this democratic path is especially weird cause the “elect a democratic king” path doesn’t require you to fight a civil war, still lets you form this exact same faction, and gives you the option to core all of romania and sweden and also diplomatically get stuff like croatia and slovakia back, all while still being a democracy.
After seeing quite some talk about how some people want to be able to make a non monarchist democratic Germany, this is pretty much just due to that here, its a way to go democratic while not having a king at all.
To be fair, “democratic” in this game’s context can be pretty broad a term. So a Hungarian “Democratic” monarchy could still very well be expansionist and seeking to reclaim old Hungarian lands all the while favoring the “western democracies” in terms of geo-politics.
11:00 yeah that's an oversight, note Austria did not get annexed, cause they get an event if they join any faction where the Anschluss gets canceled completely. Paradox just needs to quickly throw in some sort of AI behavior that makes even historical Czechoslovakia say no to the demands if they are in any faction since the Austrians do have that. Also the Communist path you didn't like has an achievement to take Leningrad , so it's one of the reasons to play it if you do achievement hunting, so you'll be revisting that path in the future if you plan to hit 100% still . So you could've easily pulled it if of you jumped into the Axis when you got invited honestly.
on that last point, it works, I did it, Germans jumped in on the Czechs while I was trying to cap them, and I joined them. Then I built up for a while, and declared on Romania and Yugoslavia. Really confused the AI though, and after valiantly fighting on the Eastern Front, I had to abandon Moscow and Stalingrad to grab Leningrad, since the Allies had D-dayed and crossed the Rhine. In '43.
If you’re interested in something kinda funny, democratic Germany can peacefully annex most (if not all) the balkans, Eastern Europe and Scandinavia with the EU part of their tree
The Danube doesn’t flow through Greece or Yugoslavia so you need more rivers. Also the Mississippi doesn’t flow through Mexico so instead you’d have to use the rio grande
Its so wild that after all these years paradox still hasnt fixed these decision based surrenders (Sudetenland & Bessarabia). Surely there should be a “is in a faction” or “is in a player faction” check to prevent this. Imagine spending hours in a game just so the ai gives up before you even get to fight, very fun indeed
This is because he was playing on historical There is a very small chance to say no when playing historical, but essentially it is 0. You can't tell countries to act historically and then do a pikachu-surprise face when countries do what they did historically
@ I disagree with your logic. If historical mode was intended to be a 1-1 representation of ww2 there wouldnt be any alternate focus tree branches to begin with (would be automatically locked as soon as you select historical gamemode). With that same logic, AI nations would have been scripted to always refuse your non-historical proposals (such as joining the danubian federation/faction or other similar non-historical events). Therefore it is not unreasonable to expect that the AI script should follow some common sense, such as adapting their behaviour to match with their choices (example: being less likely to surrender/land concession if they joined a power block (danubian federation) whose very purpose is to prevent big powers to bully little powers). The AI not adapting its behaviour defeats the entire purpose of this focus tree path and makes it feel hollow. Why would player inputs matter if some nations/decisions do not adapt to ahistorical changes? Imagine a hypothetical example: Italy (a core member of the historical axis powers) turns communist but still allies with germany and fights the soviets. Now extends this scenario to romania, finland, etc. Now, that is wild… in fact just as wild as Czechoslovakia and romania surrendering land as if they hadnt agreed to join a defensive pact moments ago. In fact, “historical mode” is a poor excuse. After all, this game is supposed to be a simulation of “what ifs” rather than watching a noninteractive movie. “Ahistorical mode” simply forces the ai to pick alternative focus tree paths. Similarly, “historical mode” simply encourages the ai to act APPROXIMATELY historical, but that does not take away a game’s responsibility to react and adapt to player input (eg creation of ahistorical danubian federation) & to follow common sense decision making to avoid breaking immersion (eg avoiding contradictions such as joining dabubian federation but being hard scripted to nearly always surrender). Otherwise, whats the point of even playing the game?
