Here's some trivial for you guys, the high pitch sound you hear at the start of the intro titles @ 1:10 is actually the sound of a seal whistling in its sleep. I found a video of the seal and thought the whistle had an old school 70s science fiction laser sound about it so I incorporated it into the intro music :)
I had to re-listen to it. It does sound like some weird laser sound. If I snuck up behind a seal at night and heard that I would run away thinking I was being chased by a UFO.
I was in high school in Dallas in the early seventies. They sent out a casting call to all the area high schools for extras to be in Logan's Run. It said, "If you think you are beautiful, come audition," or words to that effect. This caused uproars as some strutted forward and others jeered. In the end, they took everyone who showed up. The carousal scene was filmed in a shopping center down the road from me. The water fountain in Ft. Worth was featured and hasn't changed. The other venues have all been reborn after they reached the age of thirty.
Surprising when I found out one of my fav SciFi movies was filmed about 275 miles from where I live. I visited DFW a lot back in the mid 70's to mid 80's. Did the extras get paid or just volunteered their service?
@@clivebaxter6354 You certainly are entitled to your opinion. Personally I didn't recall any bad acting, Jennifer Aguitar is HOT, and the film was mystical when it was new. It was cutting edge for it's time despite some parts which seem dated, such as the metal man.
@@rockeroller Hot ? you must have very odd standards then, she always came across like a stroppy schoolgirl Blade runner and 2001 were cutting edge, not this run of the mill romp.
@@clivebaxter6354 Logan's Run is easily up there with both of those films because of its themes, that said Blade Runner is beaten by its own sequel in the exploration of the themes central to that franchise and both LR & BR do follow a similar story arc with both main characters being defenders of the status quo having their perception of the world challenged. Blade Runner was 'cutting edge' because of its aesthetic more than anything whereas Logan's Run sits very firmly in the style set in the 60's. Get over that and Logan's Run is a truly excellent bit of Sci-Fi.
@@clivebaxter6354 Agreed. York is wetter than a fishes wet bits, Agutter is only there because she built her entire career on going nude/ wearing very little, the plot is stodgy and slow and Ustinov must have been drunk when he agreed to play the "wise man". All in all a hugely disjointed disappointment.
I always enjoy watching Logan’s Run. It is one of my top sci-fi movies from that era. I too fell in love with Jenny Agutter. Her costume was perfect!!!!! Thanks for another great movie review Minty!!!
I love Logans Run. It's one of my favorite moves along with The Planet of the Apes, Westworld, Soylent Green, The Omega Man, and Disney's The Black Hole. They knew how to make movies back then. Now its all blood and gore.
First movie I ever saw twice in the theatre. Watched it on a Friday, fell in love with the story (and Jenny), and convinced my parents to go back and watch it on Sunday. Couldn't get enough of it. Bought a Tshirt with Farrah on it, bought the books, the soundtrack. Started me down the rabbit hole for SciFi. Star Wars the next year completely flipped me upside down. Bought everything I could, including an original movie poster (1977) that I still have. How did they make that movie, what was the process, who did all of those special effects. I loved it so much that I knew I wanted to work in the movies - and have been so since moving to LA in the late 1980's.
"Star Wars the next year " Wow, was it really only a year later? In terms of the cinematography and effects, it seems like a much later film. Must admit though, for me at least, Logan's Run had a longer shelf life. I would watch Logan's Run today, whereas now that I am older than 13, I couldn't bear to watch any of the Star Wars movies. The original is the only one I ever managed to sit through until the end.
Saw Logans Run first at theater. Then Star Bores came out. Saw SW #1, thought it was stupid. Saw a preview of SW #2, the rubber puppet "Yoda," how stupid, no thanks. I hated Soylent Green, THX too. 2001 rules to this day. Then Event Horizon, Alien..
I've always felt there was a hint of a "garden of eden" angle to Logan's Run. Everyone lives in peace and harmony but when Logan gains the knowledge of what's outside, humanity is banned from the garden and must make their own way in the world.
Well, it's a Utopian vision, for sure. The movie confuses a simple and straightforward story! In the book, people have decided to not even TRY to restrict breeding, but the down side is that you can live to be twenty I think. 21? Then on your last day you go to be gassed, it's not a trick, you know what's going to happen! A few people don't go to the gas, and special police hunt them down and shoot them. That's the social contract and everyone knows it, I get the impression that the number of people who try to cheat is small and the Deep Sleep service is effective and relentless. Well, it's a plan! There are other plans! ( I have a vasectomy, as an example. No kids, no need to shoot me!) We forget that this was roughly contemporary with books like The Population Bomb, people were freaking out about the idea that the world was going to fill up with people and we'd all be eating bark by 1980 or something. So when the world hit like 5 or 6 Billion we were all going to die... and now we're twice that and growing! Personally I think there's like a RIGHT level of population, but almost no limit to the number of persons who CAN LIVE! I also recall "Eco Disaster" novels by (say) John Brunner that really had people worrying, like "The Sheep Look Up" and "Stand on Zanzibar", from 1972, 1968. Judging by the ever flippy comments section, it looks like people have forgotten what the story is ABOUT! At the time I think this could not be ignored.
Other than it's a pretty effed up vision of Eden. The majority accept the status quo and are like sheep. Anyone who dissents are persecuted. Also dying at 21/30? Not Eden. More like a shiny hell
I was an extra in Logan's Run back in the day! It was great fun, got great food, and actually got paid pretty well. I had a blast being in the film, one of those best memories!
@@donovansullivan5130 yes I want to know too, thanks in advance I was a pale blue (but not in the film, just playing in my cousins' garden , I had found an outfit rather similar to it, that and star trek were our main source of inspiration before star wars and all the toys came out) anybody else had fun like that?
@@philipocallaghan you still are? please explain I'm still a jedi after all these years, just fun at cosplays with children aged from 2 to 90 with the big return of star wars, I now have a collection of lightsabers of all colors but still a big fan of logan's run, maybe that collecting lighsabers comes from my first viewing of logan's run, I was absolutely fascinated by that crystal changing color (and it already was the color red that meant danger)
In 1976 I was a Jenny Agutter fan since "Walkabout." Years later at a convention I was able to chat with John Landis. I asked him how he came to choose Jenny Agutter to play Alex in "American Werewolf of London." "Have you ever seen 'Walkabout'?" he asked. "Absolutely," I replied. "That's when I first fell in love with her." He smiled. "That's when I fell in love with her too..."
@@BrianKelsay "Walkabout" is a li'l weird in spots but it's otherwise an awesome movie. Born in December 1955, Jenny was also about 15 when it was filmed...
I saw Logan's Run when it first came out in the theaters. I loved it. And yeah, Jenny Agutar was it! Soon afterwards I read the book, watched the TV series and collected the comics. I was 12 at the time and was a little hesitant to watch it again a couple years ago. I am sure glad i did. Yes, it is dated and the special effects are not all that special, but the story itself is still pretty solid and I couldnt help but smile afterwards. For a little bit, I felt like I was 12 all over again :)
One of my favorite easter eggs from the Austin Powers movies is that when Michael York played the younger version of himself, he had the same hair as in Logan's Run.
@@johannajacob791 It's the usual dumb right winger "the left are to blame for everything, and are always a homogeneous group of evil doers." trope with no proof, or coherent thought but just "UGG, me not left, left bad" thoughts. Not all right wingers are thick. However, there a lot of vocal morons giving Conservatism a bad name by not having any ideological or philosophical grounding beyond not liking figures like Jeremy Corbyn or Joe Biden for vague reasons like they represent the wrong party, and oppose their party or favourite leader.
@@phoneboxchicken4108 trust me, most British people did not want Corbyn policies, as they were implemented in the 1940s to 1980s. They stifled the UK economy and the UK fell behind so many other countries. I am just about enough old to remember Thatcher. Biden is not left, he is fairly centralist.
I adore this film. It occupies spot number 3 in my top 3. The other two being 1: Blade Runner 2: Labyrinth. The reintroduction of the idea of romantic devotion to a social culture that had lost all sense of anything but transient pleasure (as laid out in the graveyard scene where York and Agutter read previously unknown words "Beloved Husband" and "Beloved wife" much to the amusement of the Old Man) really pulled at me. It looks dated, sure, but I really don't mind that. Goldsmiths transition between harsh electro-synth and lush orchestral sweeping strings as the film moves from artificial to natural surroundings is a master stroke of cinematography which goes almost unnoticed until you've seen it for the second or maybe even third time. Hugely underrated, and I'm very glad i have it safely on DVD for the years to come.
wow, the sound does transition from digital to natural fluidity, I can hear the bleep bloops in my head rn from the beginning of the film haha! everything about this movie is symbolic and just beyond amazing!
But hay it was the 70s where people back then thought 30 yr olds looking convincing enough to play teenagers in movies. Then again they casted a near 40 yr old Black woman as a teenager in Clueless a 90s high school Romcom.
Minor correction. You note in the video that York was the production's original first choice to play Logan, he was not. According to multiple Internet sources, just as William Devane was the original choice for Francis, the producers originally wanted Jon Voigt to play Logan and Lindsay Wagner (soon to be the Bionic Woman at the time) to play Jessica. Both actors were available, but at prices that were too high for the producers' tastes, so they decided to scrap the original choices for the "big 3" (Voight, Wagner and Devane) and go with the younger, cheaper set of York, Agutter, and Jordan ... and FWIW, I think the movie is better for it since, as you note, York and Jordan were already in their 30s, and they were younger than Voight and Devane. That said, your #1 point in the video is absolutely true, this really was the last scifi film of its kind (before Star Wars changed *everything*) ... and I have always enjoyed it.
@@nobody46820 I was a big Lindsay Wager fan when I was younger. Yes, I would've liked to see her in this, but I also like Agutter. Maybe not as pretty as Wagner, but still sensual.
Logan's Run is one of those movies that might not be considered a "good" movie, but it will always hold a special place in my heart. I really enjoyed watching it when it in 1976. (I was just 14 that summer.) Be sure to see the Trivia section at IMDb for a lot more interesting bits of trivia regarding the movie. Of the six main cast members, four of them (Richard Jordan, Farrah Fawcett, Roscoe Kee Browne, and Peter Ustinov) have all passed. Only York and Agutter are still with us. (And yes, Agutter was absolutely stunning in this.)
The Logan’s run carousel comes to mind quite often... esp whenever I see the short TikTok videos and the like. Funny how similar people's unhappy and shallow existences are nearly the same.
Bonus Fact: Michael York had a cameo in another Sci-Fi classic. He played one of the apes in Spaceballs that viewed Lord Helmet and President Scroob crawling out of the destroyed remains of Spaceball 1, ala Planet of the Apes. His line was, "Shit. There goes the neighborhood."
I was fortunate enough to see this at a drive-in. While the effects look dated today on our super clear HD TVs on the huge drive-in screen it was epic!
There is a definitive aesthetic to "Logan's Run" and this made a tremendous impression on me as a youth of 10 years old at the time! It sounds a bit trite to say, "This was a Golden Era of Science Fiction" but, for young pre-teenage boys, girls and even older young adults, this movie was visionary! It was a deeply immersive alternate universe of one possible future of humanity and I found it detailed enough to completely make sense (just remember, that's "sense" to a mush-brained 10 year old) and be convinced this may be a future that WILL happen! "Star Wars" by contrast was not a "we humans had better be careful" story because it was not set on Earth or any familiar place. And the movies including Terra Firma are a bit more edgy, scary and intriguing to me -- perhaps more familiar, and of course this began my love of Science Fiction which continues as strong as ever to this day, some 44 years later! I even got a Sci-Fi inspired, original art tattoo on my right hip, just about where Logan's Sandman blaster may have rested on his hip. Thank the powers that be we have made it this far without needing to implement a Carousel "lottery-like" system of population reduction or I would not be able to write this comment ENCOURAGING present day 10 year olds to READ Science Fiction and love the stories which will become the movies to be made in 5, 10 or 15 years time! ... (That's 2025, 2030 and 2035 for those brainwashed into the "New Math" school of thinking!) There are big stories out there and far brighter, more ambitious minds than mine have done amazing film-making such as James Cameron with "Terminator" (1984), "The Abyss" (1989) and "Avatar" (2009) which are also, must see movies! Enjoy!
