The Massacre In The Cellar | Time Team (English Civil War Documentary) | Timeline
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Hopton Castle was the site of a massacre during the English civil war. There is only one account of the battle and subsequent slaughter of the defenders. The Time Team decides to investigate the site and try to establish how much of the account is actually true.
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For future reference, when stripping turf by hand, this is usually quicker, better, & easier on the body than shovels & spades .
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Seeing Phil (& crew) about doubled-over , with a short-handled spade makes me wince . ;)
I don't know who I am, I don’t know why I'm here, All I know is that I must watch every Time Team episode ever made.
They've got new episodes. Two 3 part series on Time Team Official channel here on UA-cam.
After the English civil war, a Father and his three sons fled to America from devonshire. He is my 9th great grandfather. Learning this made me want to learn about the English civil war. Great watch. Cheers.
@GET RAD yeah that isn't news to anyone.. finding out the circumstances of the move over here is what was Interesting to me. How big of a tool do you have to be to find something snarky to say about that. Congrats guy.
Very cool
I grew up in Devon, maybe we are distantly related :D
what Colony out of interest? would of had to have been one of the first
@@wynwilliams6977 In general, roundheads went to the non-crown colonies. Those were up North. Massachusetts was biggest. Cavaliers went to Virginia, giving their name to UVA’s basketball team.
I started watching Time Team on Amazon Prime. I'm glad there are more episodes. I love this show.
Ohhh..I lv ya Phil. . Always..been watching time team since mid 90s from outback australia..n the middle of nowhere... God bless u all I love u all. Thank u for these channels..🙏
Phil is such a character. bless him
I certainly agree with you there DOT But before we can be certain he is a character we're gonna need to dig a trench.
I was thinking the same when i clicked on this.
He sounds like Benny Hill often did.
@@E.T.S. It's not. This episode is from 2010.
He spoils it with his nonsense ..
It interesting to me that each time team dig has its own personality... also phil harding is a badass.
A "pinfold" is NOT a sheep pen. A pinfold in medieval England was the place where stray animals which had wandered away from where their owner had kept them were kept, pending collection by said owner. The person in charge of the pinfold would keep not only stray sheep, but also pigs, goats, cattle - any animals - and only return them to the owner upon payment of a fine, or fee, for him keeping the animals safe.
Thank You for posting! Love that it's in HD! ❤️
Helene's wearing short shorts, nice. OH GOD, SO IS PHIL!!!
Naught to do with his wearing shorts, but I just learned that Phil is about the same build as Henry VIII was (before he got morbidly obese and very sick). Phil actually fit into a replica suit of Henry's armor that's maintained at one of the Tudor castles.
"Who wears short shorts! We wear short shorts!" 🎵
👍😁👍
He has such yummy legs. Phil is just my type...le sigh 💘
You know it’s going to be a good episode when Phil has his cut-off shorts on.
Maybe the bodies are in that pond you two were sitting beside when you were talking (11:20) about the bodies being near "mud or water". Just a thought. Oh, and I almost forgot, excellent show, very enjoyable. Thank you.
I had that thought.
@@ebybeehoney
So did I actually. 😋
Ha! I'm glad i wasn't the only one with that thought
I thought the same!
It sounds like stagnant water thst would have a definite stench not a pond
Seeing what Tony is wearing each day is almost as exciting as the artifacts they uncover.
Unravelling the Hopton castle of the first quarter of 17th century. 1620s to 1640s.... Thanks for educating us
I'd be jumping up and down, hooting and hollering if I'd just found that coin. What a moment!
IKR! Here in the US, I'm tickled pink on the fairly rare occasion that I detect something like a pre-1964 silver coin. Can't even imagine living somewhere with ancient stuff all beneath me!
"Even a common old Agricultural type like me perhaps."
I like him.
The motivation to get there? Often depends on what's at stake.
Thank u time team. Very good stuff.
Again, just excellent presentation and documentary.
