Sony BRAVIA 9 Mini LED TV: The Best HDR TV EVER?
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- Опубліковано 16 кві 2024
- The Sony BRAVIA 9 Mini LED TV was launched at Sony Pictures Studios back in March with the Sony BRAVIA 8 OLED and BRAVIA 7 Mini LED also breaking cover. As well as the TVs there are also BRAVIA Theatre products including new soundbars and a Home Theatre system. Sony is not removing OLED TVs from their line-up, the A95L continues for another year.
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Sony has finally revealed the BRAVIA 9 TV model number for the 2024 flagship, based on the backlight demonstrations that were given in Tokyo late last year to a small group of journalists and again in closed-door demonstrations at CES in January. I was so impressed at the prototype demo I received at CES that we gave Sony a ‘Best of CES’ award on the spot. To finally see the product in person and with a model number was interesting and a good opportunity to see some content playing without half of the screen missing as was the case in the earlier demos.
While Sony will never divulge figures for backlight zones, the number of Mini-LEDs used or the peak brightness nit values, the BRAVIA 9 is designed to be the brightest set it has ever produced based on technology and know-how from the company's professional grading monitors.
The latest grading model, the 31-inch BVM-HX3110 is capable of achieving 4,000 nits peak brightness and in demonstrations, it is incredibly impressive with HDR content looking natural and life-like, as intended. The sun in the sky behind clouds has stunning peak highlight detail, mixed with superb mid-tones and blacks, that give the image depth and realism.
The technology used by Sony to achieve this peak brightness and accuracy with HDR content at 4,000 nits is trickling down to the consumer BRAVIA 9 which will be capable of achieving at least 3,000 nits peak with some degree of accuracy for HDR content.
Sony has decided to use the BRAVIA branding to rename its TV and Home AV products to make it easier for consumers to choose and combine products within the range and understand the levels that the products perform in. By simplifying the naming convention the company hopes that consumers can easily identify the products that will suit them most within the line-up and be able to understand the product hierarchy easily. This change will take some time to work through for the entire range as some models will be staying around for a while with the older model naming structure.
Those screens remaining in the line-up for most of 2024 are the A95L QD-OLED, A90K WRGB OLED, X90L, X85L, X80L, X75WL and W800 LCD TVs.
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We were invited out to see the new TV line-up at Sony Pictures in LA and all the information is in the video - so which one are you looking forward to the most? Tell us in the comments.
Exactly right regarding the 65" not being available, I'd love to know the logic behind the business decision, don't they know most of us have smaller dwellings! Especially inner city apartment living, I literally cannot get a 75" on a wall without slicing a door in half!!!!!
85" Bravia 9 vs 83" G4 will be my big decision this year.
Obviously it depends on whether you watch movies or play games more.
G4 waste of time as exactly dame G3 better off waiting for G5
@@RobertK1993 Not true. The 83" G4 now has MLA. It didn't last year.
@@user-cy5jc6sj6c which of the two TV’s is better for gaming and why? I tend to believe OLED would be better with perfect black. I’ve been gaming on LG OLED’s for 7 years now.
@@BBRBGR exactly!
It looks very promising indeed. X95L was already a nice set and this is going to improve on that significantly
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I have the A95L. But, I patiently wait for the Bravia 9.
When is the Hisense 110 coming out
So I guess give it another 2-3 years for them to cook miniLED since Sony is now investing big into miniLED and we should be seeing mid range "bravia 7" that will punch out of the park the first bravia 9 TV.
No 65“ Bravia 9 for Europe, thats crazy and a good strategy to loose customers this year to other brands…
What about the Samsung QN900D ? Is it better ? It’s more pricy but my question is what is the difference?
Is it confirmed what panel sony's new woled A8 will be using? I'm guessing it will be a non-mla panel, the panel that the lg c4 uses, not g4.
Yeah it will be normal oled
If i buy the Bravia 9 tv and get the BRAVIA Theatre Bar 9, I'd like to hook up my Playstation 5 and Amazon Firestick 4K Max and the sound bar to the hdmi 2.1 ports. However, there are only two 2.1 hdmi ports on the Bravia 9 tv itself. Is there a way to get the full utilization of the 2.1 hdmi ports for all three of the abovementioned devices?
