Green River Hunter for Bushcraft?
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Green River Hunter (an American Puukko)
Dexter Russell - Southbridge, Mass.
Green River Hunting-Fishing 4215
Length 9”
Blade 5”
Steel 1095 (55-56 HRC)
Grind Full-Flat
Thickness 1/16”
Handle walnut
Green River Works founded by John Russell on March 1, 1834, on the banks of the Green River near Greenfield Massachusetts.
It is estimated that between 1840 and 1860, 60,000 Green River knives were shipped west.
Could not find the link where I bought mine but I did find this www.baryonyxkn...
I have used my Green River Hunter as a primary knife on several outings. I am not a big wood batoning guy, I prefer hatchets for my wood processing.
Right on. If I carry a small or light knife like the Green River, I carry a big knife or an axe. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Incidentally, as a former chef, I enjoy teaching my kids kitchen knife skills. The Green River Hunter and the Skinner are great, light but sharp knives for little hands to learn how to slice and cut.
This is IMO the most underappreciated knife today. Same design for hundreds of years, still being made the same way. Excellent geometry and shape for a do-everything blade. Great for woodworking & game processing. Love them.
I agree. I have been considering having a blade smith make me an upgraded version with a stainless steel and larger grip. Thanks for commenting
And you can do light batoning with it.
Hello Mark; back in the 1970s I spent several years in Alaska. I carried three knives, a hunter for game processing, a large bowie for wood, and a pocket knife for everything else. Would use the hunting knife for nothing but game and only game from bear, caribou, moose to ptarmigan, grouse, and rabbit. Occasionally would switch out the bowie for a small hatchet, but the hunting knife was only for game. Thanks for an enjoyable video.
Funny how many people look for the one knife that will do everything. I really like having a big knife, small knife together. Thanks for commenting
Out of curiosity, why a bowie for wood, and not a hatchet or tomahawk?
@@jic1 Would sometimes carry the bowie because it was less weight than the hatchet, but still was still sufficient to help me get a fire going on rain soaked days. Now often carry a tomahawk because is also light weight. At the time the bowie and the hatchet was what I had.
Other than batoning, these knives will handle just about any camp chores that you can think of. No. Not really a woodworking knife, but if you hunt and fish, it'll handle large and small game, and fish like salmon and large trout.
I have put together 2 kits, and 2 premade blades. All in sheaths that I put together myself, with copper horse tack rivets, heavy cowhide leather and sewn with artificial sinew in "mountain man" style.
I own several Russell Green River knives in different configurations, including a 19th Century Green River butcher. The quality of the steel hasn't been compromised one bit, since they went into production in the 1840's.
Right on. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Have to make a correction here. The Green River Works, actually started making and marketing their knives in the latter half of the 1830's. Some of their knives actually made their way out West, for the last two, or three, authentic fur trade rendezvous. The last rendezvous being held in 1840.
outstanding video, mark! I actually watched all your Keith titanium gear playlist yesterday. I trust your experience and judgement.
Hi James. Thank you for your kind words. I do hope you are recovering from you injury without any lasting issues.
Enjoyed your presentation
Thanks for commenting
I picked up this knife this fall, its mostly kitchen use at this time but will be taking as an only knife on my canoe outing this spring season. It needs a sheath. I think it will perform many bushcraft chores and it will cut tomatoes, potatoes, apples carrots etc much better than my fat bush craft knife or even a simple Mora.
I agree. Best used for game and food and keep the Mora for wood. Thanks for commenting
BPS leather dangler sheath fits it perfectly.
I’ve had one of these for 15 or so years, I’m a big fan but I cut down an old hickory butcher knife to 5” and I do like it better for camping. I really liked your videos (I’ve seen two) and I just subscribed to your channel.
Great recommendation for the knife. Thanks for commenting and subscribing
These Green River blades are also nice for re-profiling into whatever style blade you might want. I’ve made Nessmuks from the skinner, and a fish prep knife from the hunter.
Right on. I have a few other old carbon steel butcher knives I have done that with. Thanks for commenting
They actually have a wood handled fillet knife for fish prep. It doesn't look like a typical fillet knife. You are quite right about reprofiling them though. My hunter version got misplaced once and the tip had come in contact with a corrosive agent which deeply pitted the tip area. 😱I ended up re-profiling the blade to more of an offset Kephart design to rid the knife of the deep pitting and continue to use it off and on, but am keeping better track and care of it now. 😉
It is Massachusetts! There is no state named Massatusetts. Otherwise I enjoyed your video.
