🇬🇧 ERYING Phantom Wing B760-I D4 mini-ITX - motherboard review
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Thanks bro! Nice and snappy review ! Straight to the point! Can’t wait to see the x99 pr9 review as well!
Thank you so much for your review and advice.
Informative review !
Thanks for the warning,have a great Christmas🌲🌲
oh man thanx for the review 😅 im waiting for the mr9a review you about and other x99 mobo you ve mention in the story
Thx!🎉
I thought at the end of the video you were going to split it in two with an ax xD
It's a shame it didn't work, I hope you can fix it and it works as it should with a Bios update.
Thanks a lot for your videos!!
I have too much respect and too much sentiments towards computer hardware to split a motherboard with an ax.. maybe a future BIOS update will fix the issues because I didn't spot any immediate hardware failure.
Boa tarde, um Feliz Natal e um ótimo ano novo e que Deus abençoe sempre sua caminhada. Um abraço
another great review on the cat! i don't know about this motherboard on the side though, it's distracting me from the totally-main-point-of-the-video cat
Cat's are awesome. Maybe some day I will do full review of Zion. 😸😻
Thanks
I had the locking of the system after CPU stress test happen on MSI 9th gen motherboard as well. A different 9th gen CPU solved the issue and the CPU I removed that was locking up the system also worked fine in another machine. Crazy.
Well.. silicone lottery is to blame here, probably. Might be that your MSI board was too aggressive with the voltages and that particular CPU didn't like it.
Interesting 👍
Ha! Excellent review. A motherboard on a pile of firewood. I love it. You should have put it on the logsplitter.
I don't have a log splitter but I like the idea. 😂
I wish I had that much firewood with the energy prices here in England these past few years! :P Merry Christmas Konstantin! A name as regal sounding as my own name "Alexander", if not more so!
Merry Christmas to you as well! Unfortunately just having woods is not enough.. you also need a good wood burner and we'll isolated house, otherwise all the woods vanish in a blink of an eye.
@@Miyconst My house certainly isn't well insulated, and I haven't a wood burning stove or chimney, so electricity and gas is costing me £300 a month! I'm looking to the last year of X99 builds next year to sell on, RX 5700 XT with X99, and RX 6600 with 13700 Erying soldered chips on boards.
God bless sir.
Many households in Sweden would love to have just £300 per month for heating.. Some of my colleagues had £1300 several months and on average it rounds to £500 during winter.
@@Miyconst Oh I would love for that to be the case for my self too, if not that my parents have passed away. If I had not inherited my house.
I would rather my mother still be alive, than to have inherited her house.
best review 2023
Thank you for the honest review.
Try a Maxsun board next time. The b760m challenger is available at very competitive price here in Italy (80€ shipped including taxes). It seems a nice pick for the money, also maxsun offers a better support in term of bios and drivers
Yes, Maxsun is a much better option, I will try to review their B760 options in the future.
@@MiyconstI've used Maxsun and Soyo AM4 mobos for many of my builds, and they work great. I did encounter 1 issue that happened on a Soyo A520m mobo, where the PWM stops working after waking from sleep mode. Not the end of the world but it works again if you shut the pc down and boot it back up again. Everything else worked fine though, I ran it with 3700x and 5600x CPUs and no other issues. But Maxsun B450m challenger is around the same price, and gives you a bit more control in the BIOS, and had no issues with PWM.
amazing work & video as usually, can you do review on machinist X99 PR9 motherboard plz
I can, it's already on my shelf.
YES, thank you 😇🥰🤩@@Miyconst
Yeah nice to know which mainboard not to buy and the seller to avoid ;D
Hello, do you have any review/benchmark or Xeon E5-2697 v4?
I would still use it. The issues you describe can mostly be solved or are not life threatening, BUT than the price has to be lower!
I would avoid it if at all possible, especially since I buy Maxsun mobos for PC builds that I sell on, I can't sell PCs with these garbage mobos in them that barely even power on and function.
Thank you. I really liked this motherboard, but i gave up after your video!
Procurei review dessa placa e só encontrei esse maluco metendo o pau, eu comprei ela aqui no Brasil e a placa é ótima! Rodando liso com 12600k e memórias da Juhor, quem estiver na dúvida pode comprar sem medo.
😂
I trust this man's reviews more than I trust most. He is honest and fair in his evaluations and knows his stuff. If he says he can't recommend this board (or any board, for that matter) then listen to him and look for an alternative. If you go against his advice, you only have yourself to blame.
Thanks for the support!
@@Miyconst Thank you for your content, thorough reviews, helpful insights, and wealth of knowledge. Means a lot to a guy like me, who lives a frugal existence and wants to cut costs without sacrificing too much in terms of features and scalability. Your work means a lot!