I haven't looked at the HT9 bar specs yet, but I would hope that it would have at least a couple HDMI ins itself, and would also assume/hope that those would allow 2.1 passthrough??
But, I also would have assumed 3 years ago that Sony would have upgraded to 2.1 across all 4 HDMI in their TVs by now, so...
You don't need an HDMI 2.1 for your Firestick 4K Max. You can plus that directly into one of the HDMI 2.0 ports on the TV. Your Soundbar and PS5 would go directly into the HDMI 2.1 ports.
You can connect your ps5 into the Bar 9 HDMI 2.1 via passthrough. Problem solved.
Will bravia 9 and 8 have an ATSC 3.0 tuner?
Yes all Sony Bravia TVs have it all Samsung TVs only LG OLED have none big write off even worse Sony 2 HDMI 2.1 ports 😂
Personally I'm soooo glad they didn't release a 65 inch Bravia 9 this side of the pond. I bought the 65 inch X95L a few months ago and would be suffering from a huge case of buyers remorse had they done so. The x95l is a beast of a machine but it was the one model reviewers recommended not to buy even though prices were dropping. They had a sneak peek at the Bravia 9 backlight performance and it was obvious that the tv was going to be a huge upgrade on the x95l. Phew
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Glad it was helpful!
no 55 and 65 models of the bravia 9 is insane has no one explained to them the size of uk living rooms? I just grabbed a lg g3 55 inch, my next tv will probably be the same size. The most id go up is to 65 inch.
In the same boat. Can’t go over 65” in my London flat and in the market for an upgrade. Kind of relieved that my options are not expanded due to the Bravia 9 announcement. Easier choice! Currently leaning towards G4 but A95L a close second. Waiting for prices to drop a bit….
I won’t go over 65” either so I honestly don’t know how they came up with this decision. Probably some product/marketing manager somewhere who recommended this.
True 55 should be minimum size for LCD Mini LED flagship 50 inch for lower level models
Bravia 9 dimming zones - 85inch 2808 zones, 75inch 2180 zones, 65inch 1560 zones
How about the 85” X95L?
@@hastensavoir7782I believe its 480
Nice to see Sony put a bit of effort into this tech after their history with amazing sets like the ZD9. You get a lot of hype about dimming tech being able to match oled with various manufacturers but it always falls short. The backlight demos here look super impressive might actually be for real this time.
Is a80L tv IMAX certified. , Disney+ DTS sound does not work for me. Goes to atmos auto
Nice video phil. No 65 here in the uk though boooo
Silly on sony's part for not releasing smaller screen sizes in europe, where smaller sizes are in demand (still to know if they would be released in asia).
That's what they did with the US last year with the X95L.. it stinks, they should release all sizes if they make them
100%.
@@michael-4k4000Exactly! Even if you have order the 65" directly from Sony, it still should be an option.
Because what consumer buy Bravia 8 OLED
Is the bravia 9 an lcd tv ?
Yes
Weeeelp! 65” LG G4 for me in the UK it is, since the Sony Bravia 9 isn’t available in 65” here.
Tbh I thought the tv was going to reach 4000 nits but apparently just 2500-3000 I think so I would stick to the the G4 in my opinion
@@falsehope5529yeah but that’s full screen 2500-3000 nits while OLEDs can only do around 300 nits full screen brightness.
What sizes are available in the UK? Is it just the 85"? That's what happened in the US last year with the X95L
No, it's not. That's on a 10% window, not 100%. Peak brightness is about specular highlights.
@@falsehope5529Just? Maybe you’re getting blind? Just how bright do you ever want!
will the sony bravia 9 be better than the lg c4 & g4 for gaming & sony saying it the brightest 4k tv mini led tv
Nope! Gaming on OLEDs is unmatched. Mini LEDs have to typically cut their dimming zones in half to achieve lower input lag. OLEDs will always be faster since they can turn pixels on and off when needed. Plus Sony only has two HDMI 2.1 ports.