This is Amazing! Thanks so much for sharing. A lot of work went into this.... 🇨🇦🐢❤️
Wow, the graphic enhancements in this episode makes it SO much better than most I've watched. I mean most viewers are not archaeologists, so we can't see what the heck these people are talking about most of the time!
Thanks for posting.
I loved the Time Team episodes. Phil Harding is cool. I have visited Malmesbury, Devises as well. I took the train to Swindon & the bus to Malmesbury and stayed in a nice B&B
I think you be surprised to know how many people you can kill in a bottle neck.. "bottle necks" is a main design in building castles/defenses...
. You have a very good program . A tiny bit of CGI for the dopamine hit (which actually helps us be more attentive and therefore more knowledgeable ,( something nobody ever talks about) .and you are" Masters of the Universe". A side piece between you (Tony), and Phil, would be amusing I think . I find the battle in 9 A.D. In the "dark forests of Germany" The total military blunder by Varus ,likely one of the biggest ever made I think. The retiring of the 17th,18th and 19th legions . Arminius !. Had he succeeded in uniting the German tribes where Germany would be today . We "slipped back in to prehistory" as I heard someone say on this channel. All very ,very interesting .The big "What if" ? Another program is warranted . Thanking you in advance.
Oh my! Phil is such a card! I bet he is a lot of fun to work with!
Hate is a weak emotion and a sign of failure which has changed beautiful landscapes into quiet ruins
I know...
@Zena Fanom what christians did to basically the entire middle east, and each others homes throughout britain.
@Rose Treiger sounds like an accurate description for almost any religion really, tbf, christianity is right up there with islam.
As you can see by the comments here ......times haven't really changed all that much.
Will we ever learn from the past and learn to respect & get along with one another or are we doomed to keep re-living the past?
I hate all the hateful haters in the comments. Now, which one of you is gonna fight me?
The English Civil war seemed to have torn down every stinking castle, and fortified manor in Great Britain. Imagine how many of these structures would have still existed in a better state had the whole event not happened.
We have 3,500 of them in Ireland
I'm sure one of the subsequent kings would have found a reason to destroy them, even if not time and nature probably would, as they would see them as a potential threat.
Ya, I had the same thoughts, with some nostalgie and deception concerning all that have been lost throughout history just because of "wars"!
Hello time team ! I see that you do 3-days at these locations but do you ever go back to the same locations when you have more time, information, newer technology & money to do so ? 🤔🤔🤔
Something's rotten in Denm... no, in the cellar.
Did Tony really wear the same loud shirt and red pants
on every day of the dig??
How did Helen get Phil's shorts?
The whole country is one big battlefield! The bluntskulls against the fops.
Loveeee Phil's extra long Daisy Dukes...😆🤗
i could watch any documentary with tony robinson as the host
Was here Dec 2019
Me!! I luv to learn. 👻🖑
✊
Fantastic episode
I really hope someone goes and digs up the rest of that cellar one day...
IF the account the lady has in her hand was written by the garrison Commander "in the moment" and survived his death, it probably is pretty factual. He didn't have time to invest his reputation by embellishment. He didn't have the time.
If I recall correctly he was the only one they spared. That's how the document survived too I guess. Otherwise it would have ended up in a ditch with him.
What's with the shirt? It looks blood splattered to me. Where were you in August 28 1651, Tony?
The age of the programs are in direct proportion to the amount of hair tony has, and in inverse proportion to his waistline.
sweet.
So true! 🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣absolutely brilliant
Oh god, i replied to that comment and then saw I had already done it before.....I can't remember doing it......yikes!😥
Phil and his voice give me Puddleglum + Sam Gamgee vibes. 💗
Yes! Something has been nagging me about him for many episodes. Good call.
10:02 what an awesome view.
🤔 (19:43) Uh, excuse me Miss, but your shirt is falling off...
Right? It's not even a loose shirt.???
She Who Knows All Haha! I was sewing on a machine while I watched. I hadn’t even noticed!
A rather sassy lass isn’t she?
