The Big Improvisation - Whirlwind P.9
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Ammo: Stealth
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When you say that these are fights you shouldn't win - most of these guys (and most players for that matter, me included) don't have that intimate a knowledge of the planes. For instance the flaps on the p39 being broken at low speed still isn't that well known I feel. I think lot of people could really benefit from an in depth vid on flap use i.e. when exactly they should be used in certain situations, step by step, and maybe some key aircraft that really benefit from their use. Preferably props coz I'm broke as shit and not gonna pay for battlepass or premiums. P.S. you're a legend and I love your vids
bruh sometimes you have like a turn time of 7 seconds with energy in the p39 lol
Beautiful plane - maybe if it got merlins there would have been a different story. I assume the Westland Welkin isn't in the game?
Its not in the game but its model is in the files, so it may be coming eventually
@@celica825 maybe it will be a random throwaway battle pass vehicle.
It isnt but the de haviland hornet is and that thing is basically this but with two merlin
Interesting, always found this plane to be one of the uglier heavy fighters. Frankly I think British heavy fighters are overrated and I never understood the obsession with the mosquito. Now the hornet is cool, prob the only one I like. Japanese and German heavies just have more utility overall imo. The rare Hornet vs Ki83 is a classic matchup
@@kingwein89 i guess aisde from looks the reason i like it is that if you look at it it has a lot of late war features such as a bubble cockpit, 4x20mm, good streamlining etc but it first flew in 38. In the case of the Hornet that was Eric Browns favourite so i'll defer to his experience and agree
I always called this thing the balanced xp-50. I found it a fun plane to fly as a challenge because you don't do anything amazingly so it really relies on how well you know you enemies and can abuse their faults. Glad I have the prem variant from way back in the day because that ammo count is so limiting in the tt version
That dogfight against the xp-50 was beautiful, I wish I got more moments like that instead of mindless point and click gameplay
Fly stick, no mindless point and click.
XP-50 p2w fegs deserve those lessons ^^
You don't want point and click, play sim :)
@@Alexandros11 Yeah because everyone wants to be locked in to cockpit camera and have to use MEC and set trim etc. while having no target markers for enemies.
@@PaulieLDP And everyone wants a 360 degree view with point and click instead of the actual challenge of flying a plane? The people I’ve known who tried sim can never go back, saying other game modes just seem so shallow in comparison.
Loving the consistent uploads, i always want to play WT after i watch your videos because you
make it look so fun when in reality it’s a grindfest. keep up the great work!
cute plane, looks like a 262 with prop engines
This was my most used premium plane and seeing some commentary on this plane is interesting
the windmill P.9
The Whirlwind is definitely not a plane for beginners. I remember how much I hated it when I was a beginner. I went back to it a long time later and did really well in it, not too bad at low speed acceleration or energy fighting for a twin engine.
that P tho
never let a enemy with half wing missing get away even if it says "Aircraft Destroyed", i lost a battle in an IL-2 (1943) because i shot the guy's wing off and it showed him as dead so i let him go.
he came back later resurrected and i lost the battle, it was the first time in my life i was dedicated to save a replay and as i watched it he made it back to the af and landed..
ty for flying this plane out, i understand it has lackluster performance but i like twin engine fighter planes like this. not meta but very cool
I wish that up ammo'd version was in the main game.
So, some notes on the plane. When it went into service late 1940, it carried some of the heaviest guns then in service . It was fast - 360mph / aka in its testing areas it matched the Spitfire, and was faster than the Hurricane by a margin. Its agility was ballpark of both, and It did not have the superchargers or engines for altitude, and would lose out there against fighters.
It was heavier than spit/hurricane and had a fair bit more wing loading - but two 885hp engines offset that somewhat.1800+hp over 1030hp is a wide gap. The engines were deemed to be distraction - RR and gov wanted a focus on Merlin development. The plane also took 3x the material/resource than a Spitfire to build - this is largely the reason for numbers built and service life/history.