Another great review, tough to do them when the system crashes no matter what you do or try. I love that you're trying out all this random hardware, helping people make the best decisions with their money and not wasting it. Any chance you're going to do a review on the new Soyo B450M Classic AM4 board? It goes for dirt cheap on sale all the time, might be useful for throwing an older CPU that you've upgraded from and have laying around.
Thanks for the support. That SOYO motherboard seems ok apart of the pathetic VRM. I might do a review but not yet sure when.
Hi, Myconst not related to video, but do you recommend doing an CPU unlock, using your tool, on a E5 2666v3, using a QD4, I heard the QD4 doesn't have good VRM. But just want to make sure it's safe. Sorry that I comment in here, I think you are more active answer comments on this videos. Kind regards,
There is no such thing as safe when it comes to AliExpress. E5-2666 V3 even without unlock keeps almost max frequency in games, so I wouldn't bother.
@@Miyconst thank you for answering friend! Do you recommend going with 2267 v4 to obtain similar performance to 2666 v3 unlocked, instead?
Depends on the price. If it's similar then yes, V4 makes sense.
Erying 12700h mini itx has similar issue about booting loop. I have to change a power supply to make it work. A lot of chinese user said this board has psu compatibility problem😅 it also has cooler matching problem....
Well.. with the mobile CPUs they had excuses that memory support is problematic but with the desktop board no excuses are possible and the motherboard is just trash.
@Miyconst I was talking about their 12700h itx board. That one RAM support seems OK to my siliconpower and corsair RAM. My problem was with PSU and cooler matching....Yes, agree with you the board in your review is trash....
Hardware in nature, reminds me of Random Gaming in HD
Oh, right, he also films outside, I even forgot about the guy.
What do you think about Xeon 2690v3 with 2060super/3060. Can I play in MWlll, warzone with good fps?
I have 2690v3 but I still want rtx 2060super or 3060. And I can't decide because of the price. How much fps I can have with 2060s or 3060? ❤
I think 2060S and 3060 both are okay. Exact FPS depends on the map and situation but overall it's a pretty well balanced combo if your E5-2690 V3 is turbo unlocked.
@@Miyconst thx so much❤️
Oh well, only good as a cat scratch tower or for the e-waste bin! Good luck with the other toys youll get!
Thanks for the video. Shame on ERYING for producing such crap and the seller is to avoid on any product he/she sells!
Amazing review, and trash mbu as said. I had the "luck" to buy this mbu for a "cheap" for an itx board, and from the first minute it powered on, i got really mad. It posted straight away, but my gskill 3600mhz ram didn't work at 3600, and neither at 3200, no matter how many retries or spent time messing with timings. The vrm cooler size was a problem for me too, but my 3rd cooler, noctua l9x65 with a little bit of force was mounted just fine. Now, for the worst, the usb's. For me, the 3.2gen1 (5gbps blue) worked fine with my stack of pssd's, but the 3.2gen2 (10gbps red) made me furious. Out of 6 pssd's, some on rtl9210b, some on jms583, and a samsung t7, all capable of 10gbps, NONE! worked, and any test resulted in speeds like 10-15mbps. Fiddling with the bios was pointless, as the seller support, that after many days of "investigation" was like "our test board works fine, so you need to send yours for diagnostics". Such a trash product...
Have you tried updating the bios? It seems the site download section have something that might be the 006 version (uploaded on Chinese site in November and on English version just today)
Thanks a lot for confirming my findings, I was not sure if I should be this hard on the motherboard but now it's clear, the motherboard is just trash.
I gotta check that when I am back home in 2024.
@@sarmatiko yes, updated the bios on 3rd day of messing with the board, nothing changed, ram frequency still unstable, usb's still non working properly.
I was looking for a new board to change to from a aorus b450m and you see this brand a lot. It seems like they are lower quality clones of some asrock models.
Could be. If I have time and desire, I will try to flash ASRock BIOS and see if that works.
PLS TRY the finals on the next video, its quite cpu heavy game , but low gpu demand , so it would do good on tests, its also free to play and is growing a massive following , it will also boost your views if you include TESTED IN THE FINALS to the video title
Thanks for the idea, I am actually thinking to replace CS2 with The Finals since CS2 is just so overly toxic and filled up with disgusting ruzzians.
in chinese brand i trust SOYO and maxsun i have no issue with their products and they are remarkably very greatin AMD and intel
SOYO and Maxsun are the same thing underneath, just a different brand. In general I trust these two as well and so far didn't have any major issues with their boards.
A shame as I would like to get an x99 in mini itx form for a desktop case
We are still waiting on the pr9 machinist review thanks for everything . We appreciate the effort thank u so much and free ukraine 🇺🇦 free Palestine 🇵🇸
try the klisser b760 MYBE IT IS BETTER
Most of the issues you described also happen with my MSI B760M Mortar Max (China-exclusive model), especially the nonfunctioning sleep mode and cold-boot loop. I had everything set to factory default, and it still tells me "overclocking failed" almost every time, requiring me to enter and exit the BIOS once to boot into Windows. Waking up from sleep is hit-and-miss, but mostly miss (only works about 30% of the time).