She fancy baldrick 👀🤷♀️
I think she did that because the angle of the camera would have had some major cleav. had she worn her shirt properly .
It is important to remember that once the wall was breached the attackers had every right to massacre the defenders by the rules of war at the time. This was to encourage besieged forces to surrender and thus prevent unnecessary effusion of blood in a hopeless cause. The Parliamentarians followed the same rule in their seiges.
Finally, a sane voice in the wilderness...
The American came out in me at about 6:50 when he said "the civil war equivalent of the Alamo". I'm like wait, the battle at the Alamo wasn't during the civil war... ohhh he means the English Civil War. It's an analogy. I get it now
I caught that as well & got the idea they said that to give us an idea about the numbers on both sides? But as
these things go IDKnow much about our own history let alone the English historical events. Interesting, yes!
Civil wars are anything but civil.
English Language comprehension failure.
"The Civil War equivalent of X" means that X did NOT happen in the Civil War, but at some other time,and this is an analogous situation DURING the civil war being discussed.
@@dirkgently120 the moment you feel the overwhelming need to explain that which was already explained in the original comment. 🙄
I wish they’d taught us more about this war in American schools! So much interesting history!
You guys Amazing !!!!!!!!!!
A rather sobering account. Thanks Tony.
Well, come back Boldrick. I feel happy to listen to your pronunciation.
Why do you only dig for 3 days? if you want to find evidence why couldn't you schedule a couple months of digging.. The land owner knows you would repair it back to how you found it.
they cannot afford so many top-archaeologist-hours
@@stanislavkostarnov2157 I understand. Just wish they would stick with the site until the answer is found. The information they learned in 3 days was amazing. Can you imagine 3 months?
The show is cleverly disguised as an archaeological testing crew. They come in and check the site out for validity. If something of major importance, which to me all history is important, or needs more time...a full team comes out and continues the dig. Yes, after the show it is usually reburied and protected until that later team comes. The three days are just for television and testing, love.
I wonder if it has to do with legality reasons?
08:00 Jeesus! Look at that countryside! ...STUNNING!...
Yes! Can you imagine living in one of those nearby homes! ❤
Gotta love Phil’s shorts 😉
Thanks.
Why the heck so much sympathy for the round heads? They went on to murder a king! Damn Cromwell...
Evans... Thomas... Jones. Some of the most common names in the USA. All Welsh. Never knew that.
At 38:40 , what they were calling a musket ball actually looked like a carved head (with nose, mouth, eyes, and ears)!!
Hey, you got a valid point there. Either it was a musket ball (well sort of) carved by a soldier in his free time before battle to look like a human head. These were lead balls so can be carved easily. Or that's totally not a musket ball and a piece of an icon or a figurine.
Question for anyone who knows, she read the list of "Welsh sounding names, Evans, Thomas, Jones"..... I know how difficult and multi-syllabic Welsh place names are, why such simple family names?
9:49 - Who are you calling a moron? OH. '...more on...' Really should watch, as well as listen, I suppose.
As a wargaming enthusiast myself, I was having difficulty understanding why the little toy soldiers were painted with enamel instead of acrylic. Enamel is fine for larger pieces, smaller ones lose their details with enamel.
Well Phil & Tony, based on what Cromwell's men did to loyalists (not a mistake I meant loyalists not royalists. Cromwell was a traitor who turned out to be worse than the king), I would not call the men in the castle anything other the "the criminals under siege."
7 ads is a bit much, wouldn't you say?
@NuvYou Unfortunately that only helps if you're using a traditional browser.
If it means this channel can continue to exist and continue uploading these episodes, I won't complain.
wich ads?
We’re all lucky it’s free here. They need funds! Have you ever seen American TV commercials? We have blocks of 5-15 commercials at least 3-5 times throughout a show!
Erin Connelly I’m American and I’m so used to the ads I find it funny when people complain about them
20:07 Isolated, afraid but very well fed....