The engine gained a history for being a problem, but this is actually wrong. It developed a problem in service, but never had it when in prototype form and that problem stemmed mostly from the props used in the production version - these led to problems with the engine. It was one of the first bubble canopies, providing first class vision for the pilots, and the planes got quite notorious for the pilots walking away from the plane if it crashed or came back badly damaged.
It was taken out of service in 1943. In the time it served (There were only 114 ever built, 2 being prototypes). It was used for many things, but its wider use became that of a low level raider flying 'Rhubarb' missions - killing E-Boats, Train engines, and scrapping with whatever it came up against. There are notable cases where it went into dogfights outnumbered and did not fare badly at all. And that includes later era ME109s and FW190s.
I've spent maybe three years annoyed at the snail and the REDICULOUS 4.7 rating applied to what should be (in my humble estimation) a 3.0, 3.3 plane. That I base on being ball park early 41 and having heavy guns.
On a slight side note. Its development started back in 37, and it had some hold ups, redesign work and had to await on engines.
Had the original 39 plan been met, there was an order for 800 (this changed later), and had it been built in additional shadow factories, it would have given the Germans the shock of their lives in the BOB. As it went, the first planes were delivered to a recovering Squadron in Scotland, and that did not hit readiness until december 1940.
13:18 I love the way you said “bombers are mostly contested by your teammates” while a bomber shot one of your teammates down
Sb2c's don't count as bombers, they turn inside of spits, have at least 2 an/m2's, and don't stall.
Fantastic gameplay and commentary! I love hearing your comments on the characteristics of enemy planes, for instance the P63 having poor energy at lo speeds. Thank you always.
I love how when he says throttle, it sounds like troll
Ngl this plane kinda has elements of the meteor in its looks, albiet thinner wings and prop engines, maybe they just took some inspiration from this to make the meteor eventually… thats just my opinion. Its such a funky looking plane but its nice
Could you fly out the P-51H? You were flying super props recently and I'd love to see the best of them lol.
Yeah I will, i got too many US planes in the works tho and i want to spread them out a little first
@@DEFYN the F4F-3 is calling your name! Love your content
@@DEFYN still waiting for that Yak 3 107 video hope it comes out soon
tbh there's not much to the P-51H, go high go fast stay fast and you just out energy everyone
@@lurker1245 Not against jets.
This thing has a crazy SL modifier, its my main SL grinder
6:49 couldnt be a russian plane without the best performance possible
Looks like the Argentinian IA-58 "Pucará"... Enjoying your videos, as always! Thanks!
BTW what happened with the Pucara?? We saw it at the hangar as model some updates ago but still havent got it yet
6:16 Nice Watchmen reference! Well done.
This right here is why people who purchase Tier 6 premiums to skip the grind suck so horribly bad. Sure you might be using a plane with good missiles that'll enable you to get a few kills, but you haven't gone through all the tiers. You skipped the crucial learning curve of props that would have taught you positioning, energy management and maneuvering, amongst other things.
Always extremely satisfying to watch prop combat, even if the plane isn't a favourite of mine...
Edit: since we are talking props, please take a modern 109 or 190/152 for a spin sometime. Always awesome to watch those. Keep up the good work!
skipping to tier 6 is always gonna fuck people over. the first jet game is pretty similar for someone that went through the grind to get there and someone that bought it.
sure there are some things that can be carried over from prop experience, but it's still not much other than positioning and general game knowledge.
energy management and maneuvering is not something that can be applied to jets the same way it can with props because the playstyles are extremely different and there are no props that will prepare you for a jet.
Whirlwind P.9 - improvise, adapt, overcome
I just hate those cowards who run to their base. But sometimes I do it myself. It’s a misery
even though it sucks, the whirlwind mk.1 is my favourite british plane, i just looks so sleek. if I had the p.9 it would be my fav british plane.
This is like what would happen if you were making a bomber and some person realized "Wait where do we put the bombs?"
You’ve been playing all my fave planes this one is crazy climber at the start .
