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Chris Broussard dissects the Cavaliers trading away Kyrie Irving to the Boston Celtics | THE HERD
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What are your thoughts on the Kyrie trade?
The Herd with Colin Cowherd I think a kyrie IT swap with a couple of second rounders coulda worked out but boston threw jae crowder and the nets pick for absolutely no reason
The Red Twizzler that's what Cleveland wanted
I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I think IT is a completely overrated stat stuffer that is always going to struggle because of his size. Boston looked even better when he got injured. This is not good for CLE but we all know LBJ is on his way out to L.A. because of his conflict with Dan Gilbert and admiration of Magic.
Vale, are you a NBA GM? The Pacers were looking for a king's ransom to trade George within the East, and since he only has 1 year left on his deal it makes no sense to overpay for someone who wouldn't stick around. Bradley is good no doubt, but he only has 1 year left on his deal and will get a near max deal, which he wouldn't get with the Celtics having now two max deals on their books. Might as well get something for him in return.
The Herd with Colin Cowherd cavs won the deal
"LeBron doesn't want to play alongside an 18 year old!" "He will love the Lakers young legs!" Laker Homer Colin at it
AidenHighlights well Lebron could settle down into a new role as a leader and offball player as the lakers develop into a team. He can't make the finals 20 years in a row, and the Lakers would be a good long term home
LongJohn Silverthorne there's a difference between a rook to a third year player that reminds Kd playstyle plus lonzo ball will be second year and might prove he's all that and they will then get Paul gerorge and have a lot of good young players that aren't 18 but not 30 they like around the 20s so yea it's differen
See there is a diff bw regular 18 yr old & exceptional talent that is Lonzo ball (I hope and believe)
rohit batra lonzo ball isn't a transformative talent bagley porter are lonzo is merely a piece to help you a floor general not a star
Broussard The Man right as usual
Yep love hearing him talk.
Aisian ThreeQUISIANS I think he's wrong here actually
Aisian ThreeQUISIANS I guess not...
Bledsoe, JR, George, Lebron, Love could have been such a nice lineup and really compete with the warriors. Too bad Lebron didn't commit to the cavs so the trade was nixed.
BWilly How could u play Love at the 5? He will get abused by real hardcore 7 footers.
I just meant versus the warriors to compete with their "small ball death lineup". During the regular season you'd play Love at the 4 and TT at the 5.
BWilly Even against the Warriors, Zaza and McGee are incredibly underrated rebounders, Love would get absolutely bullied if TT isnt helping him on the boards. Best thing for the Cavs would be to go IT - JR - LBJ - LOVE - TT. Then we have something to discuss.
+That Solo Kid bullied??? Ahahah TT helping on the boards. TT had só dee rebounds this finals that stephen curry outrebounded him. On the other hand Love in the first game got 21 rebounds
The warriors small ball death lineup is Curry-Klay-Iggy-Durant-Green so Zaza/McGee aren't important for this discussion.
Chris Boussard "The cavs could've gotten Paul George and Bledsoe" What I would've immediately wouldve done that trade
Vale or Kevin love and a pick for Anthony davis lmao 😂 but I want to keep the pick for Marvin 6-11 Kevin knox 6-9 or mpj 6-10 or trevon duval 6-2
Vale they fired the GM before it
Lebron had to commit long term for that to be done, he didn't so it was called off.
They didn't because the Pacers' GM backed out
This trade sets the Cavs up for a few options, primarily for LeBron staying.
If LeBron stays:
They can let Isaiah walk and free up big money for Paul George, CP3, Cousins, Westbrook or other notable players in the 2018 off-season. They can use the 2018 pick + a piece (like Love) to get another star.
If LeBron leaves:
They lose his contract burden, they can drop Isaiahs, use the 2018 pick or trade for pieces.
They opened themselves up from a prison cell with this trade
If Lebron leave, not one would want to come to Cleveland no matter how much cap space they have.