Oled is definitely best for gaming because of the pixel response time. The Bravia 9 is a mini led but the Bravia 8 will be Oled. Although the b9 would still be an excellent gaming tv, I don’t think it will out perform an Oled overall in gaming. Currently, the G4 appears to be the brightest oled so if I wasn’t on a budget, I’d choose the g4 myself. Plus, the Bravia’s will only have 2 hdmi 2.1 ports vs 4 on the other TV’s. For some people, that could be an issue considering a lot of people will use a sound bar for one hdmi2.1 because it’s the one that’s the “earc” input as well. This would leave you with only one hdmi 2.1 input for a single console or pc. Some people would like to be able to plug in ps5 AND pc on same tv. Or ps5 and Series X on same tv. It limits your options as far as I understand. I’m no expert but just going by what I’ve read mostly so far.
@@thatsamazin- You're absolutely right. There's nothing like playing on an OLED. 4x HDMI 2.1 inputs are the way to go. I'd hate to drop down to a TV that had two HDMI 2.1 inputs unless it was specifically for gaming. Hopefully Sony and MediaTek release a TV with 4x HDMI 2.1 inputs in the future.
Yep indeed it be better C4 but not G4 in terms picture quality but it beat G4 in every other area bar gaming if need 4 HDMI 2.1 ports buy HDMI 2.1 switch or Sony AV receiver.
I want a top quality picture but do not want it to overpower my room. Why no smaller sizes?
Because margins are smaller on smaller TV. Premium large TVs are released first and smaller cheaper ones are released only years later.
Race-izm 😳
So far I have watched probably two or three videos on the new Sony 2024 TV lineup and no one even this video by a V forms mention the TV sizes for the Bravia nine what’s going on why not?
He talks about that at 6:55
For me, it just matters how good the black levels are and what color volume looks like next to their A95L. But hyping up a TV that technically isn't out yet seems a bit disingenuous. Let's wait for it to hit the market!
Brightness is overrated. I rather have deep black levels. How is the black lvl on a mini led like this?
I was impressed with what I was shown in the demos. I 'm hoping to have a review sample soon to test it fully.
If I was cynical, I'd say that Sony wishing to make both OLED and Mini-LED sets is an attempt to keep prices high as production economies of scale won't kick in to the extent as they would if Sony only made TVs with one technology.
My only guess for the UK sizes is that they think the market prefers OLED.. There's a bit of history of UK preferring the better contrast, I remember many moons ago Panasonic supplying lcd tvs with VA panels for UK models instead of IPS. Plasma also did a bit better in the UK, if I'm not mistaken.
Most ppl in the UK definitely do not have good tvs. They care less about quality than Americans even, and my job takes me into all kinds of homes from all walks of life
@@enzopied3015 this is true, I mean within the discerning crowd itself, at least back then they apparently they thought the market preferred black levels over brightness.
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I suspect Sony marketing are basically playing silly-buggers. The A95L will not be attractive in the minds of the consumer as it is 2nd generation panel, now, only 6 months after it was launched, up against 3rd generation panels from LG and Samsung. I suspect the A95L is not selling as well as they’d hoped and thus not want to cannibalise any remaining potential sales by announcing a new QD-OLED tv or a 65” A9 in the UK.
Iirc sony does not produce their own oled panels and it costs them a lot, so instead of arguing about good price they decided to show the sellers a big middle finger and jumped into making mini led as their top priority
Of course it's not selling well. The average price for TV sales is $1400. The 55" A95L is $1200 more then the average. Heck, u can get a 98" TCL for $2k, $800 less than a 55" a95L. I love oled, but most people just want a big bright picture.
@@KisKano5QD-OLED screen size maxes out at 77". That's a big tv, but you can buy TWO TCL 98" tvs and have $1,000 left over for 2 sound bars. Now how do u explain that to a potential buyer? The difference between oled and lcd is much much smaller than it was 10 years ago, OLED is still the best, but you can see why people go for the larger LCDs. Also, if u buy a $5,000 tv you definitely want want to upgrade it for a long long time. Where u can buy a cheaper TV and upgrade sooner.