It’s even worse with Denmark. I’ve had troops on their border with Germany defending them. Have done most of the shared Nordic tree, every Nordic country can pull their weight… then Germany declares and all it takes is 1hr for Denmark to submit to becoming a puppet. Shits annoying as hell
Perfect showcase of Paradox adding all those features - they get added only to the countries that DLC is focused at, and the rest either gets a generic replacement or nothing at all. Just makes it more infuriating to play any of the older DLC countries seeing that you don't get half the good content, not even focuses but just the fun mechanics that were added later
@@ProfessorGreg_ i dunno what you mean, both Austria and Hungary are great fun imo. Like Austria does surpringly well with all its recruitable pop focuses
oh fun fact, if you get Albania in your faction as Austria or Hungary, they actually get access to the Austro-Hungarian shared tree. And since they otherwise have only generic focuses, Albania ends up being the one to actually do most of those focuses.
The Kun Bela tree really isn’t bad, you get an insane industry after dealing with the stability problems. After doing Gyori program focuses you easily get 1943 tanks and 1944 planes by 1941. The lack of land demand mechanics and having to go to war with everyone sucks, as historically he was one of the most proactive politicians seeking re-annexation of old Hungarian territory. (Yes 1919, yes by attacking everyone) Also Gömbös died in 1936, so that’s how you usually get rid of him.
Me and a friend did democratic austria and hungary. Combining the right side of the democratic Hungarian tree with the combined tree and an advisor left me with +80% cav defence and 60% attack if I remember correctly
The "fun" (?) thing about playing non-historical is that there can be two Danubian federations at the same time, one formed by Hungary, one formed by Austria
Funny thing: After new dlc if you get in the monarchist path of Poland and get Slovakia from the focus, Germany gets the puppet except the southern Slovakia state no matter what you do. And there happens a strange thing where the game just tells you both Poland and the Slovakia puppet control the land at the same time? But you don't get anything from there? Very stupid, I hope paradox will fix it soon.
Romania has the same problem if you split Czechoslovakia with Germany and you receive Slovakia as a puppet they will take it back from you after Germany do some focuse. You can't take Yougo because the decision is grey out... you can't send back requested forces from Bulgaria (if they don't do some focuse)
Maybe im just bad but i prefer it the way it was over the mess that it is now. The Mussolini balancing and instant civil wars + stability hits when you don’t win 100% of the time is horrendous and sucks the joy out of it.
In his case the borders hadn’t been set yet and were only provisional demarcation lines. In czechoslovakia sort of? He did attack them but in the case of Romania, they were already occupying Hungary up to the Tisza, much to the annoyance of the Entente.
I highly recommend you check out and play the "Fight for the Fatherland" mod, as it arguably has the best Communist focus tree for Germany (yes, even better than the one added in the newest DLC)
The old monarch path was pretty good, gave a lot of cores, pp bonuses, industry, and the option for expanded claims into the levant. The other paths did suck though.
From my one game as Austria I've done thus far, if Austria joins a faction (maybe there are some other requirements too?) then Germany can no longer do the Anschluss because they are protected, which would explain why Austria survived this run. The Czechs also denied Sudetenland in my game, but from this video I guess having a Danubian / Austro-Hungarian faction does not guarantee that. Haven't looked into it fully, but there shouldn't be any worry about an Austrian ally getting eaten up inevitably without your say at least.
I did the communist tree with Bela kun and it actually was quite easily, if I recall Czechoslovakia is quite an easy fight, they line up their border with Germany even when you're fighting them so they don't have their whole army on your frontline so if you're able to get a few encirclements you should be able to just walk into the territory after that. After you've finished off Czechoslovakia you put a 10 or so divisions on a fallback line past the river so when you declare on Yugoslavia Romania is cover and you can use your main army to take them out and then turn on the weakened Romanians afterwards
1:43 Literally the first person ever to pay attention to the Goulash Communism name. I was worried that everybody else acted like it's something you would say with a straight face
It was called like that in real life, it just means that they were willing to use some market reforms and being nicer to the populace, some kind of 'communism with a human face'
hello mister Isorrow, once you do the achievements for communist hungary I suggest you cheese it with the ''set path to country features''. Put the game in unhistorical but set the focuses of , czechoslovakia, austria, yugoslavia, romania, bulgaria, greece, turkey and france on historical. I did it that way and managed to get the balkan unification by 41 and then turned on the Soviets for the achievement.
I had a lot of fun on the right side for democratic Hungary on unhistorical. You get fair bit of cores and it was fun to fight over them in the various hyper wars.
The danubian federation would be ok if it made the members stop caving. Even a guaranteed war with germany and soviets would be interesting. Communist Hungary will just never be good without insane buffs. It's the hug box of all hugboxes.