Thank you for correcting my annunciation
Thank you for another excellent explanation!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting
Excellent knives. I picked up two blanks here in the UK and "Rob Evans Woodsman" put different handles on them and made sheaths , one in leather , one in kydex. Rob used a hollow rivet for the back rivet so that I had lanyard holes. I get compliments whenever folk see them. He also ground down the butt on one of them so it could be used as a scraper. Timeless knives, and the price can't be beaten for value. Would recommend them to anyone looking for a cost sensitive starter knife.
Great recommendation. Thanks for commenting
Did I tell you I got a Grohman knife a few months after watching your video? I wanted the #1, but they weren’t available in seconds, so I got the field and stream in stainless. It’s going to fill a similar role to this knife you’re talking about today. Food prep and other small tasks around camp, and will be my small game and fishing knife too, of course.
I also wanted it because it’s smaller and lighter than my other knives to carry on my belt.
The defect, by the way, was so small that it took me a few minutes to find it. I haven’t really used it yet, because it’s an Xmas gift to myself, so I can’t use it till then, but I think it’ll be a useful part of my kit in the future.
Oh yeah, and they say you get whatever holster there happens to be available, but I asked very nicely if they could give me the deeper, slip in one, and not with the snaps, and that’s what I got, so a real quality sheath too, and all for $57!!!
Thanks for the tip on that one. Only thing better than a made in the USA is made in Canada.🇨🇦
Right on Jim. I would love if Grohman would add some new "bushcraft" styles. Love to support local when I can
@@MarkYoungBushcraft they’re having such a hard time staffing that they close the store a couple days a week, and mail order seems to be suffering too. You could apply and whip them into shape! 😀
G'day Mark, great value there alright. Sure not specifically designed for it, though fair to say it will still do plenty of bushcraft and other camp tasks; it is a sharpened bit of steel after all. In any event, a good example to show one doesn't have to go high end to have solid capability. And yep pairing this with a big fella would have you well covered across the board I reckon. A few extra bucks for it to come with a simple sheath of some description wouldn't hurt. Cheers Duke.
Right on. Basic knife does everything you would want of this design. Thanks for commenting Duke
The odd thing is, when the factory store was open and I'd buy these Hunter knives at the shop, on the table next to them was a bin of leather sheaths. Nothing special about them really and they were cheap enough. Never bought one though as I preferred to make my own
Those are great knives! I live a few minutes away from the factory and used to go to their factory store and purchase the Hunters and some different model factory seconds there for just a few bucks each. Sadly, I think they closed the factory store due to Covid 19. Haven't actually checked on that to verify, but someone had recently told me such was the case. They have a butcher style knife with a 4.5" blade and checkered wood handle that I actually prefer to the hunter. I think it too was/is a Green River blade. Oddly, I have not seen them listed online, which is a shame, but have bought a few in the past from the factory store when it was open. They are using 1095 for their blades so they are prone to rust and require constant care, but man they sure take an edge!
Great story. Thanks for sharing
@@MarkYoungBushcraft As an aside I must correct my earlier post. In checking the company's website again, I did see the wood handled 4.5" Green River works butcher knife I mentioned. $22.95 according to their site I believe. The two that I have I fished out of their seconds bin for $3 each. They had some minor cosmetic flaws that didn't concern me at all. Nothing wrong with the heat treat and they have served me well for at least 7 years now. The site claims it has a rosewood handle?? I don't think that's right. I've never seen rosewood with that coloration. The scales are very sharp all the way around, but with a bit of sandpaper work the scales can be tamed quite comfortably.
I make my own knives using 1095, but I harden them in the RC60 category, it makes them harder to sharpen but hold an edge for a long time.
There are knives that only have 1066 steel like BDK that want $200.. This Green River Hunter is a little thin, but it's a good knife.
I have only made one knife from a file. Turned out great. I have a number of friends who are professional knife makers. Thanks for commenting
For the price, they are tough to beat. A lot of bang for the buck with the Hunter and some of their other offerings. 😉
Knives are supposed to be sharp and slicey by design. Back then they didn’t have competition on lifetime guaranteeing and people accepted their responsibility to work with their precious tools prudently because they didn’t value over consumption. Dollar used to be backed by Gold not airplane carriers before wwii. Forging precious Iron from the stones was not easy like today. Individuals carried more value than brands and multinational holdings. Machines weren’t there to waste resources of our planet with speed of light. Oh, talked too much. Sorry Sir.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
I have one and I took it in the field a bit, but I'm not a hunter, so this found a home in my kitchen, skinning onions. Which it excells at, by the way.
