Giant's $2,500 Trance X Review: Loves Tech Trails | 2021 Pinkbike Field Trip

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  • @dannym1642
    @dannym1642 3 роки тому +243

    Would much rather watch middle of the line bike reviews like this one. rather than expensive bikes.

    • @matth8924
      @matth8924 3 роки тому +4

      Top of the range bikes have a much larger profit margin than mid-range bikes. Thats why they give all the press their expensive flagship bikes.

    • @caidenkhari5756
      @caidenkhari5756 3 роки тому

      @Judson Miles yup, been using Flixzone} for since december myself =)

    • @kylerobinson6102
      @kylerobinson6102 3 роки тому

      @@matth8924 They don't want you getting the 'best' bike without paying for it that's for sure.

    • @hindesite
      @hindesite 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, but I think your middle of the range might be different to mine - I've just bought one of these and I'd consider it to be top end. For me. Mid range - $4800...

    • @Briggsian
      @Briggsian 3 роки тому

      It's funny when they review the top dollar models, and then recommend the ones that are one or two steps down in price nearly every time; especially when the only difference is the addition of an AXS/X01 drivetrain and dropper

  • @ripapa6355
    @ripapa6355 3 роки тому +120

    You have to admire the absurdity of mountain bike culture when a $2500 bike is considered a budget bike.
    (I still think I might buy one though).

    • @ripapa6355
      @ripapa6355 3 роки тому +1

      Spoke too soon, not a flattering review.

    • @dylan-5287
      @dylan-5287 3 роки тому +9

      Just wait to see how high prices will be in the next few years, this will be nothing. You can't just have your government printing trillions of dollars and not expect massive inflation.

    • @ripapa6355
      @ripapa6355 3 роки тому +2

      @@dylan-5287 Not how it works, but I agree, prices will go up.

    • @dylan-5287
      @dylan-5287 3 роки тому +2

      @@ripapa6355 obviously that's an incredibly simplified version but thats pretty much what we've got here. Demand will decrease and price will continue to increase. I'd live to see prices come down to just a year ago but there's not a chance.

    • @kylecline3272
      @kylecline3272 3 роки тому +1

      @@dylan-5287 Because bike prices weren’t high before this year??

  • @andrewmancini2178
    @andrewmancini2178 3 роки тому +36

    I have had this bike since October and have put about 250 trail miles on it. I agree with a lot of things on this review. It is my first FS and it really is a beast for that. of course it does not compare to its $4000+ competitors but it is not meant to. I live in New England so we are all chunky tech and it rips this stuff up. I do have upgrade plans to move past the SX because it lacks there but right now I want to ride it till it breaks.
    The X2 is a great bike also.
    I highly recommend this bike to anyone who is looking in the $2500 range for a trail ripper, it may not be perfect but it will definitely give you a smile on your face

  • @AlinB1108
    @AlinB1108 3 роки тому +54

    Have the trance x 29 2, w the SLX, doesn’t suffer from any of those cons.

    • @jordanholmes4712
      @jordanholmes4712 3 роки тому +7

      Agreed...it feels a little more than a trail bike but Its still a fantastic bike. Especially for rough terrain, technical rocky climbs and its not a slow descender like they want you to think. That "very active" and forgiving suspension lets you go over some rough stuff without question.

    • @billrose2339
      @billrose2339 3 роки тому +6

      @@jordanholmes4712 100% correct. This bike is a great 'all arounder'. Climbs like a goat and the downhills are epic.

    • @spuddo123
      @spuddo123 3 роки тому +2

      @@jordanholmes4712 Completely agree, it almost feels like an enduro bike on the descents

  • @billrose2339
    @billrose2339 3 роки тому +10

    I have a Giant Trance X 29-2, which has some upgrades from the 29-3. I do agree that the suspension is 'active' and usually switch the DPS to the down position when climbing. Takes about .5 seconds to do that. It really helps, though this bike will never climb like a hardtail but the downhills on this bike are sick! Very stable and smooth in the open positions and it will keep you from breaking a collarbone, or worse. It is heavy but lighter wheels and tires would be a good start to approaching the 30lb/13.6kg mark (that's my eventual goal).

  • @chriskojali4527
    @chriskojali4527 3 роки тому +28

    My 29 X 3 is the quietest bike I’ve owned, no chain slap or noise from the dropper post. However I did install XTR gearing which is a big reason it’s so quiet.

    • @conman1395
      @conman1395 3 роки тому +1

      Putting XTR has nothing to do with it. Just the tension you set on the clutch. And the dropper post will shit the can eventually. But Giant warranties it without questions

    • @chriskojali4527
      @chriskojali4527 3 роки тому

      @@conman1395 Actually the Giant dropper post died and I didn’t bother with a warranty claim since I bought the bike used.

    • @andrewmancini2178
      @andrewmancini2178 3 роки тому

      Dropper shit after 250 miles getting warranty Tom , will use it till it no longer gets the warranty then onto a fox

    • @hamishman2196
      @hamishman2196 3 роки тому

      can you put a chain guide on it

  • @david029014
    @david029014 3 роки тому +23

    Still riding a 2011 carbon trance with 26" wheels! Still awesome

    • @usbsol
      @usbsol 3 роки тому

      Mine is 2013 29'er - pretty nice as well 🙂

    • @ghostridersnr
      @ghostridersnr 3 роки тому +2

      It’s the same old thing every year. They probably said the same for your bike in 2011

    • @david029014
      @david029014 3 роки тому +1

      @@ghostridersnr your right about that. I would like to get an update but it's hard, my 2011 trance advance with 26" wheels is so flickable and rides so good.

    • @ghostridersnr
      @ghostridersnr 3 роки тому +1

      @@david029014 speaking from experience one thing that is a big improvement from then to now is the 1x drivetrains and 12 speed cassette. But the older 3x set ups are still fine.