Doing the tree in mp as Austria, Hungary, Czechs and Romania is very funny. Me and some friends did it, I just built planes as Hungary and together we conquered all of Europe
Interesting. I didnt get the munich agreement event on historical while during democratic hungary. I actually fought the war. Not like it mattered, croatia rose up and italy joined and we got overrun, as czechs didnt put enough soldiers on the german border
Given my Hungary based Austria-Hungary currently has 7mil manpower in reserve with 3 mil deployed while on Extensive Conscription. I'd say things are good.
Do only the nations who share the same ideology as you get the shared tree? I think this may be the case as I had a game where Yugo went down its democratic tree and every single nation it released got the shared tree which was pretty op.
The Hungarian focus tree needs fixing. I went down the Fascist king path to do greater Hungary, got the Czechs to give me Slovakia, cored it via decision and then the Germans did their focuses and Slovakia got released as a German puppet
I wonder if the problem with Democratic Hungary is that I believe it is hardcoded for the Czechs to say yes to the sudetenland and be annexed when Historical Focuses are turned on. My guess is there needs to be a ai check somewhere where the Czechs say no if they are in a faction (which I believe is pretty much always the case when Historical Focuses are turned off).
Can you do some sort of "guide" on how to make good divisions? I had a great infantry template before the update, but that template is now just absolute trash and can't stand up to anyone. It's so frustrating! I've no idea what makes these divisions good or bad or anything.
Sorrow in probably 30 years when Hearts of Iron 5 will be created you will have in Romanian focus tree a possibility to exit European Union and NATO by changing the leader to a Criminal. But it will be only possible in 2024
Prime example of how how fun a nation is depends on the situation they are in more than how good their focus tree is. A good focus tree makes a country fun but not necesarily. Japan has probably the worst major focus tree in the game right now with literally only 1 viable fun path. Yet their situation is so unique and flexible that you can have much different playthroughs depending on how you play them. You can still stay fascist, but invade the soviets after china and not go to war with the allies. You can avoid the US entry in the war. You can even go for south america making a pacific empire before hitting the US if you wish. Or even take on the axis if they (very rarely) beat the uk. While on the other hand there are countries with huge focus trees that you end up doing the same thing again and again. Like Hungary, Greece or all the south american countries and all the chinas. This is why the USSR, Italy and the new Germany for majors while also Poland? Austria and the scandinavian nations are the best imo. They have both different focus tree paths and flexible ways to play in the same paths.
TNO could have been my no 2 mod after OWB if it wasn't for the groypers involved in it's development at several points. I guess it comes with the theme of the mod but damn
I mean does the Munich Conference even make sense for the democratic path… The British and French guarantees disappear when the Czechs joined the faction. So wouldn’t it make sense for Hungary gets the event to support Czechoslovakia, potentially trading Czhecia for a Slovak puppet like in other trees.?
I find it very sad that most democratic nations have very lackluster trees. I would like to play democracies more often but it's rarely any fun. Mexico and Brazil have fun democratic paths tho.
The bela kun communist branch is historically what he would have gone for a second time around, because he went to war with everyone in the first round
I actually liked the Democratic Path, I just had better luck for it. I didn't get Romania in my faction and i didn't ask Austria because they went monarchist and was justifying one me, but they got annexed by Germany. But the Czechs refused Sudetenland, the war long and painful, but I did win. i do wish you can form the Danubian federation as a formable nation. but its not the worst path its meh if you like a different form of playing hoi4.
The Democratic tree could be amazing if they all have the shared focuses (including faction members) and if you could federalise the federation so that you don’t lose land to Germany/Italy/USSR. That would be amazing!
Sorry no slop callout, this was originally a main channel video. But thought it was better suited here.
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this democratic path is especially weird cause the “elect a democratic king” path doesn’t require you to fight a civil war, still lets you form this exact same faction, and gives you the option to core all of romania and sweden and also diplomatically get stuff like croatia and slovakia back, all while still being a democracy.
After seeing quite some talk about how some people want to be able to make a non monarchist democratic Germany, this is pretty much just due to that here, its a way to go democratic while not having a king at all.
To be fair, “democratic” in this game’s context can be pretty broad a term. So a Hungarian “Democratic” monarchy could still very well be expansionist and seeking to reclaim old Hungarian lands all the while favoring the “western democracies” in terms of geo-politics.