I showed this movie to my daughters about 5 or 6 years ago when they were in their very early teens, half expecting them to dismiss it as old cheesy nonsense, but they were mesmerised by it. They generally dislike 'old movies' , but Logan's Run had them enthralled. I think one thing going for it is that it's a sort of coming of age story. It's about growing out of childish play and self absorption and facing up to the dangers and responsibilities of the real or 'adult' world.
Fun fact: the granite waterfalls location in Logan’s Run was filmed in the Ft. Worth Water Gardens in Ft. Worth Texas, USA. I used to live in the area and visited the location a few years ago. It was absolutely surreal to see a filming location from a movie that was such a huge part of my childhood!!
Sad Fact: The city had to make changes to the water gardens, too many people jumping into the pool at the bottom and being pulled under buy the pumps. After the second death it was drained and sat empty until the law suits were completed, since then changes have be made to prevent people from going under.
@@brianking768 At the time the movie was filmed this was the Zale's Building. Zale's was a big jewelry store franchise in malls at the time. I lived about 5 miles from it in Irving, TX. Oh, another cool fact. The Tandy Towers (better known as Radio Shack) in Fort Worth were used as well. I went to HS with a girl, Pamela Booker, who was an extra in the scenes filmed at the Tandy Towers.
The sound effects may seem "outdated" today, but I think they add to the film's charm. Unlike the screeching, thundering industrial sound effects common in sci fi movies nowadays, the sounds in Logan's Run are more soothing and at times, surreal and dreamy.
Yeah, especially the whooshing of those monorails zipping through those tubes connecting one building to another in the domed city. BART and DC's Metrorail had very modern trains, but nothing beats watching those zippy two-seater cars whooshing through those tubes!
Tidbits on the Marvel comic adaptation: 1. Marvel did not have the rights to the likenesses of the actors, so Logan, Jessica, Francis, etc. bear only a passing resemblance to the movie characters. 2. Most of the comic was based on the shooting script, rather than the finished and edited film. Hence scenes that were cut from the movie are in the comic and costumes have some differences due to being based on pre-production art. This is also the reason why the life-clocks were drawn on the right palm in the comic while they were on the left in the film. 3. After Marvel's five issue adaptation of the film, the comic continued for two more issues, continuing the story of the City-dwellers adapting to the new world outside. However due to miscommunication, Marvel didn't actually have the rights to continue the story, and MGM forced Marvel to cease and desist without finishing the new storyline. One filler story that had already been planned for a future issue was heavily re-edited to remove everything specific to Logan's Run and was later published in Marvel's Bizarre Adventures magazine.
Ah! You missed my favorite bit o’ trivia. The music. All the music in the movie is electronic, until they break out of the City and then it turns classic orchestral. So, in the high tech, neon and glass city, the sound track matches the visuals. When Logan and Jessica literally see the light of the morning sun, their whole world has a natural appearance and sound.
Excellent video review of an excellent movie disguised as 70s sci fi kitsch. Will love this movie forever. Although not in the same league of some of its more famous late 60's predecessors, it still deserves much love and appreciation. Also, Agutter may have appeared in "An American Werewolf in London" a few years later a bit more conventional and although she may have hated the costume. That costume was straight up the source of many male adolescent fantasies.
This is my absolute favorite pre-Star Wars 70s scifi film. Michael York is one of my 70s dreamboats along with Ryan O'Neal, and Jenny Agutter is one of the single most beautiful women ever to grace the silver screen. I will sing Logan's Run's praises forever and ever. It is both old fashioned and modern, both beautiful and gritty, both romantic and brutal, and I love it so much. And idk what anyone says, the Ewan McGregor/Sean Bean/Scarlett Johansson film The Island is a loose but obvious remake of Logan's Run. Change my mind lol.
Well..., there is the "what they think is happening" is not the full story in a futuristic setting similarity. Actually, good observation. I thoroughly enjoyed The Island, perhaps in its fullness (qualifier) better than Logan's Run. However, LR was so unique, I like LR better than The Island through all but the LR ending. Peter Ustinov was acting too much and the concept of the ending was distracting. Logan and Jessica could be shown learning on their own what the situation is with a lesser personality than Ustinov to confirm what they found.
Even down to the naming conventions (i.e. Lincoln 6.) Both are my favorites and your comment clarified why that probably is now that I think about it...
I remember seeing it at the theater I was 7 and to this day it still evokes an unsettling feeling in me a feeling that the movie was revealing something very true about human nature.
it was revealing the truth, but age 80. at and after that age society doesn't care in the west. And in nursing homes and hospices they feel it better to starve the people to death than look to cure them.
@@karma2.098 Society maybe but not me, my moms 82, she lives with me, it's not easy sometimes but she would give me the world if she could I'll never be able to pay her back for all she's done for me but at least I can try. I live in Texas.
@@jackwilliamson1929 Same but opposite family member. My dad brought me up from childhood. He went out of his way to give me the world. So when he was ill at 81 (living with him for 20 years up until illness) I returned the honour to look after him until he was better. Sadly he went onto transition to be another angel to watch over me 😇🥰
Farrah Fawcett was quite the "It girl" at the time of the release. She was a fixture on ABC's made for TV movies and her ads for Noxema were a milestone in every adolescent male's development. The "Charlie's Angels" pilot had aired in March and her now legendary red swimsuit poster was released almost simultaneously with film. Needless to say MGM publicity made the most of her two scenes in the film
If your friend was really mean, they would have gotten it for you on your 29th birthday and watch you have nightmares leading up to your 30th birthday like the rest of us.
This was my cousin Farrah's first movie that I ever saw her in; so it holds a special place in my heart. I liked the shiny, happy look of the city of domes, especially compared to the workaday drab, industrial look of Alien (which I also loved!). All good wishes.
Oh, yeah, I also liked "Silent Running" with Bruce Dern and those droids named Huey, Dewey, and Louie caring for those plants under a Conservatory dome on a ship heading somewhere. The underlying theme song was sad and made me cry.
@@studinthemaking not much to tell, it marked my first and only TV/acting appearance ! Unless you count that time I got my camp entertainment pennant in guides! Google Nether Wallop Film Festival - it was Oct 1984. I was 11 I can’t believe all those amazing people were there looking at it now! Jenny and Sir Michael Hordern narrated the history of the village (that went back to the doomsday book) and basically walked around the village and talked about significant areas - the local school children were involved and that’s where I come in. My part was the spirit of the village so I stood with Jenny and Michael throughout, which was pretty cool. I didn’t have any lines as I just represented the community spirit through the ages - I remember what I wore was made by an art student in London - like a big white thing that said spirit of Nether Wallop on it - I remember it being in bronze script and being very impressed it had been made in London The whole area was very historical with Bronze Age forts etc, I didn’t live in the village but up the road in Middle Wallop on the army base Definitely google though as there’s quite a bit of information on it I hope this is a new Jenny thing for you as that’d be cool
Logan's Run was my first Sci Fi movie I ever saw. my parents were way into these kinds of movies, but I was way too young to hear about the apocalypse lol. I looooooved this movie so much. I work at Marvel Comics now, and i used to have the original Logan's Run comics we produced. they were pretty amazing but everything George Perez did (God rest his soul, he died from cancer earlier this year) was gold, no matter if he worked for DC or Marvel (he was the artist on Crisis on Infinite Earths, if you havent seen that series WHY LORD WHY HAVENT YOU READ THAT SERIES), so it was essential reading. I pulled the comics from our database just now so I can stroll down memory lane :) Thanks for this episode Minty, I appreciate your efforts very much!
7:10 The model of the domed city in Logan's Run looks like Walt Disney's original model for EPCOT. They even included a "monorail" thru the building, just like at Disney's Contemporary Resort.
I watched this again recently but with my 9 yr old daughter… she loved it! She reminded me of myself when I first saw it as a kid. This tells me that it doesn’t matter if it’s an old movie and a little outdated, it is a classic and still has what it takes to impress today’s generation.
I wouldn't mind living in a shopping mall inhabited by hot-looking babes like Jenny Agutter and Farrah Fawcett. I wonder if the food court and game arcade would have been free?
As I get older, Logan's run gets better. Sure, I could go for renewal, But I would probably run. But Minty, I can't believe you didn't address the elephant in the room, the Vulcan salute in the end scene. I love the guy who did that bit of cross-franchise chicanery.
The futuristic guns the 'Sandmen' used in the film were actually just modified butane filled lighters. Apparently they didn't always work on cue and caused a lot of delays in filming. Also the tv series actually sold quite well around the world but by then it had already been cancelled due to it's ratings in the US (incidentally Terminator star Michael Biehn has a small role in the pilot episode). And even as a kid I always found that miniature model of the city to be very unconvincing despite the fact it was apparently the biggest model made for a movie at the time
Definitely agree on the city model being unconvincing. It really sticks out. Even just a couple of years later, they did a much more convincing futuristic city in the pilot episode of "Battlestar Galactica" with a combination of practical sets and matte paintings. And on a television budget.
The big failure of the city model was the water. No attempt was made to make the water look like anything larger than a small puddle. It ruined the scale.
The model looked like something from a 1930s sci fi film. Even the Krell city in 1955 film Forbidden film looked more convincing. If you think that just 6 years later in 1982, Ridley Scott's city in Blade Runner had a massively better model city (although the mood lighting in that may have helped its appearance too). Even so, Total Recall (1990) had an excellent model city. It's difficult to pinpoint exactly why Logan's run model looks so fake. Yes, the water doesn't help but I think the bright lighting doesn't help and neither does the lack of detail. Possibly from a technical point of view perhaps the lense used or even the film stock ? Interestingly director Michael Anderson had a solid history of effects heavy films that used a lot of modelwork so it's odd this film isn't up to standard in that department.
I've known about this movie since I was a kid. I finally bought and watched it in 2019 and wow this movie really impressed me. Very underrated and a good movie to watch even today.
Bravo to you for calling attention to the soundtrack. A good soundtrack definitely enhances a good movie, yet few people realize this. Star Wars and Blade Runner are just two films that depend on their excellent soundtracks to give them something unique. You can recognize excerpts from these films instantly; they don't sound like any other film.
Loved the movie AND the series. The movie is sometimes forgotten and the series never had a chance. A real shame. I was 12 when the movie came out and you are absolutely right. Just under a year later, EVERYTHING changed.
I’m 53! I absolutely love old classic science fiction. The fact that we can see strings in movies such as this and others such as the black hole, only make the movies more endearing. I love the old-school look of these movies and, I watch them when they were first introduced. Yes, I did also watch the series that was on TV. I was in love with it. I am now a cult movie collector. Collecting stuff such as Battle be on the stars and of course the aforementioned the black hole. I also collect other types of genres, but Syfy is where it’s at. Good video!
They've been trying to do a re-make for years. But, the drama behind that sounds a lot like the drama associated with the original production... As far as I'm concerned, I don't mind waiting till Hollywood is done with their stupid "WOKE movement." That will only ruin it...