Samsung S95D uses same second generation panels S95C Samsung haven't upgraded panels this year hence Sony skips A95M until later this year maybe or spring 2025 I bet be QD OLEDSamsung S95D uses same second generation panels S95C Samsung haven't upgraded panels this year hence Sony smiles A95M until later this year maybe or spring 2025 I bet be QD OLED announcement in late 2024 announcement in late 2024
@@michael-4k400083 inch QD OLED are possible they probably make them in 2025
Thank you for vidéo Phil. No 65 size in Europe is the dumbest decision ever. So logical that it hurts. Sony please wake up…
Sony has delivered over the years some of the dumbest decisions I've seen from top AV manufacturers. Last year in the US they didn't even release 65" & 75" versions of the X95L but this year they're releasing bravia 9 in all its sizes in the US but omitting the 65" version in Europe, it's like brainless fools are making the decisions over there. I'll think under the mass amount of pressure they'll decide to include the 65" version in Europe at some point.
Yeah if their decisions on marketing are that dumb it doesnt install confidence in the tvs.
Yeah no 55 either they trying make people switch to OLED
@@sj460162What only Samsung pony would say that or LG pony but yeah should announce 55 and 65 inch Bravia 9
I don't know where the notion that UK or Europe has smaller apartments or living rooms. A lot of apartments in USA are small, many even studio apartments in big cities.
I am from Sweden and I am a Canadian as well. I have perspective of both housing. Houses aren't bigger here unless mansions or upper middle class. Apartments are definitely not bigger with 'wall space'.
That said, of course they should offer 65" in both NA and UK/EU.
The Stands on these sets are horrendous.
Oh come on, no 55", this cannot serve as my replacement monitor.
Bravia 8 will give better picture anyway and A95L buy A95L
The A95L seems to have been discontinued in some markets including Australia.
It hasn't
@@RobertK1993 Sony Australia lists it as discontinued.
No 65in? Oh well, like others here, its the LG G4 for me then.
Thanks Sony🙄
A business decision. Pretty generic answer but makes no sense. I'm in the USA I use a 65" tv as my living room just doesn't allow for anything bigger. In Europe living rooms are smaller in general so how did they come up with this business decision? Instead of 75 / 85 they would probably sell more 65/75 models.
It's almost perfect. I wish the colors were more saturated
It looks like the mini led won't be 4000 nits as was being rumored. And there won't be a 55" size.
Where do you see all these rumors because everyone is reporting 4,000nits from Bravia 9. Sony has specifically said this is the brightest mini LED to date.
Lol keep dreaming..backlight master drive my a$$. Still going to bloom n 4000 nits 😂
@@LazyCrazyGuyBut no 55 fact.
@@sj460162 Sony hasn't made a 55" for Flagship LCD TV for 3 years now. I don't know why anyone is surprised by this. 65" is the most sold size in America. America is still the biggest electronics consumer for high end products. In other words we set the trends and because this TV is so expensive and difficult to manufacture that it's not worth their trouble making a 55" especially when OLED is very cheap at that size. Too much competition to really cut a slice of that pie plus again no real enthusiast will buy in a 55" size.
It will be around 2500 nits in an accurate picture preset.
It’s always hilarious when someone claims their opinions aren’t biased, especially after enjoying all-expenses-paid trips around the world. Get the hell outta here.
There's really no opinions to be had yet anyway. The product will come out and everyone will be able to see it for themselves and judge accordingly
OLED and Plasma, two peas in a pod?
Sony not abandoning OLED/QD OLED don't know who making that misinformation uo spreading all over the internet few months ago 😂
Va panel, insta skip.
LG G3 is enough to beat all miniled TV.BRAVIA 9 maybe better than A80L levels oled TV, but can not challenge S95C G3 A95L levels OLED TV.
Just wait and see this may finally be the year oled meets its match
Idk I think I’m grabbing it
@@NexGenTek Hey S95C !
LG and Samsung have for years struggled to match a Sony Bravia OLED TVs and now Mini LED TVs will suffer with better Sony Bravia Mini LED TVs
Can’t match true blacks…talk about brightness…a problem we haven’t had in years…Want OLED-level quality picture? Get an OLED…