Wait, how is jacob james? Names don't have meaning, how could one mean another? Did they not use the name jacob at the time? I mean clearly they did... Did they take the two words to mean the same? But... names don't have meaning... lol, thats confusing
27:58 I LOVE how that guy on the left is just enjoying Phil's reaction! He's doing what we all wish we could do, just stand next to Phil and crack up lol
If you dig at medieval ruins you always find lots of gold coins and treasures
I found a box of silver dollar Morgan's & other coins and a box within a box had 1800's silverware, both in one day. Best find in over 30 yrs of metal detecting.
If you go to a beach at low tide and find clay, or rocks that's a good place to metal detect also cause that's where the best goodies are found.
19:00 Why did she pull down her sleeve intentionally? Why? Why?
She did it just to annoy you.
I dont know. And I dont care. Isnt it nice that in the West we can wear what we want and dont get stoned?
@@juanzulu1318 in the east no one gets stoned for wearing whatever they want. But scientist usually show off their brain, not anything else.
@@ezbayt8723 by pulling her already too-small clothes down to show the unsightly.
@@learnbahasaindonesia3361 i see. So they just get raped or slashed instead. That is of course much better, right?
A similar situation with missing bodies exists at Little bighorn in montana... Because reports from the soldiers following the battle and burial of the dead mention discovering the bodies of twenty eight troopers "in a deep ravine". There is a location called Deep Ravine but no digs or surveys ever showed signs of the bodies. It is my belief that those missing twenty eight troopers actually were in what is known as Cemetery Ravine. I say that because the bodies of Boston Custer and Autie Reed were found lying in that direction.
Interesting.
Phil's shorts are shorter than my attention span.
Hpton Castle is the Alamo of the English civil war.
I love this show.
I have a cunning plan.
@Eugene Oisten its as cunning as a fox who is Master of Cunning at Oxford.
I'm ashamed to say I can never remember the guys name. All that comes up is Baldrick. >_
@@Adjuni Tony Robinson
hahaha lol that brings back memories
@@blackbird5634 Thank you. :)
You should go back to old episodes and make a meme/giff of Neil saying "Trust me Tony!!" over and over. Depending how many times he said it you could end up with a pretty long clip. Tonight I have watched three episodes where he said it not counting this one. You have four to start with.
It's like a song....
"Trust me Tony!, Trust me Tony!,
You have to believe me.
Trust me Tony!, Trust me Tony!
It's going to have a wall."
Trust me Tony!, Trust me Tony!
We have a find.
Granted I am not a song writer...just my try.
10:12, girlfriend, put that shirt back on correctly
Honey, if you're taking about shirts, look at 19:05. Heck her whole top is falling off!
@@judyvalencia3257 poor lass thought it was cute lol
@@chowder8802 Perhaps that provides additional incentive to go into archaeology!
Did you know that Humpty was a cannon?
If you refused to surrender three times after having caused heavy losses you couldn't expect to be kept alive in those days. To speak of a war crime is seemingly not correct.
Considering the brutality of the supposed killings, I think Tony was just using the term out of context.
Agree, no such thing as a war crime in those days. Chivalry just meant that if you raped your house servant, you asked her to surrender 3 times before murdering her shredded dignity.
Love the show, but why was the digging limited? Why not more archaeology here?
Oh, how I do agree with you Chris. Perhaps they should change the shows name to "Timed Team"
The archaeology is continued after the three days. But by another archaeological team. The Time Team television show is more like a test of the site. To see if there is anything to find and if further archaeology is necessary. But, most scheduled sites and listed buildings have a limit of how many trenches can be dug as well as the size of such trenches.
These trollish comments about religion and politics always pop up on Timeline videos. It's rather disappointing.
It proves one thing.....Even after all this time folks seem to still think the same, and spread, anger, hatred...and whatever else and just seem to want to start fights of some kind.
It's really sad.
Cromwell did nothing wrong...
WEIRD !!
YOUR COMMENT WAS THE FIRST TO MENTION BOTH !!.... EH ??
Family: So what did you do for Christmas?