Great piloting Defyn! Watching you fly this plane makes me wonder how you would fly the Ki-83, they are similar in characteristics.
is it just me or is the visual delayed compared to the sound?
Daily posting has been amazing
Hello Defyn! Love your content it has helped me improve drastically and even when it hasn't helped me its just been enjoying to watch someone not suck at the game! Small suggestion for future videos: maybe at the start just put somewhere on screen the optimal climb rate for what your flying as I don't think the ones on the warthunder forums are all that accurate most of the time and I want to do better in this game even the small things like climbing correctly 😀!!
P39 remind me of the "DEVISSTATED"
That was really good to watch.
This little shit kicked my ass in sim battles. Always coming out of nowhere one shotting me with his guns.
You make air rb look so easy. Damn you are good.
Good guy Defyn letting his opponent RTB after making a hole in their right wing
For all its flaws I love this thing for the exact reason of early game potential.
It's also a relatively good SL grinder too.
Hello, do you have some kinda guide on how to fly the 4.3-ish BR P-51D-5 Mustangs? ^-^ I just dont really know what to do with them, i feel like theyre not the best at everything 😁 I did spade all of them but im not satisfied with the way i did it.
Here's my tip with the P-51 D-5 and D-20
1) Play something else
Hope my tips helped
12:24 now i know DEFYN like being on bottom possition :v
You did it!! You actually played it!!
I flew quiet oftn the techtree variant… it‘s actually a cool plane. But low ammo amount
if i ran this game all these airfield campers would get a permanent ip ban
I spaded it and man does that 120 ammo count absolutely kill this thing. You can get 1, maybe 2 kills before you have to land and lose your air spawn advantage.
The TT variant is 240 rounds spread across 4 guns. As long as they do damage and you conserve your ammo not too bad. I can usually get 3-4 before I run out of my 120 rounds on a Spitfire which has the same trigger time as this since it has 2 guns at half the ammo. It's the lack of any real advantage in this thing that kills it for me. Bad flight performance, okay power and engines, and a low rip speed.
Thanks for the 49927th upload this week 😄
I'd like to make a request if possible: the French P-63-5 and VB.10-02. The VB will be rough but I wouldn't mind seeing how if flies in better hands than mine lol I personally like it eventhough it's not really a good plane. The P-63 is my workhourse in Ground RB. I absolutely love it
10:20 is this not modeled correctly or is the P63 historically just a shitbrick at low speeds? Crazy how quickly he got boned by energy loss there.
Hi defyn. nice video like always :D. Do you think you could remake a video on the yak 3u or the premium yak 3 because the last one that you made on them was 2 years ago
So... when will you fly the Yak 3 VK-107? I would really like to see you flying that monster
I didn't even remember this thing existed lmao
how does this thing compares to ki-96?
plus the hisparkos performance is based
defyn i love you bud and since english is my second language i’ll tell you this: it’s ideal not ildeal
Literally he does erase enemies
Nice!
Could you do a video on how you would fly a VB. 10-02. As far as I can tell from the stats and armaments it should be used for boom and zooming but how good is it in that role?
Could you possibly show us your graphic settings next video?
Would not have thought I'd see a video on the Whirlwind. Good video as always.. Would you ever consider making a guide about how to counter premium planes? Maybe multiple videos going over the strength and weaknesses of various good (op) prems. Given the nature of Gaijins monetization I'm sure the premium power creep will only get worse so why not give the freemium players a leg up.
TIL there are still people tryharding with P39N
19:41. Nice
Where do you find information about the planes performance characteristics?
GG
The amount of ammo on the tech tree one is crap
Hey Defyn, not sure if you're interested in playing shitty props but could do a video on the VB.10 with 10 guns? I am interested to see how you play with it. Thank you for the daily uploads so far ;)
Is there any performance difference between the Russian P-39N and the American one?
The Russian P-39N has the wing mounted .30cals removed, making it lighter and more agile.
I’ve never seen this plane
Can we get a video on the hunter for. I am really struggling with it.