I saw it on TV as a child and have been a science fiction fan ever since. My favourite film because of the futuristic atmosphere. On Soundcloud I uploaded a song of mine with the sound of Logan's Run.
Outland is a brilliant Sci-Fi western (it was a version of High Noon), the models for the colony building, and shuttle has a nice gritty style (that is not out of place in the Alien universe - especially with corporate greed). Outland needs a video feature on your channel Minty.
Seconded. That's one of my favorite movies. Also one of the first DVD's I purchased. Lots of good material there. Lots of good Sean. Lots of good supporting characters.
Absolutely, that's a great movie, and absolutely underrated. It's High Noon in outer space. Matter of fact it was just on one of the Starz channels the other day and I watched it.
Other things I remember different in the book was it wasn’t a “city of domes”, it was the whole world, that’s why Sanctuary was an off-world colony. The guns weren’t plasma throwers, they were guns that fired switchable specialized ammo like Judge Dredd’s lawgiver, and there had been plenty of Sandmen who had run so the guns had screamer alarms built in for if their owners had become runners the alarms on the guns would start screaming and couldn’t turn off(although you could still use them for some reason),I personally thought the plasma guns were cooler but the tv version gun had stun settings as well for a bit more flexibility.
I remember when this came out. The miniature set was all the talk for how amazing and detailed it was. The cars zipping through those clear tubes fascinated everyone. One of my all time favorites.
Yeah, I also loved watching those cars zipping through those tubes connecting the buildings in the domed city. I sometimes wonder whether Walt Disney got the idea for Epcot if he watched Logan's Run before conceiving of Epcot's Future World.
For it's time, Logan's Run was a fun movie! However, as said, "Star Wars" so dwarfed "Logan's Run" special effects that it was immediately "yesterday's news!" And just as "The Jazz Singer" changed films in the late 20's, Star Wars" throughly changed the way "special effects" were done in future films! Seeing them back to back you realize how totally different they are!
Fun fact - the novel didn't have the carousel construct from the film, instead, upon reaching 21 and the life clock going dark, the person willingly went to a deep sleep facility. Something along the lines of the 'final memorium' facility in the film Soylent Green. There was also no one City in the book; the phenomenon of deep sleep was world wide, to stem the world population in many cities, connected by underground tunnels. The 70's has a number of films worried about overpopulation. Zero Population Grown (1971) is another fine example, were procreators faced death for violating the birth moratorium.
With the world's population as high as it is now and still rising there is still reason for concern. China did try to limit overpopulation with their "one child" policy, and since couples were prosecuted for breaking it humanity have really taken a step towards such over population steps that people did fear.
@@sheilalarson8964 Books. There are at least 3 (Logan's Run, Logan's World, Logan's Search) along with a bunch of comic books, novellas, unpublished works and whatnot. I enjoyed the first book before I saw the movie (and more than the movie, truth be told), and then the second and third novels in descending levels of enjoyment. Contrary to a lot of opinion, I would very much like to see a remake with newer technology, but also staying closer to the book than the existing movie did.
Logan's Run was epic. The lead actress was amazing (she also knocked it out of the park with "American Werewolf" about 10 years later). Note that her character's greatest innovation - no bra - was utilized by Lucas in creating "Star Wars" just a year or two later. Also worthy of note: all the actors over 30 in the principal cast were male, all the actors under 30 were female.
I am not convinced Lucas got the idea from Jessica's costume. Lucas's argument for no bras seemed to be connected with the weighlessness in space, even though everyone walks around under seemingly normal gravity on even such small crafts as the Millenium Falcon.
It wasn't an innovation. It was just the edgy fashion of the time. I don't think anyone in their twenties at the time thought twice about it. It made the look today-forward rather than all the sci-fi babes in uplift bras of the Sixties.
Not to be pedantic, but American Werewolf in London was five years later... And Jenny Agutter, a beautiful woman with a voice that melted my adolescent heart, was terrific as Nurse Alex Price.
In the original novel, the termination age was 21 years old. The follow up novel Logan's World expanded on the outside world where Logan found himself.
Bonus fact... The water they dive into at the end to get back into the city, is the Water Gardens in Fort Worth Texas. Where several years ago, some kids drowned in it. The city made it shallow to prevent anything like that happening again. It's still there today, but too shallow to dive into. Plus, you're not supposed to get into it.
There are many fountains all over the wold you're not supposed to climb into, especially the world famous Trevi Fountain in Rome. If you get caught climbing into that fountain, you'll be arrested and required to pay a big fine. Tourist police officers are all over the place, using their whistles, shouting, and running to stop tourists from entering the fountain.
important oversight. at least in the movie people don't know carousel is basically an electric chair. people think they ascend to a higher state of being. some figure out and RUN.
Yeah, that's kind of a major important aspect of the film. Logan was a company man, proud of his work and position, when he was chosen to seek out knowledge, and once he started learning, he became woke. It took him from being a stooge to being a revolutionary. He was content with the order of things before, blindly believing what the powers that be told him, but once he saw one lie for what it was, he began thinking for himself.
The subject of culling the population, to avoid overpopulation, was a big subject in the sixties and seventies. Since this film was made we can see the results with societies globally ageing as our leaders bought the concept of population reduction, contemptuously considering and treating their population as livestock.
When you realize that only a SINGLE YEAR separated the release of Logan's Run from Star Wars, you should truly understand how Ground Breaking George Lucas's creation actually was.
@@j.dragon651 I wholeheartedly agree and I've always loved that quote. Here're a couple others: "If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants." - Isaac Newton 1675 "Bernard of Chartres used to compare us to dwarfs perched on the shoulders of giants. He pointed out that we see more and farther than our predecessors, not because we have keener vision or greater height, but because we are lifted up and borne aloft on their gigantic stature." - John of Salisbury 1159
I remember seeing this this movie when it came out. I was 16 then and the age of 30 sounded ancient to me. Now I am 61, living in the future, I would love to go back to being 30.
I was very young in the 70's and many years later when I got a chance to watch the Logan's Run movie again, there were parts that I remembered that weren't in it. When you said the TV show had a retelling of the movie it all clicked. I would have been much more likely to have seen the TV show than the movie back then. I know I had seen some of the movie, the initial carousel scene especially. Thanks for doing this list!
Very well done! I remember Logan's Run and was a big Fan of the original movie so watched every TV episode with my father, who like me, found stories about the future fascinating. We did think the TV series was not that good but there was little on TV then that was. This may have been the time when home computers were still a dream, portable phones thought to be impossible and the thought of a world wide wide computer system to be frightening, but we weren't so primitive as to like the cheesy special effects. Many "sophisticated" people laughed that that aspect. We were thoroughly by the great movies of 1976 like the dramas of Network, Rocky, All The Presidents Men, Taxi Driver, Marathon Man, the comedy Bad News Bears and the huge Fantasy remake of King Kong but Logan's Run had a terrific story with SOME good Acting so it was the movie you saw when your first choice was sold out. By the way, "Minty" your analysis is well researched and written but those Sunglasses are really annoying. When people cannot see your eyes, they lose trust and respect for you. Chuck them out and slow down your cadence just a little to sound more natural. Your voice is fine when you don't try so hard. Sounding like Robin Leach gushing about Hollywood Star's Mansions is distracting and takes away from your believability.
I did think it was kind of cool that the TV series completely made a new version of the movie with a different ending to set up a Fugitive-style chase as the status quo. It's fun comparing the two versions of the movie. All the effects scenes are the same, but they re-filmed the parts with the main actors (with a much lower budget). It's a fun and weird thing to watch. The series after that goes downhill fast because it can't figure out what to do, but I still love the car they drove!
@@wtk6069 You remember it well. Of course the girls were gorgeous and it was Sci-fi so I liked it at first. The TV Series Starred Gregory Harrison who still Acts on "General Hospital" and here's trivia: the female Lead was Canadian Heather Menzies who was already famous from being Lousia von Trapp in "The Sound of Music" and then a Playboy Centerfold.
I'll have to look 👀 into her films! Oooo, la la!!! I was 13 yrs old when Logan's Run came out! I spent my newspaper route $$$ going to the theater. I watched that movie 3 times in a row. Then, twice more that week!
This one will always be one of my guilty pleasures. Richard Jordan's death sceen has stuck with me since I was a kid. Such a interesting and unique story! Thanks Minty!
Things I DO know about Logans Run,,its fantastic, I love it. I own a DVD copy, and have seen it many many times, the first time in the theater back in the day,,,now at 66 years old, looking at Jenny still makes me feel incredible,,,,. I am so thankful to have been born when I was,,,,this future that is reality scares me as much as Logans world, but the girls are thankfully still lovely to behold...
@@stevepiner2094 That’s probably about how old I was. My parents were divorced and I remember my father took me to see it. He always took me to better movies than my mom. My mom took me to see Gone With the Wind when I was a child. It was long and boring. My father took me to see the Sound of Music. Obviously way better for a child since it had children in it. My dad wasn’t great but he did do some awesome things for me
Logan's Run was a favorite of mine since I first saw it as a kid. And, It's still a favorite in my adult years. Thanks, Minty. I enjoyed watching this : )
I imagine a lot of Veterans and old cops like this movie. Logan is a happy naive Follower of the System when the film begins. He kills whoever he is told too. Because he was taught that was the right thing to do. He mocks and laughs at any MISFIT who questions the System. But then he learns the Truth. And he goes from being happy and naive, to bitter and rebellious in one day. He tries to convince his best friend of the Truth. But his friend can’t let go of what he has been programmed to believe, and would rather fight Logan to the death, than accept the Truth. I didn’t understand that stuff has a kid seeing this. But as an adult , I’m blown away.
@@elizabethlyons1066 I'm a veteran and I enjoyed this movie, and recognized the theme Steven Spenneberg is commenting. I tend to think that it's more an illustration of why the SS, Gestapo, and Wehrmacht carried out orders without hesitation that seem to be utter madness to us, than a reflection of my experiences in the U.S. military, but the dangers of fanaticism and soldiers losing sight of right and wrong are there. The U.S. military makes a significant effort from basic training all the way through a soldier's career to make sure we know the laws of war, the Geneva and Hague conventions, that we know that our first loyalty is to the Constitution and the Nation, before any politicians or officers, that we have an obligation to disobey unlawful orders, and that we do not blindly follow our leaders. We lean about the war-crimes trials after world war 2, and that "following orders" does not justify crimes against humanity. And we still have some people in our ranks who lose sight of right and wrong and who do go overboard. Most of us aren't like the Sandmen, who kill without question because they don't know any other way. Logan's Run, however, does present a strong warning of what any military or police force could become if they are sufficiently isolated from moral and legal concerns and trained to blind obedience.
I often explain to younger people what a game changer Star Wars was. The special effects before and after are night and day. "Seeing the wires" and that type of thing was just no longer acceptable.
And she was one of the members on that shadowy council that secretly runs S.H.I.E.L.D. in those Marvel movies. You can see her in Captain America: Winter Soldier and hear her voice (because the council members' faces are all obscured in darkness) in Marvel's Avengers when they order Nick Fury to initiate a nuke strike in Manhattan.
"... science fiction movies had become about dysfunctional futuristic societies, full of death and destruction often caused by corruption of technology and/or government." Yeah, that'll never happen.
I am surprised that wasn't mentioned. Some considerable matting was done to film that wide shot so you couldn't tell there were massive buildings surrounding it.