Loantastic They'd really only be freeing up money for one of LeBron's boys in reality. The Warriors are a huge obstacle to overcome for the next few years. If you're a free agent and you see GSW on the horizon, why choose Cleveland for basically the same result? Might be better to go to a city you enjoy which Cleveland is rarely on that list. Only if they show they can hang to some degree this year will FAs consider Cleveland if it looks like they could feasibly win.
That's why I said "use the 2018 pick"... I didn't say they can only trade it.. C'mon man.
LeBron would drop money for his boys at this stage.
Also, they'd sign one of the players from free-agency and go after another player with Love + the 2018 pick. That'd free up a 5-year contract in Kevin Love.
Cleveland got a bit stronger, especially in the long term. But I will say I wouldnt be suprised we get to early April/May and D. Rose is out, IT is banged up, and Love has some type of injury
Dub Nation gs wins no matter what sad but true
Vale
right lol
Dub Nation The only thing Love will injure is his pride bc he sucks, he doesn't play hard enough to get physically injured
It's a team that, if healthy, could cause problems. They're backcourt is one injury from being thrown out of balance. D(odgy knees) Rose, Isaiahs hip and JR had that thumb injury last year, probably nothing long term out of that tbh.
And then the perennial Lebron excuse train will choo choo through the internet
Rose broken, IT broken, Wade broken. Are you people serious?
Honestly I feel like LeBron's best option would be to go to Washington next year. Playing with a top 3 PG in the league with a great 2-way SG star in Wall and Beal would be enough honestly, but the likelihood of signing DeMarcus Cousins is very real, meaning Washington could have a lineup of Wall, Beal, James, Morris, Cousins. That's 2, maybe even 3 more rings for Bron with no worry of losing pre-finals
Not gonna happen.
Accurate, most likely. Doesn't mean it's not the best scenario.
cap space......
How are they gonna sign cousins and lebron?? please explain me
The Cavs are headed to the lottery when Lebron leaves and everybody will understand why Kyrie left.
Jordan First, it was Kyrie is leaving because LeBron is leaving. Now, LeBron is leaving because Kyrie is leaving? Who knows what LeBron is doing next year.
lmao they're headed to the lottery WITH Lebron, in 2018.
I would say play crowder in playoff crunch time because love can't play defense
Casey Crowley Crowder is trash. He is not the guy you want in during crunch time.
CelticsNation Crowder got d and he can hit the three. He brings toughness to Cleveland. Crowder gonna get his buckets, but he's bought there to play D and enforce
BukANicca So you would put Crowder in instead of Love when the game is on the line?
CelticsNation yup any day of the week. Gimme the the more mentally tough player. Love is soft
Casey Crowley oh it wont be crunchtime cause the warriors will be up by 20 so dont worry
Welcome back Broussard
Goatssard
Broussard should co-host.
I love how we are talking about the Cavs and Celtics like Golden State isn't going to sweep the Eastern Conference champion no matter who it is.
Cleveland should try to shop that lottery pick for a big like Marc Gasol or Rudy Gobert. Thompson is not the answer.
Chris is right, as usual
Dub Nation nope
Dub Nation no he wasn’t
Was watching a different video then saw Chris Broussard's name.... immediate click
Pg: IT4, D Rose
Sg: DWade*, Jr Smith, Shumpert
Sf: Lebron, Crowder, Korver
Pf: Love, Jefferson, Green
C: Thompson, Zizic (dunno how to spell it)
+ Brooklyn pick for another star
Pg: Steph Curry, Livingston
Sg: Klay, Swaggy P, McCaw
Sf: Durant, Iggy, Casspi
Pf: Draymond, Bell
C: Zaza, Mcgee, West, Jones
These teams are loaded compared to any other team in their conference if you think about it.
LongJohn Silverthorne you forgot Calderon for cavs lol
Keevon Jones He didn't create one. He just stated that these teams are stacked.
Keevon Jones stacked is stacked.