    • @david029014
      @david029014 3 роки тому +1

      @@ghostridersnr I had many bikes over the years, I had 29er I built myself, niner w.f.o. 9. Built like a tank I even had a big Manitou fork with hammerschmidt drive Train, top of the line everything. Honestly it was too much bike for me and my tight east coast trails. My old trance Is more fun, more nimble,, lighter to ride.

  • @sebastianfs3825
    @sebastianfs3825 3 роки тому +80

    1:38 sram has left the chat

    • @STruple12
      @STruple12 3 роки тому +18

      it looks to me more and more that SX exists only to pump the prices of real useable drivtrains like deore and nx/gx to the moon

    • @brickbros211
      @brickbros211 3 роки тому +4

      It looks like the clutch was turned off

    • @PurlCat
      @PurlCat 3 роки тому +19

      @@brickbros211 SRAM clutches can't be turned off.

    • @rosskline
      @rosskline 3 роки тому +2

      Sucker went FLYIN'! 😬

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 3 роки тому +4

      @@STruple12 I wouldn’t buy anything below (or above) GX from SRAMs lineup.
      The weird old hub standard of the low tiers throws me off.
      They should also make NX have the xd hubs and maybe let only SX continue with these decade old hubs..

  • @MrPijus123
    @MrPijus123 3 роки тому +8

    Remember to toss the sx shifter and derailleur in the trash during assembly and fit nx or deore straight away

  • @devinbyrnes8058
    @devinbyrnes8058 3 роки тому +14

    The next model up from this sounds great. They described my local trails perfectly with where it would shine. Definitely going on my short list.

    • @spuddo123
      @spuddo123 3 роки тому +4

      I got it just recently, rides like a dream. Would think about adding a volume spacer to the shock tho, and maybe uprading the wheels sometime in the future as they are pretty heavy (2.4kg for the pair). Other than that it's the perfect bike!

    • @devinbyrnes8058
      @devinbyrnes8058 3 роки тому

      @Concrete Head rhank you for bringing it to.my attention. The.modelmi would want is sold out, and I have no idea how much it would cost to ship to Canada. Fezzari wants 300$ Canadian extra for shipping just across a land border. This has to come from accross the pond.

    • @RD-qb7sd
      @RD-qb7sd 3 роки тому

      Also costs $3,550 now for the x2 29. I almost bought one but passed.

  • @safetymanjavier3297
    @safetymanjavier3297 2 роки тому +2

    I have the trance X, the biggest change that needed to happen was changing the rest derailleur. I bought an XX1 and it works fantastic. I’m very happy with the trance x so far.

  • @altabajacalifornia
    @altabajacalifornia 2 роки тому +22

    In all honesty this is a very odd review something’s going on here for sure and they did a bad job at hiding it. I own this bike (size large) and can say the bike has good pop to it, very composed downhill, and climbs great. Sure it’s noises but that’s a super easy fix. The bike rides great and if you are a new rider you will definitely not be disappointed.

    • @ryancurry5284
      @ryancurry5284 2 роки тому +8

      No other reviews have complained about the trance anywhere near as much as them, in almost every one of their reviews. Everyone else praises it. Odd for sure.

    • @awilds
      @awilds Рік тому +2

      I agree I have the trance 29 and for 2100.00 I could not be happier. It eats tech up...super plush it's like riding a Cadillac. I think they have to keep certain boutique brands happy...money...sponsorship...whatever..I appreciate them reviewing a large manufacturer like Giant at a more realistic price range for most people. However they reveal the paid for bias completely.

    • @gregmcmaster6050
      @gregmcmaster6050 Рік тому +1

      Thanks for pointing this out, I too thought it was odd. I’m looking at the trance x 1 with its higher end components and on initial watch this video almost put me off, but I know so many people who rave about this bike as an awesome all mountain at a great price point.

    • @lrh8197
      @lrh8197 Рік тому +1

      Giant probably doesn’t pay out as well 😂

  • @thesmalenguy9137
    @thesmalenguy9137 3 роки тому +4

    Ive had mine TX3 since march and i agree with the rear suspension. DPS is the worst shock ive ever owned, switched it out for a dpx2 factory after a few rides and maan, what a difference. Can honestly say that this bike is the best ive ever had! Also changed the Derailleur to gx(much needed), and maxed out volume spacers in both rear and fork suspension.
    With RS gold you can easily increase travel to 160mm by simply removing one spacer inside the fork.
    With these changes, the bike is way more playful and fast.
    I did not think i would keep the fork but it really is alright after some tweeks.

  • @dantom877
    @dantom877 3 роки тому +19

    I think you should have mentioned the spec upgrades of the Trance X 2, which actually is the "budget" Trance X, that comes with Fox 36, SLX, etc. as the price difference to the Marin is not too much. ;)

  • @Ghostrider304
    @Ghostrider304 3 роки тому +2

    My brother just bought this bike. I haven’t seen it yet, but he’s really enjoying it. Big upgrade for him and I think with fork swap down the road and a driveline upgrade it’ll be a fantastic bike for him.

    • @thesmalenguy9137
      @thesmalenguy9137 3 роки тому +1

      Honestly, he would be better of changing the rear shock before changing the fork. The fork is actually really capable, fox DPS on this bike is not.

  • @Technica_pro
    @Technica_pro Рік тому

    That's why I bought the same one and changed all weak points on it:
    - chainset from SX to GX
    - fork RS 35 Gold to Pike Ultimate 2023
    - Shimano to Code RSC
    - Added some tokens into Rear shock.
    Now it's became much nicer bike 😊

    • @Technica_pro
      @Technica_pro Рік тому

      @@Lenser need to check) will do it in 2 weeks, now on vacation dude)

  • @Mikesonbikes
    @Mikesonbikes 3 роки тому +20

    Hey pinkbike, wouldn't it make sense to try the bike in the high position if you dislike the suspension characteristics with it in the low position?