Hunter f6
@@Zippyz33333 It's a subsonic 10.3 with no RWR or flares. Most of the matches are uptier where you get boned by missiles and SRAAMs are useless either due to flares or being unable to catch anyone.
defyn can you play the propeller j21?
was it just me or was there some slight audio desync?
I love the Whirlwind, sad I don’t have the Prem version :( really glad you did a video on it! Plsssss revisit the Dora! I’d like to see if you think it is really any different at 5.0! o7
I missed getting it the first time and when I saw it was making a return I did everything to ensure I could get it
@@liamboyle9199 good stuff m8. I did that recently with the P-38K. That thing is a monster, and when they put it back for sale a few weeks back, I snatched it up. I was very quick to buy it, especially since I was broke when the Zwilling was on sale again 😭
@@galvaniclegend917 lmao I didn't do the 109Z sale but did grab the 38K last year I think, I really enjoy for the most part.
@@liamboyle9199 I just love the aesthetic of the Zwilling. And the P-38K is nearly untouchable if you fly it right, but if you make one mistake, you better hope the guy can capitalize lmao. I have an almost 3-1 in it, love the Fork-Tailed Devil. Check out my channel, there’s a short on it! o7 m8
Why did the Brits paint the bottom yellow?
how do you consistantly make 11k a kill??
It's a premium plane and I have premium probably is why
14:40 🕊🕊🕊
Does the P39 and P400 have the same low speed propeller inefficiency problem as the P63?
P39N has some of the best low speed energy in the game
P400 idk, it doesn't have power regardless so it's hard to tell the difference
@@DEFYN Thanks
Can you fly the P-39N just to show us how op it's is?
damned XP-50s. i hate em...and Zeros..Zeros are controlable, but if you get one on you...
and they are so hard to hit, if they pay attention. even with no energy on them...
This thing is about as weird looking as people who think airfield camping takes skill
Hey! :) love your videos. If i could recommend an underplayed plane that ive enjoyed playing is the SM.92 in the italian line. lots of guns, pilot off center, play aggressively, and all that, ive had a lot of success, or at least been able to punch a hole in an enemy team before lots of teammates arrive. Hope youll check it out, have a great one!
and when you had teammates you can still cause damage and chaos, and its really fun with a squadmate in the same thing.
can you fly the p51d5
So the Tech tree Mk I and the premium P.9 is same in performance?
Yes, pretty much.
Does anyone know how to fight an xp-50? I’ve got like a 2.5-3 k/d on that thing even by being a mediocre prop pilot. The plane always has an energy advantage on the enemy team. My attempts to dogfight it have always ended with me either not getting a shot in or losing a dogfight against the insane p/w and turnrate above 500km/h
almost like the xp-50 is a tad too strong
You gotta force an overshoot at speed since he will compress, or be flying one of the planes that can outdogfight it
The J2M2 Raiden is the only thing I’ve been using that seems to kill it without being at a disadvantage.
mb157 when
Anyone else feel like this plane looks strangely German?
F-100d (US) could you fly it xD????
f100s are dog
P-47N please! Hardest p47
Similar strategy as with the non D-28 P-47s. Mixture 80%, climb high and boom and zoom everyone to death, but now you can actually turn.
What's ur pc specs
x3
doesnt turn well and turn fights xp 50 ??? whirlwind is a energy fighter and turns incredibly well in the early turns
Pls do yAK23:)
reee reee video delayed compared to sound
Refresh
:)
How much would someone have to pay you to play the J-22B? Lmao
I never liked this thing, mediocre speed, low roll rate, feels kinda sluggish
I didn't really understand your midmap AAA rant until today, fucking stupid idea, got to 4k alt and then orange engined.
I don't know if you've played really low tier recently, but their new player retention must be horrible with how many people get absolutely slammed by midmap AA at BR 2.0. In every match a solid quarter of the lobby gets taken out by it because they're all doing 300kph.
@@brettmihlbachler im at 4.0 usually with my bf109 f4/trop
Yo bro fly the xp50 again pls