Durant is also injury prone. Steph had his.
Livingston???
If guys are healthy this is interesting
Keevon Jones GS is much as injury prone as the Cavs are, just that GS are always fortunate during the end of a playoff series....you know what I'm talking about, if not 2017 GS vs Spurs Eastern conference finals.
LongJohn Silverthorne warriors in 5
Is Colin continually pushing Lebron to LAL because Fox is pressuring him to or more because Colin lives in LA and wants it to happen?
It is nutty to think even if Lonzo wins ROY and Ingram is at 18 ppg next year that a 2 year older Lebron + PG + a 20 year old + a 19 year old have a chance to beat GS
Jason Janisewski I say it's both because a lot of Fox Sports programs are done in L.A.
And, Colin is pushing it because he lives in L.A. as well as he feels that LeBron needs to be in L.A. to be a mogul. And, almost everybody wants him in L.A. because they feel he'll be treated like a celebrity.
Jason Janisewski that agenda..
A 5'9 , 30 year old point guard coming off injury ? good luck trying to spin this story.
Lcivx Xllicl wtf is it with all these ppl saying IT is 30 ? He's 28 if he's 30 I guess kyrie is 27 since were adding 2 years to players age
Lcivx Xllicl a guy who averaged over 29 points per game and led his team to ecf alongside 3 and D Jae Crowder and likely top 5 pick traded for ball dominant point guard yet to win more than 30 games without Lebron.
Story spun
Lcivx Xllicl he's actually 28 and he's almost as good as Kyrie and Cavs also got Crowder and Brooklyn's pick
LongJohn Silverthorne ya the biggest thing people miss here is kyrie is very up and down and even though he averaged decent ppg in those first years the cavs barely ever won games and when they did it was against garbage competition
He's actually 28, and you can argue he's a more efficient scorer than kyrie. Especially when it comes to the 4th quarter. He led the entire league in 4th quarter scoring last year. Get your facts straight bub
Who is to say the Nets pick is top 5? In the weak East? If it wasn't for that pick, this is a win for Boston. Even then though, who is to say that pick is going to give you a Lebron or Irving as opposed to an Odom or Mayor or Russell. Shoot, Boston drafted Marcus Smart #6 and he is a bench guy on the very team whose fans are worried they traded a big pick.
Think of it this way, Celtics weren't going to sign IT next summer and they used the Nets pick to draft Irving. That's a win and that's how C fans should look at it.
Also wade is probably getting a buyout and could add to the cavs. With wade I think the Cavs make the year a lot more interesting
As a Celtics fan I was scared this was going to happen, don't know if I can be loyal to a team that was never loyal to its stars.
Also in crunch time its very possible either love or TT doesnt see the floor, especially against GSW
LeBron, Lonzo, Ingram, PG13 and Randle would be a FORCE with Clarkson coming off the bench. Staples Centre the place to be at Bron.
Good point by Colin pointing out lebron being torn about leaving Cleveland. What helps his legacy?
People seem to forget what wins championships. DEFENSE last ten years every NBA champion has been at least top 10 in defensive rating. Celtics got better offensively yes, but lost out incredibly defensively losing both crowder and Avery Bradley. Cavaliers got much better defensively and didn't lose much offensively. Cavs going back to the finals, no doubt.
jimenezjse lol the c’s have the best defense
jimenezjse LeBron is trash defensively
Lmmfao😂😂😂😂😂 my how things have changed.
There is no reason Cleveland should be losing championships. Almost 30 Allstars have gone to the West which cancels out all the great teams. They should not be tired in the East.
Derek Madison so you telling me LeBron and Cleveland should be well rested come June??
Chris is always right on the money with his analysis. He's the best of them all.