A very versatile knife for sure. Thanks for commenting
Great video about a great historic knife, but i think you missed what puukko in Finish actualy means, it just means "sheath knife".
Thanks for commenting
The difference between stock removal and forged blades, a forged blade has more strength and flexibility, therefore, you can actually go with a thinner blade, maintaining similar strength if not stronger than a stock removal blade.
Good to know. Thanks for commenting
Blanks with custom scales would be sweet. Picture ivory G10 with black liners In black leather sheath. 💰
Right on. Made for customizing. Thanks for commenting
Prefer the Herters Improved Bowie
Also a good choice. Thanks for commenting
Knives of this type are ideal for long stays in nature. The usual use of knives in this situation is for food preparation. You don't need a big, long, heavy knife with a thick blade for this. The knife needs to be comfortable and easy to sharpen. In my opinion, the best material for such knives is steel with a carbon content of 0.7-0.9% or low-alloy steel. Despite the possibility of rusting, such materials provide the necessary mechanical properties of the blade. To protect against corrosion, steel can be blued or oxidized. I have been using a knife of similar geometry for cooking and cutting fish for many years. Unfortunately, these knives are not sold in Russia, and in general, relations between our countries are now extremely tense, which is sad. I believe that these knives could find a huge market here, since there is a shortage of high-quality and inexpensive knives for practical use. For example, the minimum price for a knife of a similar type of more or less satisfactory quality here starts from $100. But at the same time, such knives are made of stainless steel and have a thick blade. This is not always necessary and not for everyone. Therefore, many people make such knives on their own. As a source of material, they use, for example, Brazilian-made machetes, which cost 5-10 $ here.
Thanks for commenting
"Hunting Fishing Fish Knife" is what Dexter calls it. lol Do you strap it on a pole, or wade into the water Rambo style? I have one in my kitchen and a 6" and 10" GR butcher. It is a food processing knife. I was just typing about the Snake Eater just before you started talking about it. lol In a world where some hikers carry nothing but a Victorinox Classic, one can certainly make this into an outdoor knife; but those old Mountain Men that carried thin knives and not prybars, also carried an axe. Too many people carry a knife and expect it to work like an axe. In Nova Scotia you can often find Green River knives in commercial fishing stores: Spartan Marine and Hi-Liner Fishing Gear and Tackle. Maybe a review of the Green River Dadely in the future.
Never thought to check out those local stores. I will look for the Dadley. Thanks for commenting
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The Green River Hunter is my personal favorite. I own a half dozen of them, along with the Green River Butcher knives, a Patch Knife, a half dozen Drop Point, and two of that famous Sheath Knife Robert Duvall used in "Lonesome Dove". Green River is the goods! I make sheaths for them, patina them, use them, gift them, sell them. Enjoy!
Great example of Americana that is still a good choice for today. Thanks for commenting
Dave Beck makes some knives with a very similar profile to the Green River. I just got a new Beck which has nearly identical blade shape, but with a larger, much improved handle (for my hands, at least). 5/32" blade thickness (much thicker than Russel's version) with a tapered tang, roasted hickory handles with stainless corby bolts, and Beck's famous O1 with a differential heat treat.
Just checked out Beck's site. Thanks for commenting
The old designs work.
There is so much expensive kit made now that is not really up to the job.
I have stopped buying Spyderco folders because of poor heat treat of the blades.
Once you blunt the initial edge the reshapened rdge just doesn't hold up.
Had not heard that about Spyderco before. Thanks for commenting
Fine Looking Blade & Very Affordable, Great Review, Thanks Mark ! ATB T God Bless
Thanks, you too!
Very comfortable but the tip of this knife is very fragile.
Yes, good point (pun intended). Made for game, not wood. Thanks for commenting
Good video! I have carried and used a number of the Russell Green River line of knives. I usually purchase just the blades from Track of the Wolf and add curly maple or walnut scales to them. That way they look better and I can size the handle to fit my hands. The Green River Dadley blade shape is very similar to the Kephart and predates old Horace by several decades. There's nothing really new under the sun. Keep up the good work!
I like the idea of adding my own handle scales. Funny thing, it would have cost me more to buy the blade blank that the completed knife as I would have to import it from the US. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraftThanks for replying.
The American puukko is quite accurate I think. Just a very versatile knife shaped by history and the necessities of its time. Beautiful simplicity
Yes, that is how I see it as well. Thanks for commenting
Nice knife. Might get one!