I was 10 years old when this came out. I remember watching this on TV along with the 6 million dollar man then Battle Star Galactica came out. I miss those old TV shows.
the concept is what really made the movie get you past the fake or cheesy moments. i feel thry did the best they could with what they had. i was a young'un and remember the sense of wonder it gave me as story unfolded, it was the sci fi of Wizard Of Oz for me. i also considered it very artistic in many ways even as a child i recognized the effort of that craft and may have realized the the full impact of those who created it intended to have regardless of the tech shortcomings
The HBO Series "Westworld" has a similar style of '70s futuristic locations and architectures. The similarities to Logan's Run and "The Lathe of Heaven" (another movie with a Dallas-Fort Worth connection) are a large part of why I enjoy Westworld so much. Visit Las Colinas in Irving, Texas, sometime for a small scale real-life visual experience with the flavor of all three movies. It is starting to develop a derelict patina, so don't wait too long.
I remember seeing Logan's Run at the local drive-in in the summer of 76. It was a double feature with Rollerball. Don't know that I've watched Rollerball more than a couple of times since then but I've seen Logan's Run probably close to a hundred times. Love the movie, but Jenny Agutter is a big part that. Still one of the sexiest women ever to hit the big screen. I'd take her over Farah any day.
You remind me of a lot of my friends back in high school. I love stories by true fans. Thanks for the insights. I loved Logan's Run and all those other classic sci fi's from those days.
This year it’s the 50th anniversary of the making of the original Railway Children, and the Keighley and Worth Valley Railway (where it was filmed) were planning anniversary events. Unfortunately, a certain virus caused a change in the plans... There is a book about the making of the film, available from the railway.
In the Railway Children, the younger daughter was played by Sally Thomsett despite being two years older than Jenny. Sally was cast as 11 year old Phyllis, despite being 20 at the time. I'd argue that was a rather more bit of extreme age casting than a 33 year old Michael York playing a 30 year old. Of course Michael York always had that touch of Peter Pan eternal youth about him.
@@TheEulerID she was ordered not to drive to the set in her new MG so as not to dispel the idea that she was a child, heard this on a radio interview with Sally Thomset about twenty years ago, she still sounded a bit miffed about it.
As for the Logan's Run Tv show it starred The Sound Of Music's Heather Menzies and guest starred Nicholas Hammond and Angela Cartwright (who were both in The Sound Of Music) on two separate episodes. I think the film City Of Amber is a little similar to Logan's Run is some respects. Oh and Jenny Agutter, wow what a gal.
I have the series on DVD. I love it! Shame it flopped. Logan was played by Gregory Harrison who would go on to play Dr. Gonzo Gates in the MASH spinoff Trapper John M.D. Oh, and as for Nicholas Hammond and Angela Cartwright: Angela is probably best known for playing Penny Robinson in the Lost in Space TV series in the 60s Nicholas Hammond would become 'infamous' as the first live-action Spider-Man. ( he was also the doofus who turned down a date with Marcia Brady because her nose was swollen: "Something suddenly came up!" 😁)
@@casinodelonge ... Yes there was, in 1974. Also only 14 episodes, it starred Roddy McDowell as Galen. McDowell played Cornelius in the first and third Apes films and Caesar in the 4th & 5th. During the 80s the series was re edited into 5 TV movies.
Nice vid! Here are 2 things that I would add: 1st the tv series suffered mostly from CBS bouncing the timeslot around. That is what really killed it. 2nd, the glass tubes that they travel around in the movie that is in the huge city miniature inspired the Mego toy company to make the toy Micronauts Rocket Tubes in the late 70's.
Dystopian movies are making a come back,it seems like in the 70s ,there are constantly Doomsday films about the environmental disaster and Nuclear war,or some zombie outbreak..Logan’s Run was a fun film to watch,still love it,...Beautiful film..👍👍👍👍
For me, the movies that made me love Sci fi were "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Fantastic Voyage". But what really captured my affection for classical music was "2001" for all those wonderful pieces by Richard Strauss and Johann Strauss II that were played throughout the movie.
I'd forgotten about this movie - but I do remember seeing it when I was a little kid. I agree with you about the appeal of watching this movie in our current era...thanks for the reminder - I'm gonna watch this asap !!
I just watched it for the first time, having grown up when Star Wars exploded. I had no idea this movie even existed, even tho I was a sci-fi fan from a young age. I enjoyed this thoroughly for exactly the reasons you state; the old vintage vibe that we haven't seen since. It was a lot of fun if you put aside any real critical thought about it, lol. Also discovered the original Solaris last year, foreign language, had no idea that existed either, and loved it (tho a more intense theme).
Curious that the poster images that you showed for the older style of post-apocalyptic sci-fi was THX-1138, which was made by George Lucas who made Star Wars that you show as one of the films that ushered in the new style of the genre. In a purely trivial matter George seems really attached to that movie. In the novelization of Star Wars the Stormtrooper that Luke disguises himself as had the call-sign THX-1138, in the movie the prison block that Chewy is supposedly being transferred from is cell block 1138, and the sound technology from ILM (Lucas' effects group) is branded THX Spacial Audio.
Yes.THX 1138.Another cult sci-fi classic 5 years ahead of Logans Run though. A much better film IMO. Ahead of its time lie 2001 as far as movies go.The similarities to Logan's Run are obvious. The original THX was a project Lucas made for school at USC . Check it out.
Here's some trivial for you guys, the high pitch sound you hear at the start of the intro titles @ 1:10 is actually the sound of a seal whistling in its sleep. I found a video of the seal and thought the whistle had an old school 70s science fiction laser sound about it so I incorporated it into the intro music :)
@MintyComedicArts that's pretty awesome and accurate. This is one of your better videos I must say. Logan's Run really is a masterpiece
I had to re-listen to it. It does sound like some weird laser sound. If I snuck up behind a seal at night and heard that I would run away thinking I was being chased by a UFO.
That sound was an excellent find Minty. Nicely done. And you think YOUR screwed at 30, i'm screwed twice over! Ouch! Double Carousel for me.
I’m a red
The more you know!
I was in high school in Dallas in the early seventies. They sent out a casting call to all the area high schools for extras to be in Logan's Run. It said, "If you think you are beautiful, come audition," or words to that effect. This caused uproars as some strutted forward and others jeered. In the end, they took everyone who showed up. The carousal scene was filmed in a shopping center down the road from me. The water fountain in Ft. Worth was featured and hasn't changed. The other venues have all been reborn after they reached the age of thirty.
Very nice, thanks!
Surprising when I found out one of my fav SciFi movies was filmed about 275 miles from where I live. I visited DFW a lot back in the mid 70's to mid 80's. Did the extras get paid or just volunteered their service?
Logan's Run is in a league of its own. A stone-cold classic.
That league being second rate sci fi with 3rd rate actors and cheap sets!
@@clivebaxter6354 You certainly are entitled to your opinion. Personally I didn't recall any bad acting, Jennifer Aguitar is HOT, and the film was mystical when it was new. It was cutting edge for it's time despite some parts which seem dated, such as the metal man.
@@rockeroller Hot ? you must have very odd standards then, she always came across like a stroppy schoolgirl Blade runner and 2001 were cutting edge, not this run of the mill romp.
@@clivebaxter6354 Logan's Run is easily up there with both of those films because of its themes, that said Blade Runner is beaten by its own sequel in the exploration of the themes central to that franchise and both LR & BR do follow a similar story arc with both main characters being defenders of the status quo having their perception of the world challenged.
Blade Runner was 'cutting edge' because of its aesthetic more than anything whereas Logan's Run sits very firmly in the style set in the 60's. Get over that and Logan's Run is a truly excellent bit of Sci-Fi.
@@clivebaxter6354 Agreed. York is wetter than a fishes wet bits, Agutter is only there because she built her entire career on going nude/ wearing very little, the plot is stodgy and slow and Ustinov must have been drunk when he agreed to play the "wise man". All in all a hugely disjointed disappointment.
I always enjoy watching Logan’s Run. It is one of my top sci-fi movies from that era. I too fell in love with Jenny Agutter. Her costume was perfect!!!!! Thanks for another great movie review Minty!!!
I love Logans Run. It's one of my favorite moves along with The Planet of the Apes, Westworld, Soylent Green, The Omega Man, and Disney's The Black Hole. They knew how to make movies back then. Now its all blood and gore.
Great 70’s movies sci-fi list. I would add “silent running.”
You really wanted to include Flash Gordon, didn't you?
@@willpeony5534 yes
@@Prence Me too, funnily Pauline Kael raved about it.
2001: A Space Odyssey
First movie I ever saw twice in the theatre. Watched it on a Friday, fell in love with the story (and Jenny), and convinced my parents to go back and watch it on Sunday. Couldn't get enough of it. Bought a Tshirt with Farrah on it, bought the books, the soundtrack. Started me down the rabbit hole for SciFi.
Star Wars the next year completely flipped me upside down. Bought everything I could, including an original movie poster (1977) that I still have. How did they make that movie, what was the process, who did all of those special effects.
I loved it so much that I knew I wanted to work in the movies - and have been so since moving to LA in the late 1980's.
is sad that now LA makes mostly just Woke sh*t
I saw spy who loved me 3 times in the theater.
"Star Wars the next year "
Wow, was it really only a year later? In terms of the cinematography and effects, it seems like a much later film. Must admit though, for me at least, Logan's Run had a longer shelf life. I would watch Logan's Run today, whereas now that I am older than 13, I couldn't bear to watch any of the Star Wars movies. The original is the only one I ever managed to sit through until the end.
Saw Logans Run first at theater. Then Star Bores came out. Saw SW #1, thought it was stupid. Saw a preview of SW #2, the rubber puppet "Yoda," how stupid, no thanks. I hated Soylent Green, THX too. 2001 rules to this day. Then Event Horizon, Alien..
@@davidreneau8212 stupid? A lot of people would disagree with you... But then a lot wouldn't🤷🤷♂️
I've always felt there was a hint of a "garden of eden" angle to Logan's Run.
Everyone lives in peace and harmony but when Logan gains the knowledge of what's outside, humanity is banned from the garden and must make their own way in the world.
Well, it's a Utopian vision, for sure. The movie confuses a simple and straightforward story! In the book, people have decided to not even TRY to restrict breeding, but the down side is that you can live to be twenty I think. 21? Then on your last day you go to be gassed, it's not a trick, you know what's going to happen! A few people don't go to the gas, and special police hunt them down and shoot them. That's the social contract and everyone knows it, I get the impression that the number of people who try to cheat is small and the Deep Sleep service is effective and relentless. Well, it's a plan! There are other plans! ( I have a vasectomy, as an example. No kids, no need to shoot me!) We forget that this was roughly contemporary with books like The Population Bomb, people were freaking out about the idea that the world was going to fill up with people and we'd all be eating bark by 1980 or something. So when the world hit like 5 or 6 Billion we were all going to die... and now we're twice that and growing! Personally I think there's like a RIGHT level of population, but almost no limit to the number of persons who CAN LIVE! I also recall "Eco Disaster" novels by (say) John Brunner that really had people worrying, like "The Sheep Look Up" and "Stand on Zanzibar", from 1972, 1968. Judging by the ever flippy comments section, it looks like people have forgotten what the story is ABOUT! At the time I think this could not be ignored.
NOpe. It is WEF policies and they are enacted them now and the jabbed are the crash test dummies.
Other than it's a pretty effed up vision of Eden. The majority accept the status quo and are like sheep. Anyone who dissents are persecuted. Also dying at 21/30? Not Eden. More like a shiny hell
So being killed at 30 is paradise to you?