    • @mikee8244
      @mikee8244 2 роки тому +2

      Stop making sense 😃

    • @That.Guy.
      @That.Guy. Рік тому

      The high position is much better in technical stuff.

  • @bbuisine
    @bbuisine 3 роки тому +14

    Why didn’t you talk about the trance X 29 2 with Shimano SLX?

  • @TheChillBison
    @TheChillBison 3 роки тому +39

    Seems like it could almost be a win, but at this price point, if I see SX, I move along. That derailleur was bouncing around so much it was comical. Shimano won with their budget drivetrains, and SX (maybe NX too) is just like "do whatever you have to to make it cheap" and it shows.

    • @dylan-5287
      @dylan-5287 3 роки тому +1

      I like sram shifting more than shimano. Feels more natural with the thumb for both directions and shifts faster and smoother. Interesting how people favor different styles. I usually look for sram shifting and shimano brakes.

    • @liammatthews2242
      @liammatthews2242 3 роки тому +5

      @@dylan-5287 sure the high end 12 speed stuff from sram is fine but sx is pure shit.

    • @SH-ig6rd
      @SH-ig6rd 3 роки тому

      Just FYI, I changed the shifter and derailleur for slx and it worked just fine. I sold the SX stuff for what I paid for slx too. Effectively a free upgrade. I don't know what the hyperglide cassette/chain stuff feels like but my set-up, bar being a bit clunky, works great

    • @alexanderprain4259
      @alexanderprain4259 3 роки тому

      My nx drivetrain from 3 years ago is still Crisp, doesn't feel cheap

    • @01nmuskier
      @01nmuskier 3 роки тому +1

      I've been saying this for a couple years. Sram entry level is CRAP!
      Shimano LX is a bit softer and heavier than XT, but it works! Reliably!
      My Rockey Mountain with SX couldn't even be tuned from the shop floor. Had to upgrade to GX within 3 months.

  • @noelwiebe1996
    @noelwiebe1996 3 роки тому +7

    That should be my bike I ordered it in December. I’m half way there

  • @jeffpratt3014
    @jeffpratt3014 3 роки тому +5

    I have trance x 2 and my bike is silent. Love it.

  • @SH-ig6rd
    @SH-ig6rd 3 роки тому +24

    If my bike made funny noises I'd spend a couple hours tinkering to figure out the problem and fix it, not just write it off as a noisey bike. I love my trance X 3.

    • @MrCharlesPoulin
      @MrCharlesPoulin 3 роки тому +1

      Same here but it's a thing to know before you buy a bike. Not everyone is able to work on their bike and will bring it to the local shop ($$). Bottom line, it's not a deal breaker but a good thing to know when you buy a new bike.

    • @joshh3824
      @joshh3824 3 роки тому +2

      I have a trance x and it doesn't make any noise for me

    • @dylan-5287
      @dylan-5287 3 роки тому +3

      @@MrCharlesPoulin that really just comes down to the shop that sold it to you. Giant just ships them off in the box then the shop builds it up for the customer. Most people are saying they haven't dealt with noise on this exact same bike. Whoever build the bike neglected grease somewhere. It's also an incredibly easy job to make sure everything is greased, you really don't need a shop for that. But they should do it in the first place.

  • @Larpy1933
    @Larpy1933 3 роки тому +1

    Hosts: five stars. Videography: right there with the hosts. Thanks. Keep up the good work.
    Request: 5 minute separate video (narrated by our hosts) of the trails you tested on and where they are: lots of work yes. Much appreciated if you can do it. Even 2 minutes!

  • @eliotcrowe7884
    @eliotcrowe7884 3 роки тому +11

    I'm loving these value bike reviews! A suggestion for a future video: test out some bikes like these with some intermediate riders who HAVEN'T ridden high-spec expensive bikes. I really like your reviews, but it would also be nice to hear what a rider like me would say about these value bikes. I'm particularly interested in the difference between different price points for the same bike (e.g., Siskiu T7 vs T8, or the 3 levels of the Rift Zone)

    • @justsayin3600
      @justsayin3600 3 роки тому

      Great idea. If I was doing a review I would be like, "I rode it hard and didn't crash. It was awesome!"
      It would be pretty cool to do this with kids full suspension bikes in 26" & 20". too

  • @MrMuggsly
    @MrMuggsly 3 роки тому +21

    That huck to flat looked like it hurt!

    • @STruple12
      @STruple12 3 роки тому +10

      It looked like the SX deraileur is going to fall off lol

    • @fiatfixie4344
      @fiatfixie4344 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah it did. That rear suspension didn't seem to handle it too well. I bet that derailleur was part of the noise issue also. Looks like there were set up issues on this bike.

  • @specagent999
    @specagent999 3 роки тому +2

    I've been riding a Trance X 29er 1 for a few years and it is like a luxury sport sedan: Not a true sports car and not a true luxury car, it's somewhere in between.

  • @01nmuskier
    @01nmuskier 3 роки тому +3

    The carbon version is
    A. Quiet. Really quiet.
    B. More lively, but not as much as the 27.5
    I ride in the high position. Climbing isn't punchy like the 27.5, but stable and tons of traction up chunk. This bike loves chunk. And is fast AF downhill.

  • @iwontreplybacklol7481
    @iwontreplybacklol7481 Рік тому

    That rea derailleur getting railed on that drop to flat and the chain smacking the ground was hilarious to me. Im easily entertained I guess hahaha

  • @McSchwabl
    @McSchwabl 3 роки тому +4

    Why is anybody complaining about the climb switch. Its there for a reason

    • @chriskojali4527
      @chriskojali4527 3 роки тому

      A remote lockout would be preferable, not available on X 3.