Do they know that the 18 year old could be the lightskin KD Porter Jr
D Wade to the cavs
did he say IT is an ISO specialist? hahhaha
Wtb chris broussard, Lombardi, Dan hanzus and Colleen Wolfe on a show
Cowherd is delusional. Lonzo and Ingram aren't Kobe and Shaq and even if they were they're no better than '97-'98 Kobe and Shaq, meaning they're not going to beat Golden State until Durant or Steph retires. Kobe and Shaq had to wait until Stockton and Malone were past their prime.
Blujonny11 cowherd only said the Lakers with Paul George and if Lonzo changes the culture and ingram is 18ppg they would be very interesting.
Cousins? That would be awesome! :)
Colin logic: lebron doesnt want to play with a 19 years old kid
Colin 5 minutes later: lebron will go to LA Lakers to play with a younger team with lonzo ball and brandon ingram (20 years old)
Why do people keep saying Isaiah's 30? Lol
The trade wasn't done for IT, it was done for Jae Crowder and the 2018 pick
No one is talking about the Crowder aspect of this trade. Crowder is a lowkey great player
Cameron Armstrong Music Broussard just mentioned how they have regained their "tough" identity with Crowder in the roaster
Isaiah is not going to be able to play with LBJ,LBJ has his own system
I don't get this whole "win the deal" thing. Teams make deals to win games, whether that's win now moves or win later moves.
It's all about making sure lebron has his super team to win championships. Warriors in 6!
Love, the 18 yo, nets pic for Carmelo Anthony
Don't trade love and the pick for boogie!!!!! Don't do it!!!!! Trade Tristan Thomson and the pick for Pozingus
I think both teams made their future better. Cleveland has a high draft pick to get a potential star player in the draft or a trade while we got a younger/better PG about to reach his prime and don't have to deal with paying IT $200 million.
Thompson, Shumpert and Frye for Cousins I would like.
Broussard smirk tells all.😎
Both teams got what they wanted, a team doesnt have to lose.
jay crowder is great for cleveland
Stay Smoove lol
If I'm Russell Westbrook I would strongly consider Cleveland this offseason...
Starborn Boxing w/Gee Westbrook will never leave okc
Anthony Arbour If he wasn't leaving he would've signed that extension. The money not changing...makes you wonder..
lmao that'd be lit af, don't get my hopes up like that.
Starborn Boxing w/Gee you go from okc to a boring city in cleveland.... he's not that type of player.
Fantastic trade for Celtics; 5 reasons. First, much as I loved Isaiah, the nightmare of losing him next season when the Celts didn't pay him at supermax is now a non-issue. Second, addition by subtraction: no way could the Celtics have given significant minutes to all the very good (i.e. non-superstar) players on their roster. Shaking loose three good players now will give what remains a chance to thrive. Third, superstars are like magnets, you need one to attract others: the Anthony Davis' and Porzingis' of the world might find playing with a spitfire like Isaiah intriguing, but an opportunity to play with a top six uber-talent like Kyrie ought to fill them with visions of dynasty. Last, Kyrie is now out from under Lebron's stifling shadow, and is the centerpiece for a very young team that should look to him for leadership... the Celtics could use such leadership, and the opportunity to lead seems to be exactly what Kyrie is seeking. Sounds like a match made in heaven to me. (Footnote: that said, I think this trade, from the Cav's perspective, is an absolute blockbuster! Kudos to their general manager for making lemonade out of lemons. He even got a draft pick that may translate to another superstar by way of insurance should Lebron leave!)
So everyone thinks that Lebron will go to LA, a team filled with 18-20 year old's, but he wouldn't want to get a 18 year old (Bagley/Porter) with more potential than all those dudes?
The goat
Great trade
The king of moving to other kingdoms.
GOAT.
Keep LeBron away from LA
Shumpert going to the end of the bench now
What happened to cavs getting melo?
Blah blah blah cavs still beating the Celtics the ECF
I wish Kyrie Irving gets an internet show where he helps repair cars hands on or do home improvements, hands on.
west is scary. we need a team in the north & south just to throw people off haha 😂
Carmelo in exchange with the 2018 first round pick...