I feel like democratic in hoi4 is historical larp, alt-history world police or 'i want to do axis stuff, but I can't be bothered capping the UK'
And Romania
11:00 yeah that's an oversight, note Austria did not get annexed, cause they get an event if they join any faction where the Anschluss gets canceled completely. Paradox just needs to quickly throw in some sort of AI behavior that makes even historical Czechoslovakia say no to the demands if they are in any faction since the Austrians do have that.
Also the Communist path you didn't like has an achievement to take Leningrad , so it's one of the reasons to play it if you do achievement hunting, so you'll be revisting that path in the future if you plan to hit 100% still . So you could've easily pulled it if of you jumped into the Axis when you got invited honestly.
on that last point, it works, I did it, Germans jumped in on the Czechs while I was trying to cap them, and I joined them. Then I built up for a while, and declared on Romania and Yugoslavia.
Really confused the AI though, and after valiantly fighting on the Eastern Front, I had to abandon Moscow and Stalingrad to grab Leningrad, since the Allies had D-dayed and crossed the Rhine. In '43.
If you’re interested in something kinda funny, democratic Germany can peacefully annex most (if not all) the balkans, Eastern Europe and Scandinavia with the EU part of their tree
Can even get france if shit goes right and italy
The Danubian-Amazon-Mississippi Federation
The Three Rivers Alliance, just as God intended.
The Danube doesn’t flow through Greece or Yugoslavia so you need more rivers. Also the Mississippi doesn’t flow through Mexico so instead you’d have to use the rio grande
Balkamerican Federation
The Dam Federation.
@@goldenfiberwheat238 the Darg Federation
Its so wild that after all these years paradox still hasnt fixed these decision based surrenders (Sudetenland & Bessarabia). Surely there should be a “is in a faction” or “is in a player faction” check to prevent this. Imagine spending hours in a game just so the ai gives up before you even get to fight, very fun indeed
This is because he was playing on historical There is a very small chance to say no when playing historical, but essentially it is 0. You can't tell countries to act historically and then do a pikachu-surprise face when countries do what they did historically
@
I disagree with your logic. If historical mode was intended to be a 1-1 representation of ww2 there wouldnt be any alternate focus tree branches to begin with (would be automatically locked as soon as you select historical gamemode). With that same logic, AI nations would have been scripted to always refuse your non-historical proposals (such as joining the danubian federation/faction or other similar non-historical events). Therefore it is not unreasonable to expect that the AI script should follow some common sense, such as adapting their behaviour to match with their choices (example: being less likely to surrender/land concession if they joined a power block (danubian federation) whose very purpose is to prevent big powers to bully little powers). The AI not adapting its behaviour defeats the entire purpose of this focus tree path and makes it feel hollow. Why would player inputs matter if some nations/decisions do not adapt to ahistorical changes? Imagine a hypothetical example: Italy (a core member of the historical axis powers) turns communist but still allies with germany and fights the soviets. Now extends this scenario to romania, finland, etc. Now, that is wild… in fact just as wild as Czechoslovakia and romania surrendering land as if they hadnt agreed to join a defensive pact moments ago.
In fact, “historical mode” is a poor excuse. After all, this game is supposed to be a simulation of “what ifs” rather than watching a noninteractive movie. “Ahistorical mode” simply forces the ai to pick alternative focus tree paths. Similarly, “historical mode” simply encourages the ai to act APPROXIMATELY historical, but that does not take away a game’s responsibility to react and adapt to player input (eg creation of ahistorical danubian federation) & to follow common sense decision making to avoid breaking immersion (eg avoiding contradictions such as joining dabubian federation but being hard scripted to nearly always surrender). Otherwise, whats the point of even playing the game?
It’s even worse with Denmark. I’ve had troops on their border with Germany defending them. Have done most of the shared Nordic tree, every Nordic country can pull their weight… then Germany declares and all it takes is 1hr for Denmark to submit to becoming a puppet. Shits annoying as hell
The communist path works *really* well if you play non-historical. But at the same time, so does the monarchy path.
Perfect showcase of Paradox adding all those features - they get added only to the countries that DLC is focused at, and the rest either gets a generic replacement or nothing at all. Just makes it more infuriating to play any of the older DLC countries seeing that you don't get half the good content, not even focuses but just the fun mechanics that were added later
Yeah. Germany is good but the other nations... it's kind of hard to tell where the fun part begins.