Same
I was an extra in Logan's Run back in the day! It was great fun, got great food, and actually got paid pretty well. I had a blast being in the film, one of those best memories!
thanks for sharing this
Were you a red or a green? Did you see yourself in the film? If so, what scene were you in?
@@donovansullivan5130 yes I want to know too, thanks in advance
I was a pale blue (but not in the film, just playing in my cousins' garden , I had found an outfit rather similar to it, that and star trek were our main source of inspiration before
star wars and all the toys came out) anybody else had fun like that?
@@ginauccelatore6430 I was a sandman......still am.
@@philipocallaghan you still are?
please explain
I'm still a jedi after all these years, just fun at cosplays with children aged from 2 to 90
with the big return of star wars, I now have a collection of lightsabers of all colors
but still a big fan of logan's run, maybe that collecting lighsabers comes from my first viewing of logan's run, I was absolutely fascinated by that crystal changing color (and it already was the color red that meant danger)
In 1976 I was a Jenny Agutter fan since "Walkabout."
Years later at a convention I was able to chat with John Landis. I asked him how he came to choose Jenny Agutter to play Alex in "American Werewolf of London."
"Have you ever seen 'Walkabout'?" he asked.
"Absolutely," I replied. "That's when I first fell in love with her."
He smiled. "That's when I fell in love with her too..."
She was adorable.
Now I need to find and watch Walkabout.
@@havareriksen1004 She even makes a pretty nun!
@@BrianKelsay "Walkabout" is a li'l weird in spots but it's otherwise an awesome movie. Born in December 1955, Jenny was also about 15 when it was filmed...
Aw, what a charming creepy story.
I saw Logan's Run when it first came out in the theaters. I loved it. And yeah, Jenny Agutar was it! Soon afterwards I read the book, watched the TV series and collected the comics. I was 12 at the time and was a little hesitant to watch it again a couple years ago. I am sure glad i did. Yes, it is dated and the special effects are not all that special, but the story itself is still pretty solid and I couldnt help but smile afterwards. For a little bit, I felt like I was 12 all over again :)
One of my favorite easter eggs from the Austin Powers movies is that when Michael York played the younger version of himself, he had the same hair as in Logan's Run.
We need a Carousel event for people who stay in congress too long
We better watch out. That's what the left has in store for us if we're not careful.
Amen!
@@murrellsummers1987 what??
@@johannajacob791 It's the usual dumb right winger "the left are to blame for everything, and are always a homogeneous group of evil doers." trope with no proof, or coherent thought but just "UGG, me not left, left bad" thoughts.
Not all right wingers are thick. However, there a lot of vocal morons giving Conservatism a bad name by not having any ideological or philosophical grounding beyond not liking figures like Jeremy Corbyn or Joe Biden for vague reasons like they represent the wrong party, and oppose their party or favourite leader.
@@phoneboxchicken4108 trust me, most British people did not want Corbyn policies, as they were implemented in the 1940s to 1980s. They stifled the UK economy and the UK fell behind so many other countries. I am just about enough old to remember Thatcher. Biden is not left, he is fairly centralist.
I adore this film. It occupies spot number 3 in my top 3. The other two being 1: Blade Runner 2: Labyrinth. The reintroduction of the idea of romantic devotion to a social culture that had lost all sense of anything but transient pleasure (as laid out in the graveyard scene where York and Agutter read previously unknown words "Beloved Husband" and "Beloved wife" much to the amusement of the Old Man) really pulled at me. It looks dated, sure, but I really don't mind that. Goldsmiths transition between harsh electro-synth and lush orchestral sweeping strings as the film moves from artificial to natural surroundings is a master stroke of cinematography which goes almost unnoticed until you've seen it for the second or maybe even third time. Hugely underrated, and I'm very glad i have it safely on DVD for the years to come.
wow, the sound does transition from digital to natural fluidity, I can hear the bleep bloops in my head rn from the beginning of the film haha! everything about this movie is symbolic and just beyond amazing!
The cast of "Logan's Run" were mostly over 30.
Just like the highschoolers in "Grease" LOL
Casting older people is a time honoured tradition. One that the director of Mignonnes would have done well to uphold.
Or any 80s slasher movie. Hell Michael j fox was 23 when he played 17 year old Marty mcfly
And you always can see that the actors are about ten years older than the characters they play.
No child labor laws violated.
But hay it was the 70s where people back then thought 30 yr olds looking convincing enough to play teenagers in movies. Then again they casted a near 40 yr old Black woman as a teenager in Clueless a 90s high school Romcom.
One of my all time favourite movies. Jenny Agutter was my first teenage crush.
If you want to see a lot more of a very young Jenny Agutter, watch “ Walkabout “. 👍
@@kevster6244 I have seen Walkabout, boring film but worth watching for Jenny
@@markprior2278 I have to agree with you.
Well, she does get her kit off in LR, as well. Though more so in Walkabout
@@Dragonblaster1 And in America wearwolf in London
Minor correction. You note in the video that York was the production's original first choice to play Logan, he was not. According to multiple Internet sources, just as William Devane was the original choice for Francis, the producers originally wanted Jon Voigt to play Logan and Lindsay Wagner (soon to be the Bionic Woman at the time) to play Jessica. Both actors were available, but at prices that were too high for the producers' tastes, so they decided to scrap the original choices for the "big 3" (Voight, Wagner and Devane) and go with the younger, cheaper set of York, Agutter, and Jordan ... and FWIW, I think the movie is better for it since, as you note, York and Jordan were already in their 30s, and they were younger than Voight and Devane. That said, your #1 point in the video is absolutely true, this really was the last scifi film of its kind (before Star Wars changed *everything*) ... and I have always enjoyed it.
Damn shame Lindsay Wagner didn't play Jessica.....☹
Even more fun - Lindsay Wagner played Bionic Woman. Farrah Fawcett later married Lee Majors, who played Bionic Man!
@@nobody46820 I was a big Lindsay Wager fan when I was younger. Yes, I would've liked to see her in this, but I also like Agutter. Maybe not as pretty as Wagner, but still sensual.
@@nobody46820 I think it would have helped her career had she been in the film.
@@ownpetard8379 Yep.
Logan's Run is one of those movies that might not be considered a "good" movie, but it will always hold a special place in my heart. I really enjoyed watching it when it in 1976. (I was just 14 that summer.)
Be sure to see the Trivia section at IMDb for a lot more interesting bits of trivia regarding the movie.
Of the six main cast members, four of them (Richard Jordan, Farrah Fawcett, Roscoe Kee Browne, and Peter Ustinov) have all passed. Only York and Agutter are still with us.
(And yes, Agutter was absolutely stunning in this.)
i loved it too
It was a highly entertaining movie at the time. I loved it!
I first remember seeing this on t.v. with my father. I didn't pay much attention at first until Agutter was on the scene. She looked great!
The Logan’s run carousel comes to mind quite often... esp whenever I see the short TikTok videos and the like. Funny how similar people's unhappy and shallow existences are nearly the same.
Agutter was saaaaa-mokin hot!
Bonus Fact: Michael York had a cameo in another Sci-Fi classic. He played one of the apes in Spaceballs that viewed Lord Helmet and President Scroob crawling out of the destroyed remains of Spaceball 1, ala Planet of the Apes.
His line was, "Shit. There goes the neighborhood."
He has a guest appearance in "Babylon 5" as well.
I KNEW that was York!
Cool facts.
Nope, that's not him. Sounds like it but he denies it.
@@mikeconner3684 Its listed on his imdb page.
One of the best science fiction movies, ever. The concepts, the acting, the story line and even the special effects still stand up.
I was fortunate enough to see this at a drive-in. While the effects look dated today on our super clear HD TVs on the huge drive-in screen it was epic!
Same here. I agree.
Are you sure it wasn't the 25 foot Jenny Agutter you were noticing?
@@MrRezRising I was about 13 so yes definitely!
Amen! LR was filmed in TODD-AO 35mm format, which made for an impressive visual experience. My first viewing was an 8mm print in 1979, so I'm jealous.
@@luisderivas6005 thanks for that info! Even though I'm a layman for technical data it gives me some context.
There is a definitive aesthetic to "Logan's Run" and this made a tremendous impression on me as a youth of 10 years old at the time! It sounds a bit trite to say, "This was a Golden Era of Science Fiction" but, for young pre-teenage boys, girls and even older young adults, this movie was visionary! It was a deeply immersive alternate universe of one possible future of humanity and I found it detailed enough to completely make sense (just remember, that's "sense" to a mush-brained 10 year old) and be convinced this may be a future that WILL happen!
"Star Wars" by contrast was not a "we humans had better be careful" story because it was not set on Earth or any familiar place. And the movies including Terra Firma are a bit more edgy, scary and intriguing to me -- perhaps more familiar, and of course this began my love of Science Fiction which continues as strong as ever to this day, some 44 years later!
I even got a Sci-Fi inspired, original art tattoo on my right hip, just about where Logan's Sandman blaster may have rested on his hip.
Thank the powers that be we have made it this far without needing to implement a Carousel "lottery-like" system of population reduction or I would not be able to write this comment ENCOURAGING present day 10 year olds to READ Science Fiction and love the stories which will become the movies to be made in 5, 10 or 15 years time!
... (That's 2025, 2030 and 2035 for those brainwashed into the "New Math" school of thinking!)
There are big stories out there and far brighter, more ambitious minds than mine have done amazing film-making such as James Cameron with "Terminator" (1984), "The Abyss" (1989) and "Avatar" (2009) which are also, must see movies!
Enjoy!
Excellent review, I hope you write professionally; else the world is missing out.
I showed this movie to my daughters about 5 or 6 years ago when they were in their very early teens, half expecting them to dismiss it as old cheesy nonsense, but they were mesmerised by it. They generally dislike 'old movies' , but Logan's Run had them enthralled. I think one thing going for it is that it's a sort of coming of age story. It's about growing out of childish play and self absorption and facing up to the dangers and responsibilities of the real or 'adult' world.
Kinda risque for an early teen, I think. Unless it was the PG 13 version.
I admit that Logans Run does have some interesting themes and concepts. Like how this supposedly perfect lifestyle is all an illusion.
Fun fact: the granite waterfalls location in Logan’s Run was filmed in the Ft. Worth Water Gardens in Ft. Worth Texas, USA. I used to live in the area and visited the location a few years ago. It was absolutely surreal to see a filming location from a movie that was such a huge part of my childhood!!
Sad Fact: The city had to make changes to the water gardens, too many people jumping into the pool at the bottom and being pulled under buy the pumps. After the second death it was drained and sat empty until the law suits were completed, since then changes have be made to prevent people from going under.
wow i had no idea i just looked it up on google thanks man
The administration building seen in the movie (O:40), is located at Stemmons Freeway and 183 in Dallas. It’s called Pegasus Place.
The Water Gardens were designed by world famous architect Philip Johnson. He also designed the Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove, California.
@@brianking768 At the time the movie was filmed this was the Zale's Building. Zale's was a big jewelry store franchise in malls at the time. I lived about 5 miles from it in Irving, TX. Oh, another cool fact. The Tandy Towers (better known as Radio Shack) in Fort Worth were used as well. I went to HS with a girl, Pamela Booker, who was an extra in the scenes filmed at the Tandy Towers.
The sound effects may seem "outdated" today, but I think they add to the film's charm. Unlike the screeching, thundering industrial sound effects common in sci fi movies nowadays, the sounds in Logan's Run are more soothing and at times, surreal and dreamy.
Yeah, especially the whooshing of those monorails zipping through those tubes connecting one building to another in the domed city. BART and DC's Metrorail had very modern trains, but nothing beats watching those zippy two-seater cars whooshing through those tubes!