    • @John-shreds
      @John-shreds 3 роки тому

      I agree. I was kind of confused.

    • @McSchwabl
      @McSchwabl 3 роки тому +2

      @@chriskojali4527 I dont think that you need it on a trail bike. On a xc bike its a diffrent story

  • @sidgreen3576
    @sidgreen3576 3 роки тому +5

    Will you guys do a review on the 2021 stumpjumper comp alloy?

  • @jakeestrada1239
    @jakeestrada1239 Рік тому

    Bought mine brand new 2021 Trance X 29r, Owned for 5 months as of today. Had nothing but problems. Frame was completely replaced by Giant under warranty in 1 month of owning cause a weird crazy noise, and the Sram shifting is tremendously horrible. My rear brakes completely went out causing me to crash hardcore and end up in hospital. The guys at Dons Bicycles in Redlands CA where purchased felt so bad and were baffled of all these failures of brand new bike. They hooked me up with upgraded slx Shimano brakes... Than my dropper seat completely failed while on long ride. I literally got of the bike and walked it back home so disappointed. This is my third Giant and love how this bike rides climbs etc.... but highly recommend spending extra money for another bike for future buyers.

  • @roughandreadyrider2313
    @roughandreadyrider2313 3 роки тому +15

    I would like to see a stumpjumper review. The stumpy alloy looks like a good budget bike.

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 3 роки тому +1

      Is the alloy version really affordable?
      I was so alienated by the price policy of Specialized, that I stopped looking into their offerings.
      Did they really did the unthinkable and put an affordable bike in their lineup of 14.000$ bikes?

    • @lucasbright3331
      @lucasbright3331 3 роки тому

      @@rolux4853 look at their website

    • @HarryKuloh
      @HarryKuloh 3 роки тому +1

      @@rolux4853 they don't have 14k bikes. They have a 14k bike.

  • @tehalexy
    @tehalexy 3 роки тому +2

    recieved my trance X 3 and there is 0 rattling or any other cons you mentioned.
    one thing is a lil bit annoying, shifting is weird with this shifter. and it shifts soooo delayed ... but maybe i need to set it up better.
    but overall, the bike is damn fun

  • @jordanholmes4712
    @jordanholmes4712 3 роки тому +2

    Great bike and they are very accurate stating how active the suspension is. However they fail to say "active" in a good way. Its almost like a short travel enduro! It feels like they wanted to say great things about it but giant didnt want to pay their way to the top.

    • @yo_marc
      @yo_marc Рік тому

      I barely saw the suspension moving during that segment.

  • @craigmckinnon242
    @craigmckinnon242 3 роки тому

    If you don't like the shifting just replace the shifter and rear derailleur with Shimano Dior or SLX it'll all work. You could replace the internals on the fork and it'll work a whole lot better too.

  • @Redneck_Engineer
    @Redneck_Engineer 3 роки тому +12

    Mike: "Alright Sarah" "ok Sarah" Sarah Sarah Sarah Sarah. I don't think every segment needs the introduction.

  • @spuddo123
    @spuddo123 3 роки тому +3

    The Trance X 29 2 model fixes the noise problems, but I'm still playing around with the shock to find the perfect settings for it

    • @andyboy6835
      @andyboy6835 3 роки тому +1

      Yea i have the X 29 2 and i never notice noise on the trails

  • @reallybigphilly
    @reallybigphilly Рік тому

    I have owned this bike for a little over a year now (size XL) and logged about 1000 miles on it. I recognize a lack of efficiency (to be fair, my point of comparison is an XC hardtail), but the compliance and traction have helped me tremendously on more technical climbs. An oval chainring made a big difference here too, causing me to match and even beat my climbing time with that of the XC hardtail on rougher climbs.
    I do not recognize the noise issue, but maybe I got lucky.
    I did upgrade the drivetrain to GX after an unfortunate mishap bent the stock derailleur, and upgraded to carbon bars with a bit more rise to accommodate my height, and some carbon cranks as well as installing a lighter cassette, as this bike is a bit overweight off the shelf. Also I swapped the tyres for a Rekon / Ikon combo since I do not ride particularly rough terrain (big roots, but no sharp rocks).
    I used this bike in a 24 hour relay marathon and the plushy suspension helped a lot in warding off the fatigue.
    Concerning firming up the suspension, I am considering a volume spacer in the rear shock.

    • @reallybigphilly
      @reallybigphilly Рік тому

      @@Lenser haven't weighed it exactly, but with the carbon parts and lighter drivetrain I've saved about 550 grams relative to the stock weight. This is not counting the tyres.

  • @leader0419
    @leader0419 3 роки тому +7

    Replace the rockshox 35 and sx eagle, it will be totally different.(I also have one....)

    • @fazza2104
      @fazza2104 3 роки тому

      Yeah they are pretty shit

    • @KYMXRacer
      @KYMXRacer 3 роки тому

      What do you suggest for a fork upgrade?

    • @ianfunk2387
      @ianfunk2387 3 роки тому +2

      I bought the 3 and negotiated to have my LBS upgrade the shifter/derailleur to GX and the fork to a Yari. They were awesome and gave me near full value for the stock components and did the work as a part of the deal. Very quiet, handles great and is likely as good or better than the 2 for less dough.

    • @leader0419
      @leader0419 3 роки тому +1

      @@ianfunk2387 yas,I changed to the GX.

