Plate Road in 1944 by the Lima Locomotive Works in Lima, Ohio. Classified as a "S-2" class Berkshire, the locomotive operated fast, heavy freight and passenger trains until retirement in 1958. It's also similar to Pere Marquette 1225.
Last run June 14, 1958
Retired May 4, 1963
Restored September 1, 1979
In 2013, 765 was officially included in Norfolk Southern's 21st Century Steam program, an effort to engage the general public and celebrate the railroad's heritage through steam locomotive operations. Plans saw the 21st Century Steam to visit many of Norfolk Southern's major terminals between 2013-2015. On the weekend of July 25-26, the Berkshire hauled excursions from Youngstown, Ohio to Ashtabula, Ohio.
The Video:
NKP 765 is running a ferry move (empty train to the next place) and is moving east from the Lake Erie District onto the Youngstown connection, turning south onto the Youngstown line in Ashtabula Ohio. The train was going from Cleveland Ohio to Youngstown, Ohio. The train was mostly empty but still have some weight to drag. Besides the tender, there is an Auxiliary (water) tender for more water on the go, which was full, and had several loaded gons of coal for 765. The coal goes with 765 on ferry moves due to issues with ordering coal on the go. Along with the loaded aux tender and several coal cars, 765 is pulling 20 some passenger cars along as well.
Going around the Connection (and stalls)
765 with its rather heavy, lengthy train, 765 still needs to turn over 2 switches, and follow the sharp curve onto the connection and head south up a 1.24% grade all at once. All these curves, can be too sharp could build a bind. 765 would be working harder rounding the curve but a plan was made. Grease the flange ways to make less of a bind/ resistance on the wheels. A simple fix, to ease something through in any bind.
What went wrong?
When requested to grease the rails, the railroad maintainers did just that. The railroad maintainers greased the inside edge of the rails where the flange ways would roll over. The issue arise after the train comes to a complete stop. After realizing what happened, the railroad maintainer applied too much grease for the drive wheels. When the wheels rolled over grease, since there was too much, it smeared to the top of the rail, causing the locomotive to lose grip and spin to a slow stop.
Was It necessary to grease the rails?
Yes. The steam locomotive has a rigid frame and is not as flexible as a diesel locomotive. The 4 big drive wheels are rigid and hunts for the rails as it goes down the tracks. Its a lot like bumper cars bumping into a wall. Greasing the rail would ease adhesion around the sharp curve.
Did the sanders work? Does the locomotive carry sand? Why wasn't the engineer applying it?
Yes, and yes! The engineer was applying it. This is one of the last few steam locomotives to be built, and has some of the most modern technology, especially after being rebuilt for excursion service. The sand was applied, as soon as the engineer realized he had wheel slip happening, but the greased outweighed the sand for the traction. The train came to a stop eventually.
Was the engineer aware of the situation/greased rails?
Yes and no. I am sure the engineer knew the connection (curve) was greased, but not overdone like what actually happened. It was a dry sunny summer day. So to have slippage like what was in the video coming out of nowhere would throw you off if you are in the hot seat driving the train.
The ended result:
Yes the train stopped. 765 backed up, and the crew men dumps cups of sand on top of the grease to get the traction again and made a second attempt to go around the curve, and succeeded.
Again remember- The locomotive was pulling a lengthy heavy train, switching tracks, then switched onto a tight curve (connection track) and climb a hill at 1.24% grade all while it was over greased. There was a lot of adhesion, and resistance against the locomotive. The grease would help but "too much of a good thing is bad for you" and that is exactly what happened.
I thought these had sand systems to dump sand to the wheels when needed rather than manually doing it. That was a cool engine, nicely restored.
Even though this isn’t the richest neighborhood, you can tell that they take pride in their homes, their yards and keeping the streets clear from trash and litter. 👍👍👍👍👍👍. Nice job Ohio!!!!
What a beautiful piece of living history, I hope we continue to preserve these lovely machines. Talk about Beauty and the beast - This train has both, beauty and is a beast. I love the smell of graphite, oil and steam all mingled into one. I was fortunate to join the British Merchant Navy as an Engineer whilst they still had steam ships with main engine being a steam turbine and most of the auxiliary equipment being reciprocating steam engines. Thanks for this video, its pure magic in motion.
The actual encounter of a functional steam engine is something that is etched in the mind for life. I saw a steamer in 1975 in Tacoma Park MD. They are loud with an array of pressurized sounds. love it!!
When tired I watch the aweful power and beauty of steam engines...marvellous....Salute to crew who handle this huge & complex machine
I was a brakeman on the N.K.P railroad in Bellevue Ohio in 1953 , I road this steam engine many times , my what a power machine it was , it would pull a 100 loaded freight car 70 to 80 miles per hour , we run from Bellevue Ohio to Fort Wayne Indiana, After all these years I still like to watch the train go by ,
It gives the impression that if it did hook up it has the torque to move the world back slightly as it started to roll.
It's huge, loud, and beautiful, every time I saw it's kind, I can feel energy. Love it.
What an audacious concept. We're going to build a water tight container out of iron and steel and rivet it all together. Then heat it to hundreds of pounds per square inch. And put it on wheels and roll it down a track at high speed. And it WON'T blow up!
The art, the metal, the sounds, the sights. I would pay just to watch these come and go.
I've never seen a steam locomotive in person.
I love watching these old engines when they’re really moving down the tracks!
Someone has to switch on the traction control. Lionel had Magna Traction that worked . All kidding aside it’s very rewarding to see that people put time and effort into these beautiful giants. It’s just fun listening to the chuffing and watching the drivers moving.
Id love to see a few of these a year pulling. Especially in the winter. 20 below zero. Steam just rolling down the tracks. Cool.
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This reminds me of my home town (eastern Washington) where there was a grade coming and going and the usual route was from north to south. Every year or two some of the fun loving local guys would grease the rails on the outbound side of town to the consternation of the evening train crew. Laying in bed at night you could hear the engine hit the greased section and spin to a stop, whistle a couple of times and then back all the way to the down slope on the northern side of town, get a good run at the greased section and nearly make it through. Failing, it would repeat the process until it finally made it all the way past the greased section, by which time the entire town was awake. What fun.
That's always SO cool when you watch the arms on the wheels turn and turn so fast until it finally kicks in.
I keep rewatching this one, it fascinates me. The driver certainly knows his stuff, this would have been only too easy for the slip to become uncontrolled and destroy the locomotive. Interesting to actually see the sanders in operation. Great video and well done to the guy on the throttle!!!
“Please drive slowly We our chlidren”
This was a great video - thanks for sharing. It was funny how even the cop took out his phone and started taking pictures (