@@ProfessorGreg_ Belgian congo is the worst nation ive ever played and the worst nation in the game by far
@@RyanWilson-qy7kb Try historical Yugoslavia
@@ProfessorGreg_ i dunno what you mean, both Austria and Hungary are great fun imo. Like Austria does surpringly well with all its recruitable pop focuses
@@thekommunistkrusader3921 That's true. I haven't played much of the other four nations so it might take time for me to get used to how they work.
oh fun fact, if you get Albania in your faction as Austria or Hungary, they actually get access to the Austro-Hungarian shared tree. And since they otherwise have only generic focuses, Albania ends up being the one to actually do most of those focuses.
"Damubian federation" looks inside the box: *Danubian loose confederation"
It’s not even Danubian. The Danube doesn’t flow through Greece
@@goldenfiberwheat238 "Danube and then some loose confederation"
The Kun Bela tree really isn’t bad, you get an insane industry after dealing with the stability problems. After doing Gyori program focuses you easily get 1943 tanks and 1944 planes by 1941.
The lack of land demand mechanics and having to go to war with everyone sucks, as historically he was one of the most proactive politicians seeking re-annexation of old Hungarian territory. (Yes 1919, yes by attacking everyone)
Also Gömbös died in 1936, so that’s how you usually get rid of him.
Hungarian Flavour was so much better than this.
@@9wowable No it wasnt
@@bighillraft Hungarian Flavour is peak
@@bighillraft Why you say that?
@@9wowable It still exist!
Me and a friend did democratic austria and hungary. Combining the right side of the democratic Hungarian tree with the combined tree and an advisor left me with +80% cav defence and 60% attack if I remember correctly
The "fun" (?) thing about playing non-historical is that there can be two Danubian federations at the same time, one formed by Hungary, one formed by Austria
Funny thing: After new dlc if you get in the monarchist path of Poland and get Slovakia from the focus, Germany gets the puppet except the southern Slovakia state no matter what you do. And there happens a strange thing where the game just tells you both Poland and the Slovakia puppet control the land at the same time? But you don't get anything from there?
Very stupid, I hope paradox will fix it soon.
So yeah, many things now suck for some reason XD
Romania has the same problem if you split Czechoslovakia with Germany and you receive Slovakia as a puppet they will take it back from you after Germany do some focuse. You can't take Yougo because the decision is grey out... you can't send back requested forces from Bulgaria (if they don't do some focuse)
bro forgot about the original italian focus tree
Maybe im just bad but i prefer it the way it was over the mess that it is now. The Mussolini balancing and instant civil wars + stability hits when you don’t win 100% of the time is horrendous and sucks the joy out of it.
Zoomer started a sentence with bro
@@JM-mg4el waa waa
7:59 ISP confirmed drainer
this is huge
to be fair the Bela Kun path is fairly accurate to what happened historically
In his case the borders hadn’t been set yet and were only provisional demarcation lines. In czechoslovakia sort of? He did attack them but in the case of Romania, they were already occupying Hungary up to the Tisza, much to the annoyance of the Entente.
I highly recommend you check out and play the "Fight for the Fatherland" mod, as it arguably has the best Communist focus tree for Germany (yes, even better than the one added in the newest DLC)
In the austrian danubian federation path, they actually get options to puppet your faction members, but AI almost never accepts and it kinda sucks
7:55 reverse the brain DRAIN GANG? sweden drain gang path mod??
Bobsempletank only world conquest when?
They removed the bob semple take from the game i believe 😢
They got rid of it with the No Step Back DLC I'm pretty sure
18:05 Brazil as a member of the Danubian Federation Juscelino Kubitschek would be proud and honored
Who
@@goldenfiberwheat238 a president of Brazil who was of Czech descent
@ oh
The old monarch path was pretty good, gave a lot of cores, pp bonuses, industry, and the option for expanded claims into the levant.
The other paths did suck though.
The Democratic King path is funnily enough actually kinda good
From my one game as Austria I've done thus far, if Austria joins a faction (maybe there are some other requirements too?) then Germany can no longer do the Anschluss because they are protected, which would explain why Austria survived this run.