    • @leader0419
      @leader0419 3 роки тому

      @@KYMXRacer I order the Fox 36,but they don't know when it will arrive

  • @keton9685
    @keton9685 3 роки тому +12

    I have a normal trance the one with 27.5 and I love it

    • @CoderShare
      @CoderShare 3 роки тому +2

      Had the 2020 27.5, swapped it for a 29er enduro after 8 months.

    • @benjamingarrison4362
      @benjamingarrison4362 3 роки тому +3

      I have a 2020 Trance Advanced Pro 29 and it's one of the best bikes I've ever had.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 3 роки тому +2

      I had a 2020 27.5 Trance, was ok, but too small for me as I was between frame sizes and had to size down, now on a Ripmo AF which is way better.

  • @burddog0792
    @burddog0792 3 роки тому +1

    Weird that the regular Trance 29 is $2,400 USD and gets you a Z2 and Deore 12 Spd. 10-51T. Anticipating a new model maybe this August. Of course you won't be able to buy either. Hopefully next year spec of this bike can get a Z1 and Deore.

  • @Rakeshlamaoffical
    @Rakeshlamaoffical Рік тому

    Im planning to buy this bike.. should I go for it ?? Experience share your opinion plz ..

  • @driver_18
    @driver_18 3 роки тому +4

    Upgrade the suspension front and rear and it should be good

    • @skullsroad3642
      @skullsroad3642 3 роки тому +1

      Suspension is the best part about this bike. The brake pads, rotors, and drivetrain are the weak spots.

    • @dylan-5287
      @dylan-5287 3 роки тому +1

      That 35 gold and performance dpx definitely need to go. So many better options.

    • @driver_18
      @driver_18 3 роки тому

      @@skullsroad3642 actually I'd change those components too. A GX or SLX would be perfect on it. XT brakes as well

  • @Mykel2617
    @Mykel2617 3 роки тому +8

    I got trance x 2 2021 and it is awesome. I Would totally recommend to review that one.

    • @evantetford5148
      @evantetford5148 3 роки тому

      Waiting for mine to come in, July is the eta. How sick is this bike? I’m getting real giddy to ride it!!

    • @andyboy6835
      @andyboy6835 3 роки тому +3

      Got mine in november, she shreds

  • @muscles3929
    @muscles3929 3 роки тому +2

    I have this bike and the only noise mine makes is the rear hub at coast and the tires rolling on dirt.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I was surprised when they said theirs was noisy. The Trance I had was very quiet, the Ripmo I have now is noisier with its infamous cable rattle.

  • @sonofawil
    @sonofawil 3 роки тому +1

    Also, the SX derailleur has a plastic body that can fail catastrophically. After only 5 rides, mine broke off the mounting stud and embedded itself in my rear wheel causing a skid. I'm very disappointed in SRAM. This is dangerous.

  • @kijaron4320
    @kijaron4320 3 роки тому +4

    Would you make a YT Jeffsy Core 2 27,5 rewiew Please ?

  • @dylan-5287
    @dylan-5287 3 роки тому +1

    Such a good intro for these videos, always enjoy watching that.

  • @JFTM_
    @JFTM_ 3 роки тому

    Your comments about the suspension remind me of my 2017 Stumpjumper. Less nimble climber than my race-spec 2021 Xl Sight

  • @sonofawil
    @sonofawil 3 роки тому

    Giant does a good job of explaining how their Maestro suspension avoids robbing you of pedaling power from a pedal bob perspective and it makes sense in a purely kinematic way, but what I'm getting here is that the "fully active" aspect of their suspension (which they also push in their marketing) is absorbing too much on the climbs when you just want your back wheel to pop over stuff. Is that it?
    ...by the way, this is the review I've been looking for, a basic performance assessment of the entry/mid model on what matters to entry/mid riders. Thanks.

  • @junglist_matty
    @junglist_matty Рік тому

    I just ordered a trance 29 x 1 (panther green) for a bargain sale price of £1600.... Mods: first off replace those terrible tektro 4pots for some XTR 4pots for ultimate braking performance. Next is that cheapo praxis chainset, again XTR boost cranks with an oval chainring (works), XTR rear mech, shifter & cassette. And finally a set of DT XM1700 wheels.... Want to ride it to see if a 35mm stem is better than the stock 50. Looking forward to taking it out on a spin once i finish fitting the mods!

    • @LutzScharf
      @LutzScharf 10 місяців тому

      So why didnt you order a higher model ?

    • @junglist_matty
      @junglist_matty 10 місяців тому

      @@LutzScharf because the higher model works out a lot more expensive overall, and still doesn't have as good a spec.

  • @ronhau1542
    @ronhau1542 3 роки тому +2

    I’ve only been riding a little over a year so admittedly I don’t much.... I watched two other reviews on this bike but the more expensive model. Trance advanced one but it has the same rear shock and same geo. One review actually compared the bike to the bike Mike Leavie did the Ibis Ripple and the guy said it climbed as good as that bike. The other review also said something close to the same.
    My question is it to guys with different opinions or are the shocks tuned differently or what???

  • @rodrigopages1054
    @rodrigopages1054 3 роки тому

    That rear derailleur on the huck to flat was scary af

  • @rolux4853
    @rolux4853 3 роки тому +2

    This video is extra bad with the volume difference between the music and the presenters speaking, especially when Sarah talks..
    Otherwise an amazing video!

  • @mrvwbug4423
    @mrvwbug4423 3 роки тому +2

    The 2 build is definitely a big improvement in all areas aside from the rear shock, but that DPS probably just needs some volume spacers. That RS 35 Gold fork is basically impossible to get dialed as is typical with motion control forks, you either get resonable mid-stroke and god awful chatter off the top, or tolerable off the top and non-existent mid-stroke.