Me: ...
What season and episode number is this...anyone?
"... loyal to Parliament". Nope. The war was between two monarchist factions, one loyal to the Stewarts, the other loyal to the Cromwell family.
Really?
Jack Mason Cromwell was a parliamentarian
If I knew that I only had three days to take a look see, I believe I would start 2 or 3 years before.
why not use LIDAR to find potential walls?
I wish I could get paid for prancing around in shorts exploring English castles. Nice work if you can get it.
I'm glad they included the bit at 16:40 where the local fellow calls out Tony for his assumptions. Even before this I was getting dismayed at how this show is stuffing in "evidence" to fit the narrative of the pre-conceived outcome. It's entertainment but it's not archaeology. Science has to let the chips fall where they may. This is more like those ghost hunter shows where every noise and shadow down the hallway is "maybe" a spirit but they still manage to strike out. I will continue watching from 16:40 now because it is entertaining.
That "local fellow" you are referring to is Dr. Phil Harding, who was actually a long time member of Tony Robinson's Time Team. As for him calling Tony out, this often occurs in the series when initial speculation of the nature of a site is contradicted by the archaeological evidence. The fact that the excavations of Time Team are undertaken by professional archaeologists and are supervised by employees of the National Trust should show you that in no way is the evidence ever made to fit the theory in this series, but vice versa, as it should be. Tony Robinson often plays the Devil's Advocate in the series, questioning the theories of the professionals with a twinkle in his eye - it is just part of the entertainment, as is Phil Harding's rebutting. Furthermore, as you will see towards the end of the episode, at about 47:00 minutes onwards, it is actually Tony Robinson himself who questions whether the brief the team received from the local archaeological society has been sufficiently fulfilled or not.
So, the tower is just an elaborate townhouse built on a motif to imply power. Had the tower survived the civil war, I'm sure it would still be lived in today, had the roof been maintained.
All I hear when the host is narating is Bullrick from Blackadder Xd
I keep expecting him to say, "I have a cunning plan" while talking to the experts... but he never does. =(
Hahaha so true!
How does one learn to be a "castles expert"?
Had to laugh at the guy shooting the rifle ..
I think it's a musket, not a rifle
Can anyone tell me when this was filmed??
I don't c mick so I thought they were making them again..
It was broadcast in May 2010 so maybe summer/autumn of 2009.
RIP Mick
amybarb25 oh no! What’s happened?
Mick passed away a while ago. Huge loss.
19:50 yeah jones and Evans are welsh enough, but you can gat more welsh the than the “ap Edward’s”
I hope there was a follow up to this! Was there any update with another team? They didn’t find bodies but maybe another dig did?
Ya, very good question indeed. I'd love to know too! They should regularly come back to their preciously excavated sites.... or maybe theuy should do at least 2 episodes per site! Yeah, i think that'd be awesome!
why do they only ever do 3 days of digging?
To show how much can be done in a weekend . It was part of the pretense of the show, I believe they talked about it the pilot.
This damn timeline video keeps interrupting all the wonderful ads☹
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good n fizzy
"...we were praying to find a mass grave." Do what?
Praying. To find a mass grave. Like you do.
its called .. archaeology , you know , this is a archaeological programme , dimwit ..
@@wayneandrews9298 It's called a joke... Intentional ellipsis... Dimwit.
Let's just hope they always at least remember to look at the maps.. what ever you do. First, look at maps provided. If any. Unlike that one episode, where they wasted all this time which could have been prevented.
Tony Robinson is wonderful.
Did anyone else notice there was something about castles in between the ads. amazing how they can do that now. no but adguard adblocker wipes them out...
Who looks better in shorts, Helen or Phil?
Here again in 2020
Let this be a lesson.....never surrender
The actual lesson is: Surrender the first time you're given the chance, instead of refusing several times and massacring a few hundred attackers first.
Great documentary ruined by too many commercials
3:23 I always laugh when I see film of cannons being discharged on these show...always absolutely zero recoil...