This "outdated" sound is far superior to the trash noise they put in modern movies.
Like the original series of Star Trek.
Tidbits on the Marvel comic adaptation:
1. Marvel did not have the rights to the likenesses of the actors, so Logan, Jessica, Francis, etc. bear only a passing resemblance to the movie characters.
2. Most of the comic was based on the shooting script, rather than the finished and edited film. Hence scenes that were cut from the movie are in the comic and costumes have some differences due to being based on pre-production art. This is also the reason why the life-clocks were drawn on the right palm in the comic while they were on the left in the film.
3. After Marvel's five issue adaptation of the film, the comic continued for two more issues, continuing the story of the City-dwellers adapting to the new world outside. However due to miscommunication, Marvel didn't actually have the rights to continue the story, and MGM forced Marvel to cease and desist without finishing the new storyline. One filler story that had already been planned for a future issue was heavily re-edited to remove everything specific to Logan's Run and was later published in Marvel's Bizarre Adventures magazine.
And issue #6 had a separate story, unrelated to Logan's Run, of some dude named " Thanos", but nothing ever came of him.. 😉
Ah! You missed my favorite bit o’ trivia. The music. All the music in the movie is electronic, until they break out of the City and then it turns classic orchestral. So, in the high tech, neon and glass city, the sound track matches the visuals. When Logan and Jessica literally see the light of the morning sun, their whole world has a natural appearance and sound.
💖💖💖YES
What a neat dis,covery. That totally makes sense
That's very cool about the music transition. I never noticed.
@@r1verman You didn't notice because the transition was so natural, but you must have sensed the difference in the mood between the two environments.
It's because they didn't mention the music in the Wikipedia article about Logan's Run, which is where all these "10 things you didn't know" came from.
Peter Ustinov -- the original cat lady
He had better diction than most cat ladies lol!
Ah man, I have a stomach ache and making me laff is painful af, so thanks for that.
"Cats!"
Peter Ustinov's MIDDLE AGES
Excellent video review of an excellent movie disguised as 70s sci fi kitsch. Will love this movie forever. Although not in the same league of some of its more famous late 60's predecessors, it still deserves much love and appreciation. Also, Agutter may have appeared in "An American Werewolf in London" a few years later a bit more conventional and although she may have hated the costume. That costume was straight up the source of many male adolescent fantasies.
This is my absolute favorite pre-Star Wars 70s scifi film. Michael York is one of my 70s dreamboats along with Ryan O'Neal, and Jenny Agutter is one of the single most beautiful women ever to grace the silver screen. I will sing Logan's Run's praises forever and ever. It is both old fashioned and modern, both beautiful and gritty, both romantic and brutal, and I love it so much. And idk what anyone says, the Ewan McGregor/Sean Bean/Scarlett Johansson film The Island is a loose but obvious remake of Logan's Run. Change my mind lol.
Well..., there is the "what they think is happening" is not the full story in a futuristic setting similarity. Actually, good observation.
I thoroughly enjoyed The Island, perhaps in its fullness (qualifier) better than Logan's Run. However, LR was so unique, I like LR better than The Island through all but the LR ending. Peter Ustinov was acting too much and the concept of the ending was distracting. Logan and Jessica could be shown learning on their own what the situation is with a lesser personality than Ustinov to confirm what they found.
Even down to the naming conventions (i.e. Lincoln 6.)
Both are my favorites and your comment clarified why that probably is now that I think about it...
Jenny was SO hot in Logan's Run & American Werewolf in London.
Jenny's daughter played the female lead in An American Werewolf in Paris.
Totally!! She was something. Saw both movies in the theater. :)
@@scottbernard8824 I remember. The nurse. The shower scene. She inspired my teenage imagination at the time.
Um. No. The character was implied to have been the daughter of JAs character but the actress who played in AWIP isn't JAs daughter irl lol
I noticed her name in the credits at the end of an episode "Call the Midwife". Made me feel even older. :(
I remember seeing it at the theater I was 7 and to this day it still evokes an unsettling feeling in me a feeling that the movie was revealing something very true about human nature.
it was revealing the truth, but age 80. at and after that age society doesn't care in the west. And in nursing homes and hospices they feel it better to starve the people to death than look to cure them.
@@karma2.098 Society maybe but not me, my moms 82, she lives with me, it's not easy sometimes but she would give me the world if she could I'll never be able to pay her back for all she's done for me but at least I can try. I live in Texas.
@@jackwilliamson1929 Same but opposite family member. My dad brought me up from childhood. He went out of his way to give me the world. So when he was ill at 81 (living with him for 20 years up until illness) I returned the honour to look after him until he was better. Sadly he went onto transition to be another angel to watch over me 😇🥰
Farrah Fawcett was quite the "It girl" at the time of the release. She was a fixture on ABC's made for TV movies and her ads for Noxema were a milestone in every adolescent male's development. The "Charlie's Angels" pilot had aired in March and her now legendary red swimsuit poster was released almost simultaneously with film. Needless to say MGM publicity made the most of her two scenes in the film
Oh yeah the swimsuit poster.
My best friend bought me this on DVD for my 30th birthday. No joke.
Your friend has a good sense of humor.
Awesome friend 👍🤙
If your friend was really mean, they would have gotten it for you on your 29th birthday and watch you have nightmares leading up to your 30th birthday like the rest of us.
Lifeclock is a lie! There is no renewal, only death. Love that line.
Reminds me of a friend who made me a mixed tape after my hernia operation in college and the first song was Weird Al's "Living With A Hernia".
This was my cousin Farrah's first movie that I ever saw her in; so it holds a special place in my heart. I liked the shiny, happy look of the city of domes, especially compared to the workaday drab, industrial look of Alien (which I also loved!). All good wishes.
Farrah was your cousin? That is cool, I always had a big crush on her. At 60 it still makes me sad she's gone
@Mike Flynn Swingers :) . Do you mean Hippy types or 'swingers' ?
@@thisolddog2259 Yes. Farrah and I shared a great grandmother who lived in Texarkanna, AR; so we were second cousins.
Logans run is one of the best sf movies with a real message, in those days sf had a message like Silent Running.
I was *just* going to post a note about Silent Running - another of my favorites from that era (with #3 going to Enemy Mine).
I loved Silent Running too. Would've benefited from a naked Jenny Agutter though. Then again what wouldn't.
Oh, yeah, I also liked "Silent Running" with Bruce Dern and those droids named Huey, Dewey, and Louie caring for those plants under a Conservatory dome on a ship heading somewhere. The underlying theme song was sad and made me cry.
Jenny Agutter is lovely, I met her in 1984 when I did a little bit of acting
Tell us more about your acting and meeting her?
@@studinthemaking not much to tell, it marked my first and only TV/acting appearance ! Unless you count that time I got my camp entertainment pennant in guides!
Google Nether Wallop Film Festival - it was Oct 1984. I was 11
I can’t believe all those amazing people were there looking at it now!
Jenny and Sir Michael Hordern narrated the history of the village (that went back to the doomsday book) and basically walked around the village and talked about significant areas - the local school children were involved and that’s where I come in. My part was the spirit of the village so I stood with Jenny and Michael throughout, which was pretty cool.
I didn’t have any lines as I just represented the community spirit through the ages - I remember what I wore was made by an art student in London - like a big white thing that said spirit of Nether Wallop on it - I remember it being in bronze script and being very impressed it had been made in London
The whole area was very historical with Bronze Age forts etc, I didn’t live in the village but up the road in Middle Wallop on the army base
Definitely google though as there’s quite a bit of information on it
I hope this is a new Jenny thing for you as that’d be cool
She's a lot more than "lovely". A Lot more.
@@richardm3023 Yah! She did some nude scenes as a very young lady in Walkabout in 1971-va-va-voom! Good movie too!:)-John in Texas
I met her in the early noughties in Camberwell where she lives.
Logan's Run was my first Sci Fi movie I ever saw. my parents were way into these kinds of movies, but I was way too young to hear about the apocalypse lol. I looooooved this movie so much.
I work at Marvel Comics now, and i used to have the original Logan's Run comics we produced. they were pretty amazing but everything George Perez did (God rest his soul, he died from cancer earlier this year) was gold, no matter if he worked for DC or Marvel (he was the artist on Crisis on Infinite Earths, if you havent seen that series WHY LORD WHY HAVENT YOU READ THAT SERIES), so it was essential reading. I pulled the comics from our database just now so I can stroll down memory lane :)
Thanks for this episode Minty, I appreciate your efforts very much!
You are right about Jerry Goldsmith. As a composer myself, I can't tell you how great a writer he was. Brilliant genius man!
7:10 The model of the domed city in Logan's Run looks like Walt Disney's original model for EPCOT. They even included a "monorail" thru the building, just like at Disney's Contemporary Resort.
I watched this again recently but with my 9 yr old daughter… she loved it! She reminded me of myself when I first saw it as a kid. This tells me that it doesn’t matter if it’s an old movie and a little outdated, it is a classic and still has what it takes to impress today’s generation.
I thought it was absolutely terrifying how in the not-to-distant future we are all doomed to live in a shopping mall.
Actually, that is what it has in common with the more recent, “Divergent”.
Now it would be an Amazon warehouse.
Well the Sand men got a little longer,they got carouseled at 36
I wouldn't mind living in a shopping mall inhabited by hot-looking babes like Jenny Agutter and Farrah Fawcett. I wonder if the food court and game arcade would have been free?
Could be worse, could be the shopping mall of Dawn of the Dead..
As I get older, Logan's run gets better. Sure, I could go for renewal, But I would probably run. But Minty, I can't believe you didn't address the elephant in the room, the Vulcan salute in the end scene. I love the guy who did that bit of cross-franchise chicanery.
The futuristic guns the 'Sandmen' used in the film were actually just modified butane filled lighters. Apparently they didn't always work on cue and caused a lot of delays in filming. Also the tv series actually sold quite well around the world but by then it had already been cancelled due to it's ratings in the US (incidentally Terminator star Michael Biehn has a small role in the pilot episode). And even as a kid I always found that miniature model of the city to be very unconvincing despite the fact it was apparently the biggest model made for a movie at the time
Definitely agree on the city model being unconvincing. It really sticks out. Even just a couple of years later, they did a much more convincing futuristic city in the pilot episode of "Battlestar Galactica" with a combination of practical sets and matte paintings. And on a television budget.
The big failure of the city model was the water. No attempt was made to make the water look like anything larger than a small puddle. It ruined the scale.
The model looked like something from a 1930s sci fi film. Even the Krell city in 1955 film Forbidden film looked more convincing. If you think that just 6 years later in 1982, Ridley Scott's city in Blade Runner had a massively better model city (although the mood lighting in that may have helped its appearance too). Even so, Total Recall (1990) had an excellent model city. It's difficult to pinpoint exactly why Logan's run model looks so fake. Yes, the water doesn't help but I think the bright lighting doesn't help and neither does the lack of detail. Possibly from a technical point of view perhaps the lense used or even the film stock ? Interestingly director Michael Anderson had a solid history of effects heavy films that used a lot of modelwork so it's odd this film isn't up to standard in that department.
The rippling of the water in the tank betrays the scale of the set. Fluid dynamics ruined that expensive miniature cityscape.
I've known about this movie since I was a kid. I finally bought and watched it in 2019 and wow this movie really impressed me. Very underrated and a good movie to watch even today.
Bravo to you for calling attention to the soundtrack. A good soundtrack definitely enhances a good movie, yet few people realize this. Star Wars and Blade Runner are just two films that depend on their excellent soundtracks to give them something unique. You can recognize excerpts from these films instantly; they don't sound like any other film.