  • @manuelfredpangco5744
    @manuelfredpangco5744 3 роки тому +1

    For the same price I could get a Scott genius. Thank god it doesn’t have an sx drivetrain. Is the nx drivetrain any good? The main turn off for the giant trance x 29 3 was the sx drivetrain. Good thing my local bike shop has both brands. I am save up for the Scott genius. The only thing that I would change about the Genius is the sx cranks and the sx shifter.

  • @imnothere2350
    @imnothere2350 3 роки тому +1

    I wonder if you add some air to the suspension then it would be a bit more lively

    • @01nmuskier
      @01nmuskier 3 роки тому

      They said they added air to get 25% sag. Giant has been recommending 25% on the Trance for years. This one's no different.

  • @tonyparkin3379
    @tonyparkin3379 3 роки тому +2

    Giant laughed me out of their shop 6 months ago, when asked about availability. What's changed?

    • @noelwiebe1996
      @noelwiebe1996 3 роки тому

      Well I ordered mine in December. That told me I might get it by Christmas

    • @chrislooysen
      @chrislooysen 3 роки тому

      I ordered mine late December 2020 and got it mid March. I love in CA and ordered from a local Giant dealer.

    • @Neolordzeal
      @Neolordzeal 3 роки тому

      I ordered mine in late Dec and it was in pick last monday. Any day now.

  • @Bohvey
    @Bohvey 3 роки тому

    Dang, no threaded BB... I was thinking about getting one of these for my wife. Price point is excellent for what looks to be a really nice bike though.

  • @ftrujillomunizaga
    @ftrujillomunizaga 3 роки тому +3

    1:39 that poor derrailure though

  • @joshbarton4373
    @joshbarton4373 3 роки тому +1

    Great vids. I would love to see a diamondback catch 2 review. Tbh cause I’m getting the bike🤣 and there is really no videos on UA-cam about it

  • @joelod.4763
    @joelod.4763 3 роки тому

    I’ve had the sram sx shifter/ long cheap break lever and I put the brake on then slid on the shifter.

  • @vrwgq3q
    @vrwgq3q 3 роки тому +1

    Disappointing that a longer travel maestro is seemingly a worst platform. The 115 in the current trance was such a good rear platform

    • @martinhorka8182
      @martinhorka8182 3 роки тому

      Yeah I have a Trance 29 2021 and the rear 115mm work flawlessly. I run around 27% sag on shock and it just eats everything during my type of descends and during uphills it stays efficient while tracking the ground like a charm. Very happy with the bike but I cant wait to take it to a bikepark to test those 115mm :).

    • @John-shreds
      @John-shreds 3 роки тому +1

      I literally just bought a 2021 Trance X 2 yesterday. I was really hoping it would have been better.

    • @martinhorka8182
      @martinhorka8182 3 роки тому +6

      @@John-shreds Dont worry dude. Dont let the review change the feeleing that you will have on your new bike. Once you find your favourite settings and find the limits of the bike (or you :) ), then ask yourself if you are satisfied. Dont just think about that maestro sus which they said its not perfect. Enjoy your trails and maybe it will be perfect for you. Cheers and happy riding :)

    • @John-shreds
      @John-shreds 3 роки тому +1

      @@martinhorka8182 Thx mate :)

    • @John-shreds
      @John-shreds 3 роки тому +3

      @@martinhorka8182 I got this bike as a gift for my girlfreind. She demo'd a liv 120 rear 140 front travel and really liked it. But I see in 5 months or so her skills moving beyond the short travel. So I got this one for future proof. She has a decent hardtail from 2012.
      I lucked out 2 1/2 years ago and got a brand new carbon 2018 kona process 153 for $2700 bucks. My bike is sooooo good. Now adays its so hard to find a bike anywhere, even when you want to pay brand msrp pricing.

  • @LajRa5
    @LajRa5 2 роки тому

    I have a trance advanced pro 3, not the X. I would avoid the sram SX if possible. Mine came with sx and after a year I had to replace the shifter and the chain. The cassete had some issues that I fixed so it's not a huge problem but the crank and derailleur are still going strong. I would at least go with NX if you can afford it, or buy the sx knowing that you're going to have to replace stuff after a while

  • @mattcampanale2594
    @mattcampanale2594 2 роки тому

    would this hold up well at a bike park? curious to see or if i should look for something with a bit more travel if im gonna take it to the park.

  • @mr_mean3r
    @mr_mean3r Рік тому

    Does running less sag result in softer suspension? Surely if you wanted to make it feel firmer you would want less air and more sag?

  • @ryguy92
    @ryguy92 2 роки тому

    I was wondering if the bike was an active peddler because the rail has a lot of bumps? He said he was watching the shock moving up and down, would the bike still have peddle bob on flat ground?

  • @LaurentiusTriarius
    @LaurentiusTriarius 2 місяці тому

    I have this bike since 2023 I bought it (part) because it was active while climbing this thing can climb anything even with the coil shock that's currently on.
    Quality out of the box was terrible, I pretty much bought a frameset at this point since stock components aren't worth peanuts 🥜
    Giant quality of frames, okay, yes bearings last forever but all the rest is either heavy and cheap or just cheap. Dealer network (for warranty claims) is a nightmare if you're not a sucker...

  • @noah_m
    @noah_m 3 роки тому +4

    There’s this guy in my city that sells giant bikes for cost price, idk why. But my friend bought one from him, a giant trance 1, for $2500, the same price as this. It has fox performance elite suspension, sram GX and carbon wheels

    • @takeit1229
      @takeit1229 3 роки тому +10

      So you live in the North Pole and this guy has a big white beard? Loves the color red?