The Czechs also denied Sudetenland in my game, but from this video I guess having a Danubian / Austro-Hungarian faction does not guarantee that.
Haven't looked into it fully, but there shouldn't be any worry about an Austrian ally getting eaten up inevitably without your say at least.
Worst focus tree? We aint talk about "together for victory" focuses
Austria taking parts of France, that was Historically personal.
Worst Focus Path?...
That one where you become free as New Zealand and, well...
finally the danish focus tree rework
0:32 DONT YOU DARE DISS HORTHY!
I did the communist tree with Bela kun and it actually was quite easily, if I recall Czechoslovakia is quite an easy fight, they line up their border with Germany even when you're fighting them so they don't have their whole army on your frontline so if you're able to get a few encirclements you should be able to just walk into the territory after that. After you've finished off Czechoslovakia you put a 10 or so divisions on a fallback line past the river so when you declare on Yugoslavia Romania is cover and you can use your main army to take them out and then turn on the weakened Romanians afterwards
I like when he was talking about how he felt about the democratic tree while the Soviets just kept taking more and more of Italy.
They should have made a special mechanic for the Danubian Federation like the one for the EU in the Millenium Dawn Mod
10:00 also Albania get the focus tree
1:43 Literally the first person ever to pay attention to the Goulash Communism name. I was worried that everybody else acted like it's something you would say with a straight face
That’s genuinely what the Kádár era economic policy was called. 💀
@9wowable lmao, thank you
*(The more you know 🌈⭐)*
It was called like that in real life, it just means that they were willing to use some market reforms and being nicer to the populace, some kind of 'communism with a human face'
10:36 Germany with Czechia but not Austria just looks so cursed
15:33 that should be blurred
I can't wait to see you do the King Horthy Branch
Isp is calling every focus tree "the worst focus tree"
A nuclear armed Hungary with Ed Teller heading their program is spooky
hello mister Isorrow, once you do the achievements for communist hungary I suggest you cheese it with the ''set path to country features''. Put the game in unhistorical but set the focuses of , czechoslovakia, austria, yugoslavia, romania, bulgaria, greece, turkey and france on historical. I did it that way and managed to get the balkan unification by 41 and then turned on the Soviets for the achievement.
Nowhere in this video do I see any rework on Japan's focustree.
With non-historical AI the Czechs never say yes to the Sudetenland if they’re in a faction
Goulash goulash goulash to make up for the lack of SLOP
Horthy looks like frumpy Nathan Fillion
I had a lot of fun on the right side for democratic Hungary on unhistorical. You get fair bit of cores and it was fun to fight over them in the various hyper wars.
The danubian federation would be ok if it made the members stop caving. Even a guaranteed war with germany and soviets would be interesting.
Communist Hungary will just never be good without insane buffs. It's the hug box of all hugboxes.
This video is in 2p and quality is unavailable. Makes sense.
Doing the tree in mp as Austria, Hungary, Czechs and Romania is very funny.
Me and some friends did it, I just built planes as Hungary and together we conquered all of Europe
“We haven’t play tested this” Hungary
I would think South Africa would have the worst focus trees
Why is horthy so ugly now bro
Biblically accurate Horthy
Suffers from this little known incurable disease known as being hungarian
Just like any other femboy
Interesting. I didnt get the munich agreement event on historical while during democratic hungary. I actually fought the war. Not like it mattered, croatia rose up and italy joined and we got overrun, as czechs didnt put enough soldiers on the german border
this has way too much care for my slop-infested brain
2:04 Actually kinda nailed it the first try
0 views in 23 seconds?
Isp has fallen, billions must play March of The Eagles
Who's ISP? This is iSorrow, read the channel name.
Put this on to sleep to but it was actually somewhat entertaining. God damn it
Given my Hungary based Austria-Hungary currently has 7mil manpower in reserve with 3 mil deployed while on Extensive Conscription. I'd say things are good.
Calling Hungary the worst focus tree is diabolical with the existence of Czechoslovak focus tree
1:25 Gömbös Gyuszi bácsi!
I WANT TO SEE THE MONGOL USA MEGA GRAND CAMPAIGN THE AMERICAN HORSE LORDS
Do only the nations who share the same ideology as you get the shared tree? I think this may be the case as I had a game where Yugo went down its democratic tree and every single nation it released got the shared tree which was pretty op.