Loved the movie AND the series. The movie is sometimes forgotten and the series never had a chance. A real shame. I was 12 when the movie came out and you are absolutely right. Just under a year later, EVERYTHING changed.
I’m 53! I absolutely love old classic science fiction. The fact that we can see strings in movies such as this and others such as the black hole, only make the movies more endearing. I love the old-school look of these movies and, I watch them when they were first introduced. Yes, I did also watch the series that was on TV. I was in love with it. I am now a cult movie collector. Collecting stuff such as Battle be on the stars and of course the aforementioned the black hole. I also collect other types of genres, but Syfy is where it’s at. Good video!
"There's no dog in this" :-)
I love Logan's Run. I sincerely hope that nobody ever chooses to remake it.
Logan's Rum sounds great! Where can I find it?
@@MarkGoding It is available on to rent on Prime Video
Sadly, Hollywood would definitely remake it out of nostalgia or just simply they just run out of new ideas.
They've been trying to do a re-make for years. But, the drama behind that sounds a lot like the drama associated with the original production...
As far as I'm concerned, I don't mind waiting till Hollywood is done with their stupid "WOKE movement." That will only ruin it...
Nicholaus Winding Refn of Drive fame was set to remake it a few years back but it fell through.
I saw it on TV as a child and have been a science fiction fan ever since. My favourite film because of the futuristic atmosphere. On Soundcloud I uploaded a song of mine with the sound of Logan's Run.
I vote for Sean Connery's Outland from 1981. That movie is totally good and totally underrated.
Outland is worth watching. It's been so long I didn't even associate it with Sean Connery, just the story.
Outland is a brilliant Sci-Fi western (it was a version of High Noon), the models for the colony building, and shuttle has a nice gritty style (that is not out of place in the Alien universe - especially with corporate greed). Outland needs a video feature on your channel Minty.
Seconded. That's one of my favorite movies. Also one of the first DVD's I purchased. Lots of good material there. Lots of good Sean. Lots of good supporting characters.
I agree.
Another good Sean Connery movie is Zardoz
Absolutely, that's a great movie, and absolutely underrated.
It's High Noon in outer space.
Matter of fact it was just on one of the Starz channels the other day and I watched it.
growing up with this film and American werewolf... Jenny A was always in my teenage thoughts.. and still is !! LOL
Other things I remember different in the book was it wasn’t a “city of domes”, it was the whole world, that’s why Sanctuary was an off-world colony. The guns weren’t plasma throwers, they were guns that fired switchable specialized ammo like Judge Dredd’s lawgiver, and there had been plenty of Sandmen who had run so the guns had screamer alarms built in for if their owners had become runners the alarms on the guns would start screaming and couldn’t turn off(although you could still use them for some reason),I personally thought the plasma guns were cooler but the tv version gun had stun settings as well for a bit more flexibility.
I remember when this came out. The miniature set was all the talk for how amazing and detailed it was. The cars zipping through those clear tubes fascinated everyone. One of my all time favorites.
Yeah, I also loved watching those cars zipping through those tubes connecting the buildings in the domed city. I sometimes wonder whether Walt Disney got the idea for Epcot if he watched Logan's Run before conceiving of Epcot's Future World.
@@shepwillner7507 What a great thought! Now I’m wondering.
For it's time, Logan's Run was a fun movie! However, as said, "Star Wars" so dwarfed "Logan's Run" special effects that it was immediately "yesterday's news!" And just as "The Jazz Singer" changed films in the late 20's, Star Wars" throughly changed the way "special effects" were done in future films! Seeing them back to back you realize how totally different they are!
Fun fact - the novel didn't have the carousel construct from the film, instead, upon reaching 21 and the life clock going dark, the person willingly went to a deep sleep facility. Something along the lines of the 'final memorium' facility in the film Soylent Green. There was also no one City in the book; the phenomenon of deep sleep was world wide, to stem the world population in many cities, connected by underground tunnels. The 70's has a number of films worried about overpopulation. Zero Population Grown (1971) is another fine example, were procreators faced death for violating the birth moratorium.
Did you enjoy the book?
With the world's population as high as it is now and still rising there is still reason for concern. China did try to limit overpopulation with their "one child" policy, and since couples were prosecuted for breaking it humanity have really taken a step towards such over population steps that people did fear.
@@havareriksen1004 reminds me of the 'upcoming ice age' in the 70s too.
@@sheilalarson8964 Books. There are at least 3 (Logan's Run, Logan's World, Logan's Search) along with a bunch of comic books, novellas, unpublished works and whatnot. I enjoyed the first book before I saw the movie (and more than the movie, truth be told), and then the second and third novels in descending levels of enjoyment. Contrary to a lot of opinion, I would very much like to see a remake with newer technology, but also staying closer to the book than the existing movie did.
@@brucecarter7418 I agree with you. I'd like to see a remake as well
Logan's Run was epic. The lead actress was amazing (she also knocked it out of the park with "American Werewolf" about 10 years later). Note that her character's greatest innovation - no bra - was utilized by Lucas in creating "Star Wars" just a year or two later. Also worthy of note: all the actors over 30 in the principal cast were male, all the actors under 30 were female.
I am not convinced Lucas got the idea from Jessica's costume. Lucas's argument for no bras seemed to be connected with the weighlessness in space, even though everyone walks around under seemingly normal gravity on even such small crafts as the Millenium Falcon.
It wasn't an innovation. It was just the edgy fashion of the time. I don't think anyone in their twenties at the time thought twice about it. It made the look today-forward rather than all the sci-fi babes in uplift bras of the Sixties.
Not to be pedantic, but American Werewolf in London was five years later... And Jenny Agutter, a beautiful woman with a voice that melted my adolescent heart, was terrific as Nurse Alex Price.
In the original novel, the termination age was 21 years old. The follow up novel Logan's World expanded on the outside world where Logan found himself.
I'm guessing they'd struggle to find any Hollywood heavyweights that could carry off 21?
Bonus fact... The water they dive into at the end to get back into the city, is the Water Gardens in Fort Worth Texas. Where several years ago, some kids drowned in it. The city made it shallow to prevent anything like that happening again. It's still there today, but too shallow to dive into. Plus, you're not supposed to get into it.
There are many fountains all over the wold you're not supposed to climb into, especially the world famous Trevi Fountain in Rome. If you get caught climbing into that fountain, you'll be arrested and required to pay a big fine. Tourist police officers are all over the place, using their whistles, shouting, and running to stop tourists from entering the fountain.
important oversight. at least in the movie people don't know carousel is basically an electric chair. people think they ascend to a higher state of being.
some figure out and RUN.
Yeah, that's kind of a major important aspect of the film. Logan was a company man, proud of his work and position, when he was chosen to seek out knowledge, and once he started learning, he became woke. It took him from being a stooge to being a revolutionary. He was content with the order of things before, blindly believing what the powers that be told him, but once he saw one lie for what it was, he began thinking for himself.
Higher state? Don't they think they get re-born? That's why everyone yells "renew!" when somebody gets zapped.
@@epowell4211 Somewhat like Montag the Fireman
No, he got prematurely "aged" and ordered to run. When he couldn't go home again, he was just like every other runner. He wanted to live.
I always thought of it more as a giant bug zapper. =)
The subject of culling the population, to avoid overpopulation, was a big subject in the sixties and seventies. Since this film was made we can see the results with societies globally ageing as our leaders bought the concept of population reduction, contemptuously considering and treating their population as livestock.
When you realize that only a SINGLE YEAR separated the release of Logan's Run from Star Wars, you should truly understand how Ground Breaking George Lucas's creation actually was.
If Lucas saw far it was because he was standing on shoulders of giants.
@@j.dragon651 I wholeheartedly agree and I've always loved that quote. Here're a couple others:
"If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants." - Isaac Newton 1675
"Bernard of Chartres used to compare us to dwarfs perched on the shoulders of giants. He pointed out that we see more and farther than our predecessors, not because we have keener vision or greater height, but because we are lifted up and borne aloft on their gigantic stature." - John of Salisbury 1159
@@JohnFourtyTwo that is why I wrote it. Anyway, Lucas was standing on Kubricks' shoulders and he was standing on ..
@@j.dragon651 He also gives credit to Joseph Campbell's "The Hero With A Thousand Faces" as inspiration also.
You mean put a mash -up Yojimbo & spaghetti westerns in space?
I saw Logan's Run several times. GREAT movie! Another really great underrated sci-fi is Blade Runner.
Lol Blade runner is t underrated.
Blade Runner is rated in the top 5 of all time every year so . . . not underrated at all!
I do agree, I saw Logans run many years ago on TV, it just has that quality about it that works, and it stays in the memory.
I remember seeing this this movie when it came out. I was 16 then and the age of 30 sounded ancient to me. Now I am 61, living in the future, I would love to go back to being 30.
You need to shift to a different timeline where you are younger.
Jenny Agutter and Farrah Faucet were Cute as Dolls back then on this Movie
Yes, two bombshell icons from the 70s
I was very young in the 70's and many years later when I got a chance to watch the Logan's Run movie again, there were parts that I remembered that weren't in it. When you said the TV show had a retelling of the movie it all clicked. I would have been much more likely to have seen the TV show than the movie back then. I know I had seen some of the movie, the initial carousel scene especially. Thanks for doing this list!
Very well done! I remember Logan's Run and was a big Fan of the original movie so watched every TV episode with my father, who like me, found stories about the future fascinating. We did think the TV series was not that good but there was little on TV then that was. This may have been the time when home computers were still a dream, portable phones thought to be impossible and the thought of a world wide wide computer system to be frightening, but we weren't so primitive as to like the cheesy special effects. Many "sophisticated" people laughed that that aspect. We were thoroughly by the great movies of 1976 like the dramas of Network, Rocky, All The Presidents Men, Taxi Driver, Marathon Man, the comedy Bad News Bears and the huge Fantasy remake of King Kong but Logan's Run had a terrific story with SOME good Acting so it was the movie you saw when your first choice was sold out. By the way, "Minty" your analysis is well researched and written but those Sunglasses are really annoying. When people cannot see your eyes, they lose trust and respect for you. Chuck them out and slow down your cadence just a little to sound more natural. Your voice is fine when you don't try so hard. Sounding like Robin Leach gushing about Hollywood Star's Mansions is distracting and takes away from your believability.
I did think it was kind of cool that the TV series completely made a new version of the movie with a different ending to set up a Fugitive-style chase as the status quo. It's fun comparing the two versions of the movie. All the effects scenes are the same, but they re-filmed the parts with the main actors (with a much lower budget). It's a fun and weird thing to watch. The series after that goes downhill fast because it can't figure out what to do, but I still love the car they drove!
@@wtk6069 You remember it well. Of course the girls were gorgeous and it was Sci-fi so I liked it at first. The TV Series Starred Gregory Harrison who still Acts on "General Hospital" and here's trivia: the female Lead was Canadian Heather Menzies who was already famous from being Lousia von Trapp in "The Sound of Music" and then a Playboy Centerfold.
FYI: All of Jenny's films have a scene where the direction is "...and then all her clothes fell off." absolutely fantastic!
I'll have to look 👀 into her films! Oooo, la la!!! I was 13 yrs old when Logan's Run came out! I spent my newspaper route $$$ going to the theater. I watched that movie 3 times in a row. Then, twice more that week!
Names of the other movies.
@@Awestefeld6612 American Werewolf in London, Equus, Walkabout, Sweet Willian, China 9, liberty 37....
You can't get more stunning than Jenny Agutter. Yowza.