    • @fazza2104
      @fazza2104 3 роки тому +2

      I doubt you could get carbon wheels for that, unless it was a second hand bike, carbon wheels start at about $1300

    • @masonpassey5470
      @masonpassey5470 3 роки тому +4

      He is most likely laundering money

    • @noah_m
      @noah_m 3 роки тому

      @@fazza2104 he did though

    • @noah_m
      @noah_m 3 роки тому

      @@takeit1229 nope he actually has no facial hair and is 14

  • @jzgibsneanzeije5530
    @jzgibsneanzeije5530 3 роки тому +3

    1:39 the downside of havin an sx derrreuier
    sry idk how to spell dereuilier

  • @martinhorka8182
    @martinhorka8182 3 роки тому +2

    1:39 That rear mech nearly did a full loop during the huck to flat

  • @samsterthegamer8521
    @samsterthegamer8521 3 роки тому +3

    I have the Trance X 2 model

  • @ezekielojinaga856
    @ezekielojinaga856 3 роки тому +2

    My dad got this bike on Saturday from a shipment that came in the same day

  • @thesupernad
    @thesupernad 3 роки тому +1

    Where I live, Manitoba, I'm finding it hard to decide between low and high on my advanced pro 1. Low setting is very low slung and makes the bike pretty poppy, but we have punch climbs and do just as much climbing as descending. This makes the high setting much more efficient. I also find the suspension very active. I normally run 30% sag in the rear, with this bike running 25% still has a lot of bobbing. Trail switch is needed.

    • @thesupernad
      @thesupernad 3 роки тому

      Worth noting Giant recommends 25%

    • @willineufeld7162
      @willineufeld7162 3 роки тому

      Where do you ride in manitoba? I live here as well and I'm looking for some good trails.

    • @thesupernad
      @thesupernad 3 роки тому

      @@willineufeld7162 Brandon hills, Dauphin east Gate, riding mountain, assessippi bike park

    • @willineufeld7162
      @willineufeld7162 3 роки тому

      @@thesupernad thanks for the reply, I'll definitely check those out.

  • @MagnumoftheMountains
    @MagnumoftheMountains 3 роки тому +2

    We have to give a shoutout to Sarah's riding ability, but also the cinematographers. Pink Bike has in my mind the BEST overall mtb reviews on UA-cam. They deserve far more subscribers.

  • @bigboibeluga5033
    @bigboibeluga5033 Рік тому

    I think giant needs to change or move in from maestro. I have ridden an anthem with maestro and even 90mm of travel was really active and I was constantly reaching for the lockout

  • @robertrenfrow8621
    @robertrenfrow8621 Рік тому

    Can you lock out the front shocks and are they adjustable?

  • @virdi1992
    @virdi1992 3 роки тому

    I got the trance 2 (grey) it’s pretty sick. First
    Mtb. I’d defiantly get a YT next

  • @mcdonaldslover52
    @mcdonaldslover52 3 роки тому +1

    In 2019 you could buy a trance 2 for the same price as this which came with SLX & fox. SX is horrible

  • @shortstubbysmartkid1953
    @shortstubbysmartkid1953 9 місяців тому

    1:40 is it just me or is the clutch not engaged on the derailleur?

  • @John-shreds
    @John-shreds 3 роки тому +2

    Aww. I thought it would have been better :(. I literally just bought a 2021 trance x 2 yesterday for $3000.

    • @ichiroku
      @ichiroku 3 роки тому +2

      this is just a very short review--there's so much more to any bike. shred it!!

    • @zacmiller5333
      @zacmiller5333 3 роки тому

      My mates got one, upgrade the drive train and its fine

    • @John-shreds
      @John-shreds 3 роки тому +1

      @@ichiroku I saw other reviews and they literaly said the complete opposite of what they said in this video. So maybe your right. Maybe their shock wasnt set up right. To fix the mushy suspension just play around with volume reducers.
      Im not a fan boy, and I love criticism/feedback, but they distroyed this bike. The bike that I got has a better fork, breaks, drivetrain. But still good god. I really hope it isnt this bad. They had nothing under Pro's.

    • @ichiroku
      @ichiroku 3 роки тому +1

      @@John-shreds i highly highly doubt that it's a "bad" bike. you'll be totally fine. gotta keep in mind that they're comparing it to a few similar bikes and have to highlight the fine differences between them. that doesn't mean that their criticisms are invalid by any means, they're also not saying the suspension is so active that it RUINS the ride either--just that they wish it wasn't as active as it is. they also imply that active isn't necessarily a bad thing. lasty, remember that there's a special case in this review where they compare it to a super expensive model of the trance that they rode relatively recently.

    • @andyboy6835
      @andyboy6835 3 роки тому +1

      I have the trance x 29 2 and its way different than what they’re saying in this review. No noise issues or shifting problems. The bike shreds, you’ll love it man

  • @noelwiebe1996
    @noelwiebe1996 3 роки тому

    Aha I’m so close to getting mine waited 12 months only a few weeks to go

  • @hgpwns
    @hgpwns 3 роки тому

    Which is better this or the Polygon N9? Thanks

  • @tywitt3351
    @tywitt3351 3 роки тому

    Would like to see an aluminum stumpjumper here.

  • @echambee
    @echambee 3 роки тому +1

    Sarah, my wife wants review of women specific bikes like Liv and Juliana and compare them to regular conterparts. Thanks.

    • @01nmuskier
      @01nmuskier 3 роки тому

      Liv rides very much like the Giant counterpart model. But you're right. There should be model specific reviews written by the riders those models are intended for.

  • @sneakyray9160
    @sneakyray9160 3 роки тому

    Can you put a bigger front sprocket?🤔

  • @antenikolic9049
    @antenikolic9049 3 роки тому +1

    Guys can i extend my giant trance 3 travel by 20mm so i can have travel just like trance x

  • @evantetford5148
    @evantetford5148 3 роки тому +4

    I feel like the Trace X 29 2 (that was a mouthful) would make more sense to review against the Polygon and Marin, that were also selected. This bike barely matches the same spec as those other two bikes. Trace X 2, definitely worth spending more money on, over its little brother...