The Hungarian focus tree needs fixing. I went down the Fascist king path to do greater Hungary, got the Czechs to give me Slovakia, cored it via decision and then the Germans did their focuses and Slovakia got released as a German puppet
I wonder if the problem with Democratic Hungary is that I believe it is hardcoded for the Czechs to say yes to the sudetenland and be annexed when Historical Focuses are turned on. My guess is there needs to be a ai check somewhere where the Czechs say no if they are in a faction (which I believe is pretty much always the case when Historical Focuses are turned off).
Can you do some sort of "guide" on how to make good divisions? I had a great infantry template before the update, but that template is now just absolute trash and can't stand up to anyone. It's so frustrating! I've no idea what makes these divisions good or bad or anything.
I fell asleep for 4 and a half hours to this video.
What about the horthy king path?
Sorrow in probably 30 years when Hearts of Iron 5 will be created you will have in Romanian focus tree a possibility to exit European Union and NATO by changing the leader to a Criminal. But it will be only possible in 2024
Prime example of how how fun a nation is depends on the situation they are in more than how good their focus tree is. A good focus tree makes a country fun but not necesarily. Japan has probably the worst major focus tree in the game right now with literally only 1 viable fun path. Yet their situation is so unique and flexible that you can have much different playthroughs depending on how you play them. You can still stay fascist, but invade the soviets after china and not go to war with the allies. You can avoid the US entry in the war. You can even go for south america making a pacific empire before hitting the US if you wish. Or even take on the axis if they (very rarely) beat the uk. While on the other hand there are countries with huge focus trees that you end up doing the same thing again and again. Like Hungary, Greece or all the south american countries and all the chinas. This is why the USSR, Italy and the new Germany for majors while also Poland? Austria and the scandinavian nations are the best imo. They have both different focus tree paths and flexible ways to play in the same paths.
Drain gang….
I tried the austro hungary tree after your video and halfway through romania pupperted me randomly
The US and Brazil have two of the worlds longest rivers so honorary Danubians in my book.
The democratic monarchist path looks like it's really good
TNO could have been my no 2 mod after OWB if it wasn't for the groypers involved in it's development at several points. I guess it comes with the theme of the mod but damn
some of the released yugolavian states get the austria-hungry shared tree
Wow Hungary's sacks are hangin low from4:40
2:01 the first pronunciation is (almost) correct
I mean does the Munich Conference even make sense for the democratic path… The British and French guarantees disappear when the Czechs joined the faction. So wouldn’t it make sense for Hungary gets the event to support Czechoslovakia, potentially trading Czhecia for a Slovak puppet like in other trees.?
Hungary tree so good, we went down 2
I find it very sad that most democratic nations have very lackluster trees. I would like to play democracies more often but it's rarely any fun. Mexico and Brazil have fun democratic paths tho.
Still way better than it was before
20:37 He's traumatised from playing non historical ai.
Bear in mind, Hungary is a small country, you usually need to adjust to others. Not sure if that's a thing tho.
Still waiting for Czechoslovakia tree remake
Thankyou slopdaddy
horthy looks like markus söder in the worst way possible
It’s time for the mega campain
Can you do antischluss achievement with austria?
The bela kun communist branch is historically what he would have gone for a second time around, because he went to war with everyone in the first round
You sneaky rat, hiding the cheese all the way back here in iSorrow
Nothing will ever beat the horrible TNO path for Sweden...
Czechoslovakia giving up instantly is an accurate moment.
But extremely boring @paradox
March of the Eagles A-Z when
In democratic path they rejected the germany it was austria i suppose, and whole danubian federation went into war. It is just rng i guess
I actually liked the Democratic Path, I just had better luck for it. I didn't get Romania in my faction and i didn't ask Austria because they went monarchist and was justifying one me, but they got annexed by Germany. But the Czechs refused Sudetenland, the war long and painful, but I did win. i do wish you can form the Danubian federation as a formable nation. but its not the worst path its meh if you like a different form of playing hoi4.
he looks like neil Flynn from scrusbs thats all i see
They updated new Zealand? When?
Hungary mentioned
HUNGARY NUMBER ONE 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🦅🦅🦅🦅
The Democratic tree could be amazing if they all have the shared focuses (including faction members) and if you could federalise the federation so that you don’t lose land to Germany/Italy/USSR. That would be amazing!