A true classic. Thanks for commenting
Thes types of knives were orinally made (and still are made) in Sheffield, England before 1830. They were imported into the US in large numbers, until the manfacturing facilities appeared in the US. The term PUUKKO simply means knife (in Finnish). So to say a "Puukko knife" is like saying a "Knife Knife". A Finnish friend found this amusing when I used that terminology. I like these knives but I'd agree, they have their limitations. However that is what was available way back in the day. That tool had to serve many purposes for our acestors. I do agree......it can't be beaten for food prep, although yhr Opinel comes close.
Good information. Thanks for commenting
A true classic hunting knife. Thanks for sharing Mark.👍
True story Wade. Everybody should have one in their collection. Thanks for commenting
Why would this be a "pukko"
It is not truly a puukko. What, in my opinion makes it "puukko-ish" is the classic barrel designed handle, the lack of a guard, plus, the fact that it was carried as an everyday work knife. Thanks for commenting
I see what you mean.
I finally picked the Green River knife last Summer after reading about them for decades. I love it especially for breaking down roast chicken. Way better than a Henckel "French" cooks knife. Great review.
I have kept mine for field use but could see myself using it in the kitchen as well. Thanks for commenting
I don't think anyone has talked about the Dadley, made in England, being an obvious precurser to the Kephart, which came later.
I will take a look. Thanks for commenting
Isn’t the blade to long to be a puukko. Sorry about the spelling. LT Wright makes a Puukko.
A true Scandinavian puukko, which means small knife, does not have a specific length. I do say this is an "American puukko" because of other similarities and where it fits historically in use. Thanks for commenting
I purchased a Russell Green River Dadley a few years back as a fish and kitchen knife and it has also served me well in the garden. Though not as well known as the IMO, it us still a good multi use heritage piece. Like your knife, I also don't use it for Bush craft as I use a Coleman stove for my cooking. Thanks for the review, Mark.
Right on. They are best at game and meal prep for sure. Thanks for commenting
😅what kind of hat is that, it looks great and has a shorter brim than my Filson packer.
Tilly Outback. I have a full video on my Tilley hats. Thanks for commenting
A US friend gifted me one about 10 years ago, really useful knife, and it takes a great edge. Nice and light too, for quite a large knife. Carries well in the sheath my pal made for it. I'd have thought the blades would have been forged back in the 1960's (rather than stock removal). Thanks for another great video Mark 👍
I expect the original were hammer forged. I am thinking a big trip hammer so they could mass produce them. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Could be Mark, America mechanised early, compared to England, but they were still hand forging pen knife blades, in Sheffield, in the 1960's, and those fellers turned out hundreds a day 👍
@@JackBlack-gh5yf That's backwards, the Industrial Revolution reached England a good 30 or 40 years before the United States, and it didn't really take off in America until around 1820s-30s (not coincidentally, the period in which the Green River factory was built).
@@jic1 My apologies for the typo, should have been 1960's! 😯
The best "bushcraft" blade for processing wood is a hatchet.
Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Did I see in one of your videos that you're in Nova Scotia?
@@johncaper68 Yes sir, I am. Living in Halifax. How about yourself?
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Cape Breton, near the Seal Island Bridge
@Mark Young love my Grohman knife too
Good review Mark , thanks for sharing , God bless !
Very welcome. Thanks for commenting
Love junkyard fox been a fan for years this knife is pretty awesome.
Right on. I love watching James as well. Thanks for commenting
Your hat is cool ?? who makes ???
This is my Tilley Outback. I have a video on my Tilley hats if interested. Thanks for commenting
Outstanding review.
Glad you enjoyed it Thanks for commenting
Someone is on your channel hacking people's identity. Hopefully you are already aware of it. I had to refresh a few times to see the same comment over and over under mine and other subcriber's names. I was taken aback seeing my name left a comment before I had a chance to see the video.
Always report such people to UA-cam. The ones I see try to get you to contact them. Do not contact them but report them directly to UA-cam. Make this a problem for UA-cam so they will actually try to do something about it.
I did not see that. I have been checking comments in the UA-cam application. I will take a look and see what I can find. Thank you for letting me know
@@MarkYoungBushcraft It may have been caught by UA-cam as it was happening because it was cleaned up quickly. It's happened to me before, and I had a hard time getting it addressed. Someone was using my name to leave political comments on news channels. If something doesn't sound right click on the person's name, then about, then check to see how long the person has had an account. Most of them are using a brand new account just to troll.
@@patriciaribaric3409 Glad to hear it was cleared up. Hope it does not happen to you again. I get plenty of trolls and scams in the comments and try to delete and block them as soon as I see them
Nice Knife
Thanks for commenting my friend