    • @RD-qb7sd
      @RD-qb7sd 3 роки тому

      It wouldn't be bikes under $3k then. The x2 29 is $3,500. So $1k more than the polygon.

  • @player1tv
    @player1tv 3 роки тому

    What happened to XT Spec Aluminium Bikes. The majority of people are in that price range.

  • @david029014
    @david029014 3 роки тому

    Whats the weight difference between, this and carbon trance in size large

  • @anthonyptaszek8751
    @anthonyptaszek8751 3 роки тому

    I have a 2019 Trance 3, even with max PSI in the shock and on the fastest rebound I bottom out every ride..

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 3 роки тому +1

      I had the same issue with the Trance I had, small shock can't take big hits, even with maxed volume spacers.

    • @clmfilms8103
      @clmfilms8103 3 роки тому

      I'm looking at a kona process 134 or a giant trance 29 3, would you not recommend the giant? The kona on the other hand is supposed to be great on the downhill and soak up hits well...

    • @anthonyptaszek8751
      @anthonyptaszek8751 3 роки тому

      @@clmfilms8103 I have upgraded things like grips, saddle, etc because the ones that come with the bike arent that great but the only real issue I have with the bike is how soft the rear shock is. (RockShox Debonaire Deluxe) I run it on max psi (325psi) and I will bottom out the shock without hitting any jumps or drops. On downhills its decent but you lose a lot of power on sprints and climbs it seems to me

    • @stephangauthier911
      @stephangauthier911 Рік тому

      Of course you're gonna run thru it pretty fast if it's in the fastest position. Dial it down a little and you'll get support.

  • @yo_marc
    @yo_marc Рік тому

    I would have gone straight for the high setting out here on the east coast ;)

  • @500revs
    @500revs 2 роки тому

    which one : x 29 3 or stumpjumper alloy?

  • @jorgellano3045
    @jorgellano3045 3 роки тому

    Could you guys do a review on Giant’s Talon 1 2021

  • @mattos3751
    @mattos3751 3 роки тому +1

    Can you Review the Canyon Torque AL 5.0 for 2,5 k

  • @letsgo_inc
    @letsgo_inc 3 роки тому +1

    Polygon spec makes this a no brainer

    • @dylan-5287
      @dylan-5287 3 роки тому

      I'd definitely take the trance over the polygon. Maestro twin link vs single pivot, that alone is a deal breaker.

    • @clmfilms8103
      @clmfilms8103 3 роки тому +1

      @@dylan-5287 single pivot isn't always bad; trek, kona, evil, and marin all use a type of linkage-driven single pivot suspension

    • @dylan-5287
      @dylan-5287 3 роки тому

      @@clmfilms8103 I'd argue trek and evil are different. Trek uses a pivot at the axle, along with another brand, think it's orbea. That totally changes it up and makes it technically 4 bar. And of course evil has that crazy DW delta suspension. Not sure of the details but I know it's supposed to be really efficient unlike normal single pivots. And I love Marin, started with them. Just saying Polygon is mass producing bikes when nothing else is available. Why would only they get frames compared to so many bigger companies? They're producing cheaper bikes and using a simple suspension design. Not bad bikes, I've tried their siskiou, but compared to a trance which I've also tried. Trance any day. Just depends on what's available and how fucked the market is in the future.

    • @clmfilms8103
      @clmfilms8103 3 роки тому +1

      @@dylan-5287 trek and evil both have the tire directly attached to the swing arm making it single pivot. Unlike brands like norco which have a pivot on the chainstay before the rear tire which alters the wheel path. Trek is definitely a bit different due to the pivot on the axle, but im pretty sure it still counts as a type of single pivot. Currently looking at getting a trance or a kona at the moment

    • @dylan-5287
      @dylan-5287 3 роки тому

      @@clmfilms8103 that axle pivot does give trek more control over suspension kinematics compared to traditional single pivot, their whole "anti brake jack design". The trance is a sick bike! Giants maestro system is cool, kinda similar to Santa Cruz but co rotating links vs counter rotating. Everything is a trade off and most bikes are pretty good these days. Enjoy the new bike!

  • @cameronsmith3098
    @cameronsmith3098 2 роки тому

    I just bought this bike today fresh out of the shop. I notice when i go to swiftly pull up the handlebars, and the fork extends fully it makes a air sucking noise. The shop mechanic confirmed it was just air sucking unto the fork. Anyone else familiar with that noise?

    • @SH-ig6rd
      @SH-ig6rd 2 роки тому

      It's a noisey fork but nothing to worry about. You need to run it well below the recommended air pressure too. It gets a bad wrap but it's fine

  • @JohnQTubes
    @JohnQTubes 3 роки тому

    Anybody has any thoughts about this 2021 Trance X 29 3 ($2500 base model) vs. the 2021 Stumpjumper Alloy ($2500 base model)? Both seem to have similar modern slackened geometry but which one would you prefer for All-Mountain trails?

  • @KYMXRacer
    @KYMXRacer 3 роки тому +1

    I have this bike and enjoy it. I upgraded to a NX cassette with GX derailleur and shifter.
    I was really wanting to get the X 2 model for the Fox forks. I may get a set of Fox 36’s if I can find a decent deal.

    • @ianfunk2387
      @ianfunk2387 3 роки тому

      I did the same drivetrain upgrade to GX and swapped the 35 for a Yari. Works well and you can upgrade the Yari to a Lyric down the line.

  • @jasemaxable
    @jasemaxable 3 роки тому

    How does it compare to 27.5 ver