Wilson Abalos eww no
Cavs in 5
Cowherd last week: Lebron is going to LA its a done deal.
Cowherd this week: Lebron didn't move back to Cleveland to leave again.
The ultimate reason Cleveland won the deal is because they got backed into a corner by the trade demand. Teams could have just waited till the trade deadline and forced them to give Kyrie up for peanuts... instead they get 2 legitimate starters, who will help against GS, and a top 10 pick, to protect the team if Lebron leaves.
I wish Russell would pull a kd and have cleveland use the pick and love or IT to get him
Long Term: Celtics
Short Term: Cavs
Unless that 2018 draft pick, and trading K. Love
If lebron somehow gets Westbrook or Wall. GAME F'N OVER
The pick, IT, and a role player for westbrook maybe?hmm
I think he should go to Houston to pair up with harden cp3 and melo
Chudi Blastoids James harden and melo don't care about defense and cp3 is too injury prone
Lebron is waiting for age, injury, and jealousy to weaken warriors
Cleveland in 5
If a supporting cast of Bledsoe, PG13 and Love aint good enough for LeBron, I doubt IT, Love and possibly Cousins (cuz I think they could ship TT and the pick for Cousins) could get him to stay.
It most interesting, right up until Colin started talking.
I'm ready for Lebron to go goat mode
I'm pretty sure LeBron said he'd rather lose early if he knows he'll definitely lose in the finals. So if he goes West, the East is going to be so weak that the West champions will for sure be the NBA champions.
The cavs won this trade they in a better position to beat warriors now cavs need to package love and the draft pick in a deal and id like to see em go after melo
Cousins don't want to be in New Orleans, Cavs got a first round pick to give them.....Cavs got rid of Irving salary, now has money to get D. Wade. This could be interesting.
They gotta stop disrespecting Isaiah he might be better than kyrie
Is the Bledsoe and George going to Cavs a real rumor?
maccabeach911 it was suppose to happen but lebron never signed a long term contract
People know they're money is on LeBron and not Kyrie!
spurs would have been ideal spot for kyrie.
He could go 2 Houston
Tristan Thompson , 0 points and 3 rebounds ?
Everybody keeps saying Lebrons going to the lakers and as a laker fan I see something else brewing. Especially with Jerry West on the clippers now. I think hes pulling or double move and heading to the clippers to win his own ring. And ultimately it would be since there's nobody that has won for the clippers. I just think the pieces are in place for him to come along with either Westbrook or PG13. Think about it they got DE Andre Jordan and Blake Griffin the pieces are there. I don't know I just feel that coming on if he does move.
gotta get Cousins.
If they get Boogie Cousins it's a wrap
Ingram PG13 n LBJ all play the same spot Colin
Would've taken PG and Bledsoe over this trade
to OKC???
Stephen Lylyk hmmm
come on, Lebron to OKC would be cinematic greatness
Trade pick for Melo, sign D Wade. Then you can beat the Warriors
Cleveland is gonna flip that pick into another star... the way they traded Wiggins for Love... Boston won't win the East... but the Cavs won't win the title...
Where could *LeBron* possibly go to have a chance at beating *Golden State?* other than *San Antonio?*
*Melo, CP3, Harden* in Houston in 2018
Paul Joseph nah
cleveland should now trade kevin love and the pick for carmelo or for cousins
If LeBron wants rings then his only option is Pop and the spurs.
Not a hater, I'm just gonna call it now, Irving will not play 82 games this season. He hasn't proven to be a healthy player without LBJ taking the majority of PT. I don't want an underwhelming ECF but I think that's the ways it's gonna go again...... I hope I'm wrong
Thomas, the nets 1st round pick, and another player for Russell Westbrook
Westbrook and lebron could never work together lol
Carlos Ramirez okc will never trade russ
Wrong wrong wrong
Lebron to 76ers him Embiid, Simmons and fultz with a solid bench and in the east easy