My guess is there was a bad batch of B760 chipset used by the Chinese manufacturers, so I would just avoid Chinese B760/Z790 boards altogether.
Jaha, having these issues with MSI is something new. Did you try to RMA your board? A defective B760 chipset could certainly cause such problems.
@@Miyconst I would RMA it, but I bought it on Taobao and the cost to ship back to China isn't worth it.
It works fine once booted into Windows. It's just annoying that I have to enter and exit the BIOS almost every time. It's doubly annoying that none of those issues exist on the global non-Max model, so I guess it's either a bad batch of chipset, or a problem with the clockgen chip they used (which can supposedly overclock by BCLK, but only works for 12th gen).
I don't think I have a bad board, because a lot of people have the same complaints on Chinese forums.
Yeah, sounds very much like a design flaw. Very well could be related to the extra clock generator since it's not supported, not verified, not certified, and hated by Intel.
@@Miyconst I did some more messing around with it, and it's definitely a design flaw.
It works perfectly fine with the H0 chips (i3s and some i5s), but the C0 chips give it trouble.
I tested two i5-12400Fs, one C0 and one H0, with the exact same BIOS settings (stock and 5 GHz with 125 x 40, +175 mV). The H0 one boots the first time every time, and sleeps/wakes fine, but the C0 one exhibits all the issues I found earlier.
I also tried a 12490F and a 12900TE (both C0 only) at stock and 5 GHz, same problems. Whereas the 12100T and 12600T (both H0 only) work perfectly at stock and 5 GHz.
I have a 13400T (C0 only) on the way. Will see how it handles 13th-gen CPUs that ignore the external clockgen.
Have you checked the voltages? It's not hard nor expensive to do. Get yourself a multimeter for 10euros and a bit of wire (or 2 paper clips will do) and backprobe all of the 12v, 5v and just in case 3.3v lines. It will take you less time to do that than to make trash for content, plus you can get back what you paid for it.
I have a multimeter and my PSUs are fully functional with correct voltages but I can't be brothered with the motherboard. It's easy to win a dispute with Ali using the evidence I already have but I kept the motherboard on a shelf for too long so the dispute window ended.
Thanks man, I was gonna to buy this trash.
La solucion que siempre da Erying es que haga un cambio de PSU, no le brindan más soluciones.
Yup, the support is absolutely useless.
I was honestly expecting Erying to have improved their product quality after their success with their embedded cpu combos. I guess they're still dodgy.
Well.. people forgiven them lots of issues with the embedded boards because it's a niche product and maybe something is hard or impossible to implement but now it's clear that ERYING is just trash, at least right now.
Had the same interaction with Erying today in regards to a 12800h board that arrived dead on arrival. I tested every which way and submitted video. The board did nothing and the power supplies would never get a power request from board. No indicator lights. Nothing warm, no power going on from various quality psu’s. Multiple memory sticks used in a variety of confines you name it. They even ask I take it to a tech to flash the soldered on bios. To which I replied how could a bios get corrupted if they shipped it working? Read and flashed it any way with two different programmers. Showed pictures show same bios was present and they insisted I need to take it a technician (not myself) Asked for pcb documentation none given. Asked if they would like to take it back to learn from it. No response. More concerned about getting an admission that yes their 24 pin was too tight no matter the psu and that likely stress the pcb and solder connections causing the issue. Wish them and their customers the best of luck in a prayer.
Yup, ERYING is something to stay away from.
They refuse to take the board back even to check their work or quality control. Stating it’s outside the 2 week warranty window and that’s the end of discussion. Continue to point blame at me for using their product as it’s meant to be used and not just something to look at.
that motherboard goes into the trashcan.
Yup, kinda.
Disappointing. Thank you for always spending the money to test these things. We all appreciate your research.
Stay away from Erying , their products are half baked , if something doesn't work then Ali seller blames you for their crappy products not working.
AliExpress sellers are ridiculous sometimes.
I had one tell me recently that an RX 6400 GPU is not compatible with a Ryzen 3600 CPU. 🙄
Unfortunate about Erying, though. I've kinda been eyeballing them for a while.
I've used 2 different 11th gen Erying boards now. The i9 and i7 versions. Littered with problems is what they are. Support sucks. Honestly I can't ever see me going with this brand again.
Again and again I get confirmation that it's not just my experience, the whole range of ERYING products is full of issues. Thanks for the info.
@@Miyconst yes. Getting drivers is one of the worst for these boards. Almost no GPU functions correctly with it.
Thanks for the warning. I had this one in my cart. Will not buy this one.
Such a shame, I thought this would do better.
Well.. Jginyue is still Jginyue, far from reputable brands.
@@Miyconst is Erying related to Jginyue?
Just surprised since Erying has made decent products in the past.