My favorite pessimistic sci-fi of that era is Woody Allen's "Sleeper"
My favorite product placement is the McDonald's with the sign with the super long line of zeros showing the number of burgers sold.
If my memory is correct, this film also predicted Tinder all those years back.
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This one will always be one of my guilty pleasures. Richard Jordan's death sceen has stuck with me since I was a kid. Such a interesting and unique story! Thanks Minty!
The death of Francis 7 is even better in the comics.
Why feel guilty about it? I'm definitely not feeling guilty for loving this movie!
Things I DO know about Logans Run,,its fantastic, I love it. I own a DVD copy, and have seen it many many times, the first time in the theater back in the day,,,now at 66 years old, looking at Jenny still makes me feel incredible,,,,.
I am so thankful to have been born when I was,,,,this future that is reality scares me as much as Logans world, but the girls are thankfully still lovely to behold...
I’m so old that I saw this movie in the theatre when it came out.
Don't feel bad, I saw "2001 a space odyssey" at the theater when it came out.
I know the feeling. I love YT comments but so many writers have NO IDEA what has happened historically, I lived through it.
Shhh. Sandmen are still around. They just call us "Boomer's" instead of runner's now.
So was I. I was 11 when my brother and saw this movie. I thought it was awesome.
@@stevepiner2094 That’s probably about how old I was. My parents were divorced and I remember my father took me to see it. He always took me to better movies than my mom. My mom took me to see Gone With the Wind when I was a child. It was long and boring. My father took me to see the Sound of Music. Obviously way better for a child since it had children in it. My dad wasn’t great but he did do some awesome things for me
Logan's Run was a favorite of mine since I first saw it as a kid. And, It's still a favorite in my adult years. Thanks, Minty. I enjoyed watching this : )
"Logan's Run" is severely underrated and almost forgotten today! Anyone who hasn't seen it, NEEDS TO.
I imagine a lot of Veterans and old cops like this movie. Logan is a happy naive Follower of the System when the film begins. He kills whoever he is told too. Because he was taught that was the right thing to do. He mocks and laughs at any MISFIT who questions the System. But then he learns the Truth. And he goes from being happy and naive, to bitter and rebellious in one day. He tries to convince his best friend of the Truth. But his friend can’t let go of what he has been programmed to believe, and would rather fight Logan to the death, than accept the Truth.
I didn’t understand that stuff has a kid seeing this. But as an adult , I’m blown away.
That seems disrespectful to our police and military.
@@elizabethlyons1066 I'm a veteran and I enjoyed this movie, and recognized the theme Steven Spenneberg is commenting. I tend to think that it's more an illustration of why the SS, Gestapo, and Wehrmacht carried out orders without hesitation that seem to be utter madness to us, than a reflection of my experiences in the U.S. military, but the dangers of fanaticism and soldiers losing sight of right and wrong are there. The U.S. military makes a significant effort from basic training all the way through a soldier's career to make sure we know the laws of war, the Geneva and Hague conventions, that we know that our first loyalty is to the Constitution and the Nation, before any politicians or officers, that we have an obligation to disobey unlawful orders, and that we do not blindly follow our leaders. We lean about the war-crimes trials after world war 2, and that "following orders" does not justify crimes against humanity. And we still have some people in our ranks who lose sight of right and wrong and who do go overboard. Most of us aren't like the Sandmen, who kill without question because they don't know any other way. Logan's Run, however, does present a strong warning of what any military or police force could become if they are sufficiently isolated from moral and legal concerns and trained to blind obedience.
I loved when Family Guy did a Logan's Run homage when Brian had his mid-life crisis.
I often explain to younger people what a game changer Star Wars was. The special effects before and after are night and day. "Seeing the wires" and that type of thing was just no longer acceptable.
Jenny wore that costume well. I mean, she was stunning in it
She would be stunning in anything :)
@@hedgehog1965uk ... and not disappointing in nothing either.
And she was one of the members on that shadowy council that secretly runs S.H.I.E.L.D. in those Marvel movies. You can see her in Captain America: Winter Soldier and hear her voice (because the council members' faces are all obscured in darkness) in Marvel's Avengers when they order Nick Fury to initiate a nuke strike in Manhattan.
Jenny is the total sexy package.
Probably the best example of wardrobe shrinking as the movie goes on there ever was
"... science fiction movies had become about dysfunctional futuristic societies, full of death and destruction often caused by corruption of technology and/or government."
Yeah, that'll never happen.
I think The Terminator brought that era back.
Logans run. Planet of the apes. Time machine. Black hole. Love science fiction.
2:14 that’s the Fort Worth Water Gardens. You can actually visit it any day you want. It’s pretty cool though!
I am surprised that wasn't mentioned. Some considerable matting was done to film that wide shot so you couldn't tell there were massive buildings surrounding it.
I was going to mention that fact, you beat me to it.
I went there once when I lived in Ft. Worth in the early 90s.
You can still visit the Fort Worth Water Gardens today.
Yep, I was born and lived just NW of Fort Worth
I was 10 years old when this came out. I remember watching this on TV along with the 6 million dollar man then Battle Star Galactica came out.
I miss those old TV shows.
Me too! The weekend lineup of shows was pure gold back then.
I was eight years old at the time.
@@forliberty1805 I just checked out the complete original Battlestar Galactica on blue ray from my library!
the concept is what really made the movie get you past the fake or cheesy moments. i feel thry did the best they could with what they had. i was a young'un and remember the sense of wonder it gave me as story unfolded, it was the sci fi of Wizard Of Oz for me. i also considered it very artistic in many ways even as a child i recognized the effort of that craft and may have realized the the full impact of those who created it intended to have regardless of the tech shortcomings
The HBO Series "Westworld" has a similar style of '70s futuristic locations and architectures. The similarities to Logan's Run and "The Lathe of Heaven" (another movie with a Dallas-Fort Worth connection) are a large part of why I enjoy Westworld so much. Visit Las Colinas in Irving, Texas, sometime for a small scale real-life visual experience with the flavor of all three movies. It is starting to develop a derelict patina, so don't wait too long.
I remember seeing Logan's Run at the local drive-in in the summer of 76. It was a double feature with Rollerball. Don't know that I've watched Rollerball more than a couple of times since then but I've seen Logan's Run probably close to a hundred times. Love the movie, but Jenny Agutter is a big part that. Still one of the sexiest women ever to hit the big screen. I'd take her over Farah any day.
Definitely Jennifer over Farrah, I may get hate for this taking Jennifer as a 10, Farrah is a 9
You remind me of a lot of my friends back in high school. I love stories by true fans. Thanks for the insights. I loved Logan's Run and all those other classic sci fi's from those days.
Jenny Augutter is a real beautiful woman, I seen this movie when it was released in the theater back in 1976! I couldn't been more than 8 yrs old.
I was 11.
Jenny was in both the Railway Children films the original one as the eldest daughter and then the mother in the remake. Both are really good.
This year it’s the 50th anniversary of the making of the original Railway Children, and the Keighley and Worth Valley Railway (where it was filmed) were planning anniversary events. Unfortunately, a certain virus caused a change in the plans...
There is a book about the making of the film, available from the railway.
In the Railway Children, the younger daughter was played by Sally Thomsett despite being two years older than Jenny. Sally was cast as 11 year old Phyllis, despite being 20 at the time. I'd argue that was a rather more bit of extreme age casting than a 33 year old Michael York playing a 30 year old. Of course Michael York always had that touch of Peter Pan eternal youth about him.
@@TheEulerID she was ordered not to drive to the set in her new MG so as not to dispel the idea that she was a child, heard this on a radio interview with Sally Thomset about twenty years ago, she still sounded a bit miffed about it.
OMG that's Jenny?
I loved the TV series, I was only 8 or 9 when I watched it back in the 70’s but it has stuck in my mind ever since.
As for the Logan's Run Tv show it starred The Sound Of Music's Heather Menzies and guest starred Nicholas Hammond and Angela Cartwright (who were both in The Sound Of Music) on two separate episodes. I think the film City Of Amber is a little similar to Logan's Run is some respects. Oh and Jenny Agutter, wow what a gal.
the series wasnt so bad, better than others based on movies
I have the series on DVD. I love it! Shame it flopped. Logan was played by Gregory Harrison who would go on to play Dr. Gonzo Gates in the MASH spinoff Trapper John M.D. Oh, and as for Nicholas Hammond and Angela Cartwright: Angela is probably best known for playing Penny Robinson in the Lost in Space TV series in the 60s Nicholas Hammond would become 'infamous' as the first live-action Spider-Man. ( he was also the doofus who turned down a date with Marcia Brady because her nose was swollen: "Something suddenly came up!" 😁)
I remember the TV series and enjoyed it. There was a Planet of the Apes one as well, wasnt there?
@@casinodelonge ... Yes there was, in 1974. Also only 14 episodes, it starred Roddy McDowell as Galen. McDowell played Cornelius in the first and third Apes films and Caesar in the 4th & 5th. During the 80s the series was re edited into 5 TV movies.
Nice vid! Here are 2 things that I would add: 1st the tv series suffered mostly from CBS bouncing the timeslot around. That is what really killed it. 2nd, the glass tubes that they travel around in the movie that is in the huge city miniature inspired the Mego toy company to make the toy Micronauts Rocket Tubes in the late 70's.
Dystopian movies are making a come back,it seems like in the 70s ,there are constantly Doomsday films about the environmental disaster and Nuclear war,or some zombie outbreak..Logan’s Run was a fun film to watch,still love it,...Beautiful film..👍👍👍👍
Logan’s run. Actually one of my favourite films.
I credit Logan's Run as the movie that started my life long love of sci-fi
This, Andromeda Strain, and Silent Running. Silent Running I think is underrated by everyone but hardcore fans.
For me, the movies that made me love Sci fi were "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Fantastic Voyage". But what really captured my affection for classical music was "2001" for all those wonderful pieces by Richard Strauss and Johann Strauss II that were played throughout the movie.
I credit Logan's Run as the movie that started my life long love of Jenny Agutter.
I'd forgotten about this movie - but I do remember seeing it when I was a little kid. I agree with you about the appeal of watching this movie in our current era...thanks for the reminder - I'm gonna watch this asap !!
I just watched it for the first time, having grown up when Star Wars exploded. I had no idea this movie even existed, even tho I was a sci-fi fan from a young age. I enjoyed this thoroughly for exactly the reasons you state; the old vintage vibe that we haven't seen since. It was a lot of fun if you put aside any real critical thought about it, lol. Also discovered the original Solaris last year, foreign language, had no idea that existed either, and loved it (tho a more intense theme).
If you like the film, read the book. It is intense and exciting.
When it came out I recall going to see it at least 7 times. I bought the dvd a while ago and still enjoy it. Jenny, what can I say but WOW!
Curious that the poster images that you showed for the older style of post-apocalyptic sci-fi was THX-1138, which was made by George Lucas who made Star Wars that you show as one of the films that ushered in the new style of the genre. In a purely trivial matter George seems really attached to that movie. In the novelization of Star Wars the Stormtrooper that Luke disguises himself as had the call-sign THX-1138, in the movie the prison block that Chewy is supposedly being transferred from is cell block 1138, and the sound technology from ILM (Lucas' effects group) is branded THX Spacial Audio.
Yes.THX 1138.Another cult sci-fi classic 5 years ahead of Logans Run though. A much better film IMO. Ahead of its time lie 2001 as far as movies go.The similarities to Logan's Run are obvious. The original THX was a project Lucas made for school at USC . Check it out.
Logan's Run has always been my favorite classic sci-fi movie.